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I don't think it's been dealt with anywhere in the canon, but I believe Lauren Faust said that her intention was the alicorns are not immortal. Born alicorns age a lot slower than other ponies, giving them a natural life span of many thousands of years. Though this doesn't rule out them dying from non-age-related causes, like falling off a cliff.

 

Twilight and Cadence are not born alicorns though. Twilight was originally a unicorn; Cadence a pegasus. Therefore they age at the normal pony speed.

Did we ever find out how Cadance became an alicorn or have i missed a trick here?

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Even gods can bleed, thus they can be killed.

 

And it's questionable that are even gods.

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hypothetically speaking, yes, i think alicorns can be killed, but the two questions is who can and who wants.

 

-Who Can: assuming the alicorns are protected with magic against disease and old age the other way to kill an alicorn is "brute force". Physical attacks or magic attacks can be effective, under certain condition. For killing an alicorn in a direct clash  you need to overpower them whit more magic or more physical ability. Alternately using a stratagem, like poison, curse, stealth assassin, or take advantage of a weak/distraction moment.

 

- who wants: I think nopony want to kill anypony, but this can be applied also at the other sentient races with few exceptions. Think about the major villains. Nightmare Moon could kill Celestia easily, but in the first two episodes she have only imprisioned her sister, maybe because still has affection for her sister. She could kill the mane 6 and stop any menace at her plans, but she doesn't, perhaps because he wants to oblige everypony at "live the ethernal night". For a similar reason Discord don't want to kill anypony (celestia in particular), he want to thrown equestria in ethernal chaos and rule over all. Queen Chrysalis feed herself and her changeling with the love energy, she don't take any advantage to kill the source of her power (includid alicorns). For Sumbra i have some doubt, i belive he gain power from other suffering, and in this case we can apply the same logic applied to queen Chrysalis. Last Tyrek, is a real enigma, he stole the pony powers, but not kill anyone, maybe because is simply uninterested.

 

Summarizing my logic, Alicorns can be killed, but the few who can don't want.

 

 

 

 

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The "Journal of the Two Sisters" indicated that they are not immortal, so I would say that they can be killed. It would be hard, but it's not impossible. I'm sure that baddies like Tirek, Chrysalis (supped-up version), or even Sombra could kill alicorns if given the chance.


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I don't think it's been dealt with anywhere in the canon, but I believe Lauren Faust said that her intention was the alicorns are not immortal. Born alicorns age a lot slower than other ponies, giving them a natural life span of many thousands of years. Though this doesn't rule out them dying from non-age-related causes, like falling off a cliff.

 

Twilight and Cadence are not born alicorns though. Twilight was originally a unicorn; Cadence a pegasus. Therefore they age at the normal pony speed.

I never knew Cadance wasn't always an alicorn. Where did you find that out?

 

Also, I don't think they are truly immortal, merely very long lived. I think Celestia and Luna will die one day, but it could be centuries in the future. I also think they can be killed. Consider that Twilight in 'Princess Twilight' thought that Celestia was dead. If alicorns could not die, she wouldn't be worried.

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I never knew Cadance wasn't always an alicorn. Where did you find that out?

 

It's in the book Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell. After becoming a princess, Twilight goes to Cadence for advice. It is explained that Cadence was born a pegasus but raised by earth ponies who found her in the woods. When she was a bit older she reversed a love-stealing spell cast by an evil pony, and in doing so did the whole "creating new magic" thing so got transported to another realm where she met Celestia (presumably a bit like in Magical Mystery Cure) who took her under her wing and adopted her as a niece. (I still maintain that you can adopt people as your son or daughter, but can't adopt them into other family roles. But whatever.) This all happens before she becomes Twilight's foal-sitter.

