Possible ideas for an evil Twilight

[heavens-champion 1,905]

Here are my ideas for an evil Twilight:

- A Twilight corrupted by dark magic (like in Ponies of Dark Water)

- A Twilight manipulated by a villain (think Darth Vader)

- A Twilight from an alternate universe who lost her faith in friendship (her friends dying, failing to stop Starlight from changing time and space, etc.), and now wants to spread despair throughout the multiverse (and if she is from a universe where she failed to talk Starlight out of changing time and space to the point where they were the only survivors, she harbor a special hatred for every Starlight in the universe, because she represents her failure. No, I don't hate Starlight).

Well, those are my ideas. Who else has ideas for an evil Twilight?

[Kadeda 178]

The third idea is the most interesting one. We had a taste of an evil twilight and she seemed like she would be a awesome villain.

[Dashy 4 Ever 4,835]

All of them are good! They make sense!

[Denim&Venöm 18,664]

Evil is subjective.

Perhaps we have a twilight where friendship failed her and equestria. Perhaps an event where she blames her friends for the failure. 

I mean look at the movie. Twi's friends damn near sabatoged their mission. She was right to be angry at them. Or how about a canterlot wedding, where none of them listened to her, completely ignoring the moral from S2 E3? Even in the first book, twi gets pretty sick of everypony. Maybe a combination of resentment, frustration and betrayl lead her to deem the magic of friendship a curse instead of a blessing. 

Or heck, how about going too far the other way? A fanatical twilight forcing everypony to be friends? No conflict. No disagreements. No having just one friend, or picking and chosing. Everypony MUST be firends. Following the edicts of her mentor and her life lessons like a zealot. And if you're not her friend, then your not worthy to live.

 

[SDP40F amtrak 2,447]

Evil twilight Sparkle  I assume it midnight or not but that be cool   and @dream_star1235 would like that 

Edited July 6, 2018 by Twilight Sparkle is best

[J.J 921]

33 minutes ago, Denim&Venom said:

Evil is subjective.

Perhaps we have a twilight where friendship failed her and equestria. Perhaps an event where she blames her friends for the failure. 

I mean look at the movie. Twi's friends damn near sabatoged their mission. She was right to be angry at them. Or how about a canterlot wedding, where none of them listened to her, completely ignoring the moral from S2 E3? Even in the first book, twi gets pretty sick of everypony. Maybe a combination of resentment, frustration and betrayl lead her to deem the magic of friendship a curse instead of a blessing. 

Or heck, how about going too far the other way? A fanatical twilight forcing everypony to be friends? No conflict. No disagreements. No having just one friend, or picking and chosing. Everypony MUST be firends. Following the edicts of her mentor and her life lessons like a zealot. And if you're not her friend, then your not worthy to live.

 

I would see Starlight as the rising star protagonist in this scenario, aided by some other familiars. Twilight puts Celestia and Luna in Tartarus and sits atop the Crystal Empire, the other ponies are forced into the political implications of her rise to power, She basically universally achieves what Staright achieved on a lower level, and I would want that to be recurring as well... she slips away at the end much like Starlight, and now Chrysalis, but she and Starlight have like, an intense moment where you can see that the tide has completely done a 180, and Twilight has an objective philosophy behind what she has done, the only option is to beat her with magic, and we get a S4 type battle between two of the greatest magic wielders in Equestria(I say it like this because Caedence is her family, and the mother of her neice, who I could also see as a rising star(i mean flurry heart not caedence) but only she is mentored by Starlight to fight Twilight!) Imagine a world with her and Shining Armor passed away, revelry that only forced socialization can resolve.

Edited July 6, 2018 by Aquaflame

[heavens-champion 1,905]

10 minutes ago, Califorum said:

I find dark magic to be an overused thing for villains. How about have her be overly friendly and corrupted by light magic? She would believe she is doing good when she isn't.

I prefer dark magic.

[FlareGun45 2,221]

We've had an evil Twilight multiple times already! We need an evil Spike - he's the only one in the main cast that hasn't been evil yet! Since the Mane Six had the Dark Water comic, Return of Harmony, AND the Mean 6, and Starlight started off evil, I wanna see how a brainwashed evil Spike would slow the heroes down! Twilight would never wanna hurt him (and he to her, but this is 'brainwashed'), so this would really complicate things for her! 

Hey maybe an evil CMCs too! :3

[SaburoDaimando 1,196]

3 hours ago, Denim&Venom said:

Evil is subjective.

Perhaps we have a twilight where friendship failed her and equestria. Perhaps an event where she blames her friends for the failure. 

I mean look at the movie. Twi's friends damn near sabatoged their mission. She was right to be angry at them. Or how about a canterlot wedding, where none of them listened to her, completely ignoring the moral from S2 E3? Even in the first book, twi gets pretty sick of everypony. Maybe a combination of resentment, frustration and betrayl lead her to deem the magic of friendship a curse instead of a blessing. 

