Starlight Glimmer finally lived up her ideology, even she didnt realize it.

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

Please, take note, this is not a thread to fuel your hate for Starlight Glimmer, nor this thread is used to bash this character in general , afterall, she's my #1 character, a character who are relatable to me to some degree. I just want to share my thoughts about this character after i rewatched Triple Threats, the part Ember cant distinguish between Starlight and Twilight intrigued me.

As you know, some people called Starlight is a clone of Twilight, a lesser version, a replacement, she lacks something made her stand-out above the rest of the mane 6, someone says she's bland, lacks distinct traits, her role can be filled by Twilight Sparkle or even Spike in almost her episodes/appearances. I can just dismiss those claim as "nah, you are Starlight haters, screw you", instead, i try to understand why these claims are made and S7 gave me some proofs and Tripe Threats is the breaking points. Here are my observations of Starlight Glimmer, right now:  Reformed Starlight is more "equalized" than her villain self, which is ironic, it contrast the meaning of the song in the end of S5 'You dont have to be the same to have friends'.

- She had the same leader kind of character that Twilight can fullfill. Her goal of life followed the same path with Twilight.

- She is mini-Twilight (genre savvy by Trixie)

- She is similar to Twilight Sparkle (pointed out by Ember)

- She even had similar mane style to Rarity.

- She is blunts and honesty, look like what Applejack should do, right?

Back to Cutie Map, she created the society where everypony is the same but its started to collapsed because she is a hypocrite, she is not equalized herself, she still have magics, distinct personality, even her house's above "=" sign, she made everypony equal but not herself, she is above everypony else so it means she never live up to her ideology in the first place. Starlight right now, try to become the role model that she's inspired from her teacher (like teacher, like student, i guess). She used to have distinct goal and dream but it is crushed and deconstructed by Twilight, and her worldview merged with Twilight's. The ideal of her equality is friends can only be friends if they are the same, well guess what, she started to live up to her ideology, Starlight herself, become similar to somepony else, even the staffs themself made fun of that, Starlight and Twilight looked similars to each other, they are self-aware, i cant even deny it anymore. Whenever i saw Twilight and Starlight in the same screen, i feel like they are going to merge with each other and become one...

Poor Starlight, she still doesnt escape the shadow of her ideology that she want to gave up. She closer and closer fullfill her friendship ideology that she pursued for a long time.

So what do ya think? Feel free to deny it because i know there are some holes in my claims  

Edited September 1, 2017 by Lambdadelta

[Goat-kun 2,530]

Starfoals: We needed Starlight cause Twilight is a princess now can't be herself anymore.

 

Me & haters: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

 

Me: We need Tempest Shadow cause Starlight is good now and can't be herself anymore. Also, Ember pulls off a more entertaining Starlight than the original while not actually hurting/subjugating/debuffing anypony with her edgy dragon shenanigans.

 

Starfoals: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

 

And the circle goes on and on. I've been arguing against it and been marked as an irrational hater, but now I wish for the circle to continue. It is time to pay bitter tribute to ideas you yourselves helped elevate on the altar of FIM. I've prepared all my keks. Let's have a waifu fire sale! Let's deconstruct everything in the name of senseless progression!

 

P.S: Well, not that staying a villain would help ... Pony villains. Such variety.

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

Just now, Goat-kun said:

And the circle goes on and on. I've been arguing against it and been marked as an irrational hater, but now I wish for the circle to continue. 

Nah, i just want it to end soon. I am tired of that shit.... Do whatever you want, its Internet, i cant stop it.

4 minutes ago, Goat-kun said:

It is time to pay bitter tribute to ideas you yourselves helped elevate on the altar of FIM.

What do you mean? I dont pay anything because i dont demand the staff do what i want, they did that on their own. I just watch whatever on-screen and try to comprehend. 

7 minutes ago, Goat-kun said:

Starfoals: We needed Starlight cause Twilight is a princess now can't be herself anymore.

