Should the fandom who want to change the show be called "Bronies"?

[ManaMinori 4,145]

In my opinion, a "Brony" is more than just a male (or female) who is a fan of the MLP:FIM series. What I think defines a Brony is the fact that they like MLP for what it is and what it has to offer- quality animation, relateable characters, character development, non-pandering to certain age groups, wholesome, clean entertainment, and much needed escapism from the going-on's of this depressing, violence/ hatred-filled world we live in. So if that defines a Brony, then should the groups who seek or wish to change the show with more negative aspects that are seen in fanworks like Fallout Equestria, SMILE HD, or Cupcakes worthy of being called "Bronies"?

[BastementSparkle 20,328]

 

 

So if that defines a Brony, then should the groups who seek or wish to change the show with more negative aspects that are seen in fanworks like Fallout Equestria, SMILE HD, or Cupcakes worthy of being called "Bronies"?

 

What makes you think the people who make works like that want to change the show?

 

 I love Fallout Equestria, and I love a lot of other Mature fanworks too. Doesn't mean I want the show to be like them. I love the show for being what it is. I love the bright colors, and cheerful jokes, and the good morals, and the happy songs and all those wonderful, fun-filled things. I don't want the show to be dark and gritty.

 

 But I can still enjoy dark and gritty fanworks on the side when I feel like it, as their own thing that just happens to be tied to my favorite show, but doesn't necessarily have to obey all it's rules. Even if some of those fans do want to change the show itself in some way, it wouldn't stop them from being fans, though you may disagree with them.

 

 So, yes. I would still call myself a brony. So I'd also call anyone else who enjoys those things too a brony, if that's what they'd like to be called.

[Blue Moon 6,342]

I'm more of the belief that a brony is just a name for a fan of the show. With that said, I think that you can't really "be worthy" of being a brony; if you want to be one, you can be; and if you want to create a fanwork that deviates from the source material; more power to you.

[Jeric 46,865]

This thread appears to be related to the My Little Pony franchise and/or the Bronydom in general. Thus, it has been sentenced to Sugarcube Corner.

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And yes, it is a time honored tradition for fans to be critical and/or desire to see alterations in the media they enjoy. That has nothing to do with the name that the fandom and the fans give themselves. Unless you are an Eagles fan. Then you are a Negadelphian.

[Dark Qiviut 22,457]

A brony is nothing more than a fan of any part of the product: show, comics, and/or merchandise. Even the brony separatists who claim they're not bronies are, factually, bronies, whether they like it or not.

 

 

 

So if that defines a Brony, then should the groups who seek or wish to change the show with more negative aspects that are seen in fanworks like Fallout Equestria, SMILE HD, or Cupcakes worthy of being called "Bronies"?

Someone else pulled a similar argument in another thread, and I responded to the fallacy with this:

 

 

Cutting you off right here. There's a completely big difference between fanwork and the work from the show. A lot of bronies love to write dark fanfic, fanart, etc. because it provides a great contrast with the optimistic nature of the show. It's the "What if?" factor that's seen in so many other fandoms, including ones with the opposite reaction of producing lighthearted fanwork into very dark products. Bronies know well that a lot of the content they write on FIMFiction and so on won't work in the actual show.

My response there is the same here.

[They call me Loyalty 1,949]

The term "brony" as with every label, is entirely subjective. As it's your vision on things, as it's with my vision on things too.

If you like it, then great. If you don't, then great too. Just be yourself, and let others be. You will find that we have a lot of things in common. Not only that, you'll also find yourself being a much happier and healthier person.

Acceptance, either of your person and aspects you don't like, as with from others, is actually key for Earth.

[EquestriaGuy 1,074]

Ya I don't think it's a good idea to try and define who is and isn't a true fan, worthy of a label. Bronies are just fans outside the demographic, which usually means an adult male, because the show has caught on among geek culture. Anyone of any age or gender outside the targeted demo can rightfully call themselves a brony.

