heavens-champion 1,907 January 4, 2019 Share January 4, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Black Sabbath said: Yes, but again she's a child. And as previously mentioned, most justice systems in the real world tends to treat kids who have committed crimes differently from adults who have done the same for a reason. So it's a bit annoying that the show is implying that a child is more responsible for their actions than adults are if the latter says they're sorry. The problem is that Jim Miller thought it would be funny, because he has a weird sense of humor. Then again, we're taking cartoons seriously, anyway. 6 hours ago, Black Sabbath said: You could easily make the argument that she never truly grasped what friendship means or some bullshit. The show is about friendship, what did you expect? 6 hours ago, gingerninja666 said: Also, I feel like people who insist that cozy is "just a child" are playing right into her strengths. This child almost brought Equestria to it's knees and is completely undeterred and unrepentant about anything she's done. People think she can't be dangerous, when she IS. Why are you praising this out-of-place villain? Watch The Omen if this is your kind of villain. Edited January 4, 2019 by heavens-champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerninja666 487 January 4, 2019 Share January 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, heavens-champion said: Why are you praising this out-of-place villain? Watch The Omen if this is your kind of villain. Don't tell me what I can and can't enjoy. I enjoyed the hell out of cozy and thought she was the best part of School Raze. I've seen the Omen and I wasn't a big fan of it. If you don't like her, that's fine. But don't incredulously get in my face about liking her. To me she made sense for what the season was building. She's a pony villain to counter Neighsay's racism, and she's a dark product of Twilight's school. Embodying the lessons Twilight sought to teach and twisting them for dark ends. The ultimate counterpoint to the very philosophy of the show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavens-champion 1,907 January 4, 2019 Share January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, gingerninja666 said: Don't tell me what I can and can't enjoy. I enjoyed the hell out of cozy and thought she was the best part of School Raze. I've seen the Omen and I wasn't a big fan of it. If you don't like her, that's fine. But don't incredulously get in my face about liking her. To me she made sense for what the season was building. She's a pony villain to counter Neighsay's racism, and she's a dark product of Twilight's school. Embodying the lessons Twilight sought to teach and twisting them for dark ends. The ultimate counterpoint to the very philosophy of the show. Sorry. I was annoyed. She just doesn't make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Piranha 29,504 January 4, 2019 Share January 4, 2019 9 hours ago, heavens-champion said: You're just saying that because of the movie and the Changeling invasion of 2012. Not that simple. As I’ve written before, the way the issue felt too one sided, and felt like a case of Protagonist-Centered Morality. I’ve felt the conflict would have felt more satisfying had the writting acknowledged Neighsay’s side while still ultimately make him lose the argument, specially considering that three, four if you consider supplementary material, of the Young 6’s non-pony species have an history of aggression against Equestria (Silverstream gets a pass, as Queen Novo was justified on her actions), instead of making him the too unsimpatetic douche he was presented as (then again, I guess they were grooming him as red herring from the start ) 1 Sig by Discords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarston1 5,965 January 4, 2019 Share January 4, 2019 (edited) Rollercoaster of Friendship is the only good Rarijack episode Limestone Pie>Marble Pie I don't mind the Friendship School plot, but I do feel that it, especially the student 6 needed to be focused on more. While reforming villains and antagonists fits with the show's themes and messages, I really think FiM is well suited for doing so. Given how rushed the vast majority of them end up being, the show just isn't serialized to do any of them much justice. Edited January 4, 2019 by cmarston1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrond 3,272 January 4, 2019 Share January 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Steve Piranha said: Not that simple. As I’ve written before, the way the issue felt too one sided, and felt like a case of Protagonist-Centered Morality. I’ve felt the conflict would have felt more satisfying had the writting acknowledged Neighsay’s side while still ultimately make him lose the argument, specially considering that three, four if you consider supplementary material, of the Young 6’s non-pony species have an history of aggression against Equestria (Silverstream gets a pass, as Queen Novo was justified on her actions), instead of making him the too unsimpatetic douche he was presented as (then again, I guess they were grooming him as red herring from the start ) I think his symbolic meaning is, if somewhat simplistic, at least a bit amusing, and I actually tend to think the show isn't respectful enough to non-pony cultures. If we're to take them at all seriously, then I think they would deserve to be seen as something more than stereotypes or monoliths. Just because some changelings or dragons were hostile to ponies, it doesn't mean all or even the majority of them are. Consider the changelings, who were pretty enthusiastic about being friendly once they learned they didn't need to prey on ponies to survive anymore. People deserve to be seen as people, and besides, Neighsay isn't a politician or diplomat. He's more symbol than character, sure - but I at least think he makes sense as a symbol. 