 

 

 

Me & haters: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

 

 

 

Me: We need Tempest Shadow cause Starlight is good now and can't be herself anymore. Also, Ember pulls off a more entertaining Starlight than the original while not actually hurting/subjugating/debuffing anypony with her edgy dragon shenanigans.

 

 

 

Starfoals: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Those 2 side of those extremes are annoying me. Actually, i dont hate any particular character and constantly type negative comments about them whenever i can. I dont support "Starlight replace Twilight" in any day, i just like Starlight character and want to see her episodes, that's all.

 

[Goat-kun 2,530]

6 hours ago, Lambdadelta said:

Nah, i just want it to end soon. I am tired of that shit.... Do whatever you want, its Internet, i cant stop it.

What do you mean? I dont pay anything because i dont demand the staff do what i want, they did that on their own. I just watch whatever on-screen and try to comprehend. 

Those 2 side of those extremes are annoying me. Actually, i dont hate any particular character and constantly type negative comments about them whenever i can. I dont support "Starlight replace Twilight" in any day, i just like Starlight character and want to see her episodes, that's all.

 

Just to be perfectly clear: I don't hate you for liking Starlight. I just have a massive hate [broadsword] for the character.

 

Starfoals wanted this powerful unicorn #X and have argued that her oh-so-unique personality alone can make up for the fact that this particular mage fantasy has already been fulfilled by a dozen other characters, Twilight included. No matter what kind of personality they have, a fantasy itself can only accommodate so many prominent characters until they start eating into each other's spotlight. It's like having seven Gandalfs with different personalities in one story. Three of them already get Worfed on a regular basis. Not to mention that she's now a friendship student who's following in Twilight's footsteps. Since H-Bro is half-arsedly stepping up their GoH game this is only gonna get worse. In time, she'll become more and more like Riri Williams to Twilight's Tony Stark until she finally gets Celestia'd out of the picture either by wisdom of future management or ire of frustrated viewers, simulating the very same crap that's been happening at Marvel Comics. Or she'll just get Celestia'd by another pony who does her job better.

 

... But don't you worry. Everything the new pony would need for you not to feel like she's Starlight substitution is more prominence within the episodes, am I right. Have her interact with Mane 6 and everything. Let her do all the cool stuff to really show us how truly awesome she is After three seasons of such bullcrap, Starlight fans and shepherds no longer possess the option to wholeheartedly object to any such change from within the fandom. Silence is the cost of your ideas.

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

1 hour ago, Goat-kun said:

Just to be perfectly clear: I don't hate you for liking Starlight. I just have a massive hate [broadsword] for the character.

Ok, i see. I can like whatever i want, you can hate whatever you want, what matter the most is how you behave, obssessive fans and unbearable neighsayers are annoying at the same time, i prefer some middle ground.

1 hour ago, Goat-kun said:

Or she'll just get Celestia'd by another pony who does her job better.

When i read Celestial Advices's synopsis, i thought Starlight will go away and i was ready for her department...  Damn, i just want my liked characters get screentimes, developments or stuffs... i am not asking for this fucking drama.

1 hour ago, Goat-kun said:

... But don't you worry. Everything the new pony would need for you not to feel like she's Starlight substitution is more prominence within the episodes, am I right. Have her interact with Mane 6 and everything. Let her do all the cool stuff to really show us how truly awesome she is After three seasons of such bullcrap, Starlight fans and shepherds no longer possess the option to wholeheartedly object to any such change from within the fandom. Silence is the cost of your ideas.

You sure love to type those provoking comments to piss people off, like its your crusade or something, i am out of words to respond these kind of comments, constant ramblings, mockery, neighsayings are not my specialties and my English vocabulary isnt that rich, not the reason i come to this forum...

Just enjoy whatever you want to do. Peace. I am just looking forward for a good Saturday episode and try to get those shits out of my head.

P/s: Thanks for replying, afterall, you are the only one respond to this thread. 

[Princess Book Horse 352]

It makes no sense at all when people say that Starlight Glimmer is a bland or flat character who lacks distinct traits. Whether you hate Starlight or love her, that is definitely far from the truth. I can live with people saying that she's a flawed character, but a bland character? That's an extremely silly thing to say.

