Pinkie Pie in Filly Vanilli

[Guest90210 3,568]

ABSURD THEORY TIME!

 

Pinkie Pie was incorrectly zapped by Twilight and died in Too Many Pinkie Pies. This explains why her behavior has been strange in season 4.

[Fast_Riff 16]

But the characters in the those shows have always been mean in a consistent fashion.

Pinkie has no desire to be mean and has, in the past, been able to restrain herself with very little pushing from others. But she just seemed to lose ALL of her restraint in this episode for no real reason than for the writers to get Fluttershy more worked up over her fears.

 

Not even the visible quaking and tears from Fluttershy RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER got her to snap out of it. I think it would have worked better if she had started to go a little wacky, then noticed how Fluttershy was taking it, and then clumsily and awkwardly try to reword things to make up for her lapse in judgement.

I totally agree with you, I also think this would be more like her. Normally she realises very quickly when she does something wrong. (Except for Luna eclipsed, but that is a totally different story.)

I think the part when she was pushing on and seeing that fluttershy was in tears, that was the point where she got OOC.

[VenomTrixie 57]

I fully support an episode were Pinkie learns to watch what she says around certain people and to be more careful that some things can hurt people. It would also make for a good moral episode that being you need to realize that what you say around people is important. Course there have been times were the other 5 were rude or uncaring. So maybe you go at it as a group lesson.

Edited February 18, 2014 by VenomTrixie

[Nature's Spell 526]

So Amy Keating Rogers Tweeted about Pinkie.

 

@KeatingRogers: Pinkie is a multi-faceted character. She's not perfect. Nopony is. She's passionate, but can be oblivious she's taken things too far.

[Singe 2,111]

So Amy Keating Rogers Tweeted about Pinkie.

 

@KeatingRogers: Pinkie is a multi-faceted character. She's not perfect. Nopony is. She's passionate, but can be oblivious she's taken things too far.

 

The same pony who stalks, harasses, burglary (breaking into others' places), a little stealing, and some vandalism. lol

 

I agree Pinkie Pie is very passionate and oblivious.

Edited February 18, 2014 by Singe

[Flutter's lover <3 8,205]

This is partially why Pinkie Pie is near the bottom of my  mane 6 fave list.

 

Even though she didn't mean to be mean, she was still a bit of a jerk to Fluttershy....She made Fluttershy cry twice during the episode. She was  a bit obnoxious more than anything in this episode.

 

Sure you an go back on the Ironwill episode of Fluttershy making Pinkie and Rarity cry, but that wasn't Fluttershy...she wasn't herself. This was Pinkie just being generally obnoxious and a bit of a jerk.

[SharpWit 2,648]

If anything, she was being overly honest. and in a way that reflects this episode with fluttershy needing to become honest with herself. It's similar to pinkie's role in "It's About Time" where twilight was overly worried, spike wasn't worried enough. Pinkie, as insane as she is, was worried reasonably. In "Filly Vanilli" she plays as the far right example, where being overly honest is negative once it starts impeding on other ponies feelings. 

[Nature's Spell 526]

Amy is really getting hammered over this Pinkie stuff on Twitter. People need to take a step back if they want the show staff and actors to keep engaging with us. Final Draft from Everfree made the point in the Elements of Brony recently that a lot of the crap from fans could turn off the tap if Bronies aren't careful.

[Thrashy 2,800]

What critics fail to realize (or do realize, but fail to acknowledge) is that there was no malice in Pinkie's behavior. Was it insensitive? Perhaps, but unintentionally so. She's well-meaning, and always has been, but oftentimes is just too airheaded to realize what effect her words may have on others. Remember when she pissed off Cranky, just by trying to be his friend? No ill will behind that, either. It's just her character; her understanding of those around her is just as shaky as others' understanding of her.

 

Nothing substantial enough to label her as being a willfully insensitive character by nature, fellas. Gotta get over it.

Edited February 18, 2014 by Thrashy

[Wild Star 141]

i felt it added depth to her character, which i liked, (personally fluttershy annoys me so i wasn't upset about flutters reaction.) but i still think it was a little weird just out of the blue. maybe the writer doesnt like pinkie?

 

 

 

 

 

or maybe pinkie is feeling crappy, missing a certain cheese?

my headcanon just went off.

i felt it added depth to her character, which i liked, (personally fluttershy annoys me so i wasn't upset about flutters reaction.) but i still think it was a little weird just out of the blue. maybe the writer doesn't like pinkie?

 

 

 

 

 

or maybe pinkie is feeling crappy, missing a certain cheese?

my headcanon just went off.

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

I think the thing is is that Pinkie was written to be a jerk. If anything, out of all the mane six she would be the least likely to be a jerk, her or Fluttershy (looks at Putting your Hoof Down) oh right. Thought I don't think Pinkie meant to make Fluttershy like that she just said the wrong things, that actually happens to me sometimes.

