General Chat Thread

[Ron Jeremy 2,032]

it costed around 1.5/3 dollars. like i said, thrift stores are extremely cheap.

 

Mmm, in that case, you might as well buy it if you aren't short on cash.

[Arcanel 3,041]

My shoulder pain is a long tern injury, i tore my Deltoid and it never healed right so I have this constant sting in my shoulder but sometimes it go's into full blown pain for a while or two i can still work though it when I type and stuff but I scruff up the paper too much so i don't draw when I comes up or gets to bad.

Oh, crap..... How did THAT happen?

 

Most likely it would mean the absolute minimum of effort to provide the absolute minimum of experiences to maximize the profits.

Companies are not in it to make good games, only to make profit.

 

Trust the indie, abhor the company.

 

Considering how Indie's have the thing of working their flanks off to get a good game and hope that they start getting into the market, yes, I can agree with this. Wait, what would happen if several indies got together? And for that reason, if they a different console?

 

 

^ Condones pirating

 

So do I

 

If one can look that cute while pirating, sign me in!

[Typhoid Libby 1,265]

That's kinda why I brought up the idea in the first place. Too many developers are going for multi-console releases, but the Xbox and PS3 essentially have the exact same controller, just with the analog stick in a different place.

 

PS3 and Xbox are very different platforms, both suck. Where is the issue? If there is no competition, that means bad games.

Console gaming is a bad thing to lead the pack anyway, hardware and control method are set in stone.

 

Multi console releases are a good thing, no single game will ever sell a console unless a two consoles are released in the same week and another release game is better.

Multi console releases means more sales. More sales means more profits, more profits means more games.

 

Current gen is dead anyway, and PC will always trump consoles.

As soon as a console is released, PC outperforms it in matter of months.

It's not about having multi platform releases, it's about games being developed for consoles in the first place.

 

And brah, you never used those Controllers anyway, have you?

That little thing makes the whole thing completely different.

Nevermind the fact that they are entirely different companies.

 

Considering how Indie's have the thing of working their flanks off to get a good game and hope that they start getting into the market, yes, I can agree with this. Wait, what would happen if several indies got together? And for that reason, if they a different console?

 

Console gaming is bad, m'kay?

 

Nothing good will come out of having a stunted development platform for any great length of time.

It works fine for a few years, then it starts to grate on everyone and everything.

[PonyEcho 1,610]

Oh, crap..... How did THAT happen?

 

though utter and complete stupidity on my part, and I'll leave it at that.

its a good reminder to myself anyway so I consider it a blessing and a curse

[Bari 7,023]

PC will always trump consoles.

But the thing is, a good computer is hard to come by, while a console is uniform quality if you want a certain one.

[Arcanel 3,041]

Console gaming is bad, m'kay? Nothing good will come out of having a stunted development platform for any great length of time. It works fine for a few years, then it starts to grate on everyone and everything.

Meaning the greatest success would come if you put your base as a company who is only worried in making great games for whatever console instead and having a great amount of adaptability, instead of making a console themselves right? Since Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo have created the consoles mostly used now, they are forever tied to make consoles that they know will only have a certain amount of time, right?

 

though utter and complete stupidity on my part, and I'll leave it at that.

its a good reminder to myself anyway so I consider it a blessing and a curse

 

Ah, looking at the bright side. Well done on your part, on that regard. It's like a constant "Note to self: Do not ever do something so stupid ever again", and if that doesn't work, the pain works like an alarm. An annoying alarm, but then again, what alarm ISN'T annoying?

[Ganaram Inukshuk 3,682]

My opinion on gaming systems/consoles: Since I never had one before, I will likely never have one.

 

Plus, I do all my gaming on a computer, anyway. Or at least will do so when my build gets up and running.

[FizzyImp 1,838]

Current gen is dead anyway, and PC will always trump consoles.

As soon as a console is released, PC outperforms it in matter of months.

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Console gaming is bad, m'kay?

 

Please tell me you're just joking...

 

But the thing is, a good computer is hard to come by, while a console is uniform quality if you want a certain one.

 

Exactly.

Consoles are built for gaming and get a constant stream of upgrades.

My PC can't run most modern games, and to upgrade that heap of metal to run them, I'd need about £1000... Then a few years after that, I'd need another chunk of money.

