Rainbow Dash versus Pikachu...FIGHT!

[NavelColt 22,880]

I love how people act like Dash is a Pokemon. In my opinion, you cannot call her flying, call Pikachu electric, and call it end match. No. Dash is not a Pokemon. The laws of the Pokemon universe do not apply to her. You should be approaching this from a ability-by-ability stand-point, and that's it. Thusly, I state again, Dash is fast, perhaps too fast for Pikachu to even hit when she's going at full speed, as she can break the sound barrier with ease, and shatter the visible light spectrum with the rainboom. Which she can turn into a nuke. Second, Dash is a weather pony, she's dealt with lightning a shitton, hell, she causes the stuff as well.

 

To me, it's a far cry to say Pikachu has this in the bag, and unlikely to say that she'd win at all. If Pikachu somehow get's Dash turned into a conductor, for example, get her covered in water, that will conduct the mouses' lightning a hell of a lot easier, then sure, I'd say Dash would be in trouble. But head-to-head, Dash has more advantages as far as I see it.

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

Quick correction, mach 5 is not her top speed. It's her average speed lol

 

She goes mach 10 at sonic rainboom speed

 

I am on your side however, I believe RD would win

 

Well, technically I'm not trying to side with either one of the two combatants. I'm just trying to see logic being used in who would actually win in a fight with what information is given. Rainbow Dash so far looks the more victorious in a battle right now is all.

[Lostwanderer 367]

]I didn't say she could instantaneously make tornadoes. It takes time for an attack like that. Even so, Dash actually knows Karate (I find this really strange but going with the show -_-)

 

So she has a huge upper hand in actual physical combat against Pikachu whom is left with bites and tackles. Yes, I think Pikachu has a great amount of Agile in it, but the same goes for Dash here as well.

 

If it took time to mak tornados Pikachu would have time to hit her with lightning. Also i don't see pikachu using physical attacks against rainbowdash. Just dodge ans shock would work fine, even if it's lots of small ones, it's eventually gonna wear her down, Pikachu has about 14 years of experience in hardcore batteling aswell.

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

I love how people act like Dash is a Pokemon. In my opinion, you cannot call her flying, call Pikachu electric, and call it end match. No. Dash is not a Pokemon. The laws of the Pokemon universe do not apply to her. You should be approaching this from a ability-by-ability stand-point, and that's it. Thusly, I state again, Dash is fast, perhaps too fast for Pikachu to even hit when she's going at full speed, as she can break the sound barrier with ease, and shatter the visible light spectrum with the rainboom. Which she can turn into a nuke. Second, Dash is a weather pony, she's dealt with lightning a shitton, hell, she causes the stuff as well.

 

To me, it's a far cry to say Pikachu has this in the bag, and unlikely to say that she'd win at all. If Pikachu somehow get's Dash turned into a conductor, for example, get her covered in water, that will conduct the mouses' lightning a hell of a lot easier, then sure, I'd say Dash would be in trouble. But head-to-head, Dash has more advantages as far as I see it.

 

Please read my previous post on page 2 of this topic. Also on the sonic rainboom issue, she just isn't that idiotic to use something that she wouldn't be able to control in an actual fight.

[NavelColt 22,880]

Please read my previous post on page 2 of this topic. Also on the sonic rainboom issue, she just isn't that idiotic to use something that she wouldn't be able to control in an actual fight.

 

I saw it already, a very nice post Did you see me say 'everyone'? Nope. I was aiming my comment at the people who are treating Dash as a fly type that can be fit into their simple little Pokemon equation of 'electric < flying'.

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

If it took time to mak tornados Pikachu would have time to hit her with lightning. Also i don't see pikachu using physical attacks against rainbowdash. Just dodge ans shock would work fine, even if it's lots of small ones, it's eventually gonna wear her down, Pikachu has about 14 years of experience in hardcore batteling aswell.

