mega thread Everypony's Religion And Why?

[MLPForums Phanact 1,374]

I never said that the fetus was dead nor did I explicitly state the fetus is living either. I said that it is a potential life and nothing more. It has the potential to have a LIFE, not to become living, but to have a life.

 

Also, you may see self-centred whilst I see looking out for my best interests (which is kind of self centered anyway, ah well, I'm generous regarding other things in life). There are sometimes I'd want to put myself first and I don't and won't ever know if this is one of those situations but I believe if my life was in any form of SUBSTANTIAL danger from a pregnancy, I'd terminate it without even thinking twice.

 

Pain, to me, is an important factor in this because it is essentially choosing to inflict pain on that fetus which will have done nothing to deserve pain. If the fetus is causing danger to a woman's life then it should be terminated and if its painless for the fetus, that's a very dark silver lining. Although you could argue that it is a woman's fault for choosing to become pregnant in the first place but I'd still have to disagree with you.

 

I apologise for my assumptions being incorrect. Hey, I technically had a 50/50 chance of getting your political party correct whilst in the UK every person and their mother are in a different bloody party.

Edited July 25, 2013 by Kaz

[--Thunder Bolt-- 534]

What dog?

 

Oh, sorry, that's an American idiom.  I should have realized it might not make sense.  You Eastern Europeans and your perfect English skills.    You can make some of us forget that you're not native English speakers.  "I don't have a dog in that hunt" means that I am not involved in that issue (in this case, whether the Orthodox Church is the most authentic or most "spiritual" Christianity).  In other words, I'm an atheist, so I'll leave it to you Christians to sort that out amongst yourselves.

Edited July 25, 2013 by InvisiblePinkUnicorn

[John 793]

I never said that the fetus was dead nor did I explicitly state the fetus is living either. I said that it is a potential life and nothing more. It has the potential to have a LIFE, not to become living, but to have a life.

It is a life already on its path to living all 60-100 years (in most cases).  If it was not aborted, it would grow up with a change.  You are screwing it out of its chances.

 

Also, you may see self-centred whilst I see looking out for my best interests (which is kind of self centered anyway, ah well, I'm generous regarding other things in life). There are sometimes I'd want to put myself first and I don't and won't ever know if this is one of those situations but I believe if my life was in any form of SUBSTANTIAL danger from a pregnancy, I'd terminate it without even thinking twice.

 

Yes, but your life will 99.5% of the time not be in any type of danger from a pregnancy in the western world, the #1 place where this abhorrent "procedure" is performed

 

 

 

 

Pain, to me, is an important factor in this because it is essentially choosing to inflict pain on that fetus which will have done nothing to deserve pain. If the fetus is causing danger to a woman's life then it should be terminated and if its painless for the fetus, that's a very dark silver lining.

 

There are many more bad things you can do to someone out of the realm of physical "pain."  If you cannot understand this, you are nothing more than an animal.

[MLPForums Phanact 1,374]

I wholly understand that you can mentally torture someone which obviously inflicts mental pain but how would you even do that to a fetus? There's the physiological pain stress you can induce on a fetus but emotional pain is usually only felt by more mature fetuses. (Referencing CL Lowery's 2007 article on fetal pain)

[Serbon div 386]

 

 

has not developed the ability to feel pain

What? Did you talk to fetus before?

 

Abortion is murder, not just any murder, it's regarded as a gift to Molek, which can pretty much in lead to demonic possession. 

[Sunny Fox 5,950]

The argument between certain members regarding the specific issue of abortion has now degraded to the point where I feel I need to remove some of the more colorful posts, and ask that it be brought to an end.

 

The topic of this thread is to discuss what religion you ascribe to and your reasons for doing so, not for making a personal crusade for or against any one particular issue. Word to the wise: if there are any more personal attacks from any member, this thread will be closed entirely. 

Edited July 25, 2013 by Full Spectrum

[John 793]

... ...

 

Ok,

 

I have my religion because I feel like living without a greater purpose in life is living for no reason.  I'm not content with earthly satisfaction;  I need something more to feel fulfilled and truly happy.

 

Personal attack  ---->  Pooooooop.

 

(Above picture only a joke, don't actually keep posting those)

Edited July 26, 2013 by John

[MLPForums Phanact 1,374]

Your argument for having a religion is the same for me having one, but simple reversed. I feel like living with a greater purpose is living for a reason which isn't my own.

I don't want to live my life fearing heaven and hell and purgatory.