Watch any of her episodes and you can clearly see that she has her own personality traits and interests that are different from the main six.

Edited September 1, 2017 by Princess Book Horse

[LeafFerret 3,382]

I think that she's not getting enough screen time even when she's the only one who's doing anything meaningful in the show, I don't know why they continue to portray Twilight as the main character when she just stands for 30 seconds not doing anything probably using her status as a princess for a reason. She has become more and more incompetent and the fact that she couldn't stop an angry mob and that Starlight was the one who came up with a solution just shows how far she has fallen. She needs to do the right thing and step down as the show's main character, if not then I believe that she will be a lost cause and the show would never reach it's full potential with Starlight not getting a lot of appearances. Hasbro needs to get it's head on straight and stop living in the 90s.

[KH7672 1,604]

57 minutes ago, RDFan89 said:

She has become more and more incompetent and the fact that she couldn't stop an angry mob and that Starlight was the one who came up with a solution just shows how far she has fallen.

Except no solution was actually reached regarding the mob. As for Starlight and not Twilight finding a solution to the Mane 6's grievances, considering the mob had no issues with Starlight she didn't have their pressure stressing her. She could think easier. Also, Twilight did think of a solution to be brutally honest about her friends and their flaws and to show it doesn't bother them so why should it bother you. She only gave up when the mob started arguing with each other and stopped paying attention to what they had to say (nothing you can really do at that point).

[LeafFerret 3,382]

58 minutes ago, KH7672 said:

Except no solution was actually reached regarding the mob. As for Starlight and not Twilight finding a solution to the Mane 6's grievances, considering the mob had no issues with Starlight she didn't have their pressure stressing her. She could think easier. Also, Twilight did think of a solution to be brutally honest about her friends and their flaws and to show it doesn't bother them so why should it bother you. She only gave up when the mob started arguing with each other and stopped paying attention to what they had to say (nothing you can really do at that point).

I don't think she ever once thought about her flaws because she feels like she doesn't have any now that she's a princess, Starlight was the only one to stand up to her since no one in the Remane 5 couldn't do it. 

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

7 hours ago, Princess Book Horse said:

It makes no sense at all when people say that Starlight Glimmer is a bland or flat character who lacks distinct traits. Whether you hate Starlight or love her, that is definitely far from the truth. I can live with people saying that she's a flawed character, but a bland character? That's an extremely silly thing to say.

Watch any of her episodes and you can clearly see that she has her own personality traits and interests that are different from the main six.

Could be because her personalities are not entertaining enough for audiences, even Applejack, the straight man kind of characters still have much more hilarious moment than Starlight, i think you cant deny that. Could be because her personalities are not rich enough due to her limit screentime in S6,  the writers just love to exploit her dark past than her reformed personality, or she didnt have much background to show us why she become who she is, OR Mlp is cartoon and you need to have some exaggerating personalities to stand-out.

That's fan speculation, but i have in-universe proof that Starlight herself didnt live up to her full potentials, from her best friend, TRIXIE:

"Listen, I'd take that over the boring pony you were becoming any day. The Starlight I love is passionate, lively, and yeah, sometimes angry. Those are my favorite parts of you. That and the fact that you forgive me every time." - Trixie

Do i need to say more? Even Trixie realized that, she found the hidden good parts of Starlight that everypony could miss. I hope Starlight can take those words to heart and come out of her shell. It not like I am totally against the "Boring Protagonist go along with the amazing secondary character"... but still... Remember Discord tamed himself so much so he can please Fluttershy and he was nearly ceased from existence? Yeah, that why this thread was made.

 

4 hours ago, RDFan89 said:

I don't think she ever once thought about her flaws because she feels like she doesn't have any now that she's a princess, Starlight was the only one to stand up to her since no one in the Remane 5 couldn't do it. 

The whole episode, no one complained about Twilight's flaws beside her ascension, that weird...