 

.....please don't tell me you are assuming that's actually true. The show may be that old, but the characters sure are not. I mean, look at Ash. If that were true he would be what, 27 right now?! I think that Pikachu really only has about 3-4 years of combat in it's belt. Also I wasn't stating Pikachu would actually fight against Dash. That would be suicide seeing as Dash has the upper hand there so yes I can see it dodging if anything. But Dash was taught in Karate and they are well trained to fight against scraps like that. It's hard to say about a physical confrontation, but unless Pikachu leaves that well alone I don't see it coming out of it.

 

I saw it already, a very nice post Did you see me say 'everyone'? Nope. I was aiming my comment at the people who are treating Dash as a fly type that can be fit into their simple little Pokemon equation of 'electric < flying'.

 

Oh no, I saw that just wanted to put out some additional info into light about this very strange subject tonight (it's night time for me anyways) As seeing, that is the biggest advantage she has and if she could manage to grab onto Pikachu and fly into the sky I think she has a chance to heavily damage it. I'm actually so far willing to see Dash winning, but not by the landslide everyone I've read is stating; it would come with heavy damage in the end on her.

[MallaJong1 202]

Pikachu is immune to lightening. So we can take that out of the equation. Rainbow Dash has no chance with using the clouds to strike at Pikachu.

Rainbow Dash is not immune to lightening. So at least Pikachu has an upper-hand in this aspect.

 

Rainbow Dash is faster, but I only see Rainbow Dash's flying speeds to only aid her in dodging, not particularly attacking. The moment Rainbow even gets close to touching Pikachu, the pokemon would charge his entire body to the point that even if Rainbow Dash DID touch him, the pegasus would be shocked to Kingdom Come.

 

Also, WHY WOULD RAINBOW DASH USE THE SONIC RAINBOOM on Pikachu, and when would she ever have the opportunity and time to use it? Is she heading straight down to the ground to produce it? Does a RAINBOW even damage anything at all? It's just light! Pikach would not be damaged by such an attack.

 

Rainbow Dash has Karate, but Pikachu's Level 120 skills in agility allow the Pokemon to dodge every attack Rainbow attempts, as well as produce a lightening shock at such a close-contact infighting.

 

PIKACHU WINS!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lostwanderer 367]

.....please don't tell me you are assuming that's actually true. The show may be that old, but the characters sure are not. I mean, look at Ash. If that were true he would be what, 27 right now?! I think that Pikachu really only has about 3-4 years of combat in it's belt. Also I wasn't stating Pikachu would actually fight against Dash. That would be suicide seeing as Dash has the upper hand there so yes I can see it dodging if anything. But Dash was taught in Karate and they are well trained to fight against scraps like that. It's hard to say about a physical confrontation, but unless Pikachu leaves that well alone I don't see it coming out of it.

 

Well, i don't per say do believe it wass 13 years, i do however believe it was 13 years worth of experienece, i mean after 40 gym battles, many many many other battles, and 13 movies i'm pretty sure that translates to roughly that amount of experience.

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

Pikachu is immune to lightening. So we can take that out of the equation. Rainbow Dash has no chance with using the clouds to strike at Pikachu.

Rainbow Dash is not immune to lightening. So at least Pikachu has an upper-hand in this aspect.

 

Rainbow Dash is faster, but I only see Rainbow Dash's flying speeds to only aid her in dodging, not particularly attacking. The moment Rainbow even gets close to touching Pikachu, the pokemon would charge his entire body to the point that even if Rainbow Dash DID touch him, the pegasus would be shocked to Kingdom Come.

 

Also, WHY WOULD RAINBOW DASH USE THE SONIC RAINBOOM on Pikachu, and when would she ever have the opportunity and time to use it? Is she heading straight down to the ground to produce it? Does a RAINBOW even damage anything at all? It's just light! Pikach would not be damaged by such an attack.

 

Rainbow Dash has Karate, but Pikachu's Level 120 skills in agility allow the Pokemon to dodge every attack Rainbow attempts, as well as produce a lightening shock at such a close-contact infighting.