[Envy 6,218]

A brony is nothing more than a fan of any part of the product: show, comics, and/or merchandise. Even the brony separatists who claim they're not bronies are, factually, bronies, whether they like it or not.

 

Um... No. You don't get to determine that. A certain group of fans of a show can not create a fandom title and then define it in a way that every single individual who likes the show is under the same name. It does not work that way.

 

But in the same way, we (this isn't referring to the member quoted above) can't play the No True Scotsman fallacy. The worst examples of Bronies can not be written off - If they identify themselves as Bronies that is what they are. This is part of the reason why non-Bronies hate Bronies, because they say "We're not all like that" instead of facing the fact that there are indeed bad parts of the fandom, and they need to be called out on.

[Luna the Great of all the Russias 3,015]

I see Brony to apply to anyone who is fan of MLPFIM (even those who prefer not to have that label). All fandoms, I imagine, would have its subgroups.

[The Awesome One 1,315]

Whether they want change or do not want change, they are fans of the show and therefore, they are Bronies (or Pegasisters).

[Dark Qiviut 22,457]

Um... No. You don't get to determine that. A certain group of fans of a show can not create a fandom title and then define it in a way that every single individual who likes the show is under the same name. It does not work that way.

Wrong. Just because they claim he or she regardless of age isn't a brony doesn't make it true. If the person is a fan of FIM in some way or another, then they're bronies, whether they claim they are or not. A brony is a fan of FIM, a fan of FIM is a brony. Nothing more, nothing less. Claiming otherwise overthinks the definition and reinforces vile brony stereotypes by telling others, "I'm not one of those fans."

 

This is part of the reason why non-Bronies hate Bronies, because they say "We're not all like that" instead of facing the fact that there are indeed bad parts of the fandom, and they need to be called out on.

There's a term for this: stereotyping. Too many of these anti-bronies (not non-bronies; non-bronies don't stereotype the fandom) stereotype bronies as such and paint a very broad brush. "We're not like that" doesn't excuse what bad things some bronies do: It's ridiculous to think they're treating some of the junk they do as okay. "We're not all like that" tells these guys to quit their bigotry.

Edited May 12, 2015 by Dark Qiviut

[Justin_Case001 4,907]

A brony is nothing more than a fan of any part of the product: show, comics, and/or merchandise. Even the brony separatists who claim they're not bronies are, factually, bronies, whether they like it or not.

Um... No. You don't get to determine that. A certain group of fans of a show can not create a fandom title and then define it in a way that every single individual who likes the show is under the same name. It does not work that way.

Wrong. Just because they claim he or she regardless of age isn't a brony doesn't make it true. If the person is a fan of FIM in some way or another, then they're bronies, whether they claim they are or not. A brony is a fan of FIM, a fan of FIM is a brony. Nothing more, nothing less. Claiming otherwise overthinks the definition and reinforces vile brony stereotypes by telling others, "I'm not one of those fans."

Dark Qiviut is technically correct.  (The best kind of correct)  I understand both points of view, and I respect the wishes of those who don't want to be called bronies or pegasisters, but it just comes down to a simple definition.  I don't care much for the human race, and I'd often rather not be affiliated with them.  But I'm a human whether I like it or not.  Brony has a very broad and simple definition.  It just means a fan outside the target demographic.  It doesn't mean one specific kind of fan.  It's not a "certain group of fans".  It's not an exclusive club who's members force their label on others.  If you're a fan, then you're  t e c h n i c a l l y  a brony/pegasister.  If you're walking on the street, you're a pedestrian.  If you're driving a car, then you're a motorist.  If you're buying stuff in a store, then you're a customer.  Not liking the terms doesn't make it untrue.

 

I completely agree that whenever one specifically requests not to be called a brony, it makes it sound as though they're saying "I'm a fan of MLP, but I'm not a sick pervert."  It reinforces negative stereotypes.  I've seen firsthand examples from outside the fandom of people saying, "It's okay to be an adult fan of MLP.  It's not okay to be a brony."  Just like it's okay to walk downtown, but it's not okay to be a pedestrian, right?