[Typhoid Libby 1,265]

But the thing is, a good computer is hard to come by, while a console is uniform quality if you want a certain one.

 

But the thing is that consoles suck and limit the overall quality.

 

Nevermind the fact that you don't get to release on consoles unless you pass the sometimes idiotical limitations by the console makers.

 

I can understand the simplicity argument, same reason I have 360 here. But it does not make it any more logical to support console gaming.

It limits.

Gaming has become some sort of Corporate fuckfest towards underaged consumers instead being about making good games.

 

Look at Call of Duty.

It's rated M and the main fangroup is under 18.

No notable progress in the genre for five games now.

Most successful series of console gaming ever and TF2 is more involved, fun, and complex than CoD will be.

 

Please tell me you're just joking...

 

Consoles are built for gaming and get a constant stream of upgrades.

 

It's a fact, consoles get outdated immediately after release.

 

Consoles are built to be consoles, not to support gaming per say.

And no amount of Software upgrades will make consoles any better than they are. Hardware is what counts.

It's just the same as Drivers for Graphic cards, those get updated all the time too. Consoles do not get any "Upgrades" in the course of their lifespan.

 

And a decent gaming PC is about 800 plus 200 yearly to keep up to date.

You make that up easily by using Steam or any other PC exclusive distribution platform with lower prices on games.

PC is just better. Fact.

 

That does not make consoles bad, just the worse option to pick.

And somehow consoles have become the maximum on technical standards which IS bad. Consoles should be the ones that adapt and are ported to.

[Bari 7,023]

 

But the thing is that consoles suck and limit the overall quality.

 

Nevermind the fact that you don't get to release on consoles unless you pass the sometimes idiotical limitations by the console makers.

 

I can understand the simplicity argument, same reason I have 360 here. But it does not make it any more logical to support console gaming.

It limits.

Gaming has become some sort of Corporate fuckfest towards underaged consumers instead being about making good games.

 

Look at Call of Duty.

It's rated M and the main fangroup is under 18.

No notable progress in the genre for five games now.

Most successful series of console gaming ever and TF2 is more involved, fun, and complex than CoD will be.

 

 

It's a fact, consoles get outdated immediately after release.

 

Consoles are built to be consoles, not to support gaming per say.

And no amount of Software upgrades will make consoles any better than they are. Hardware is what counts.

It's just the same as Drivers for Graphic cards, those get updated all the time too. Consoles do not get any "Upgrades" in the course of their lifespan.

 

And a decent gaming PC is about 800 plus 200 yearly to keep up to date.

You make that up easily by using Steam or any other PC exclusive distribution platform with lower prices on games.

PC is just better. Fact.

 

That does not make consoles bad, just the worse option to pick.

And somehow consoles have become the maximum on technical standards which IS bad. Consoles should be the ones that adapt and are ported to.

 

 

I have but one question. Does the PC have quality JRPGs? Those make up the majority of what I play. Also, I doubt I can get 800 dollars, and pay 200 yearly... Edited October 22, 2012 by Berry Pie

[Ron Jeremy 2,032]

Here's the thing about the cost of a gaming computer vs. the cost of a console.

 

You can tailor the computer to your specific needs. A gaming system, you can't. A computer that's a few years old is capable of running today's games, if it was a good computer to begin with. Sure, you have to turn graphics down, but they still run. With consoles, a new console comes out and you have to buy new games, or if it's just a different improved model, new hardware. "Oh, my DS is obsolete! Now I've got to get a DSi! Oh, now they've got bigger screens, but I can't just get a new screen, I gotta go buy a DSi XL! Oh, now they have 3D! But I can't just get a monitor and graphics card capable of displaying 3D, I've got to buy a 3DS! Oh, now they can have bigger screens! But I can't just replace it with a bigger screen, I have to buy a 3DS XL!" What I'm saying is, you can't just upgrade the specific part, you have to replace the whole thing.

 

And along the way, you have to buy accessories like cases, etc. for all these new models, because you can't just upgrade your system, even if it's just a minor difference making it "obsolete".

 

Consoles are kinda a thing of the past IMO. Consoles were good back in the day when computers weren't in pretty much every household, but now that owning a PC is widespread, consoles are pretty much just DRMs that take up shelf space.