Or heck, how about going too far the other way? A fanatical twilight forcing everypony to be friends? No conflict. No disagreements. No having just one friend, or picking and chosing. Everypony MUST be firends. Following the edicts of her mentor and her life lessons like a zealot. And if you're not her friend, then your not worthy to live.

 

I actually did reference the movie as a case for Twilight to turn evil.  Perhaps instead of realizing her error, Twilight believed that she was truly better off without friends and began going rogue.  Here's how it would play out.

After Twilight's friends abandoned her for going too far in Seaquestria, Twilight believed that she was better off without any friends.  She ditches Spike and decides to take off for Canterlot just to overthrow the Storm King.  When she runs into Tempest Shadow's airship, she brings it down with ease, and forces Tempest to go back with her to Canterlot.  The Airship crashes into Mt Aris, shaking up the home of the Seaponies/Hippogryphs.  Applejack and the rest of the MAne 5 caught wind of what happened and had to return to Canterlot to stop Twilight.

But it was worse than too late.  Twilight, using Tempest Shadow as a servant, busts into CAnterlot, defeats as many of the Storm King's Minions before defeating the Storm King.  She then takes the Staff of Sacanas to drain the petrified Celestia, Luna and Cadence of their magic before shattering them to pieces and taking over as Empress of Equestria, shedding her former title of Princess of Friendship.  This revelation shocked the Mane 5 and even Starlight Glimmer.  Twilight finally believed that ponies have gotten too weak over time, binding by the slavery called "Friendship."  To prove this, she summons the Windigos from their hiding and beats them in combat, enslaving them to her will.  And to make matters worse, she encourages every pony to abandon the ideals of friendship, and join her in conquering the planet.

Queen Novo took wind of what Twilight has become and challenged her to a fight, only to be bested by the Empress of Equestria.  Humiliated, Novo surrendered her forces to Twilight and forces her daughter to go into hiding, along with the Mane 5, Starlight, Spike, Tempest Shadow, and even Discord.  Equestria was entering a dark age lead by a failed student of Princess Celestia.

 

How's all that?

[Twilight Luna 31,339]

Being evil just for the sake of being evil is boring. Give her a motivation like revenge.  Have her steal the powers from the other princesses because she believes they have been useless against threats to Equestria like Tirik, Discord, and Crysilis. She believes she can rule more effectively than they can. 

[heavens-champion 1,905]

37 minutes ago, Twilight Luna said:

Being evil just for the sake of being evil is boring. Give her a motivation like revenge.  Have her steal the powers from the other princesses because she believes they have been useless against threats to Equestria like Tirik, Discord, and Crysilis. She believes she can rule more effectively than they can. 

I doubt threatening destroy the multiverse due to anguish counts as evil for the sake of evil.

[Twilight Luna 31,339]

1 minute ago, heavens-champion said:

I doubt threatening destroy the multiverse due to anguish counts as evil for the sake of evil.

No, that justifiable revenge against the world/universe. That’s interesting,

[Goat-kun 2,527]

So, judging from the opinions inside the thread, this one and only canon pony Twilight is unable to become a villain by the grace of her own rational decision ... Then don't force her unless you have a really good story that doesn't involve your favorite Not-Twily character getting all the spotlight. If it doesn't benefit Twilight then don't bucking do it. If it changes her personality then don't bucking do it either. Just make another villain. We could use a bunch of good worst ponies that aren't villains due to first world problems.

 

Now, if I was to make Twilight antagonistic: in order to save everyone from a hopeless situation, Twilight would have to reach into the very depths of her magic, incidentally transforming herself into a nightmare. She'd then proceed to wipe the floor with everypony she just saved until she, herself, would fight and befriend Midnight within her own dream. Yes, Twilight becoming a villainess would be a Twilight arc for Twilight growth and Twilight awesomeness. Good day sirs!

[heavens-champion 1,905]

Just now, Twilight Luna said:

No, that justifiable revenge against the world/universe. That’s interesting,

Okay.

[Twilight Luna 31,339]

Just now, heavens-champion said:

Okay.

In her eyes, she believes she is correct. That makes a compelling villain. 

[heavens-champion 1,905]

55 minutes ago, SaburoDaimando said:

I actually did reference the movie as a case for Twilight to turn evil.  Perhaps instead of realizing her error, Twilight believed that she was truly better off without friends and began going rogue.  Here's how it would play out.

After Twilight's friends abandoned her for going too far in Seaquestria, Twilight believed that she was better off without any friends.  She ditches Spike and decides to take off for Canterlot just to overthrow the Storm King.  When she runs into Tempest Shadow's airship, she brings it down with ease, and forces Tempest to go back with her to Canterlot.  The Airship crashes into Mt Aris, shaking up the home of the Seaponies/Hippogryphs.  Applejack and the rest of the MAne 5 caught wind of what happened and had to return to Canterlot to stop Twilight.