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

So far as "worthy" is concerned: I don't think Brony is that prestigious or coveted a title.  And, given the constant, hypercritical over-analysis of the show by so-called "fans," I often question if members of the fandom even care for the show at all.  Many Broners are likely just going through a phase; it's just a show they're watching now.  Oftentimes while hiding the fact that they watch it from most everyone; excepting in an environment (such as this) where they are protected by anonymity.

 

So if that defines a Brony, then should the groups who seek or wish to change the show with more negative aspects that are seen in fanworks like Fallout Equestria, SMILE HD, or Cupcakes worthy of being called "Bronies"?

I think Grimdork is creatively bankrupt, bandwagon-jumping, chauvinistically violence-condoning trash passed off as literature and art.  As well as, possibly, a horribly misguided attempt at "butching up" the series and fandom; presumably for the benefit of non-viewers that aren't interested in the show regardless.

Edited May 12, 2015 by Ziggy and Angelbaby

[Envy 6,218]

It's not an exclusive club who's members force their label on others.

 

Except what's happening here is that the label is being forced on others who don't want to call themselves by it. "Brony" is not a word in the Dictionary that is essential language to refer to something concrete. It is a fandom title created by a certain group of fans that appeared out of the middle of nowhere. I don't see attempting to treat it as a Dictionary definition word beneficial either way. To act as if this group of fans can force the title on all of us is just wrong, overextending your boundary. MLP existed and had a fandom long before the group that would create this title ever came into play. And this made-up definition of you all's also supposes that any of them who happened to also enjoy FiM as they have previous generations are automatically under the fandom label that was created by this group of new fans that came out of the middle of nowhere. Of course, they don't care... You know why? Because they don't care about your label and know it doesn't apply to them (except for those few who did end up calling themselves 'Bronies', nothing wrong with that).

 

Beside all of that, this treating of something like a fandom label as if it automatically applies to a certain group of people whether they agree or not is really, really, really absurd. Fandom labels are for fun. If someone does not wish to apply a fandom label to themselves, they don't have to.

 

There are many, many, many, reasons that one may not want to refer to themselves as a 'Brony', they don't stop at wishing to avoid being put under the hurtful stereotypes. They include, like in the group above, being a general, long-time fan of MLP who came across FiM because they've always been into MLP. As I said before, to even attempt to forcefully label these fans as "Bronies" is absurd. Secondly, there's the general belief that labeling oneself under a fandom label as rather extreme, and that's where I lay. I would not put myself under a fandom title unless I'm just all about a series... I don't think that my interest in My Little Pony defines me, thus I am nothing more than just a general fan. There's also having a strong disagreement with the term, which I also lay under. I will never accept Bro/Brother as gender-neutral.

 

I do understand the point about some people running from the label as to not want to be negatively-stereotyped, but... Seriously, you all, this is just a fandom label. It is just for fun. If someone runs from it, there's nothing you can do about it. There is no way you can pin them under the label and any definition of it. You don't have that power, and you shouldn't. It doesn't matter what reason someone is deciding not to label themselves under the label is, once they decide they're not under it, they're not. Respect it. Fandom titles are just for fun, don't act like you can just brand people with them that don't wish. It's just silly, and trust me it pushes me even further away from calling myself anything when I see the fandom treating labels like this.

[Dark Qiviut 22,457]

So far as "worthy" is concerned: I don't think Brony is that prestigious or coveted a title. And, given the constant, hypercritical over-analysis of the show by so-called "fans," I often question if members of the fandom even care for the show at all.

This is not only a part of the separatist mindset that I called out twice earlier. It's also reinforcing the No True Scottsman fallacy that Envy called out earlier. Fans of the show are bronies. You, me, and everyone else here unless they're not fans of FIM. There's no reason to shove bronies into another category just because you don't like how they view the show.