Edited September 2, 2017 by Lambdadelta

[Princess Book Horse 352]

23 hours ago, Lambdadelta said:

Could be because her personalities are not entertaining enough for audiences, even Applejack, the straight man kind of characters still have much more hilarious moment than Starlight, i think you cant deny that. Could be because her personalities are not rich enough due to her limit screentime in S6,  the writers just love to exploit her dark past than her reformed personality, or she didnt have much background to show us why she become who she is, OR Mlp is cartoon and you need to have some exaggerating personalities to stand-out.

That's fan speculation, but i have in-universe proof that Starlight herself didnt live up to her full potentials, from her best friend, TRIXIE:

"Listen, I'd take that over the boring pony you were becoming any day. The Starlight I love is passionate, lively, and yeah, sometimes angry. Those are my favorite parts of you. That and the fact that you forgive me every time." - Trixie

Do i need to say more? Even Trixie realized that, she found the hidden good parts of Starlight that everypony could miss. I hope Starlight can take those words to heart and come out of her shell. It not like I am totally against the "Boring Protagonist go along with the amazing secondary character"... but still... Remember Discord tamed himself so much so he can please Fluttershy and he was nearly ceased from existence? Yeah, that why this thread was made.

 

The whole episode, no one complained about Twilight's flaws beside her ascension, that weird...

I think when Trixie said that she was talking about that episode specifically because Starlight bottled up her anger and was acting like nothing was wrong. Also, I feel like a lot of what you said mainly applies to Season 6, where as in Season 7, they fixed Starlight and made her more interesting. I still wish they would stop putting her in a class of her own and start having her work WITH the Mane 6 more.

[ErisPegasus 56]

On 9/2/2017 at 2:25 AM, Goat-kun said:

Just to be perfectly clear: I don't hate you for liking Starlight. I just have a massive hate [broadsword] for the character.

 

 

 

Starfoals wanted this powerful unicorn #X and have argued that her oh-so-unique personality alone can make up for the fact that this particular mage fantasy has already been fulfilled by a dozen other characters, Twilight included. No matter what kind of personality they have, a fantasy itself can only accommodate so many prominent characters until they start eating into each other's spotlight. It's like having seven Gandalfs with different personalities in one story. Three of them already get Worfed on a regular basis. Not to mention that she's now a friendship student who's following in Twilight's footsteps. Since H-Bro is half-arsedly stepping up their GoH game this is only gonna get worse. In time, she'll become more and more like Riri Williams to Twilight's Tony Stark until she finally gets Celestia'd out of the picture either by wisdom of future management or ire of frustrated viewers, simulating the very same crap that's been happening at Marvel Comics. Or she'll just get Celestia'd by another pony who does her job better.

 

 

 

... But don't you worry. Everything the new pony would need for you not to feel like she's Starlight substitution is more prominence within the episodes, am I right. Have her interact with Mane 6 and everything. Let her do all the cool stuff to really show us how truly awesome she is After three seasons of such bullcrap, Starlight fans and shepherds no longer possess the option to wholeheartedly object to any such change from within the fandom. Silence is the cost of your ideas.

It sucks because teloi are inherent to kid's shows. It has to build towards something. Having amoral characters or unresolved ends is antithetical to that goal.

Edited September 3, 2017 by ErisPegasus

[Goat-kun 2,530]

2 hours ago, ErisPegasus said:

It sucks because teloi are inherent to kid's shows. It has to build towards something. Having amoral characters or unresolved ends is antithetical to that goal.

Tell me more about the lack of irredeemable villains in kid shows. Not that this has anything to do with what I've written. It doesn't matter what kind of character you make, but when they clash with progress of those whose absence could jeopardize your gains they become a problem.

 

We had three seasons of Starlight. What changed for FIM? It's not getting more popular any time soon. So why don't we try some other approach that involves Mane 6 whom most casuals recognize? Are you gonna say that's bad because of some esoteric notion of story progression which somehow dictates "muh passing of torch"? H-Bro has nothing to lose by ignoring Starlight.