Edited October 22, 2012 by KKR

[Jinx 2,292]

I gave up on painting for today, still finished about 80% of what I wanted to do. It's a major pain to paint an arched celing with multiple boards, all those cracks.

[Typhoid Libby 1,265]

I have but one question. Does the PC have quality JRPGs? Those make up the majority of what I play. Also, I doubt I can get 800 dollars, and pay 200 yearly...

 

You should really move to Japan if that's the case, JRPG's on consoles only is a really western thing.

US gets like what, 30% of the JRPGs that are actually made, or something along those lines.

You can easily Emulate JRPGs on any sub-par computer anyhoo.

Current console gen IS what, 6 years old now?

And they were not up to scratch anyway compared to gaming PC's of that time.

 

You can easily pay up to 300+ dollars per year on the pricing differences alone if you get a game per month.

 

But it's not about individual choices, if Console is the thing for you, it's the thing for you.

PC is just better in the grand scheme of things.

[Bari 7,023]

Now, on an unrelated note, what would someone do to get motivated?

[NewCalamity 3,454]

PC is just better in the grand scheme of things.

 

I agree completely with your points. I, in fact only fully converted into PC gaming two years ago, everything is so much better, my goodness.

 

For the longest time, I'd be paying ~$65.00 for endless sequels of games ad buying their overpriced "expansions", on a machine (the Xbox 360) that began running slowly, having an awful array of errors, and generally being a pain in my ass.

 

With the PC, combined with Steam, everything I need is all right here. It's wonderful. All you really need is a rudimentary understanding of computers and you can get yourself a nice PC and comprehend how to up-keep it.

 

A huge attraction for console gamers is the fact that you just plug the thing in and it works. Easy, simple, no need to understand technology.

[FizzyImp 1,838]

Gaming has become some sort of Corporate fuckfest towards underaged consumers instead being about making good games.

 

Look at Call of Duty.

It's rated M and the main fangroup is under 18.

No notable progress in the genre for five games now.

Most successful series of console gaming ever and TF2 is more involved, fun, and complex than CoD will be.

 

It's not the company's fault that a parent will buy whatever their 5 year old desires. :/

Comparing CoD to TF2 is like comparing a slab of cheese to a brick.

They're both incredibly painful to be hit in the face with, but they're two very different games in the FPS genre.

 

Consoles do not get any "Upgrades" in the course of their lifespan.

Then clearly you've ignored the fact that the Xbox 360 and the PS3 have been constantly upgrading their hardware in their newer consoles whilst steadily upgrading their customer's older, more crashy consoles from what they were in 2005/2007 to the current model.

 

And a decent gaming PC is about 800 plus 200 yearly to keep up to date.

You make that up easily by using Steam or any other PC exclusive distribution platform with lower prices on games.

PC is just better. Fact.

PC gaming hurts wallets. Fact. Edited October 22, 2012 by JayBee

[Ganaram Inukshuk 3,682]

How's about I tell you guys a little story?

 

My first computer (which was really my second) was a dinky little Compaq that had only 128 megabytes of RAM, and the first real game I played on it was Runescape. It lagged a lot.

 

That began my thirst for more power. Two laptops later, and I'm still thirsty as hell.

 

What am I getting at? Laptops are just as worse for gaming.

[Jinx 2,292]

Now, on an unrelated note, what would someone do to get motivated?

If you really want to reach a goal, then go for it. You need to motivate yourself by any means necessary. Weigh the positives and negatives from achieving the goal, if that doesn't motivate you then you were never meant to achieve it.

[FizzyImp 1,838]

How's about I tell you guys a little story?

 

My first computer (which was really my second) was a dinky little Compaq that had only 128 megabytes of RAM, and the first real game I played on it was Runescape. It lagged a lot.

 

That began my thirst for more power. Two laptops later, and I'm still thirsty as hell.

 

What am I getting at? Laptops are just as worse for gaming.

 

My old laptop can't even run the 3D bouncy cube screensaver.

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Anyway, I think it's time for a new discussion. I'm getting tired of this talk about gaming platforms.

[Moon Rat 4,772]

I would LOVE to get into PC gaming except I've held a controller for so long that I'm not so sure I can get into it so easily...