 

People analyze because they like the show. Good or bad, they dissect areas of the show or episodes that work or don't and explain why. A very good review/analysis can change the outlook of its quality. Claiming how they analyze hints that they don't enjoy the show is absolutely ludicrous.

 

I think Grimdork is creatively bankrupt, bandwagon-jumping, chauvinistically violence-condoning trash passed off as literature and art. As well as, possibly, a horribly misguided attempt at "butching up" the series and fandom; presumably for the benefit of non-viewers that aren't interested in the show regardless.

This is a major strawman; people like to write dark or grimdark because they like to. It doesn't determine nor affect their enjoyment of the product itself. Bronies will write or draw whatever the hell they want, whether it's kid-appropriate or not. They know that the majority of their content doesn't work in the show.

 

"Brony" is not a word in the Dictionary that is essential language to refer to something concrete. It is a fandom title created by a certain group of fans that appeared out of the middle of nowhere.

Just because "brony" is not in the dictionary doesn't change the definition of "brony." "Brony" is only the title to describe fans of FIM. Male, female, young, old, and everyone in between. There's nothing to overcomplicate it and makes the fandom feel more inclusive instead of exclusive. There's no reason to overcomplicate things by claiming you're a fan of FIM, but not a brony.

 

As I said before, to even attempt to forcefully label these fans as "Bronies" is absurd.

There's a difference between "forcing" and correcting. Just because they claim they're not bronies doesn't make it true. If they fit the one criteria of what makes a brony a brony, then they are bronies. Just because I don't say it to them nor do they "identify" as one doesn't change that. Saying "I'm an FIM, but not a brony" is like saying "I like buses and trains, but I'm not a busfan and railfan."

 

If fans of any of the previous generations like FIM, they're bronies who are also MLP fans. But not every brony likes the previous generations, and not every fan of the previous generations are bronies.

 

I would not put myself under a fandom title unless I'm just all about a series... I don't think that my interest in My Little Pony defines me, thus I am nothing more than just a general fan.

That's one of the biggest flaws of your argument.

1. You're right. Being a brony is fun and having the title is fun. But you're treating the term as if it's some very strict, overcomplicated or religious-like title like Christian, Jew, Muslim, Protestant, or Athiest. As if you can be one thing, but not another. "Brony" is merely the name of the fan of the generation, like "Whovian" is the name for fans of "Dr. Who," "Trekkie" for Star Trek fans, and "furry" for fans of the anthropomorphic animal concept in general. People who are bronies have other hobbies they're interested in. They may be bigger Whovians than bronies. They may be bigger bronies than Whovians. Or they may be equally big Whovians and bronies. They're still Whovians and bronies because they're fans of Dr. Who and FIM, respectively.

    

   I'm a railfan and busfan. Why? Because I like trains and buses, respectively. Stuff like being a devoted enthusiast is arbitrary criteria. You just have to like it.

2. Being a brony has nothing to do with how devoted you are to the show. Remember, "brony" can mean just being a fan of merchandise outside the show like the comics or toyline. Hell, bronies don't have to be that devoted to the product or subculture at all. They just have to like it enough to be a fan. Casual bronies exist, and they're just as much a brony as anyone else.

I will never accept Bro/Brother as gender-neutral.

You're factually incorrect here. "Bro" and "brother" have definitely more and more colloquial regardless of gender. You have plenty of boys and girls, particularly the millennials, refer to each other as "bros" as a method of endearment. How much you hear it depends on your anecdotes, whether it's something you hear in your city or see online. "Brony" is gender- and age-neutral. And I'll say it's very pro-femininst because it doesn't inherently judge gender nor other pony species.

 

once they decide they're not under it, they're not. Respect it.

There's no reason to respect or tolerate opinions unless there's an objectively good reason such as "I'm not a brony because I'm not a fan of FIM."

