What do you prefer between Friendship games and Legend of Everfree?

[Azureth 687]

Out of those which do you prefer? I prefer Friendship games easily. 

[Megas 27,651]

I feel Legend of Everfree avoids most of FG's issues, which was having a better villain and plot.

FG suffers from both a shitty bait and switch and wasted potential. They hyped the shit out of the Shadow five, and having an evil version of the mane 6 sounds pretty interesting especially when they were all original characters+Diet Lightning Dust. It's like they saw how well received the Dazzlings were and were like "You guys like having three evil waifuls? Well BAM! Here's five!." And then some genius decided to have them not have much to do in the movie and instead focus on some crabby old lady that no one ever knew about right until the movie came out, which was really shitty given how terrible of a villain she was. There was also the dropped "Homesick Sunset" plot that got dropped, and then Twilight transfering to Canterlot High, instead of just letting her stay in Crystal Prep and becoming friends with the Shadow 5. It's like they were afraid of having a group of girls without Twilight and needed Sci Twi around instead of letting Sunset and the rest of the girls carry the series, especially given how popular Sunset turned out to be

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[TBD 17,254]

None. They're both awful in their own special way.

[Latecomer 439]

Hmm... I'd give LoE the edge in that it's more coherent than Friendship Games, which tried to reconcile a lot of different elements. it was also nice to get away from Canterlot High, which had dominated the previous three movies, for a bit.

(BTW, Rainbow Rocks is better than both and Through the Mirror close to Friendship Games - perhaps a bit under.)

[Ganondorf8 11,314]

Legend of Everfree does a better job of utilizing the characters it has at its disposal by allowing everyone to contribute in their own way. Gloriosa also made for a more sympathetic villain as she was trying her best to save the camp only to become consumed by magic she didn't really understand. Also, Sunset shows herself to be a true mentor by guiding Sci-Twi on how to move on past being a monster as both of them put it.

[Shady Mist 56]

Legend of Everfree is my favorite out of the 4 EQG movies.

[Kamii 595]

Personally, I prefer Friendship Games but I can't exactly pinpoint why.

[Dark Qiviut 22,415]

Legend of Everfree. Besides being the best of the four EQG films, it has the tightest plot, better side characters, better villain, and does a better job connecting Equestrian magic to Pedestria than any other film by far.

[Dawn-Sunlight 1,228]

Well, one has so much wasted potential and the other has a really frustrating element, so I don't really like either of them compared to the other EQG movies, however, Friendship Games wins.

Friendship Games had a lot of wasted potential, from the cut Sunset story to the final scene that never amounted to anything else, and also for some reason felt the need to include Sci-Twi, a human Twilight, in the group, despite there already being both a way to communicate and get Twilight(pony) and a main character who was very capable of being the lead heroine.  I also kind of wish that the Crystal Prep main 5 students had done more, but they were pretty funny, and they did help the story, so they were fine(except for Indigo Zap, who had no time to shine, and Sunny Flare who has no personality and never gained any).  However, it is an enjoyable movie as well as actually having a plot that makes Sci-Twi semi-sympathetic, and by that, I mean she could have thrown the pendent away or destroyed it as soon as she saw that it was hurting people, her dog got zapped by magic because of her pendent, and Sci-Twi still continues to use it.  A whole bunch of giant plants try to eat the students participating in the event, plus her and her dog, she gets yelled at for using it and she still continues to keep it around her neck, despite knowing full well that she has no idea how this works, how to control it, or how to fix things the pendent does.  Although I do like angry Sunset, I do think she was a bit harsh on Sci-Twi.

