Roseanne Reboot cancelled due to her Tweeting

[SaburoDaimando 1,196]

So yesterday, Roseanne Barr cracked an inappropriate tweet yesterday on Twitter by mentioning Vallerie Jarrett as a child of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Planet of the Apes.  She tries to walk it back, but it's too little, too late.  Roseanne's reboot was cancelled hours later by ABC.

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ABC canceled its hit sitcom "Roseanne" on Tuesday after the show's biggest star, Roseanne Barr, went on a racist Twitter rant.

"Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show," ABC said.

In one of the tweets, Barr wrote, "Muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby=vj." Barr was responding to a comment about Valerie Jarrett, a top former aide to President Obama.

Barr had earlier apologized and said she was "now leaving Twitter."

The cancellation comes just months after the show premiered to huge ratings.

 

Source: https://www.cnn.com/entertainment/live-news/roseanne-abc-canceled

 

I'm gonna say this: Words have consequences.  One moment you say something you're not suppose to say, and the next minute other shun you for your poor choice of words.  In the case of Roseanne, she should have been more careful with what she said on Twitter.  It's like what happened with Gilbert Gottfried when he lost his job as the voice of the Aflac Duck after choosing to mock the Japanese Earthquake in 2011.  

P.S. Mods, if you think this is more appropriate for the Debate Forum, feel free to move it there.

P.P.S. And I thought her singing of the National Anthem was her most embarrassing moment ever.

Edited May 30, 2018 by SaburoDaimando

[Castle Bleck 19,376]

Even as a Conservative, Obama-opposer, and Trump-supporter myself... the cringe level of that Tweet is definitely OVER 9000!!!

[Jeric 46,854]

I'm a tad annoyed because from what I saw of the show, it presented a healthy approach to families with diverging political views learning to coexists and come together while also poking fun at each side. Apparently Barr's politics didn't translate to a one sided sitcom. I think that may have been lost in the noise. 

That said, it's a business and businesses have a right to nope out of PR nightmares. 

[Photon Jet 5,491]

This is why racism is nothing but filth in our world and we're standing up against it by joining together no matter what country we live in.  Absolutely DISGRACEFUL for her to do such an act on social media.

[Black Sabbath 2,486]

Good riddance, perhaps now people will think twice before going on racists rants. 

[SharpWit 2,682]

4 minutes ago, Yamet said:

Good riddance, perhaps now people will think twice before going on racists rants. 

It'd be nice if they knew how to think at all.

[Singe 2,111]

I do expect ABC to no longer just allow anyone to step out of line like that. They did allow some previous stars like Joy Behar make some offensive statements and still keep a job.

Edited May 30, 2018 by Singe

[Castle Bleck 19,376]

3 minutes ago, Singe said:

They did allow some previous stars like Joy Behar make some offensive statements and still keep a job.

 

There's a petition for them to rectify that.

 

And I agree; cheap double standards are cheap.

[Dark Qiviut 22,440]

25 minutes ago, Singe said:

I do expect ABC to no longer just allow anyone to step out of line like that. They did allow some previous stars like Joy Behar make some offensive statements and still keep a job.

As bad as Behar's statements about Pence was, Roseanne's tweet was at least a thousand times worse. Calling a black person an "ape" has terrible consequences across the board.

[Frostgage 7,975]

This is why famous people should not post on social media, if only because it's bad for their careers xD

[Megas 27,731]

Pretty ballsy(though unsurprising) Considering the Reboot was insanely successful. They’re even taking off syndicated episodes completely. Talk about destroying your legacy 

Edited May 30, 2018 by Whomps

[Libra 11,691]

2 hours ago, A.V. said:

Even as a Conservative, Obama-opposer, and Trump-supporter myself... the cringe level of that Tweet is definitely OVER 9000!!!

I never really liked "Roseanne" to be honest. Itt was more of "hey were tired of shows dishing out liberal agendas, lets make a show that dishes out a conservative agenda instead!" Now while i do think ABC overreacted, im not going to force them to keep Roseanne on the air. 

[BloodDrops 762]

I think its worse mexicans are taking our jobs, we should make mexico build a wall to keep mexicans out.

If only trump and kim were as easily dealt with as this ^^ Cancel trump and kim please. 

38 minutes ago, Dark Qiviut said:

Calling a black person an "ape" has terrible consequences across the board.

I know, you end up getting stabbed if you do that. you can call white people anything, even honkeys and they don't get stabby. 

[Guest]

Yet tweeting about white people seldom bears consequences... 

[Misty Shadow 7,928]

I completely agree that the tweet was stupid, though I also agree that ABC having her show canceled just for that was also stupid, especially when there are companies like Marvel and IDW who allow their employees to say all sorts of horrible things about white people on Twitter with no consequence. Double standards aside, I still don't understand why people who are supposed to represent companies are still posting "edgy jokes" like that on social media (like how employees from EA were rejoicing over the death of TotalBiscuit) or using a place like Twitter as a platform for voicing their political beliefs. Even if you don't get in trouble with your bosses, it's just not worth having your public image soiled.

[Black Sabbath 2,486]

1 minute ago, CloudMistDragon said:

I completely agree that the tweet was stupid, though I also agree that ABC having her show canceled just for that was also stupid, especially when there are companies like Marvel and IDW who allow their employees to say all sorts of horrible things about white people on Twitter with no consequence.

Could you give me an example or two of this happening, please? 

