The Clone Army (Star Wars) vs. UNSC Spartans (Halo)

[Dreadmallon 353]

Which army would win if they met and went to war?

[Twiliscael 3,960]

Very tough decision, actually. I chose Spartans because they are genetically augmented to b the best on the battlefield. Given crazy stamina, strength, size, and intelligence, i think they would overpower the clone troopers. A close fight, but the energy shielding would be a very large advantage to the Spartans. Halo alllll the way. But i do love Star Wars as well.

[MrJK 399]

I honestly think the spartans would dominate, under any circumstances. I mean, even if the Clones used walkers and suck, i still think spartans would dominate.

[DJ MUFF1N D3RP 322]

I go with the Spartans as well. If they are as smart, strong, and skilled as Master Chief, and have his lucky streak, the Clones stand no chance. All they had was numbers and good equipment.

[Sageflare 277]

As much as I love Star Wars I would have to go with the Spartans they just have all the right tools. First is the shields second would be the many armor effects like invisibility or dodge roll ( which really shouldn't be an armor effect) overshields etc.

[CapnKrunk 307]

Spartans are better trained,and they got better ranged weapons.Also Vehicles too

[Evilshy 5,090]

Clone Army outnumbers Spartans hardcore and wins. Also, they are physically augmented as well, not nearly as much as spartans, but sheer force of numbers would win out.

[Jokuc 8,174]

If the poll said "Which is your favorite?" I'd go with clones/storms but since it's not, I'll vote for Spartans

[Rudolphin 76]

Spartans no doubt the thing the clone troopers lack is intelligence I may be wrong, but cloned soldiers don't have the same intellect a normal person would have especially compared to a spartan. Spartans plus have been in a war like atmosphere since they were 5 years old, and have more of a need to win. Clones know their not real people and wouldn't put in all they have to fight or really understand what they are fighting for. *If that makes sense*. Spartans can use anything as their weapon and can run up to 50km if i remember clones wouldn't stand a chance even with all their firepower. UNSC also has superior firepower when it comes to space battles so. Hands down UNSC

 

Though it would be a tough match between the two due to the numbers fact, but Spartan's have a high success rate if you include S2,and S3's also.

[Gingerpotato 889]

Have you seen how pathetic the Clone armour is? Ewoks with bows and arrows and rocks can break through it.

Spartans have wider variety of weapons, greater armour and are more battle-hardened and trained...and yet they still can't swim.

[Onix-warmachine-brony 38]

Very tough decision, actually. I chose Spartans because they are genetically augmented to b the best on the battlefield. Given crazy stamina, strength, size, and intelligence, i think they would overpower the clone troopers. A close fight, but the energy shielding would be a very large advantage to the Spartans. Halo alllll the way. But i do love Star Wars as well.

 

Very tough decision, actually. I chose Spartans because they are genetically augmented to b the best on the battlefield. Given crazy stamina, strength, size, and intelligence, i think they would overpower the clone troopers. A close fight, but the energy shielding would be a very large advantage to the Spartans. Halo alllll the way. But i do love Star Wars as well.

 

I'm going to agree: ADashOfRainbow the spartans would win and halo all the way

if you assemble an army of spartans and clone and left them to go at it. the spartans would

Edited March 30, 2012 by Onix-warmachine-brony

[Evilshy 5,090]

Addressing rudolphin and gingerpotato:

 

First of all, clones have the intelligence of a human, because they ARE human. It was specifically stated in Attack of the Clones that they are superior to droids because they are human and can think like one. There are numerous instances in the expanded universe showing great tactical intelligence, which makes sense, seeing as they are all clones of Jango Fett, a Mandalorian, and one of the greatest bounty hunters in the galaxy.

Also, they spend their whole lives training, up until they are actually deployed. They also have augmentations, allowing them to learn faster, and just general physical increases, not as much as the Spartans, but they certainly surpass normal humans. 