Though, in all honesty, you might be right. There might be a God! I don't know. That's my answer to the question of "is there a god?" I don't know! And I am more than happy not knowing if there is or isn't until I die (:

Edit: Mods are asleep. Personally attack others regarding their stance on the Anti/Pro Abortion argument. XD <- That's also a joke.

[--Thunder Bolt-- 534]

You think the mods sleep?  Foolish poneh's.  They.  Are.  Always.  Watching!  <---that is also a joke.

 

IMO, wanting or not wanting something (like a defined purpose in life, etc.) is not a good reason to believe in or not believe in anything.  If deity X exists, it exists whether we wish it did or not.  If it doesn't, it also doesn't, whether we wish it did or not.

[Galen 1,354]

Your argument for having a religion is the same for me having one, but simple reversed. I feel like living with a greater purpose is living for a reason which isn't my own.

 

Exactly. Both when I was a Christian as medium Freedan junior and an agnostic now, I choose to believe there may or may not be a god/creator due to the lack of evidence for or against his/her/its existence. Regardless, what purpose there is to my life is one that I want to make for myself. Even taking the bible into consideration, we're born with a free will. That free will is what allows us to define our own purpose. One can believe in god without having to identify their existence with religious laws.

 

No John, I'm not attacking you. I'm just throwing my two cents out there.

Edited July 26, 2013 by Freedan

[Hansel 1,512]

Everyone's arguing about religion and also about abortion for some reason, and I'm just sitting here, like, thinking about how awesome moths are. 

 

Who needs deities when you have moths to admire? They're so pretty.

 

 

I shall name you Fluttermoth. 

Edited July 26, 2013 by Hansel

[--Thunder Bolt-- 534]

@@Hansel,

 

"Yay!"

 

That.  Is.  Awesome.  I bet she really flutters!   There's one advantage our world has over Equestria: their butterflies are monochrome boredom compared to ours, and I don't even know if they have moths.   Your next assignment: Pinkiemoth!

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

The argument between certain members regarding the specific issue of abortion has now degraded to the point where I feel I need to remove some of the more colorful posts, and ask that it be brought to an end.

 

The topic of this thread is to discuss what religion you ascribe to and your reasons for doing so, not for making a personal crusade for or against any one particular issue. Word to the wise: if there are any more personal attacks from any member, this thread will be closed entirely. 

 

Closing the thread because one or two members have trouble with impulse-control seems a lot like letting one bad apple spoil the bunch.  It might be better for the bunch if the bad apple(s) take a break, if you're that concerned about it permanently damaging the usefulness of the thread.

[Hansel 1,512]

@@Hansel,

 

"Yay!"

 

That.  Is.  Awesome.  I bet she really flutters!   There's one advantage our world has over Equestria: their butterflies are monochrome boredom compared to ours, and I don't even know if they have moths.   Your next assignment: Pinkiemoth!

 

But these moths are exist in our world. *____* And they're not Butterflies, they're better! 

I couldn't find a Pinkiemoth, but I found Twilimoth! 

 

Edited July 26, 2013 by Hansel

[Galen 1,354]

But these moths are exist in our world. *____* And they're not Butterflies, they're better! 

I couldn't find a Pinkiemoth, but I found Twilimoth! 

 

 

They should make a spin off called "My Little Moth" or maybe one episode where pinkie pie has this crazy dream where everyone is a colorful moth

[Sunny Fox 5,950]

As fascinating as moths may be, I would request that we return this thread to it's original topic:

 

What is your religion and why do you ascribe to it?

[Super Derpy 535]

I'm agnostic. Yeah that is about all I have to say on this matter. Ugh i have to put in 50 more characters stupid character limit.

[Crestfallen 27]

I am Buddhist (I haven't been one for long though.) I really just love what Buddhism is all about. As a person with anxiety issues, meditation really helps calm me down. I love how spiritual it is and I know that this route could really help me grow into the kind of person I want to be.

[Thrashy 2,800]

Not sure why the mods decided to lock the repeat thread instead of merging it like normal, but to continue the train of thought:

 

I was really hoping to get a look behind the curtain at what you believe LT-your definition of Satanism is correct and worthy of a hoof-but I'm still wondering what's under those dreads...

 

Haha, that's understandable. I just saw [misinformed comment] and immediately jumped on disproving it, since I studied both Satanism and Wicca extensively for a world mythologies course I had a few semesters back.