1. "I'm not a brony because I don't want to be called one" relies on "Because I said so" and "Just because" as your reasons.
2. "I'm not a brony because I don't want to be associated with parts of the fandom" is something too many brony separatists use. That logic is dumb because they're using stereotypes and saying, "I'm not one of 'those' fans."
3. "I'm not a brony because I'm not as devoted as others/don't follow the community" reinforces the No True Scottsman fallacy by making the definition too complicated. There's no other criteria of what makes a brony a brony other than liking the product.
4. "I'm not a brony because I don't like labels" implies negative implications of the word and reinforcements of stereotypes.
5. "I'm not a brony because I'm not a male" is extremely sexist and antifeminist. It creates an invisible barrier by treating "brony" as if it's some kind of exclusive club. Logic like this is why the sexist "pegasister" title exists.

All five reasons contain contrived logic. Bronies have been the butt of dozens of disgusting stereotypes for nearly five years now, and it hasn't gone away; hundreds of bronies are in the closet for many reasons. The reasons above create and reinforce vile brony stereotypes, even if they say they're not. You're singling out bronies by creating negative implications whenever any of these reasons are used. If the separatists use stereotypes for their reasons, then they're telling everyone they can't be bothered to explain their logic without use of bigotry.

 

and trust me it pushes me even further away from calling myself anything when I see the fandom treating labels like this.

That's scapegoating, and I called out people for this several times before. You're blaming the fans for abandoning something you want you love, much less thinking of it. The fans aren't responsible for you abandoning anything. You're responsible for your own actions and decisions. The second you blame them, you're telling everyone here you lack any genuine enjoyment or loyalty to not only this product, but every other product you like out there.

Edited May 12, 2015 by Dark Qiviut

[Envy 6,218]

"I'm not a brony because I don't want to be called one" relies on "Because I said so" and "Just because" as your reasons.

 

Yet the term 'Brony' was decided by a group of people that I'm not a part of because they said so, and just because they wanted it that way.

 

I am not obligated to go under a label that some random internet nerd boys decided would describe their fandom just because I decided to watch a TV show and liked it. I repeat to you that 'Brony' is not a Dictionary term - it is not an official title in any way, shape, or form. So using terms like "correcting" just isn't in the least bit appropriate here. There can be no literal definition of the label, because it was just created by a certain group of fans. And I assume it was created by them for fun, not to be a literal term that has this definitive definition that you want to claim it does.

 

You try to peg me down for imaginary over-complicated definitions, but there is no definition of the term. There can never be. The fairest and best way to look at it is that people who feel that they want to identify under it can. You're right that can be anyone that likes the show... BUT at the end of the day it is just a fandom title that a group of people conceived. It does not belong over anyone who does not identify as under their group. I do not.

 

BTW, your whole argument that because millennials/majority beginning to accept bro/brother as gender-neutral means that it is, is the very definition of argumentum ad populum.

Edited May 12, 2015 by Envy

[Justin_Case001 4,907]

@@Envy

 

I'll still have to side mostly with Dark Qiviut, but I also understand that it seems unfair nowdays that you can't just like anything without having a label slapped on you, and then having people make unfair assumptions about what that label means.  In this case, though, I believe that the Gen4 fans that came along and made up the term simply coined a term that encompases ALL mlp fans, past or present gens.

 

I get what you're saying, though.  I'm a Star Trek fan, but I have never in my life called myself a trekkie.  Like brony, trekkie comes with all sorts of unfair assumptions and stigmas.  Most people would probably imagine a trekkie as someone who goes to conventions and cosplays in Star Trek uniforms, when I'm sure the fact is that a trekkie is nothing more than someone who really likes Star Trek.  That's me.  So, I guess I'm a trekkie.  If that's the definition, then I am one.  I've never called myself one because all I do is watch the show.  I don't go to conventions or cosplay, and I don't participate in any sort of Star Trek community.  But if I'm technically a trekkie, that's fine by me.  Anyway, that's all I have to say on the matter.