 

Second, their armor. You are referring, of course, to the battle of endor. Those were storm troopers, who have different armor (as indicated by the helmets and general shape and whatnot) and are also NOT clones. The vast majority of the imperial army were enlisted or conscripted soldiers from the many imperial worlds. The clones remaining from the clone wars were the more "elite" troops, due to their enhanced bodies and minds and better/more training and experience. The clones had heavier armor than the imperial army, whose armor was designed more for surviving extreme conditions than for protection in battle. Clone armor is extremely hard to penetrate with projectile weapons, unless it's an armor piercing bullet, or a canon or something.

 

Sources: star wars wiki, various star wars books, the movies

 

 

 

Now, I'm not very familiar with the Haloverse, but IIRC there aren't a lot of Spartans. There are millions of clones. And though Spartans are hard to ki, they can be brought down fairly quickly by a lot of concentrated fire (judging by the games here; master chief can't stand around in direct fire for very long), so the clones would eventually overwhelm the Spartans.

 

This is all assuming that it's just soldiers vs soldiers, and neither side has back up and orbital cannons and warships and giant doomsday bombs and stuff.

Edited March 30, 2012 by Evilshy

[The Awesome One 1,315]

It would be like the 300 spartans all over again they maintain a stand for some time but then the clones just overwhelm them.

[Steamgamer27 170]

A tough choice. Like what everybody had said about Spartans being the more superior class of warrior I'm siding withe Clones. The Clone Army had a diverse range of unit class that suited them in any situation. ARC troopers for example were a elite variant of clone trooper. Although less numerous than the other clones, they were also among the most skilled and cunning soldiers.

[Rudolphin 76]

Addressing rudolphin and gingerpotato:

 

First of all, clones have the intelligence of a human, because they ARE human. It was specifically stated in Attack of the Clones that they are superior to droids because they are human and can think like one. There are numerous instances in the expanded universe showing great tactical intelligence, which makes sense, seeing as they are all clones of Jango Fett, a Mandalorian, and one of the greatest bounty hunters in the galaxy.

Also, they spend their whole lives training, up until they are actually deployed. They also have augmentations, allowing them to learn faster, and just general physical increases, not as much as the Spartans, but they certainly surpass normal humans.

 

Second, their armor. You are referring, of course, to the battle of endor. Those were storm troopers, who have different armor (as indicated by the helmets and general shape and whatnot) and are also NOT clones. The vast majority of the imperial army were enlisted or conscripted soldiers from the many imperial worlds. The clones remaining from the clone wars were the more "elite" troops, due to their enhanced bodies and minds and better/more training and experience. The clones had heavier armor than the imperial army, whose armor was designed more for surviving extreme conditions than for protection in battle. Clone armor is extremely hard to penetrate with projectile weapons, unless it's an armor piercing bullet, or a canon or something.

 

Sources: star wars wiki, various star wars books, the movies

 

 

 

Now, I'm not very familiar with the Haloverse, but IIRC there aren't a lot of Spartans. There are millions of clones. And though Spartans are hard to ki, they can be brought down fairly quickly by a lot of concentrated fire (judging by the games here; master chief can't stand around in direct fire for very long), so the clones would eventually overwhelm the Spartans.

 

This is all assuming that it's just soldiers vs soldiers, and neither side has back up and orbital cannons and warships and giant doomsday bombs and stuff.

 

This just got interesting, I don't disagree with you but don't agree I'll meet you half way.

 

Yes their are limited amount of Spartan 2, there is a large number of S3 though, and even though we only see 6 S3 in Reach, their are hundreds of S3's. Spartans have the technology to surpass the clones they have invisibility which will help greatly, armor lock, and much more. The weapons the UNSC has in its arsenal are all armor piercing rounds, they can not only rip through enemy shields but can also penetrate spartan armor. If they use covenant weaponry that will make lunch meat with the clone armor.

 

Like what "awesome" posted

"It'll be like 300"

 

Clone weaponry is large and bulky. Could lead to slowing down their troops.

[Retro*Derpy 3,191]

Despite Spartans being out numbered, to my knowledge they have a lot more battle experience, and better weapon technology. So I would go that Spartans would win the war, but with heavy casualties. A tough choice though.