 

Me, I'm pretty much like you - I identify as Christian, though I realize that a depressing number of churches promote bigotry in some form or another. The Methodist church of which I'm now a baptized member (though only occasionally do I attend Sunday services) is the best I've been to...our rev has preached nothing but the love of Jesus and tolerating/helping out our fellow man, and that's a message I can definitely get behind.

 

...The "fire and brimstone" denominations can kiss my booty, booty, booty, booty, rockin' everywhere.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Posting what I was going to in the thread that got locked. 

 

Non-denominational Christian, with a touch of random spirituality. You could say I'm a more liberal one because I don't believe in "everything sends you to hell" and my only rules are just don't go out robbing, pillaging, murdering, raping, ect. 

 

Like I said in another thread, "Faith and religion are two different things that aren't always mutually inclusive". 

 

I fully understand that no-one is perfect and we can't do anything more than try our best to be a good person. 

Edited August 22, 2013 by Shoboni

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Wow, I must say I am bit surprised how many atheist bronies there are, adding in agnostics that seems be 330 members on the MLP Forums that have voted as such.

[Thunderchild 875]

Not sure why the mods decided to lock the repeat thread instead of merging it like normal, but to continue the train of thought:

 

 

Haha, that's understandable. I just saw [misinformed comment] and immediately jumped on disproving it, since I studied both Satanism and Wicca extensively for a world mythologies course I had a few semesters back.

 

Me, I'm pretty much like you - I identify as Christian, though I realize that a depressing number of churches promote bigotry in some form or another. The Methodist church of which I'm now a baptized member (though only occasionally do I attend Sunday services) is the best I've been to...our rev has preached nothing but the love of Jesus and tolerating/helping out our fellow man, and that's a message I can definitely get behind.

 

...The "fire and brimstone" denominations can kiss my booty, booty, booty, booty, rockin' everywhere.

I knew it.

...And I couldn't agree more. It's the elitist bullshit that drove me away. Nothing I ever read about Jesus had Him doing anything but loving people-meanwhile the church that's supposed to be His representative on earth does nothing but judge and condemn people.

 

I couldn't reconcile the two things-so I erred on the side of Love thy neighbor. I still read the bible and pray, I just do it on my own instead of with a bunch of hypocrites who say they love God who they haven't seen, but hate their neighbor who they have seen.

 

No way to lose my attention faster than to start telling me what's wrong with everyone else's lives. If I could give you more than 1 Brohoof for that post, you'd be swimming in them. /)

[Denim&Venöm 19,055]

I'd have to say I'm agnostic, but look at the concept of god from a logic based perspective, as not an all seeing & knowing deity of goodness and holiness, but more as a perpetual force of the universe. A creator that looks at every aspect of the universe objectively, every object, every life from, everything, including the human race as indistinguishable from the fabric of creation. We are a super-microscopic part of this universe. What makes us any more important than any other life form or even any inanimate piece of matter? Who are we to place our morals, our sense of right and wrong as that of god's? Who are we to believe that god thinks in the same way we do, that it (why is god a he or a she?) is limited to our perspectives and only those perspectives alone? God is too busy maintaining the whole of creation to scrutinize the lifestyle choices, the beliefs, actions, opinions or destinies of 1 species out of millions, on 1 world out of billions, in 1 galaxy out of trillions, in 1 plane of existence out of a number yet to be fathomed. 

 

So regardless of whether god is real or not, god would still have no basis in my life. My life would still be lived the same way.

Edited August 22, 2013 by Denim&Venom

[Archi the Atmomancer 564]

I'm Jewish because I believe there is a God but I also believe that He's a single being and also don't believe that Jesus was His son (or part of Him for that matter.) I believe Jesus existed but not that he was the son of God.

 

The reason I believe in God is partly because of the universe's existence (Yes, I know about the Big Bang, but where did that come from? How was it caused? Maybe God instigated such an event?) and partly because of the complexity of life (The ecosystem is so finely balanced and our bodies are so complex yet so perfect that perhaps there is some element of outside influence there?)

 

I'm not a militant or anything, thankfully, although I don't approve of people bad-mouthing religion just because they don't believe in it, whether it is Judaism or otherwise.

Edited August 22, 2013 by Archi the Sandworm

[Stoney Pony 100]

WOW! there are alot more Atheist Bronies and pegasisters then i thought, Awesome i thought i was alone. I just see no reason for there to be a god, But really who knows. I also dont think you should impose your religion on anyone. you would not go around imposing your sextuality on people so why religion? know what im saying?