[ErisPegasus 56]

7 hours ago, Goat-kun said:

We had three seasons of Starlight. What changed for FIM? It's not getting more popular any time soon. So why don't we try some other approach that involves Mane 6 whom most casuals recognize? 

 Brohoof t

 

I'm super critical of Starlight too, but the Mane 6 are stagnant. If the writers haven't explored every opportunity with them, it sure feels like they have, because they're starting to retread the same lessons again.

 

 

7 hours ago, Goat-kun said:

Are you gonna say that's bad because of some esoteric notion of story progression which somehow dictates "muh passing of torch"? H-Bro has nothing to lose by ignoring Starlight.

 

I mean, it should be obvious with the show recently that its about fitting round pegs in square holes. Starlight is the pinnacle of that. In many episodes, the end and the means are discordant. A character states that they learned something despite the means not being very convincing.

I don't think Starlight is a 'good' character, but she switches up the show dynamic after 5 seasons. If she wasn't there, I'd hate the Mane 6 even more, because the clockwork "Rarity says something superficial + Applejack rolls her eyes and quips back" would be even more stale.

More broadly, it seems that the writers have selected 'making a more coherent and peaceful Equestria' as the show's ultimate goal, and a large chunk of the episodes are a step in this, whether the events are incidental or intentional. This is why you have all the reformations, as well as the geography's constant expansion.

When you select this goal and work backwards to achieve it, many episodes feel contrived, because they are. Character interactions can never feel truly 'real' because they're guided by a moral goal, and this is because it's a kid's show. 

This was always present with Twilight being Celestia's student, but the castle map made it more blatant, because it became a literal goal to seek out. In a decade or two, when people look back at this show, they may view the castle map as the shark-jumping moment. Not Twilight's ascension, EQG, or Starlight (who debuted in the same episode). The mechanism that gave her her presence to begin with.

 

Edited September 4, 2017 by ErisPegasus

[Goat-kun 2,530]

7 hours ago, ErisPegasus said:

 Brohoof t

 

I'm super critical of Starlight too, but the Mane 6 are stagnant. If the writers haven't explored every opportunity with them, it sure feels like they have, because they're starting to retread the same lessons again.

 

 

 

I mean, it should be obvious with the show recently that its about fitting round pegs in square holes. Starlight is the pinnacle of that. In many episodes, the end and the means are discordant. A character states that they learned something despite the means not being very convincing.

I don't think Starlight is a 'good' character, but she switches up the show dynamic after 5 seasons. If she wasn't there, I'd hate the Mane 6 even more, because the clockwork "Rarity says something superficial + Applejack rolls her eyes and quips back" would be even more stale.

More broadly, it seems that the writers have selected 'making a more coherent and peaceful Equestria' as the show's ultimate goal, and a large chunk of the episodes are a step in this, whether the events are incidental or intentional. This is why you have all the reformations, as well as the geography's constant expansion.

When you select this goal and work backwards to achieve it, many episodes feel contrived, because they are. Character interactions can never feel truly 'real' because they're guided by a moral goal, and this is because it's a kid's show. 

This was always present with Twilight being Celestia's student, but the castle map made it more blatant, because it became a literal goal to seek out. In a decade or two, when people look back at this show, they may view the castle map as the shark-jumping moment. Not Twilight's ascension, EQG, or Starlight (who debuted in the same episode). The mechanism that gave her her presence to begin with.

 

Then I guess we are somewhat in accord. I also tend to view Starlight as a symptom of this buffoonery. Our opinions diverge on the matter of story. You fatalistically assume things couldn't go in any other direction due to the good ol' #KidShow excuse. Me, and many others, we're not asking for A Song of Ice and Fire. The things you want can be done without Starlight. In fact, introduction of characters because of such reasons has traditionally been counterproductive. Starlight did not change the dynamic of Mane 6 team. She just opened a leeway for writers not to worry about their stale interactions until the Movie rolls out, by which time they'll be forced to review their approach anyway due to marketing emphasis on Mane 6. To say their goals cannot be broadened or changed to suit the purpose of their owners would be erroneous. Cartoons do this all the time. Sometimes it only takes an arc, sometimes it takes a retcon, and sometimes it takes a reboot. Since this is but a kid show with a malleable story, none of us should worry about any of those approaches. After all, the primary purpose of these entertainment products is not the spread of morals. Those are there only as an ancient safety mechanism.