 

PIKACHU WINS!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

....please don't be so naive. Have you at all been reading any of the posts all of us have been putting here?

 

As for you're "Pikachu is immune to lightning" bit, remember how the very first season of the series has Pikachu fighting Raichu? It kept getting electric shocks like crazy! AND lost the first battle from it.....it's not immune.

 

And where do you get LVL 120 from?

[MallaJong1 202]

....please don't be so naive. Have you at all been reading any of the posts all of us have been putting here?

 

As for you're "Pikachu is immune to lightning" bit, remember how the very first season of the series has Pikachu fighting Raichu? It kept getting electric shocks like crazy! AND lost the first battle from it.....it's not immune.

 

And where do you get LVL 120 from?

 

By Level 120, Pikachu is already immune to lightening.

In the original post, it is stated that Pikachu is at LEVEL 120.

 

Have you been reading the posts so far?

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

Well, i don't per say do believe it wass 13 years, i do however believe it was 13 years worth of experienece, i mean after 40 gym battles, many many many other battles, and 13 movies i'm pretty sure that translates to roughly that amount of experience.

 

I may not watch the show all that much anymore, but I do not see them keeping the show go on with an adult playing the lead, a 27 year old adult hanging around 10-13 year old kids that travel with an old man trying to gain badges for.....okay this is just silly right here.

 

Pikachu more than likely has about 3-4 years of experience. I can see each season roughing around to maybe 3 months time, and each movie a few days time, maybe a week maximum.

 

By Level 120, Pikachu is already immune to lightening.

In the original post, it is stated that Pikachu is at LEVEL 120.

 

Have you been reading the posts so far?

 

Oh I had. I just can't seem to figure out where you got this strange notion to beef up someone to exclusively make it so Pikachu would win. Wanna give him psychic powers while you're at it?

[Lostwanderer 367]

I may not watch the show all that much anymore, but I do not see them keeping the show go on with an adult playing the lead, a 27 year old adult hanging around 10-13 year old kids that travel with an old man trying to gain badges for.....okay this is just silly right here.

 

Pikachu more than likely has about 3-4 years of experience. I can see each season roughing around to maybe 3 months time, and each movie a few days time, maybe a week maximum.

 

3-4 years of hardcore training, and it would at least be 5 seeing as a pokemon league is held each year. 3months i could agree to. But that's still a ton of training of hardcore fighting, Rainbowdash on the other hand, despite the show, has done very little fighting, against the manticore she was knocked away quite quickly, and fluttershy managed to catch up with her while AJ ropped her. The way i see it, most of her power comes from the elements of harmony, all 6 being together. I do admit the Elements of harmony would Kick Pikachu's butt, alone she's not as powerful as she may seem.

[MallaJong1 202]

I may not watch the show all that much anymore, but I do not see them keeping the show go on with an adult playing the lead, a 27 year old adult hanging around 10-13 year old kids that travel with an old man trying to gain badges for.....okay this is just silly right here.

 

Pikachu more than likely has about 3-4 years of experience. I can see each season roughing around to maybe 3 months time, and each movie a few days time, maybe a week maximum.

 

Oh I had. I just can't seem to figure out where you got this strange notion to beef up someone to exclusively make it so Pikachu would win. Wanna give him psychic powers while you're at it?

 

We're talking a Pokemon that has been around since 1996. By this time Pikachu has gotten to Level 120 (even WITH the 3-4 years' worth of experience you're so heatedly standing by.)

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

3-4 years of hardcore training, and it would at least be 5 seeing as a pokemon league is held each year. 3months i could agree to. But that's still a ton of training of hardcore fighting, Rainbowdash on the other hand, despite the show, has done very little fighting, against the manticore she was knocked away quite quickly, and fluttershy managed to catch up with her while AJ ropped her. The way i see it, most of her power comes from the elements of harmony, all 6 being together. I do admit the Elements of harmony would Kick Pikachu's butt, alone she's not as powerful as she may seem.