 

 

I will never accept Bro/Brother as gender-neutral.

Much to Dark Qiviut's chagrin, I actually agree with you 100% on this.  I have never/will never/can never comprehend why having a separate term to describe each sex, for anything, is sexist.  In my opinion, if pegasister is sexist, then so is the word "woman".  What is wrong with having two terms?  Men and women are different.  We have masculine and feminine terms, and that's fine.  Nobody created the term pegasister to be malicious and divide the fandom.  Claiming that is making an unfair assumption.  I do not believe that anbody considers bronies to be an exclusive club, no girls allowed, and pegasisters to be something else entirely, a separate group or subgroup or fandom.  As in, "You're not a true brony, you're just a pegasister."  No, I don't believe that at all.  To me, and I think to most, the terms are no different than actor and actress.  It's only sexist and dividing if one believes it is.  That's my two bits.

[StoneCold 144]

A brony is a fan of the show. However, a fan of the show can still want change in the show. Chances are that, while someone may enjoy the show in general, they may enjoy certain aspects over others. This does not make them any less of a fan than any other.

[Envy 6,218]

@@Envy

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I'll still have to side mostly with Dark Qiviut, but I also understand that it seems unfair nowdays that you can't just like anything without having a label slapped on you, and then having people make unfair assumptions about what that label means. In this case, though, I believe that the Gen4 fans that came along and made up the term simply coined a term that encompases ALL mlp fans, past or present gens.

I don't think so... I've been on this forum since the very beginning, and have followed the fandom even before that... The fandom at its foundation was always about putting down the older generations to raise up FiM. "Oh yeah... Don't worry, this new generation is completely different from that old girly crap" - the exact vibe this fandom gave off, and trust me those words were said many times.

 

The fandom came in with little to no relation the current MLP fandom and, in fact, did everything in their power to trash it. So I can say without any doubt that was not the purpose of the fandom title.

 

Even if it was, this new group of fans has no authority whatsoever to try to tack this label of their's on the general MLP fandom. I'm going to tell you right now that the majority of them do not accept the label, and they don't have to. It's not their label, it's the new fans' label.

 

Much to Dark Qiviut's chagrin, I actually agree with you 100% on this. I have never/will never/can never comprehend why having a separate term to describe each sex, for anything, is sexist. In my opinion, if pegasister is sexist, then so is the word "woman". What is wrong with having two terms? Men and women are different. We have masculine and feminine terms, and that's fine. Nobody created the term pegasister to be malicious and divide the fandom. Claiming that is making an unfair assumption. I do not believe that anbody considers bronies to be an exclusive club, no girls allowed, and pegasisters to be something else entirely, a separate group or subgroup or fandom. As in, "You're not a true brony, you're just a pegasister." No, I don't believe that at all. To me, and I think to most, the terms are no different than actor and actress. It's only sexist and dividing if one believes it is. That's my two bits.

But you see this isn't about the pegasister term, this is about the brony term. Regardless of what the millennials at large may or may not think, bro is a shortened form of brother which is a masculine sibling. Even if some accept it as gender-neutral it's not going to be to a lot of people, because it doesn't make sense that way.

 

The brony term is, by default, male-gendered. People want to claim that pegasister is making an issue of gender, but the term brony that is supposed to be default is what actually made the issue about gender.

 

If it were truthfully a gender-neutral fandom term like "whovian" there would be no need for a split whatsoever... But the fandom title creators had to, by default, make this an issue of gender.

Edited May 13, 2015 by Envy

[Justin_Case001 4,907]

I don't think so... I've been on this forum since the very beginning, and have followed the fandom even before that... The fandom at its foundation was always about putting down the older generations to raise up FiM. "Oh yeah... Don't worry, this new generation is completely different from that old girly crap" - the exact vibe this fandom gave off, and trust me those words were said many times.

