Rank Rebuild

[Toastypk 923]

Well F me, then, I seriously dropped.

Points,does that mean brohoof (and others) count? If so, It will be a seriously long time before getting any higher.

I dunno how people rank up 10,000+ of those.

(Thankfully these don't actually mean anything substantive! ...right? )

Edited September 6, 2022 by Toastypk

[Luna the Great of all the Russias 2,986]

4 hours ago, Toastypk said:

(Thankfully these don't actually mean anything substantive! ...right? )

Of course they mean something substantive! The reason? Forum culture! Another example is like being the OP of a thread that has thousands of posts. No one cares from outside the forums. But within the context of the forums, what you have is a high status symbol. When people see your name, they bask in your glory and think, "O! That is the guy who made the thread with 10 000 posts!"

[Tacodidra 61,228]

6 hours ago, Toastypk said:

Points,does that mean brohoof (and others) count? If so, It will be a seriously long time before getting any higher.

I doubt it – I have a lot more brohoofs than posts, but I went down from evil changeling (though I never had the badge, as I reached the rank while it was glitched) to kirin.

I had forgotten I was a kirin before, it's almost like a new rank to me.

Edited September 6, 2022 by Tacodidra

[Illiad Easle 3,164]

@Jeric

Similar to @Props

I'm more than a little miffed at this change, I was up in the ponies and now I'm all the way back down to Parasprite? I've been here for years (Since 2013) with over 4k posts and over 2k brohoofs, I should be higher than rank 4/23.

[Astralshy 26,971]

9 hours ago, Toastypk said:

Well F me, then, I seriously dropped.

Points,does that mean brohoof (and others) count? If so, It will be a seriously long time before getting any higher.

I dunno how people rank up 10,000+ of those.

(Thankfully these don't actually mean anything substantive! ...right? )

I doubt that too

@Rikifive has more brohooves (and posts than me) but still he is just a Kirin while I'm a Reformed Changeling. So there must be more than the number of brohooves at work here

besides does it really matter?

[Celli 4,338]

I've been here since mid 2013 as well, I was in crystal ponies before the ranks got expanded, then ponies, and now I'm at over 4k posts and brohoofs, and yet I'm only bunny rank now. I do not like this change at all. I get it's just a silly rank but c'mon.

[Illiad Easle 3,164]

1 minute ago, Astral Soul said:

besides does it really matter?

In the RP section at least having a higher rank lent some credence to your skill and dedication. A higher rank showed that you had been here for a while and were more likely to stick around.

At least to me it helped me stick through the hard times because I was working towards something. Now that all that effort has been taken away I feel cheated. I stayed here because I wanted to keep posting here to improve my rank, and now that's gone.

[Deae Rising Shine~ 55,746]

And here I am now with the highest rank(I was Yak before) XD

[Celli 4,338]

I think it's important to ask the community for feedback on changes like these before going ahead with implementing them and not asking at all. I've been here 9+ years and it feels like a lot of that is wasted now at a low rank like this.

Edited September 6, 2022 by Celli

[Megas 27,702]

Is it gonna be fixed? I don't know what makes me a Crystal Pony but I was at EoH before the change

I know it's trivial but it's the little details that makes me appreciate the site a bit more

[Megas 27,702]

1 minute ago, Props said:

@Megas @Celli

How did you two get the member titles? I don't know where to find that option.

Subscriber exclusive I believe

[Megas 27,702]

4 minutes ago, Props said:

@Megas

Were you a subscriber in the past? If so, it's interesting how that title stayed. 

Yeah I was, you keep your title even after the subscription lapses. Though you can't change it again afaik until you resub

[Jeric 46,854]

29 minutes ago, Celli said:

I think it's important to ask the community for feedback on changes like these before going ahead with implementing them and not asking at all. I've been here 9+ years and it feels like a lot of that is wasted now at a low rank like this.

Quoting you Celli just as a general way to key my reply off of. This reply isn’t directed to you in particular, and yes your point is valid. 

I wouldn’t have changed the old system to this if they paid me. I don’t want to speak for other staff but I’m sure they feel the same. The old system was a perfect and simple measure of contribution for the people that user MLPF. You may have noticed that when people reached a post milestone that the ranks were no longer changing. That’s because that system went away and was replaced. This is all on Invision and changing their philosophy on ranks and tying them to more than just posts. MLPF pays these guys over a grand a year (out of my pocket) and we don’t get a say on vetoing enhancements. 
 