 

I agree with you about the Map, but let's expand on this even further. When people will look back at FIM they shall see one of the progenitors of modern cartoons that paved the way for others to achieve what it could not. And as many times before, you all shall change your definition of "kid show" to conform to the brand new standards. Will MLP manage to rise from the ashes of FIM or continue onwards with its stale and complacent mindset? Who knows.

[sweetolebob18 728]

Getting off topic a little, I'd tell Ember that Twilight is the one with the wings.  Otherwise, they are kind of interchangeable.

[J.J 924]

This is legit, Chrysalis is a complete shady soul sucking creep, but Starlight was still like, dude, I can be decent, you need to know about real friendship... and that is a Twilight aspect, due to the surmounting responsibilities Twilight has as a pony she is actually becoming less relatable to the ponies of Equestria... the reason Trixie and Starlight get along together, let alone that is Starlight is able to empathize with Trixie from a place Twilight never could and vice versa, the other issue of them associating with the Changelings, I think is actually supposed to be a very subtle nod of change... and the reason those two could go to the kingdom and relate is due to the changes occuring, the reason Starlight was solely invited back to the Sunset festival at first... sometimes heart is main thing that needs change, bc some have talents and an ability to help in ways they used to hurt... All in all Starlights relatability to its certain audiences is the new pony take on Sunset Shimmer... people dont understand that not everyone that wants to do good starts that way in life.. 

Edited September 16, 2017 by Aquaflame

[Jade Fire 7,059]

Starlight is my favorite character in the show. Youre right that she is kinda a mini twilight. she is her student after all, its normal for the student to emulate the teacher, tho i dont think theyre the same pony by any means. shes almost as powerful as twilight, if not as powerful. I know some people hate that, But i like that shes a unicorn on the lvl of alicorns without being an alicorn. i also love the fact the she cant fully control her power either, and that it acts off her emotion. Which has already lead to problems in the show that make her even more fun to watch. but also works to make her her own character and balances her out. my only issue with her is that the show is very unclear as to her role in the show, and no1 can tell if she is a mane character or not. And i know thats where they want her right now with how season 7 started, but i hope they deside soon, i myself am hoping she takes a mane role for sure, i already count her as the 7th, but either way it would be nice to know one way or the other

Edited September 23, 2017 by Jade Fire

[Jade Fire 7,059]

I fixed my last comment. i was half asleep when i wrote that xD 

[Jeric 46,866]

The benefit of Starlight is that she didn't start off to represent a specific emotion or be an avatar or archetype of an perspective of a relationship attributes with the long term intent on walking a line of subverting some tropes while reinforcing others. The show excels at doing that with the Mane Six, but this can be limiting. 

Starlight isn't bound by those same rules that were part of this show's original tenets. This has allowed her to be developed and presented in a slightly more organic fashion. She has conflicting traits that would be off putting in a character with a tighter definition, yet the conflicting traits don't seem unlikely to occur outside of the normal human experience. Similarly, her relapses of judgement feels less abrasive to her fans because, again, she is not defined by a simple list of personality traits and concepts. 

She honestly feels like the most realistic character, especially in the current season, and this along with the dichotomous comparisons and built in need to experience a fantasy world absent of nuanced social interactions, may be some of the reasons for resistance to her character. 

Basically, she isn't anything like the Mane Six and that bugs some. For me she is a breath of fresh air and is the recurring highlight of this season, which has been absolutely stellar in my view. 

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

7 hours ago, Jeric said:

She honestly feels like the most realistic character, especially in the current season, and this along with the dichotomous comparisons and built in need to experience a fantasy world absent of nuanced social interactions, may be some of the reasons for resistance to her character. 