Edit: Also, I don't think the age old argument "company X doesn't punish it's employees for racist behavioral so neither should company Y" makes much sense. Like, I could see where you were coming from if ABC let people post racist stuff about white people on twitter without consequence but I don't see how separate companies doing so should have any effect on this decision. 

Edited May 30, 2018 by Yamet

[Goat-kun 2,527]

George Bush constantly compared to a chimp. Nobody cares.

 

 

A black person is compared to an ape. REAL SHIT!

 

Doesn't that mean they actually believe all black people look like apes? I mean, why else would one think that only comparing black people to primates is racist? Context matters, but if they believe I cannot compare any black person to a primate without being racist then the two previous sentences definitely hold true.

 

P.S: Wait, if I tweet that Valerie Jarrett looks like George Bush will I be banned for racism?

[Misty Shadow 7,928]

On ‎5‎/‎30‎/‎2018 at 3:09 PM, Yamet said:

Could you give me an example or two of this happening, please? 

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWLmf0zALibUALCZoaDg2jw

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC337i8LcUSM4UMbLf820I8Q/videos

Not just racist remarks against white people, but these two have tons of documentation of employees from Marvel and IDW promoting far-left ideologies on Twitter, attacking people who disagree with them, and receiving no comeuppance. One exception was Chris Ryall, who actually was fired.

Edited October 19, 2018 by CloudMistDragon

[Gestum 2,493]

I enjoyed the episodes of Rosanne I have seen, so I can't say that I am glad that it was cancled. The canceletion was justified though.

21 minutes ago, Goat-kun said:

Doesn't that mean they actually believe all black people look like apes? I mean, why else would one think that only comparing black people to primates is racist?

If I were to guess it would be because "ape" and "monkey" are commonly used as slurs against black people. 

[Goat-kun 2,527]

11 minutes ago, Gestum said:

I enjoyed the episodes of Rosanne I have seen, so I can't say that I am glad that it was cancled. The canceletion was justified though.

If I were to guess it would be because "ape" and "monkey" are commonly used as slurs against black people. 

I know. Think of it this way: if you somehow forced white supremacists to stop offending black people, which words would they have to ban based on their own opinion? Pretty sure monkey and ape would be among them. If these people weren't able to use racist slurs would they stop being white supremacists? Nope. They'd still be convinced that black people look like apes and it is for this reason that they'd have to ban this sort of language. Once you ban this word you imply that you believe in its message. If you don't then you can easily counter them without moderation.

[Black Sabbath 2,486]

4 minutes ago, Goat-kun said:

Once you ban this word you imply that you believe in its message.

I disagree, all you do is show that you don't tolerate the message regardless if you believe in it or not. 

[Goat-kun 2,527]

11 minutes ago, Yamet said:

I disagree, all you do is show that you don't tolerate the message regardless if you believe in it or not. 

Then you have quoted the wrong sentence. You should not tolerate anything by default. Banning the word means you do not tolerate the word itself in any association with black people, context be dammed. In fact, you then give the word one single context in regards to black people. You may not be tolerating the message but you are clearly propagating it.

 

She should have an opportunity to explain herself and the company should have the balls to hear her out despite the lynch mob calling for blood. Of course, that is quite impossible since the company is not properly equipped to handle a media backlash. Such damage control was probably the right way to go. That said, we cannot change anything if we do not start taking a closer look at context. Progress is paid in turmoil, and this turmoil does not look nearly as bad as the future the bans are bringing. At this rate black people will always be associated with primates.

[Jeric 46,854]

I'm just curious, how many people here have seen the show. I'm not condoning her tweets at all, but in the show itself is a kid who dresses extremely feminine and when he gets bullied for it she softens her position, and a Muslim neighbor who Roseanne goes from fearing to defending. That scene itself should illustrate that this isn't a  Conservative Show. What I'm saying is that her work product doesn't mirror her Tweets. 

Also, she wasn't the only star on that show. You have crew, writers, and actors who are on varying sides of the political spectrum. This was an overreaction. You know who you get when you bring on Roseanne Barr. Shows like this are good for political discourse. You have very very few sitcoms that focus on a blue collar family these days. 

Again, what she said was stupid, but like many things it's more complicated than that. This cancellation also doesn't harm her as much as you think. She is in the public eye and has resumed her stand-up routine which is bringing in crowds. If the public reaction is fueled by schadenfreude, it's a failed waste of energy. 

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,161]

Just hid a post; please let's keep this on topic. This not about Trump.

Cheers.

[SaburoDaimando 1,196]

4 hours ago, Jeric said:

I'm just curious, how many people here have seen the show. I'm not condoning her tweets at all, but in the show itself is a kid who dresses extremely feminine and when he gets bullied for it she softens her position, and a Muslim neighbor who Roseanne goes from fearing to defending. That scene itself should illustrate that this isn't a  Conservative Show. What I'm saying is that her work product doesn't mirror her Tweets. 

Also, she wasn't the only star on that show. You have crew, writers, and actors who are on varying sides of the political spectrum. This was an overreaction. You know who you get when you bring on Roseanne Barr. Shows like this are good for political discourse. You have very very few sitcoms that focus on a blue collar family these days. 

Again, what she said was stupid, but like many things it's more complicated than that. This cancellation also doesn't harm her as much as you think. She is in the public eye and has resumed her stand-up routine which is bringing in crowds. If the public reaction is fueled by schadenfreude, it's a failed waste of energy. 

One problem about that is that other people lost their jobs because of her tweet.  Those who enjoyed working on the show.  It's a real shame what happened to them.