[Singe 2,111]

What critics fail to realize (or do realize, but fail to acknowledge) is that there was no malice in Pinkie's behavior. Was it insensitive? Perhaps, but unintentionally so. She's well-meaning, and always has been, but oftentimes is just too airheaded to realize what effect her words may have on others. Remember when she pissed off Cranky, just by trying to be his friend? No ill will behind that, either. It's just her character; her understanding of those around her is just as shaky as others' understanding of her.

 

Nothing substantial enough to label her as being a willfully insensitive character by nature, fellas. Gotta get over it.

 

Pinkie Pie as a reckless aspect. There comes a point when certain characters and certain fans can no longer tolerate the recklessness of those kinds of characters. No matter how it's candy coated with airhead, innocent, passionate, or oblivious; as long some one gets hurt physically and/or mentally it's still reckless underneath.

Edited February 19, 2014 by Singe

[Moost 164]

She climbed a freaking wall. That's 5* entertainment for me.

[PartyWithPinkie 189]

Shouldn't we all expect this behavior from Pinkie by now?

 

While I admit she did some insensitive things, she never would purposely try to make anypony feel bad, especially not Fluttershy. As we've seen her defend Fluttershy in the past from characters like Gilda.

I think the only reason the writers had her acting that way was for comic relief.

 

I wish they would stop that, because it only makes us back-track with Pinkies development as a character.

Pinkie can still be her wild, fun, silly self while also continuing to learn and grow.

 

That's just my 2 cents.....

Edited February 19, 2014 by PartyWithPinkie

[Thrashy 2,800]

Pinkie Pie is reckless. There comes a point when characters and fans can no longer tolerate the recklessness of those kinds of characters. No matter how it's candy coated with airhead, innocent, passionate, or oblivious; as long some one gets hurt physically and/or mentally it's still reckless.

 

I like how you say "the fans", as if this is something we are all to agree with as a collective. You are free to dislike her for any reason you please, but I implore you not to shove your own reasoning down others' throats as if we're all supposed to agree with it. Thanks.

[~Silver Essence~ 2,625]

Despite her new characterization, I still think that she was being uncalled for.

 

And it's especially noticable when she says it to fluttershy, the most innocent and sensitive one of the group.

[Singe 2,111]

The negative aspect of Pinkie Pie was playing second to Fluttershy's problem. Maybe it's time FIM tried to solve two problems in one episode.

 

It was uncalled for of Pinkie Pie to make Fluttershy cry. What Pinkie Pie was doing is like a complete 180 of her cutie mark and element.

Edited February 19, 2014 by Singe

[Silver Letter 1,832]

I like Pinkie Pie. I really do but if her behavior in Filly Vanilli is where they want Pinkie Pie to stay indefinitely then the writers should write her out of the mane six. The actions she was responsible for are typical for an antagonist. I would rather her not be in the show at all.

[PartyWithPinkie 189]

Well, from the way the story is heading now, each of the mane six are here to stay.

I really don't see how they could write out any one character and the show still be the same.

If they removed any of the mane six, I probably wouldn't watch much after that.

 

But I still stand by what I said, I think the writers had Pinkie acting that way for comic relief.

I really can't see Pinkie intentionally trying to make anyone feel bad, you gotta remember she's still learning.

A Friend in Deed was a huge leap forward for her character and so was Pinkie Pride.

 

They need to stick with how they had her in those episodes. It seems like after they have an amazing episode for her, they do a complete 180 and oh here's crazy, insensitive Pinkie again!

I wish they would stop back-tracking with her development. It's gonna start to piss me off.

[flutterfan12 20]

Pinkie hasn't been acting like her former self, this season and I feel like they are turning into a shadow of her fromer self. She was great in Pinkie Pride and that's about it but here, she just came across as a jerk.  And I'm sorry but wasn't it Pinkie, who knew that pranking Fluttershy was a bad idea, because of how sensitve Flutters is back in season 1.  I get that Pinkie doesn't have a fitler but either one of her friends should've said something to her that she was going to far, like Twilight did regarding Cranky Doodle Donkey in A Friend In Deed, and Pinkie could've apologized because her actions were absolutely horrible.  Pinkie should've known better then to do what she did in this episode. And it's a shame that Pinkie was the sore spot in this episode because otherwise, it was a good episode.

[Carolina 212]

Yeah, I was really disapointed with Pinkie's behavior in this episode. It was just shockingly incensitive. Maybe the Pinkie we see now is actually one of the clones from Too Many Pinkie Pies? (Nah, that's a joke, but still...At least that would explain her appalling behavior)

[Wind Chaser 4,768]

Pinkie Pie just got slammed with the Jerkass Ball in this episode, and that's a total irony given what the same writer did with her just two weeks ago. Insensitivity was never really intended to be a prominent character trait of hers, and in fact she refuses to prank Fluttershy in Griffon the Brush Off for that reason. So we are talking about a trait that was disproven very early in the series.

