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“If you were told it were possible to convince your mind that something existed when it

 

physically didn’t, and that it would become real to you, would you believe it? Maybe down

 

to small, inanimate things or superstitions – seeing faces in shadows or shapes in

 

half-awake states that seem to be people.

 

 

 

But what if you were told that you could create a separate entity in your mind – one that

 

thinks, feels, and acts for itself? An entity that speaks to you audibly, an entity that you

 

can see just as vividly as you see anyone or anything else? Could you believe it?

 

 

 

 

If you’re interested, you’ve taken your first step into the world of the tulpa phenomenon.”

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MLP Forums Tulpa Discussion Thread

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Hello, welcome to the Tulpa Discussion Thread. This is where the MLP Forums can, naturally, discuss everything related to the psychological phenomenon known as Tulpas.

 

 

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I saw your post on that other thread, and this actually sounds very interesting.

 

I don't think I would have the ability to make a "tulpa" myself, but that would be really awesome to have a Rainbow Dash tulpa lol :P

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Sounds interesting. Also manipulating reality doesn't make you insane/schizophrenic, because a) I believe sanity to begin with is an artificial concept invented to mitigate interspecies damage, and b ) its called creativity in layman's terms.

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Hmm this sounds fascinating from a mental/subconscious/psychological standpoint. I just think that issues are going to arise when people see a guy/girl interacting with their tulpa and to them it'll look like they're talking to themselves. Society isn't ready for that because 95% of the population won't understand this practice and they'll dismiss it as being crazy. Unless one interacts with their tulpa in private when they're at home only and not out in public.

 

Oh and mine would totally be The Doctor. Either the 10th or 11th depending on what mood I'm in.

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  On 2012-05-30 at 7:03 PM, 'Doctor XFizzle' said:

Hmm this sounds fascinating from a mental/subconscious/psychological standpoint. I just think that issues are going to arise when people see a guy/girl interacting with their tulpa and to them it'll look like they're talking to themselves. Society isn't ready for that because 95% of the population won't understand this practice and they'll dismiss it as being crazy. Unless one interacts with their tulpa in private when they're at home only and not out in public.

 

Oh and mine would totally be The Doctor. Either the 10th or 11th depending on what mood I'm in.

 

I think you can talk to them through some sort of telepathy, since they are in your mind anyway. No one but you will be able to see them.

 

I like that most of you are open-minded individuals instead of immediately shunning this, like most people would. When I first heard about this, I too was quite suspicious.

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  On 2012-05-30 at 7:16 PM, 'Crepuscule' said:

I think you can talk to them through some sort of telepathy, since they are in your mind anyway. No one but you will be able to see them.

 

I like that most of you are open-minded individuals instead of immediately shunning this, like most people would. When I first heard about this, I too was quite suspicious.

 

That ^ and they can be anything I want!?

 

I go through 100 hours a week doing nothing but sitting anyway...Might as well put it to good use.

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  On 2012-05-30 at 7:16 PM, 'Crepuscule' said:

I think you can talk to them through some sort of telepathy, since they are in your mind anyway. No one but you will be able to see them.

 

If that's the case, then people would feel more at ease about having a tulpa, so that they won't feel any societal pressures. I wonder if this practice could be used for therapeutic means by helping people form a tulpa to help overcome self-esteem issues or other mental blocks they might have.

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How many people have actually been successful in making a tulpa? And what is the success rate? Is it something that is highly difficult? Or is it something pretty much anyone can do?

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^What Arctic Wolf said.

And I would but I think it'd end up being more of a curse than a blessing honestly.

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  On 2012-05-30 at 7:32 PM, 'Arctic Wolf' said:

How many people have actually been successful in making a tulpa? And what is the success rate? Is it something that is highly difficult? Or is it something pretty much anyone can do?

 

Oh, I think anyone can do it, they just need the time and patience. Most people with successful tulpas say that this takes about 1-3 months, depending how dedicated you are. So if you do it for a single hour a day, about 4 months. 3 hours a day, about 1-2 months. I dunno, I ain't good a math. :P

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  On 2012-05-30 at 7:49 PM, 'Arrow' said:

So, um, you just sit down, meditating while thinking about the "thing"?

 

...Well, you don't just simply imagine it doing things, that would be called 'parroting'. You don't need to meditate, but It can help. You can just daydream if you can't meditate. Read some of the guides they have lying around. The process is actually pretty complicated, but anyone can do it.


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I read the entire form that the FAQ-man has given out. This process is fascinating I believe though that this process takes an amazing amount of time, patience, and the will to keep using up about a half hour to an hour of your day just thinking of your tulpa I for one am a amazing slacker all I do is think for hours on end. So I am going to try this some day but I have more important things to do right now.

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I saw your post in the confessions thread, and the idea still fascinates me. The very idea of imagining something so much that it actually becomes real to you is very interesting. I'd try to make a Fluttershy tulpa but I don't have the patience :(, if you can make a pony tulpa, I wanna know, and I wanna know what it's like.