Various elements of activity not earn you points instead of a straight up posts. The interface for this new system is based on creating logic based rules and then I need to rerun a internal script to recalculate. Last night was the first time it picked one of the items up. I’ll be slowly modifying the rules to pick up more things until we have something that better represents were you all were. 
 

New Topics and treated differently than Replies to a topic. They are separate categories. I only ran one to see if this new logic picked anything up. 
 

I’m not done. Look guys, I’m battling a flu, I spent the better part of a three day weekend fighting with this new system instead of out back enjoying grilling and playing with my grandkid. I’m exhausted and I’m testy. Can we please put down the pitchforks until I get this working again.
 

As I run these scripts differently and they come back with higher and higher ranks I’ll keep posting progress here like I did last night. I’ll get it there. Please trust me. 
 

 

[Celli 4,338]

@Jeric Apologies for reacting that way, I didn't know it was out of the staff here's hands. I have massive respect for y'all keeping the site running, and I hope you feel better soon,

4 minutes ago, Jeric said:

As I run these scripts differently and they come back with higher and higher ranks I’ll keep posting progress here like I did last night. I’ll get it there. Please trust me. 

Oh so the current ranks aren't final either? I see.

[Jeric 46,854]

10 minutes ago, Props said:

@Megas

Were you a subscriber in the past? If so, it's interesting how that title stayed. 

Special Ranks like Staff, Subscriber, MCM, and Contest ranks are pulled from a different system. Groups have the ability to have their own rank that supersedes the main rank. I didn’t and am not touching Groups. 

[Jeric 46,854]

Moments ago, Celli said:

@Jeric Apologies for reacting that way, I didn't know it was out of the staff here's hands. I have massive respect for y'all keeping the site running, and I hope you feel better soon,

Oh so the current ranks aren't final either? I see.

Nope not final. Some of the staff will attest that I was uncharacteristically furious at the platform last night. @NavelColt can and others can  confirm. 

[Toastypk 923]

1 hour ago, Illiad Easle said:

I'm more than a little miffed at this change, I was up in the ponies and now I'm all the way back down to Parasprite? I've been here for years (Since 2013) with over 4k posts and over 2k brohoofs,

Oh wow that's quite a change. (Hey I was here since 2012 or 2013, too, btw!)

I'm not fretting about it a major lot since it's just a cosmetic thing, but I was definitely suprised.

Edited September 6, 2022 by Toastypk

[Jeric 46,854]

18 minutes ago, Props said:

@Jeric

So when this is fixed, our ranks will go back to where they should be? And users who didn't have their ranks upgraded, will have theirs be in the right place?

Hopefully. Points based system works a little differently. I’ll detail the differences when I feel like I’m in line with where things should have been. 

[Jeric 46,854]

Update: 

Blank Flanks once again

Last night I added the rule giving every user a point for each new topic made and ran the rebuild. I just added the rule to add a point to comments/replies made as well. Each will award 1 point.That should bring us closer to where would should have been if ranks did not break. Some users should have a large boost because they contribute in areas that post count was turned off. (Congrats to the Count to a Million users). 

When this is done running this will not be the end of the changes. I need to made a few modifications and run it one more time. I will also create a community based poll on if the current community wants to expand the current system. 

[Troblems 5,617]

Don't let him lie to you; Jeric broke it and now we all have to suffer.

[Jeric 46,854]

17 minutes ago, Con Mom said:

Don't let him lie to you; Jeric broke it and now we all have to suffer.

This is what happens when they made a Blank Flank an Admin. 

[Illiad Easle 3,164]

@Jeric

Are the ranks scaled based on who has the most points? Or are the ranks fixed in how many points you need to get from one level to the next?

[Jeric 46,854]

24 minutes ago, Illiad Easle said:

@Jeric

Are the ranks scaled based on who has the most points? Or are the ranks fixed in how many points you need to get from one level to the next?

Fixed to a set number of points. That hasn’t changed 

[Illiad Easle 3,164]

@Jeric

Once you're done getting it working I'd like to know how many points are needed for each rank and how points are earned.

I am something of a computer person if you need help getting it working.

[Jeric 46,854]

This process is going to take a while.