 

However, this is not new. She has been on the receiving end of this particular Jerkass Ball multiple times before. It was probably more prominent in Luna Eclipsed (from MA Larson) than this episode and it was definitely front and center in A Friend in Deed (also from Amy Keating Rogers).

Edited February 20, 2014 by pegasusexpress2010

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She was rather annoying, I do hope the writers will tone her down if she appears next episode.

[pinkieshyrose 58]

Pinkie is not mean... to me... one day of saying the wrong things isn't mean. 

 

 

I liked this episode... but I find the reviews sad(Though this doesn't add much im getting emotinal over ponys and im litterally tearing up.) as someone who is very much like both Pinkie and Fluttershy I understood both points...  though everyone has there opinion I don't think Pinkie was trying to be insensitive in any of the episode... if you think about there viewpoints. Pinkie said the wrong things but I think she was only being insensitive once in the episode. I also find it very werid when others say Pinkies talent is trying to make  other smile and be happy so shouldn't she be less insensitive... when was that her talent? Her talent was laughter yes she loves smiling but its related to making other laugh and letting them enjoy themselves... her talent is not  charm for a reason.

 

I relate with that as-well though I love making other smile laugh e.c.t I do not say the right things...I say what I feel. I say what I think is right. I am not a mind reader... most of the time. Maybe on Fridays...  or Saturdays...or days that I am not sleepy...

I am not on group hive mode. I don't know how to say the right thing for you half the time.. I am not a people pleaser. I might hurt your feelings by mistake and all I can say is sorry because I never want that to happen but it does...

 

She wasn't even out of character to me ... If we could here a  character p.o.v you might understand whats going on in  her head.

 

 

First time: Shes trying to make it sound fun and then she gets carried away and notices Fluttershes scared expression and makes it silly... but she goes for gruesome humor and fails... the only time I think she went to far.

 

But Rarity hit her with a newspaper and treated her like a dog which even to Pinkie is kind of mean... I think that was payment enough!

 

Second: She was just observing innocently.

 

third: She was trying to be empathetic! She just had her tone too high and was too much of a storyteller...

and she even said that was Unbelievable... she wasn't describing what happened she was talking about her voice... she went a little to far but she was  just to high strung that was all think about how it would have sounded if she wasn't being high-strung and cartoonic? Which is her being PInkie Pie. When Fluttershy cries and she realizes look at her! 

Her eyes slowly go down shes confused... shes sad just for a moment... you can see it in her eyes. She doesn't even understand... because she thought she was saying the right things... This is Pinkie pie a sad look is like crying to her. 2 sad looks.

 

 

Twilght tried to interpret what she meant.

 

 

The whole time  in the episode she looks shocked... she is trying to apologize buts saying it all wrong... 

 

fourth: She is supposed to sound like a dude... it wasn't like she wasn't supposed to have... she even said no offense and she was trying to just make her laugh. But Flutters was too sad to be logical at that point. 

Then shes like a great sounding dude... because she recognized her mistake and was just chattering...

 

fifth: She didn't recognize some of her mistake's because she though she didn't make them. She is still processing.

 

Oh and I am actually serious about the mind reading thing partially it seems like I can read someones mind one day and the next I say everything wrong... 

Edited February 20, 2014 by pinkieshyrose

[Anadu Kune 668]

Im not sure why people make a big deal over something that has been an established character trait for a while now. Pinkie has shown in the past that whilst she isn't stupid she can be pretty oblivious to how others are feeling and sometimes the world around her. This has been shown multiple times in the series. Luna Eclipsed comes to mind first for me. Despite Luna's obvious emotional distress Pinkie fails to notice and continues screaming and inciting panic. Even when Luna has cancelled Nightmare Night and all the ponies of Ponyville were depressed and the children sobbing Pinkie continued merrily along. Then there is her behavior in Griffon The Brush off. Rainbow obviously doesn't want to hang out with Pinkie in the beginning, yet Pinkie doesn't notice at all. Pinkie was also oblivious to Gilda's obvious annoyance at her presence.  Also in the very pilot episode where an unspeakable legendary evil has captured Celestia and cast eternal night upon the land Pinkie plays a guessing game. Then there's the Discord arch, whilst the world has been turned upside-down and all the negative implications layed out Pinkie is still her happy self. Concerned over finding chocolate milk puddles and laughing whilst the villain monologues to them. Pinkie is oblivious sometimes. Pinkie sometimes confuses her cutiemark story with how equestria was made. Pinkie sometimes forgets her own freaking birthday.

Edited February 20, 2014 by Anadu Kune