8 hours ago, heavens-champion said: Why are you praising this out-of-place villain? Watch The Omen if this is your kind of villain. I think you're taking this show's setting way too seriously. We've seen children get up to all sorts of stuff beyond what we might expect of real-world children. I think the problem with Cozy Glow isn't that she exists at all, but that the show takes her so seriously and gives her so much gravitas. She'd be the perfect villain for a more humorous finale, and I really do think that would make for better stories than straight-faced suspense the show usually goes for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavens-champion 1,907 January 5, 2019 Share January 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, AlexanderThrond said: I think you're taking this show's setting way too seriously. We've seen children get up to all sorts of stuff beyond what we might expect of real-world children. I think the problem with Cozy Glow isn't that she exists at all, but that the show takes her so seriously and gives her so much gravitas. She'd be the perfect villain for a more humorous finale, and I really do think that would make for better stories than straight-faced suspense the show usually goes for. Maybe. But yes, she would be more appropriate for a more humorous finale, unless there's something deeper about her character that the writers are saving for the next season. P.S. When I wrote "Why are you praising this out-of-place character", I was very annoyed because I had to go to a dental appointment today. Edited January 5, 2019 by heavens-champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerninja666 487 January 5, 2019 Share January 5, 2019 I don't like judging entire seasons of this show. Or rather, I don't like dwelling on it. Because I feel doing that takes away from individual episodes and what they offer. This show in particular is so episodic that I feel you can safely just revisit specific episodes that you liked and ignore those you do not. Doing that has basically left me not hating ANY season of the show, because all I watch again are the episodes I think are good. Like, Season 6. I dont think about 28 Pranks Later or Cart Before the Ponies or Spice up your life, because all I watch are No Second Prances or A Hearthswarming Tail or Saddle Row or other episodes that I liked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwave 28,558 January 5, 2019 Share January 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, gingerninja666 said: I don't like judging entire seasons of this show. Or rather, I don't like dwelling on it. Because I feel doing that takes away from individual episodes and what they offer. This show in particular is so episodic that I feel you can safely just revisit specific episodes that you liked and ignore those you do not. Doing that has basically left me not hating ANY season of the show, because all I watch again are the episodes I think are good. Like, Season 6. I dont think about 28 Pranks Later or Cart Before the Ponies or Spice up your life, because all I watch are No Second Prances or A Hearthswarming Tail or Saddle Row or other episodes that I liked. I wish I had your optimism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerninja666 487 January 5, 2019 Share January 5, 2019 I bizzarely did not hate Applejack's day off. I actually thought season 6 was a great season for Spoiled Milk, between her appearance in that episode and Where the Apple Lies. I wish we could see more of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imawesome 451 January 5, 2019 Share January 5, 2019 On 10/20/2018 at 6:49 AM, RulesofRarity said: The CMC'S cutie mark designs suck, they are way too small and don't make the colors of their body. I wish they got them individually. In Scootaloo's case she should've got her cutie mark in "Flight to the Finish". On 10/20/2018 at 6:49 AM, RulesofRarity said: I don't find the Student Six very interesting at all so I hope they have a diminished role in Season 9. Horse Play sucks and I'm convinced now that they shouldn't bother developing the Princesses at this point. @RulesofRarityI agree with all that you said except these. I like the Crusader's cutie mark designs and I think they capture what the Crusader's stand for: unified friendship even when they are all so diverse in talent and appearance. The Student 6 aren't interesting to me as CHARACTERS, but then again neither were the Pillars. I see them as interesting because since Spoiler the Season 8 finale, it basically show that they are the new Elements of Harmony, and I'm excited to see that development. I don't see how Horse Play sucks, but it was kind of stupid, if not sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAnimationFanatic 3,608 January 5, 2019 Share January 5, 2019 Here's my unpopular opinion: People tend to view early seasons with rose-tinted glasses and the newer seasons are superior overall in many aspects. 1 "Work Hard! In the end, passion and hard work beats out natural talent." - Pete Docter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Them's Seeing Ponies 282 January 5, 2019 Share January 5, 2019 Judging from the poll on the 'earlier vs. later seasons' poll, that actually isn't that unpopular an opinion, particularly considering this board's reception to season 5 and 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAnimationFanatic 3,608 January 5, 2019 Share January 5, 2019 Just now, Them's Seeing Ponies said: Judging from the poll on the 'earlier vs. later seasons' poll, that actually isn't that unpopular an opinion, particularly considering this board's reception to season 5 and 7. I mean, you're not wrong. Still, I feel like I'm the only one who feels that the show has been consistently good throughout. "Work Hard! In the end, passion and hard work beats out natural talent." - Pete Docter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Piranha 29,504 January 6, 2019 Share January 6, 2019 On 