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  On 2012-05-30 at 6:50 PM, 'Crepuscule' said:

I've posted about this in another thread(The confession thread.), but I think that this might make for some interesting conversation, so I decided to give it it's own thread.

 

I'm currently in the process of making a pony tulpa. (Link is Safe For Work.)

 

A Tulpa is basically a forced hallucination of a being that has it's own sentience. Think of it as an imaginary friend, but it's far from just that. When you think 'imaginary friend' you would probably think of a being that you can 'kind of' see, but is mostly not there, and any time you imagine them doing something, it's because you imagined them doing so.

 

This ain't that. Through about 100 hours of meditation (or even just daydreaming.), if you do everything right, they will look like almost exactly like as if it were in the real world(You won't be able to see what's behind them.), and anything it does will do so on it's own. You won't need to imagine it doing so, he/she just will.

 

"A hallucination that does things on it's own? Think of what horrors it could do!" I know this might sound scary, but this 'tulpa' won't be able to physically interact with the real world. It will acknowledge everything that you see and be able to talk to you and have it's own opinion on things that might be different from yours, and it will appear to be real but not physically be there, and it can take the from of anything you want; human, pony, male, female, whatever. This is basically a higher tier from of an 'imaginary friend', but about 20% cooler.

 

Why is this topic in the Sugarcube corner board? Well, this tulpa can take the form of anything you want. Including ponies.

 

If one of you mods still want to move this thread to somewhere else then OK.

 

Just read about it for yourself. It's better at explaining it than I am. And everyone on it's forums over there are quite sane and in fact a decent amount of them have pony tulpas. Links are SFW. I urge you to do some research about this before making an opinion. That is um, if you don't mind.

 

Inb4 people call me insane/schizophrenic/point me to the nearest mental hospital.

 

So I have a question. As your doing this it says to make the personality first so is that meaning try to have it talk to you first then build the body. I'm just trying to understand
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  On 2012-05-30 at 8:35 PM, 'Sageflare' said:

So I have a question. As your doing this it says to make the personality first so is that meaning try to have it talk to you first then build the body. I'm just trying to understand

 

There is no 'right' way to do it. For some people visualizing the body first might be comfortable for some people, and for some personality to come first. It's entirely up to you.

 

For me, I think it might be easier to do personality first. But again, it's up to you. Read as many of the guides as you can if you're serious about making a tulpa. If you read the guides you will get a better idea how this all works.

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So a tulpa is an advanced hallucination that has basically a "mind" of its own and you can interact with? That's kinda scary, but really cool if I had the patience :P.

 

Especially it it's an Applejack tulpa. Oh, the conversations we would engage in :D

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  On 2012-05-31 at 2:58 AM, 'Weyland' said:

Looks interesting. But I got this one tiny question>

 

What will happens if your imagination messed up and instead of a pony tulpa, you got a xenomorph one?

 

Then it will tell you to kill people.

I don't think that would be possible if you're trying for a pony tulpa, even if your mind is a little effed up.

 

The worst scenario I've come across was something along the lines of:

'Tulpa wanting to have sex with you 24/7.'

 

But I don't think you can have it be like that unless you REALLY tried, and you would need to think about sex 24/7 for that to happen. So don't worry.

 

Protip: if you guys want to try and create a tulpa, it's apparently a bad idea to have one that is a really fleshed out character from a cartoon, like Fluttershy or Twilight Sparkle. But something like Vinyl Scratch or Lyra or even an OC would be OK. The reason for this is apparently, if the tulpa sees a picture of itself, or a video of themselves, it will create some sorts of identity issues or something along those lines, but it is still possible to make a Fluttershy/Twilight/Whatever tulpa, you'll just need to take a precaution or two to make sure it doesn't get confused with its identity.

 

Btw, I'm only about 3 hours in on making a tulpa, so I'm far from an expert on this thing. Again, read as many guides as you can.

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So it's like creating a secluded portion of your imagination, and makes it gain a tiny bit of self-awareness? That's as far as I can get from the guides (CMIIW, my mind went blank if fed up with lots of words)

 

How do you actually knows that the Tulpa is what you want? Since having a tulpa was basically like carrying an invisible sibling all around you, looks like there's a possibility that the tulpa ended up as a jerk.


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  On 2012-05-31 at 6:55 AM, 'Weyland' said:

So it's like creating a secluded portion of your imagination, and makes it gain a tiny bit of self-awareness? That's as far as I can get from the guides (CMIIW, my mind went blank if fed up with lots of words)

 

How do you actually knows that the Tulpa is what you want? Since having a tulpa was basically like carrying an invisible sibling all around you, looks like there's a possibility that the tulpa ended up as a jerk.

 

As long as you keep on thinking that your tulpa is a kind and loving one, that is what it will be. The only way for it to be a jerk is if you purposely think of it being a jerk all the time.


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