[Dimitri Hammer 3,645]

Stormtroopers are freaking hilarious. They're in my opinion the worst fighting force in the universe. I still think they're funny though, can't aim and can't take a single bullet/laser. Spartans would kick their asses....if Ewoks could do it I'm sure super soldiers could...

[thor9356 540]

Man this is so weird. I was playing F:NV (Fallout: New Vegas) and this topic reminds me of the war between NCR and the Brotherhood of Steel and the arguements is pretty much the same here. The spartans (BoS) though they do have superior training and weapons are outnumbered by the clone army (NCR) and will most likely lose the war. Plus if you include some of the clone army's special forces like Clone Commando's (The equivalent to NCR Heavy Troops) and Arc Troopers (the equivalent to NCR Veteran Rangers). Then yeah the clone army is going to win but with heavy casualties. Damn I need to kick my fallout addiction otherwise I might end up like this.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Cv3UP_oy0

[Winged Squiger 11]

It all depends on the location too. A prime example could be Thermopolae, which would favor the Spartans, with their superior techniques and training and give a disadvantage to the sheer amount of numbers. If it's in a wide open field, I would give the slight advantage to the clones/storms, since they could exhibit a brilliant flanking strategy to defeat the spartans.

[MrL0LZ 866]

Even with only 75 spartan IIs and 900 Spartan IIIs, I think they would still win just due to how they are trained. They are trained, specifically the Spartans IIIs to take on armies. Also, Spartans are augmented with enhanced reflexes, at the age of 14, a spartan could kill 3 ODSTS with only his fists, as they can see time much slower than others. If from what I can tell about Clone troopers, they might have a hard time fighting something that can dodge extremely well, and is trained with the best training the UNSC can offer. Also, what about the biofoam? The biofoam can make a spartan automatically heal wounds with only needing medical attention after the battle. And also the neural implants in the Spartan IIIs Gamma Company makes the animal part of a humans brain more in control so he can survive more hits and not feel pain. Also, if 4 Spartans and 2 squads of Spartans can take an infinite army of sentinels that are impervious to bullets and a huge army of covenant, I think they can take some clone troopers. Also remember that from what I can tell, the clone troopers only use laser weaponry, considering the weapons you're getting attacked by in Halo games are plasma, i'm not so sure how effective lasers are, as Plasma < Lasers. Also,

[Broccoli 127]

I chose clonetroopers not because they are powerful, but they can possibly outnumber the spartans. There are just too many clones.

[Ion 279]

One thing that bugs me about match ups like this is that they never take into account the fact that it is very unlikely that you would see more than half a dozen Spartans in any one battle. I guess in covert style missions and raids (Like the kind you fight in most of the Halo games) Spartans will always have the advantage as against small numbers of foes they will dominate. I still doubt how well they, (or any super soldier from any franchise universe) would do in a conventional battle. Sure they'd kill a lot of clones, but they are in no way invincible, and as its not a video game the Spartans don't have regenerating health and will get worn down by numbers or lucky shots. On top of this there is also the unpredictability of war. Spartans may be physically stronger, faster etc, but that doesn't mean they automatically win in every situation. If they get trapped by superior numbers the chances are they'll die. Even in a pitched battle with equal forces on both sides (Marines for the Spartan forces) they are unlikely not to suffer any casualties, and any they do take will be a serious blow.

 

Still a fairer fight would be between Spartans and 40k Space Marines.

[MrL0LZ 866]

One thing that bugs me about match ups like this is that they never take into account the fact that it is very unlikely that you would see more than half a dozen Spartans in any one battle. I guess in covert style missions and raids (Like the kind you fight in most of the Halo games) Spartans will always have the advantage as against small numbers of foes they will dominate. I still doubt how well they, (or any super soldier from any franchise universe) would do in a conventional battle. Sure they'd kill a lot of clones, but they are in no way invincible, and as its not a video game the Spartans don't have regenerating health and will get worn down by numbers or lucky shots. On top of this there is also the unpredictability of war. Spartans may be physically stronger, faster etc, but that doesn't mean they automatically win in every situation. If they get trapped by superior numbers the chances are they'll die. Even in a pitched battle with equal forces on both sides (Marines for the Spartan forces) they are unlikely not to suffer any casualties, and any they do take will be a serious blow.