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It's in the book Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell. After becoming a princess, Twilight goes to Cadence for advice. It is explained that Cadence was born a pegasus but raised by earth ponies who found her in the woods. When she was a bit older she reversed a love-stealing spell cast by an evil pony, and in doing so did the whole "creating new magic" thing so got transported to another realm where she met Celestia (presumably a bit like in Magical Mystery Cure) who took her under her wing and adopted her as a niece. (I still maintain that you can adopt people as your son or daughter, but can't adopt them into other family roles. But whatever.) This all happens before she becomes Twilight's foal-sitter.

That is awesome. I always assumed only unicorns could ascend into being alicorns. I also thought that the 'creating new magic' rule applied only to Twilight as she embodies magic itself. Oh well, I'll have to find the book, read it and adjust my headcanon accordingly.

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For a similar reason Discord don't want to kill anypony (celestia in particular), he want to thrown equestria in ethernal chaos and rule over all.

 

My interpretation is that Discord was never really very evil. He was incredibly powerful and just thought Equestria was "better" (and funnier) his way. He didn't care that the ponies disagreed with that, and didn't care about the annoyance and inconvenience his chaos caused. He was mostly callous rather than cruel.

 

He only acted cruelly towards those who tried to stop him.

 

That is what makes his reform realistic. Once he had a pony whose opinion he did care about, he realised he needed to compromise. Even if he still felt his chaotic version of Equestria was better, he knew that Fluttershy and her friends did not. And so he put the world right, and contented himself with the more minor acts of silliness that you see in his later appearances.


That is awesome. I always assumed only unicorns could ascend into being alicorns. I also thought that the 'creating new magic' rule applied only to Twilight as she embodies magic itself. Oh well, I'll have to find the book, read it and adjust my headcanon accordingly.

 

Alicorns are a combination of unicorn, pegasus and earth pony. So I'd assume that any of those three pony varieties could become an alicorn. (Though we haven't seen an earth pony do so yet.)

 

 

 

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My interpretation is that Discord was never really very evil. He was incredibly powerful and just thought Equestria was "better" (and funnier) his way. He didn't care that the ponies disagreed with that, and didn't care about the annoyance and inconvenience his chaos caused. He was mostly callous rather than cruel.

 

He only acted cruelly towards those who tried to stop him.

 

That is what makes his reform realistic. Once he had a pony whose opinion he did care about, he realised he needed to compromise. Even if he still felt his chaotic version of Equestria was better, he knew that Fluttershy and her friends did not. And so he put the world right, and contented himself with the more minor acts of silliness that you see in his later appearances.

 

I have the same interpretation, Discord not had friends and use his magic only for himself, in the season 4 grow and learn the importance of friendship. 

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I have to say I pretty much concur about DisQord---I figure he'd never needed to have social interaction before, so he never learned to avoid imposing his wishes on others.  Then he made a friend, and it taught him.


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Personally, I think they are more like vampires from "Cirque De Freak", where they are not immortal, but age slower. Really, really slower. Also, I'd imagine that having the body of an earth pony, wings of a pegasi, and magic of a unicorn but ramped up to high levels would make them incredibly durable. However, yes, I would imagine that enough bashing and they can fold like any other living creature. Despite what people say, these characters are not gods, just very powerful ponies


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this is my opinion so it might night be right but since there special talent is something that is fairly big and is known by everyone that they would die if they were to be deprived of  something ex. luna and her moon celestia  and her sun

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i believe twilight and cadence are just as immortal as celestia or luna. if we go by the greek mythology the show is based on we see that the Olympians could turn mortals into full gods as they did with Hercules, so there is no reason that twilight should only be partly immortal if celestia is a full immortal.

i have my own theory or head canon as ive heard it called, that twilight was always a alicorn. i think that certain ponies are born with the potential to turn into alicorns when they fully fulfill there cutie marks. though this has only happened twice in thousands of years.


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I think that they can be killed.

While Twilight and Cadence to seem to be the more mortal alicorns, I don't think Celestia and Luna are free from that either.

In Canterlot Wedding Chrysalis was able to defeat Celestia in combat, if she can be knocked back like that in combat, I think that both her and Luna can be killed.


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