 

Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to advocate having Rainbow Dash win. Just trying to see where the info takes me and see where that goes. As for the time slot, I'm not exactly sure it was "hardcore training" Yeah, I think Pikachu did a lot of training but there were still episodes where they either relaxed or traveled, and not every one had Pikachu fight; Ash balanced it out with other poke'mon he possessed with him.

 

I can see where you're coming from with the Manticore thing though. I don't think Dash has a very good sense of fighting to be truthful, but she does have an amazing amount of stamina and tolerance that is working in her favor here.

 

We're talking a Pokemon that has been around since 1996. By this time Pikachu has gotten to Level 120 (even WITH the 3-4 years' worth of experience you're so heatedly standing by.)

 

Seriously still stuck on the LVL 120 thing? Unless it's a hack, officially poke'mon stop at LVL 100. Yes, they can get some stack boosters but that' really about it. If you had argued on skills or attacks that Pikachu may acquire that would make more sense than going out of bounds from the usual rules that the Poke' series stands by.

[MallaJong1 202]

Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to advocate having Rainbow Dash win. Just trying to see where the info takes me and see where that goes. As for the time slot, I'm not exactly sure it was "hardcore training" Yeah, I think Pikachu did a lot of training but there were still episodes where they either relaxed or traveled, and not every one had Pikachu fight; Ash balanced it out with other poke'mon he possessed with him.

 

I can see where you're coming from with the Manticore thing though. I don't think Dash has a very good sense of fighting to be truthful, but she does have an amazing amount of stamina and tolerance that is working in her favor here.

 

Seriously still stuck on the LVL 120 thing? Unless it's a hack, officially poke'mon stop at LVL 100. Yes, they can get some stack boosters but that' really about it. If you had argued on skills or attacks that Pikachu may acquire that would make more sense than going out of bounds from the usual rules that the Poke' series stands by.

 

In the original Generation 1 Pokemon games, Pikachu can produce a Power level 120 Thunder attack, baby!

[Lostwanderer 367]

Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to advocate having Rainbow Dash win. Just trying to see where the info takes me and see where that goes. As for the time slot, I'm not exactly sure it was "hardcore training" Yeah, I think Pikachu did a lot of training but there were still episodes where they either relaxed or traveled, and not every one had Pikachu fight; Ash balanced it out with other poke'mon he possessed with him.

 

I can see where you're coming from with the Manticore thing though. I don't think Dash has a very good sense of fighting to be truthful, but she does have an amazing amount of stamina and tolerance that is working in her favor here.

 

While she may have alot of potential i'm not convinced she knows how to use it.

Also, in the third generation Ash battled Winona the flying gym leader, pikachu managed to defeat her pokemon with little trouble, Pikachu's experience from this battle woul directly help him in fighting Rainbowdash.

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

In the original Generation 1 Pokemon games, Pikachu can produce a Power level 120 Thunder attack, baby!

 

And in a previous post I stated that those types of attacks in specific would be the ones to actually damage Rainbow Dash. The other smaller based attacks wouldn't do much but be helpful in a distraction tactic, but not much else. I really am trying to see what else Pikachu has to offer since I do like the little fella but so far all it has to offer is those high level lightning attacks. That's really about it.

While she may have alot of potential i'm not convinced she knows how to use it.

Also, in the third generation Ash battled Winona the flying gym leader, pikachu managed to defeat her pokemon with little trouble, Pikachu's experience from this battle woul directly help him in fighting Rainbowdash.

 

How exactly? Pikachu has had fights in flying pokemon before, but Dash isn't a pokemon. Unlike a pokemon she doesn't think in basic attacks like "Lightning Bolt" and "Quick Attack". She has more to work with because of that. That, ultimately, is her biggest advantage in this battle.

[Lostwanderer 367]

How exactly? Pikachu has had fights in flying pokemon before, but Dash isn't a pokemon. Unlike a pokemon she doesn't think in basic attacks like "Lightning Bolt" and "Quick Attack". She has more to work with because of that. That, ultimately, is her biggest advantage in this battle.