 

Still a fairer fight would be between Spartans and 40k Space Marines.

 

Actually, the spartans do have regenerating health, it's called Biofoam. It's built into the Mark VI armor. It instantly heals any wounds in a battle making it almost like he was healthy again, they only need medical attention afterwards.

[Ion 279]

Actually, the spartans do have regenerating health, it's called Biofoam. It's built into the Mark VI armor. It instantly heals any wounds in a battle making it almost like he was healthy again, they only need medical attention afterwards.

 

It works much like the Larraman Cells for Space Marines, as it is a kind of instant wound treatment, but keep in mind that it is only temporary. It lasts for a few hours maximum before breaking down and then if the wound was serious medical treatment is needed. It still can't save them from any heavy wounds or if they suffer many smaller wounds. It also doesn't technically "heal" them. It binds wounds and dulls pain and stops them from bleeding out mid battle, but it doesn't restore them. It just keeps them fighting longer.

[Evilshy 5,090]

Still a fairer fight would be between Spartans and 40k Space Marines.

 

Fairer? Space Marines would dominate Spartans, it would hardly even qualify as a fight. Warhammer 40k is all about over the top badassery. Space Marines are INSANELY powerful. Their average height is 7'6", and their just masses of muscle and bone. They have superhuman strength and endurance, can go without sleep for weeks, have an extra heart, lungs and enhanced blood to allow more efficient oxygen transfer around the body, as well as allowing them to survive after losing a heart, lung, or most of their blood. They have tons of enhanced organs implanted in them that give them things ranging from radiation and poison resistance to enhanced sense (all senses; night vision, incredible hearing, the ability to smell and even taste chemicals in the air), acidic saliva, super srong bones, including a ribcage completely fused together to form a bullet proof box that protects the organs, highly efficient enhanced metabolism, the list goes on and on. They have Power Armor made of extremely hard metals, which enhances their already incredible resilience, not to mention the fact that the armor is powered by artificial muscles, so their massive strength is increased even more, while also helping to support the armor, so the wearer barely feels its weight. It plugs directly into their spine, allowing them the same speed and agility of an unarmored man. The armor contains life support systems, nutrient storage to allow a Marine to go for weeks without eating or drinking, medical supplies that automatically apply first aid, and tactical gear such as targeting software and 360-degree threat recognition. The suits also have limited AI, allowing them to preform basic functions if the wearer is incapacitated.

The standard weapon of a Space Marine is called a Bolter. It fires a, and I quote:

.75 calibre, rocket-propelled, armour-piercing, mass reactive, explosive round.

They can take out vehicles with their standard rifles, and it one shots all but the most heavily armored infantry.

It has semi-auto and burst options. Some Marines have Heavy Bolters, which are bigger, more powerful versions of these.

As for melee weapons, they have chainsaw swords capable of cutting through steel in seconds. They even have edges that are a single molecule wide (held together by energy fields and extremely hard binding metals), making them literally as sharp as possible.

Some Marines use powerfists, which are big, powered gauntlets surrounded by energy fields that mess with matter on the molecular level, allowing them to basically punch through anything. Each Marine has over 2000 years of battle experience and combat knowledge implanted into their brains during training.

Plus, there are millions upon millions of Space Marines.

 

Oh, and did I mention I was just describing the basic Marines? These aren't even the elite guys. Those guys are even scarier.

But like I said, the whole 40k universe is all about super over-the-top sci-fi badassery. That's what's so great about it. My favorite are the Tyranids; they're like the Zerg, except on like 10 different steroids. And all those steroids are also on steroids

 

 

 

tl;dr - Space Marines would annihilate Spartans like ants. Not because Spartans suck, but because Space Marines are just insane.

Edited October 15, 2012 by Evilshy