1/4/2019 at 1:36 AM, gingerninja666 said: Morbucks was a spoiled brat who got by via her vast wealth. Everyone around her knew that she was a brat, they were just too afraid of her money to stand up to her. Cozy was an ambitious schemer who honestly made people think that she was a sweet little girl. Not to mention Princess was a lover in playing the victim and manipulating her dad with tantrums. Besides, her goals are pretty petty. Cozy with her mind alone makes her a walking weapon leagues beyond Princess, as she almost won starting with nothing Sig by Discords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavens-champion 1,907 January 9, 2019 Share January 9, 2019 (edited) On 1/4/2019 at 4:35 PM, AlexanderThrond said: We've seen children get up to all sorts of stuff beyond what we might expect of real-world children. I believe in talking foals driving parade floats and other stuff. What I don't believe in is a talking foal draining all of a kingdom's magic and sending it to another dimension as part of a plan to take over said kingdom (besides, she got advice from Tirek). Edited January 9, 2019 by heavens-champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey 5,721 January 10, 2019 Share January 10, 2019 I don't like Twilight all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RulesofRarity 493 January 10, 2019 Share January 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Odyssey said: I don't like Twilight all that much. Neither do I since Season 6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoFoalix 25,063 January 11, 2019 Share January 11, 2019 The school of friendship was an awful idea. Adding Starlight Glimmer as a mane character wasn't the best idea. I think she should at least be secondary. Season 3 is the worst season imo Pinkie's character has degraded as the show has gone on. She's become a lot more annoying to have on the screen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMaguz 1,023 January 11, 2019 Share January 11, 2019 10 hours ago, TwilySparky said: Pinkie's character has degraded as the show has gone on. She's become a lot more annoying to have on the screen. I found her annoying from the start, and for me she's still as annoying and as cheerful as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparklefan1234 189,166 January 11, 2019 Share January 11, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, TwilySparky said: The school of friendship was an awful idea. Adding Starlight Glimmer as a mane character wasn't the best idea. I think she should at least be secondary. Pinkie's character has degraded as the show has gone on. She's become a lot more annoying to have on the screen. I agree with all of these. I don't think how dragons & Changelings live their lives should matter to the ponies at all. I like Spike more in his Equestria Girls dog form. Edited January 11, 2019 by Sparklefan1234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavens-champion 1,907 January 29, 2019 Share January 29, 2019 (edited) On 1/4/2019 at 4:35 PM, AlexanderThrond said: We've seen children get up to all sorts of stuff beyond what we might expect of real-world children. I believe in talking foals driving parade floats and other stuff. What I don't believe in is a talking foal draining all of a kingdom's magic and sending it to another dimension. p.s. I wanted to delete this and not reply, but apparently, I have to reply if I want to create a new post. Edited January 29, 2019 by heavens-champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulBron 173 January 29, 2019 Share January 29, 2019 - I hate School of Friendship (Burn that school) - I hate the youg 6 ( It's not "My Little Pony" anymore, now is "My Little Creature") - I hate the mane 6 working as teachers (what the heck is happening with that show) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavens-champion 1,907 January 29, 2019 Share January 29, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 6:12 AM, Califorum said: Starlight Glimmer is pure garbage aswell as the mane 6, I would like to see the mane 6 and Starlight Killed off, that would be entertaining to me honestly. I'd like to see them lose and for Tirek, Sombra or Chrysalis to rule Equestria and the show to focus on them ruling equestria. lol Why? You don't even like the show and stated that you wouldn't be bothered by it ending. In fact, I'm wondering why you joined a forum based on something you don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Shadow 8,386 January 29, 2019 Share January 29, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 4:12 AM, Califorum said: Starlight Glimmer is pure garbage aswell as the mane 6, I would like to see the mane 6 and Starlight Killed off, that would be entertaining to me honestly. I'd like to see them lose and for Tirek, Sombra or Chrysalis to rule Equestria and the show to focus on them ruling equestria. lol how are you not on the show's writing staff In lieu of this, I honestly think a good idea for the series finale that many would disagree with and I doubt would actually happen, especially if Generation 5 is going to be a sequel to FiM rather than taking place in a world of its own, would be for Twilight Sparkle to die. It's nothing against Twilight, just please hear me out. Twilight could learn that part of her destiny is passing the torch onto Starlight as she comes to the decision to give her life (or "give her life" if they were to decide her actually dying were to be too grim) to save Equestria, the scene of her fakeout death in the movie could be the perfect foreshadowing, and best of all, it would be the perfect way to troll the fans who hated alicorn Twilight and stopped watching the show because they thought she would outlive her friends. Come on, don't look at me like it's totally impossible, it could drive Twilight toy sales through the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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