 

In the battle with Winona flying pkemon had a major advantage, due to the set up of the gym. While Dash is not a pokemon, even in this situation, the scenario is simmilar. Dash may have unconventional attacks, but Pikachu is highly adaptable, With previous experience in a situation similar to this and control over his attacks.

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

In the battle with Winona flying pkemon had a major advantage, due to the set up of the gym. While Dash is not a pokemon, even in this situation, the scenario is simmilar. Dash may have unconventional attacks, but Pikachu is highly adaptable, With previous experience in a situation similar to this and control over his attacks.

 

You make a good point there. There is, but one major thing that I must point out though. While Rainbow Dash can fly and will most likely try to fight while doing so, she can and most likely will be willing to go ground tactics immediately with physical combat. Although Dash is not a pokemon, that could be taken into equivalence of having a Pidgeot transforming over to a Primape. It might actually be a bit overwhelming for Pikachu who would not be prepared for such a strange and ultimately confusing tactic it has no way to 'tackle'.

 

I can so far seeing Dash, as of right now, winning but not without heavy damage. If a rematch were to ensue on a later date I can see Pikachu coming victor from now being able to fight someone that could do both from the experience of the last battle. But right now with all the info from everyone's inputs, I can't see Pikachu winning this just yet.

Edited July 27, 2012 by Hazardus_Havard

[Lostwanderer 367]

You make a good point there. There is, but one major thing that I must point out though. While Rainbow Dash can fly and will most likely try to fight while doing so, she can and most likely will be willing to go ground tactics immediately with physical combat. Although Dash is not a pokemon, that could be taken into equivalence of having a Pidgeot transforming over to a Primape. It might actually be a bit overwhelming for Pikachu who would not be prepared for such a strange and ultimately confusing tactic it has no way to 'tackle'.

 

If she went with ground tactics she immediately looses speed, and pikachu would easily be more agile and easily faster. Also i find your comparion to be a bit innacurate. Pikachu is in no way like Primeape, primape is alot stronger physically, and does not have a ranged advantage. pikachu would still use his ranged advantage. Also pikachu is well prepared for flying pokemon, there are many accounts of Pikachu taking on flying pokemone throughot the 13 seasons.

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

If she went with ground tactics she immediately looses speed, and pikachu would easily be more agile and easily faster. Also i find your comparion to be a bit innacurate. Pikachu is in no way like Primeape, primape is alot stronger physically, and does not have a ranged advantage. pikachu would still use his ranged advantage. Also pikachu is well prepared for flying pokemon, there are many accounts of Pikachu taking on flying pokemone throughot the 13 seasons.

 

...I was agreeing with you on the account of Pikachu being able to fly. I was trying to point out that Dash knows Karate in the sense she knows combat of the physical nature. If we were to compare that as to a pokemon, it would closely resemble that of a Primape, just without the usual rage of one. I was trying to compare having to fight someone that could go from flying straight into a physical melee without much trouble.

 

Plus Rainbow Dash can still compete in speed from ground though not as fast obviously since Pikachu has the smaller size and is built for ground speed. Though Rainbow Dash is not as agile I don't think the small physique of Pikachu is going to sustain much damage from Dash whom from the shows accounts have taken many, many blunt hits from idiotic situations and came out of it just fine.

 

Really the only attacks I can guess would do any greater amounts of damage is the bigger lightning attacks such as Lightning Bolt, and even then Pikachu only has a few shots in at that attack before she gets in with melee and throws hoofs at it.

 

Ever taken a hoof to the body? It freaking hurts!

[Lostwanderer 367]

...I was agreeing with you on the account of Pikachu being able to fly. I was trying to point out that Dash knows Karate in the sense she knows combat of the physical nature. If we were to compare that as to a pokemon, it would closely resemble that of a Primape, just without the usual rage of one. I was trying to compare having to fight someone that could go from flying straight into a physical melee without much trouble.