 

The fandom came in with little to no relation the current MLP fandom and, in fact, did everything in their power to trash it. So I can say without any doubt that was not the purpose of the fandom title.

 

Even if it was, this new group of fans has no authority whatsoever to try to tack this label of their's on the general MLP fandom. I'm going to tell you right now that the majority of them do not accept the label, and they don't have to. It's not their label, it's the new fans' label.

Oh.

 

Well....

 

That wasn't really the impression I got....so if that's true, then that changes everything.  My apologies.

[KatonRyu 1,033]

 

 

"Trekkie" for Star Trek fans

 

It's interesting you should mention that particular one, because I recall fierce fights between 'Trekkies' and 'Trekkers', both terms used to describe fans of Star Trek, but who are factions of an overarching group of Star Trek fans. This is ignoring the fans of Deep Space Nine who refer to themselves as 'Niners'.

 

The point I'm trying to make is that a fandom-made term can never be applied to the entirety of the fandom it seeks to describe. In the case of Trekkie vs Trekker, 'Trekkie' is said to be a demeaning term to serious fans. There are also people who say that being a Trekkie means that you're obsessed, while being a Trekker means you like the show, but nothing more. Both terms, however, refer to fans of the show, and nothing more. I'm fairly certain that there are many Star Trek fans out there who wish to avoid the naming crap altogether and simply refer to themselves as Star Trek fans instead of something else.

 

Fandom labels will always have their proponents and opponents. Applying them to people who don't identify with them isn't correct, because fandom labels have no official definition, like Envy. They will always be abstract constructs, of which everyone will have their own opinion. You can't call every Star Trek fan a Trekkie because a lot of them hate that word and prefer another fandom label like Trekker, or no label at all. These labels are nothing but methods of identifying yourself, mostly to fellow fans. Your own interpretation of the label is what matters. If you want to call yourself a brony, then you're a brony. If not, even though you like the show, then you're just a fan of MLP:FiM.

[Envy 6,218]

Oh.

 

Well....

 

That wasn't really the impression I got....so if that's true, then that changes everything.  My apologies.

 

I'm not meaning to say that every single Brony at the start of the fandom had these opinions, but it was certainly very pervasive. Perhaps it was just a mechanism to try to spread the fandom to more individuals who already had a very negative image of MLP in their minds, but it was there, and it wasn't cool.

 

Certainly, the fandom (or at least this forum) has gradually become less and less hostile toward earlier generations; however, if you go into a topic about the earlier generations today you will still see a lot of hostility.

[Blaze Bronson 343]

@@Envy, 

 

1. There is no official dictionary.

2. There are many dictionaries, some which contain the definition for Brony.

3. Brony is therefore just as much a word as askance or friendship.

 

Everything is relative, so only logic can take us from here...

1. I believe that all words have a definiton. If it doesn't have a definition, it's only a sound. Agree on this?

2. The definition of Brony is: Someone who is a fan of MLP. Agree on this?

 

If you agree on 1. that's good, that mean's Brony is a word.

If you disagree on 1. Why? What's your definition of a word?

 

If you agree on 2., then why aren't you a Brony? Somewhere in that definition you don't fit in, are you not a person? Are you not a fan?

If you disagree, then what is your definition of a Brony? And what makes you don't fit into that definition?

 

If your definition of Brony is something like these, then I understand.

- Someone who is a fan of FiM, but not the other generations of MLP.

- Someone who became a fan of MLP after the release of FiM.

- Or other similar definitions. What's yours?

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Unless they're making the animation out of some malicious attempt to attack bronies and aren't actually fans of the show, then those people are bronies if they want to be called that. Granted, that still won't make me fans of them, but whatever.

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Here is what I think...
To me Bronys (or is it Bronies?) and Pegasisters are a higher stage of fans while fans are the people who like the show slightly and aren't that into it.... 

 

Feel free to comment to my theory.

Edited May 14, 2015 by PathfinderCS