Now, Legend of Everfree on the other hoof, did not have any wasted potential, but it was still pretty bad.  And there is one main reason for this.  It's obviously not Sunset, and it's not Spike.  It's not even the "No offense"s.  My problem with Legend of Everfree is the person it's focused around, Sci-Twi.  Pushing aside the fact that it was super unfair for Sunset, the person who should have had her own plot in Friendship Games, had to wait 5 movies to get her own solo one while the human Twilight shoved in because I don't know why gets to have two solo movies for her first and second movie, this movie was the reason why I hated Sci-Twi for so long, and even now I'm pretty biased against her.  Remember Rainbow Rocks, where Sunset has a lot of external conflict, but she doesn't do very much to any moping, certainly not to anywhere near the degree Sci-Twi was.  Sure, I can get that you're scared, but that doesn't mean all you do about your problems is sing a song about how you need to hide your problems, even from your talking dog.  I think having the movie very much focused on Sci-Twi really highlighted her moping and refusing to get help for herself a lot more than if this had been a Sunset-Sci-Twi movie, or really any other combination with Sci-Twi.  Yeah, maybe it's just a me problem, but it was very frustrating to sit through Legend of Everfree once I realized that all Sci-Twi was doing was moping and refusing to get help for herself, even though she doesn't have reason to do that, the whole school has been making her feel welcome, she already has a great group of friends, and she basically has her own friendship teacher and therapy dog.

Basically, Friendship Games is easier and more enjoyable for me to watch than Legend of Everfree, but they're both still the second and third worst EQG movies on my list.

[Splashee 28,564]

Legend of Everfree because I like it the most out of all EqG movies. The songs were great, and the over all story telling was just nice. It made me open up my eyes for the writers Kristine Sonco and Joanna Lewis, which later gave us "A Royal Problem" and "The Perfect Pair" (do I even have to say more?).

 

I actually forgot about Friendship Games until Bronies React reminded me it even existed, and I was not a fan. I liked Rainbow Rocks for its songs, but Friendship Games doesn't really have anything that interests me.

[bigbertha 414]

Friendship Games since it's the only halfway decent EQG movie. There are problems (most notably how formulaic the second act is), but I think Sci-Twi is the best character of any of the EQG movies and it's funnier than both Rainbow Rocks and Legend of Everfree. 

Legend of Everfree is insanely mediocre and a step down from Friendship Games in pretty much every way. It looks worse, it sounds worse, Sci-Twi is worse, the comedy is so much worse, and the writing is worse. The dialogue is trash. The only redeemable things are Gloriosa and some of the interactions between Sci-Twi and Timber... Yet it's still better than Rainbow Rocks. 

Oh and the first EQG is by far my favorite. Overall incompetence aside, It's the most entertaining by a long shot. 

[Thrond 3,263]

Friendship Games is a mess but it's got its heart in the right place and I still find it pretty fun. It feels almost unfinished, because there's all sorts of scenes that go nowhere and events that don't have any buildup, but it has some interesting ideas and a lot of charm. 

Meanwhile, Legend of Everfree bored me senseless. Could not connect to Twilight's plight at all, because I was never sure how seriously I should take it. Maybe I would get it more on a second viewing but it's 45 minutes long and incredibly mild so I don't really want to do that. 

[Sepul-Coloratura 762]

Legend of Everfree was better to watch because I kept lowering my expectations whenever I finished watching another EQG movie.

[Jane 123]

The truth, both are so bad for the inclusion of Sci-Twi, but I prefer Friendship Games, because at least it doesn't focus too much on Twilight

[Latecomer 439]

4 minutes ago, frida said:

The truth, both are so bad for the inclusion of Sci-Twi, but I prefer Friendship Games, because at least it doesn't focus too much on Twilight

What's wrong with Sci-Twi?

[SunsetShimmerStan 36]

On 2019-10-16 at 1:57 PM, Dawn-Sunlight said:

 

Now, Legend of Everfree on the other hoof, did not have any wasted potential, but it was still pretty bad.  And there is one main reason for this.  It's obviously not Sunset, and it's not Spike.  It's not even the "No offense"s.  My problem with Legend of Everfree is the person it's focused around, Sci-Twi.  Pushing aside the fact that it was super unfair for Sunset, the person who should have had her own plot in Friendship Games, had to wait 5 movies to get her own solo one while the human Twilight shoved in because I don't know why gets to have two solo movies for her first and second movie, this movie was the reason why I hated Sci-Twi for so long, and even now I'm pretty biased against her.  Remember Rainbow Rocks, where Sunset has a lot of external conflict, but she doesn't do very much to any moping, certainly not to anywhere near the degree Sci-Twi was.  Sure, I can get that you're scared, but that doesn't mean all you do about your problems is sing a song about how you need to hide your problems, even from your talking dog.  I think having the movie very much focused on Sci-Twi really highlighted her moping and refusing to get help for herself a lot more than if this had been a Sunset-Sci-Twi movie, or really any other combination with Sci-Twi.  Yeah, maybe it's just a me problem, but it was very frustrating to sit through Legend of Everfree once I realized that all Sci-Twi was doing was moping and refusing to get help for herself, even though she doesn't have reason to do that, the whole school has been making her feel welcome, she already has a great group of friends, and she basically has her own friendship teacher and therapy dog.