 

Plus Rainbow Dash can still compete in speed from ground though not as fast obviously since Pikachu has the smaller size and is built for ground speed. Though Rainbow Dash is not as agile I don't think the small physique of Pikachu is going to sustain much damage from Dash whom from the shows accounts have taken many, many blunt hits from idiotic situations and came out of it just fine.

 

Really the only attacks I can guess would do any greater amounts of damage is the bigger lightning attacks such as Lightning Bolt, and even then Pikachu only has a few shots in at that attack before she gets in with melee and throws hoofs at it.

 

Ever taken a hoof to the body? It freaking hurts!

 

I think pikachu is too agile in this case to be hit by rainbowdash, not to mention Pikachu's double team would really take the piss out of Dash, she'd get mad, hto headed and charge head first, losing all focus and being easily taken down.

 

Why did i not bring up double team earlier? >.>

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

I think pikachu is too agile in this case to be hit by rainbowdash, not to mention Pikachu's double team would really take the piss out of Dash, she'd get mad, hto headed and charge head first, losing all focus and being easily taken down.

 

Why did i not bring up double team earlier? >.>

 

I actually nearly forgot about that attack. I just don't recall seeing Pikachu use it in, well, ever so I pretty much assumed Pikachu "forgot" the attack for a different one.

 

Yeah, I can see Dash becoming stupid with gusto trying to figure the right one out and charging. I can even see her now sustaining even more damage. But It still leaves to reason that the only attacks that will still do any actual damage is the higher level lightning attacks. I'm actually going through a full list of Pikachu's attacks and can't seem to find any that would be useful for melee damage.

 

It does change the outcome of the battle though. I can see Dash still winning, but she is barely on the cusp of unconsciousness at the end.

[Lostwanderer 367]

I actually nearly forgot about that attack. I just don't recall seeing Pikachu use it in, well, ever so I pretty much assumed Pikachu "forgot" the attack for a different one.

 

Yeah, I can see Dash becoming stupid with gusto trying to figure the right one out and charging. I can even see her now sustaining even more damage. But It still leaves to reason that the only attacks that will still do any actual damage is the higher level lightning attacks. I'm actually going through a full list of Pikachu's attacks and can't seem to find any that would be useful for melee damage.

 

You don't need melle damage, while Electricity isn't instagib it's still doing damage. On the ground pikachu mayhave to go with the "death by a thousand cuts stratagy" But i see it worky quite well, while pikachu would get tired, RD would tire before Pikachu. I mean, let's face it, RD is lazy, very very lazy, when it comes to athletics she does it in small bursts, not oeer a long time. I don't see RD winning, and if she did, she owuld indeed be unconcious.

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

You don't need melle damage, while Electricity isn't instagib it's still doing damage. On the ground pikachu mayhave to go with the "death by a thousand cuts stratagy" But i see it worky quite well, while pikachu would get tired, RD would tire before Pikachu. I mean, let's face it, RD is lazy, very very lazy, when it comes to athletics she does it in small bursts, not oeer a long time. I don't see RD winning, and if she did, she owuld indeed be unconcious.

 

I could almost agree to the "1,000 cuts" strategy. But through the franchise it is observed that a pokemon only has a limited amount of attacks it may use during any given time. It's sorta difficult to whittle someones health down when you find yourself with nothing in the end.

 

And I don't agree with RD being "lazy" as you put it. Yeah, she relaxes from time to time, but when it comes to a physical interest, she's there where it counts. She is so stupidly competitive it's amazing she hasn't been shown trying to have races or any other physical bouts around Equestria with every pony there was in the town.

 

So yeah, I sorta still stand by my last point. It's not like I'm trying to make RD the big winner here, I'm just working with a fairly reasonable amount of data being processed through here. It did start out with Dash just trouncing the guy but in the end its barely a win for Dash. Any subsequent fight for the two afterwards and the roles would be reversed easily with experience gained. I could still see Pikachu winning but it would have to be one of those stupidly lucky wins that don't really seem likely.

 

I've gotta hit the hay. It's been entertaining debating this rather strange topic.