But it was worse than too late.  Twilight, using Tempest Shadow as a servant, busts into CAnterlot, defeats as many of the Storm King's Minions before defeating the Storm King.  She then takes the Staff of Sacanas to drain the petrified Celestia, Luna and Cadence of their magic before shattering them to pieces and taking over as Empress of Equestria, shedding her former title of Princess of Friendship.  This revelation shocked the Mane 5 and even Starlight Glimmer.  Twilight finally believed that ponies have gotten too weak over time, binding by the slavery called "Friendship."  To prove this, she summons the Windigos from their hiding and beats them in combat, enslaving them to her will.  And to make matters worse, she encourages every pony to abandon the ideals of friendship, and join her in conquering the planet.

Queen Novo took wind of what Twilight has become and challenged her to a fight, only to be bested by the Empress of Equestria.  Humiliated, Novo surrendered her forces to Twilight and forces her daughter to go into hiding, along with the Mane 5, Starlight, Spike, Tempest Shadow, and even Discord.  Equestria was entering a dark age lead by a failed student of Princess Celestia.

 

How's all that?

I'm guessing Tempest Shadow joins the heroes after being rescued, and Twilight keeps Queen Novo as a special prisoner, and the Storm King becomes the Starscream in Twilight's empire.

Just now, Twilight Luna said:

In her eyes, she believes she is correct. That makes a compelling villain. 

That, and being remined of her failures drives her onward in her quest to right the wrongs.

[J.J 921]

I find vengeance to be a very vanilla motive, Starlight had an infrastructural vision when I was talking about Twilight adapting to a "dark prerogative" is because forcing the universal friendship, making universal unification, in a sense that her vision is objectively important to keep peace within Equestria, but she doesn't see how it has impacted the citizens negatively, she surpasses her "superiors" she feels restriction from what is "best" for Equestria, its not the same as being "evil" is being "mad" they arent the same in the sense of the word we are speaking, it's being drunk with influence, and having toxic innovation.

[Senko 459]

Yes I can see it now as the end of season 9.
We open on Twilight attending a funeral for one of the mane 6. Celestia tries to comfort her but she lashes out and runs off as we go into the opening song. Then we move into the ponyville we know as a deranged twilight attacks determined to teach her younger self friendship is a lie as her friends will eventually leave her as alone as she was before coming to Ponyville. As for the ending we have a few options.

1) When defeating the evil future Twilight the other mane 6 ascend to Alicorns implying they'll always have each other (possibly revealed to be future Twilights real plan).

2) We close on the same funeral only this time Twilight leans on Celestia for support saying even though her first friends are gone she'll always have the precious memories they made together.

3) Future Twilight kills everyone and moves on to another dimension to do the same thing.

Personally I prefer the first one.

 

[J.J 921]

2 minutes ago, Senko said:

Yes I can see it now as the end of season 9.
We open on Twilight attending a funeral for one of the mane 6. Celestia tries to comfort her but she lashes out and runs off as we go into the opening song. Then we move into the ponyville we know as a deranged twilight attacks determined to teach her younger self friendship is a lie as her friends will eventually leave her as alone as she was before coming to Ponyville. As for the ending we have a few options.

1) When defeating the evil future Twilight the other mane 6 ascend to Alicorns implying they'll always have each other (possibly revealed to be future Twilights real plan).

2) We close on the same funeral only this time Twilight leans on Celestia for support saying even though her first friends are gone she'll always have the precious memories they made together.

3) Future Twilight kills everyone and moves on to another dimension to do the same thing.

Personally I prefer the first one.

 

I prefer her never becomming evil actually, or it's revealed she was doing wrong, as a means to a righteous end secretly all along as a twist...(if it were to actually happen) but I dont see an ending to MLP with any death or betrayal, they are in the process of creating new identities to work with.

[Senko 459]

1 hour ago, Aquaflame said:

I prefer her never becomming evil actually, or it's revealed she was doing wrong, as a means to a righteous end secretly all along as a twist...(if it were to actually happen) but I dont see an ending to MLP with any death or betrayal, they are in the process of creating new identities to work with.

True still my ending one works for a twist Twilight was never evil she was just trying to help her friends ascend to Alicorns so they could all stay together.

[Plonkett 345]

I would love to see an evil version of Twilight.

[heavens-champion 1,905]

On ‎7‎/‎7‎/‎2018 at 11:08 AM, vgmaster9 said:

I would love to see an evil version of Twilight.

But do you have any ideas for one?

[Kadeda 178]

They should have kept mean 6 Twilight around... or shown that she survived and Chrissy would have to team up with Starlight and Twilight to stop her or something. Mean 6 Twilight was edgelord as fuk. She would have worked.

[Plonkett 345]

5 hours ago, heavens-champion said:

But do you have any ideas for one?

Her friends getting killed by a villain would be a good one in my opinion.

[Sepul-Coloratura 762]

I think her obsessed by preventing the worst possible future and trying to control everything could be an interesting idea. It's her weakness and it can explain her actions. Good villains are actually good guys in their point of view. Like Sinestro from Green Lantern.