Basically, Friendship Games is easier and more enjoyable for me to watch than Legend of Everfree, but they're both still the second and third worst EQG movies on my list.

So how would you have fixed Legend of Everfree then and made Sci-Twi's arc more enjoyable? Considering the movie does help in fleshing out the Sunset/Sci-Twi dynamic that is pretty important, how would you have improved it?

 

On 2019-10-16 at 2:31 PM, bigbertha said:

Friendship Games since it's the only halfway decent EQG movie. There are problems (most notably how formulaic the second act is), but I think Sci-Twi is the best character of any of the EQG movies and it's funnier than both Rainbow Rocks and Legend of Everfree. 

Legend of Everfree is insanely mediocre and a step down from Friendship Games in pretty much every way. It looks worse, it sounds worse, Sci-Twi is worse, the comedy is so much worse, and the writing is worse. The dialogue is trash. The only redeemable things are Gloriosa and some of the interactions between Sci-Twi and Timber... Yet it's still better than Rainbow Rocks. 

Oh and the first EQG is by far my favorite. Overall incompetence aside, It's the most entertaining by a long shot. 

So how would you have fixed Rainbow Rocks and Legend of Everfree then?

[Rafa Stary 3,088]

Movie 3 was more memorable for me so my pick is Friendship Games, but also because I think Friendship Games pretty much works a as perfect trilogy ending, I think that the first 3 all try to tell the same story but from different perspectivers (1: Twilight 2: Sunset 3: Sci-Twi) with the first villain trying to become a hero in the second and then is stablished as the leader in the third by replacing Twilight, then she meets another Twilight and faces her a similar way she was defeated in Movie 1, all of this happening in the school, for me it really worked as a trilogy with a specific arc. Legend of Everfree for me could've been the beginning of a new trilogy, where the events don't take place in the school, I believe Movie 5 and 6 would likely take place in different places as well, it's how I think this new trilogy would've been like. Unfortunately they never made any new movies, so Legend of Everfree just makes me feel that there's something Incomplete, or that it doesn't belong to the initial "trilogy", as the rest of its own new trilogy was never made, so it gives me "extra" vibes rather than something "big" like the trilogy ~☆

[SunsetShimmerStan 36]

5 minutes ago, Rafa Stary said:

Legend of Everfree for me could've been the beginning of a new trilogy, where the events don't take place in the school, I believe Movie 5 and 6 would likely take place in different places as well, it's how I think this new trilogy would've been like. Unfortunately they never made any new movies, so Legend of Everfree just makes me feel that there's something Incomplete, or that it doesn't belong to the initial "trilogy", as the rest of its own new trilogy was never made, so it gives me "extra" vibes rather than something "big" like the trilogy ~☆

Technically Forgotten Friendship, Rollercoaster of Friendship, Spring Breakdown, and Sunset's Backstage Pass are technically TV movies too.

I would say Rollercoaster of Friendship, Spring Breakdown, and Sunset's Backstage Pass make their own trilogy too as more light hearted fare that focuses more on the rest of the Rainbooms (Rarity, Applejack, Rainbow Dash, and Pinkie) and happen outside the school.

[Rafa Stary 3,088]

10 minutes ago, SunsetShimmerStan said:

Technically Forgotten Friendship, Rollercoaster of Friendship, Spring Breakdown, and Sunset's Backstage Pass are technically TV movies too.

I would say Rollercoaster of Friendship, Spring Breakdown, and Sunset's Backstage Pass make their own trilogy too as more light hearted fare that focuses more on the rest of the Rainbooms (Rarity, Applejack, Rainbow Dash, and Pinkie) and happen outside the school.

And that's my problem with them, they don't try to be the same thing that the trilogy or Movie 4 tried to be, for me these feel more like a extended extra feature like Rainbow Roadtrip and that's fine, but it's not enough for me, I think they still should've made more movies