I feel Starlight is not the character that should belong to this show, she should belong to some more mature shows like Steven Universe or sth. 

7 hours ago, Jeric said:

The benefit of Starlight is that she didn't start off to represent a specific emotion or be an avatar or archetype of an perspective of a relationship attributes with the long term intent on walking a line of subverting some tropes while reinforcing others. The show excels at doing that with the Mane Six, but this can be limiting. 

Unlike mane 6, she is not a virtue for children, a role model, her moral compass is usually messed up, her episodes are usually about what she did horribly wrong. 

16 hours ago, Jade Fire said:

my only issue with her is that the show is very unclear as to her role in the show, and no1 can tell if she is a mane character or not.

Yes, they should decide whether she is a new Sunset Shimmer or new CMC-liked or new princess (!!??). So far, her major role and supporting roles are good, she could be anything.

 

[Jeric 46,866]

2 hours ago, Lambdadelta said:

Unlike mane 6, she is not a virtue for children, a role model, her moral compass is usually messed up, her episodes are usually about what she did horribly wrong.

I don't know about that. That's pretty standard of for most of the main characters and it happens in almost every episode. FiM is basically Curious George in that way. That isn't unique to Starlight. The role model element comes from the character making some form of a judgement error, then have it be fixed, and finally moral. To learn a thing the best way ... you need to make a mistake related to the thing. That's why she is a decent vehicle for morality and lessons for kids, just like the others. 

 

[Jade Fire 7,059]

5 hours ago, Lambdadelta said:

Yes, they should decide whether she is a new Sunset Shimmer or new CMC-liked or new princess (!!??). So far, her major role and supporting roles are good, she could be anything.

This will include spoilers just to warn you so if youre not up to date with current episodes, and season 8 storyboard, do not read.

 

 

I feel that they are slowly working her into a mane role, she was the only one outside the mane group to chosen by the map in one of the biggest episodes to date. Not only that they're starting to do more and more episodes including her as part of the mane group, like fame and fortune, and not the mane thing about you, and in the storyboard for season 8 we see pinkie even stand up for her as part of the mane group. So i feel shes headed for a mane role myself, but its just speculation at this point.

Edited September 24, 2017 by Jade Fire

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

4 hours ago, Jade Fire said:

I feel that they are slowly working her into a mane role, she was the only one outside the mane group to chosen by the map in one of the biggest episodes to date. Not only that they're starting to do more and more episodes including her as part of the mane group, like fame and fortune, and not the mane thing about you, and in the storyboard for season 8 we see pinkie even stand up for her as part of the mane group. So i feel shes headed for a mane role myself, but its just speculation at this point.

Yeah, it look like S7 trying to fit Starlight to the mane 6, which is kinda better than whatever S6 trying to do, i appreciated that. However, there is one thing confuse me, they gave her new group of friends outside the mane 6 and even Starlight supporting role is strong, i feel like she still just like... Spike!? Will they want her be a part of the mane 6 or have a group of friends of her own? 

 

[Jade Fire 7,059]

5 hours ago, Lambdadelta said:

Yeah, it look like S7 trying to fit Starlight to the mane 6, which is kinda better than whatever S6 trying to do, i appreciated that. However, there is one thing confuse me, they gave her new group of friends outside the mane 6 and even Starlight supporting role is strong, i feel like she still just like... Spike!? Will they want her be a part of the mane 6 or have a group of friends of her own?

Well the director and cast always wanted to have her as a main character from the start, but they need hasbro to approve it who is covering their bases (we know this from Twitter). So she was forced into a supporting role to see how she worked out, but now with starlight being widely regarded as a fan favorite (aside from hardcore starlight haters,) with some of their higher rated episodes featuring her, as well as trixie / starlight duo being so popular, i feel she'll have a main role soon. at the very least she wont be going anywhere for a long while. Also all the mane group has friends outside the group they have episodes with, so her having other friends doesnt hurt her joining the group if she does.

Edited September 24, 2017 by Jade Fire