Unless PCs have gaming controllers of their own, in which case, sign me up

 

 

 

However, my laptop isn't even capable of running the internet without going to ham so I guess I'll just have to. Wait to get a new laptop

 

 

Which MAY end up being the day Hell freezes over :/

 

Say, what type of games do PCs have

 

All I've seen are just the World of Warcraft/TF2 type games

Which I am not really that into anyway

 

 

Are there any others besides those that I should know of?

[FizzyImp 1,838]

I would LOVE to get into PC gaming except I've held a controller for so long that I'm not so sure I can get into it so easily...

Unless PCs have gaming controllers of their own, in which case, sign me up

 

However, my laptop isn't even capable of running the internet without going to ham so I guess I'll just have to. Wait to get a new laptop

 

Which MAY end up being the day Hell freezes over :/

 

1: There's the Xbox 360 controller for Windows. I haven't used one though, so I don't know how compatible it is with everything.

2: If you've got a decent internet connection, check out OnLive. It doesn't need users to have a high end computer because it's cloud gaming, and it woks surprisingly well.

[Typhoid Libby 1,265]

It's not the company's fault that a parent will buy whatever their 5 year old desires. :/

Comparing CoD to TF2 is like comparing a slab of cheese to a brick.

They're both incredibly painful to be hit in the face with, but they're two very different games in the same FPS genre.

 

It kinda is, Companies are responsible for their product.

 

FPS is, and can only, be compared to other FPS.

 

Other is the example of Consoles best to offer, other is PC's comparison that I randomly drew out of the stack.

TF2 is old.

For an more "honest" comparison, we should Take Planetside 2 Versus Call of Duty Black Ops 2.

Both are FPS and represent the best that can be done on their comperative platforms released at the same time.

 

Other has MMO ahead of it's FPS.

I think I will rest the case here.

 

Then clearly you've ignored the fact that the Xbox 360 and the PS3 have been constantly upgrading their hardware in their newer consoles whilst steadily upgrading their customer's older, more crashy consoles from what they were in 2005/2007 to the current model.

 

There has been only one Hardware update and that was mostly cosmetic with an increased HDD capacity.

I should know, I bought both of those 360's and have fixed them both out of RRoD.

 

360 has not changed it's innards since launch other than to change bits and bobs around to make for more sleeker appearance.

So please. Don't.

 

PC gaming hurts wallets. Fact.

 

*cough*humbleindiebundle*cough*

 

A huge attraction for console gamers is the fact that you just plug the thing in and it works. Easy, simple, no need to understand technology.

 

I still keep my 360 around just for second hand games and the occasional new releases like Dark Souls.

It has it's merits.

They are just not that many to support.

 

I would LOVE to get into PC gaming except I've held a controller for so long that I'm not so sure I can get into it so easily...

Unless PCs have gaming controllers of their own, in which case, sign me up

 

360 pad is just an USB device. You are shooting yourself into the leg for not using a mouse tho.

 

All I've seen are just the World of Warcraft/TF2 type games

Which I am not really that into anyway

 

Are there any others besides those that I should know of?

 

PC is the Mecca of gaming, PC has ALL the games.

ALL OF THEM.

[Ganaram Inukshuk 3,682]

My old laptop can't even run the 3D bouncy cube screensaver.

 

3D bouncy cube screensaver?!! Are you using Windows XP or something?!!

 

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At least a well-built desktop is infinitely upgradeable, even on a low budget.

 

Personal thing here: I'm planning on stepping up from my dinky potato of a computer (4GB ram, 2GHz dual-core processor) to what should hopefully be a monster (16GB ram, 4+GHz quad-core processor; Yes, it's AMD for the simple reason of budget; Intel has served me well throughout the years, but I have a budget restriction). Yeah, my folks are gonna repay me all the money they ever borrowed from me, so it's no biggie.

Edited October 22, 2012 by Ganaram Inukshuk

[spas-ticShotty 3,584]

Video game chat? I may be in for it......

 

Also, less than 20 pages 'till page 2,000. It took several months to hit 1,000, and it took a LOT less to get to 2,000 .

[Moon Rat 4,772]

 

1: There's the Xbox 360 controller for Windows. I haven't used one though, so I don't know how compatible it is with everything.

2: If you've got a decent internet connection, check out OnLive. It doesn't need users to have a high end computer because it's cloud gaming, and it woks surprisingly well.

 

Hmm,

I might give the second one a shot though like I said

My laptop can't seem to run the internet without occasionally crashing :/