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I'll say "Happy Birthday" to Nicole Oliver tomorrow as she voices Princess Celestia! It's also Washington's birthday tomorrow too! She smiles and grins like this picture! :D

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While rereading the Narnia books, specifically the part where Aslan sacrifices himself to save Edmund in book 2, I came up with an interesting theory for why Celestia lost to Chrysalis at the Canterlot Wedding:

 

She lost on purpose because she wanted Twilight and Cadence to win.

 

Celestia, despite all her power and experience, knows it would be far too risky to have Equestria's defense rest entirely on her shoulders. There need to be others around who can fight on even when she can't.

So that's why she keeps having Twilight and the others face all these threats and monsters that she could face herself. It's a way of training them for the serious situations - where Celestia can't solve it herself for some reason or another.

 

In the first arc of the main IDW comics, we see Twilight fight and defeat Chrysalis by herself. This suggests that Chrysalis isn't really that strong after all - sure, she had been draining Cadence's power for a long time just before the wedding, but would that really be enough to make her stronger than a God-class alicorn who moves the sun around every single day without even sweating? I think not!

 

Plus, the "Fiendship is Magic" comic for Nightmare Moon shows Celestia fighting her in a dream - and winning.

Then in the Season 3 opening duo, there's a flashback where Celestia and Luna fight King Sombra - and win.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure they defeated Tirek as well and sent him to Tartarus back in the pre-Nightmare Moon days.

Also, Chrysalis has a comic in the Fiendship is Magic series as well - where Celestia defeats her so hard, she permanently damages her body and hair. That's where the holes in her legs come from.

And these are just the victories we know about. Who knows what Celestia did in the thousand years when Nightmare Moon was banished?

 

Finally, she says this in "Friends Forever" No. 3:

 

"And yes, sometimes I have let Twilight take care of an incident that I could have cleared away easily. But I do not do this because I am cruel, or because I want to play a joke on Twilight... I do this because I am her teacher, and sometimes, this is how she must learn."

 

So yeah, that settles it for me: Celestia could have defeated Chrysalis at the wedding, but decided to lose and take the risk so that the Mane 6 and Cadence could have a victory. If they had failed, she would have burst out of the cocoon, zapped Chrysalis with a plasma beam, and probably taken on the entire Changeling army by herself.

 

But the gambit played off: Cadence and Shining Armor managed to use the power of love to win.

And later in the Season 4 opener, Celestia and Luna were taken out by the Chaos seeds (I believe this works because the seeds are a creation of Discord, who has such insane reality-warping powers even God-class alicorns can't defeat him in a straight fight). But Twilight was there to work out what was wrong and save the day - so the harsh lessons did pay off (And again in the finales against Tirek and Starlight Glimmer).

 

Yes, this is a bit complicated - and also rather risky. But it's worked so far - all threats have been defeated, and Celestia has her sister and two mortal alicorns (Flurry Heart is too young for this stuff - not gonna count her yet) to help out with any future problems.

 

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Oh, and one last thing: Celestia spent the thousand years of Nightmare Moon's banishment ruling Equestria pretty much by herself (perhaps she created some mortal alicorns who have all died of old age since then, but she was the only God-class), so she must know what she's doing. 

Besides, who am I to judge her actions? She's an immortal pony goddess, and I'm just a kinda-ordinary guy who watches cartoon ponies for fun. She's not even the same species!

 

So what do you think of this idea, fellow Celestia fans? I'm gonna keep it as my headcanon for as long as it is possible - I sure hope it never gets disproven!

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While rereading the Narnia books, specifically the part where Aslan sacrifices himself to save Edmund in book 2, I came up with an interesting theory for why Celestia lost to Chrysalis at the Canterlot Wedding:

 

She lost on purpose because she wanted Twilight and Cadence to win.

 

Celestia, despite all her power and experience, knows it would be far too risky to have Equestria's defense rest entirely on her shoulders. There need to be others around who can fight on even when she can't.

So that's why she keeps having Twilight and the others face all these threats and monsters that she could face herself. It's a way of training them for the serious situations - where Celestia can't solve it herself for some reason or another.

 

In the first arc of the main IDW comics, we see Twilight fight and defeat Chrysalis by herself. This suggests that Chrysalis isn't really that strong after all - sure, she had been draining Cadence's power for a long time just before the wedding, but would that really be enough to make her stronger than a God-class alicorn who moves the sun around every single day without even sweating? I think not!

 

Plus, the "Fiendship is Magic" comic for Nightmare Moon shows Celestia fighting her in a dream - and winning.

Then in the Season 3 opening duo, there's a flashback where Celestia and Luna fight King Sombra - and win.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure they defeated Tirek as well and sent him to Tartarus back in the pre-Nightmare Moon days.

Also, Chrysalis has a comic in the Fiendship is Magic series as well - where Celestia defeats her so hard, she permanently damages her body and hair. That's where the holes in her legs come from.

And these are just the victories we know about. Who knows what Celestia did in the thousand years when Nightmare Moon was banished?

 

Finally, she says this in "Friends Forever" No. 3:

 

 

So yeah, that settles it for me: Celestia could have defeated Chrysalis at the wedding, but decided to lose and take the risk so that the Mane 6 and Cadence could have a victory. If they had failed, she would have burst out of the cocoon, zapped Chrysalis with a plasma beam, and probably taken on the entire Changeling army by herself.

 

But the gambit played off: Cadence and Shining Armor managed to use the power of love to win.

And later in the Season 4 opener, Celestia and Luna were taken out by the Chaos seeds (I believe this works because the seeds are a creation of Discord, who has such insane reality-warping powers even God-class alicorns can't defeat him in a straight fight). But Twilight was there to work out what was wrong and save the day - so the harsh lessons did pay off (And again in the finales against Tirek and Starlight Glimmer).

 

Yes, this is a bit complicated - and also rather risky. But it's worked so far - all threats have been defeated, and Celestia has her sister and two mortal alicorns (Flurry Heart is too young for this stuff - not gonna count her yet) to help out with any future problems.

 

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Oh, and one last thing: Celestia spent the thousand years of Nightmare Moon's banishment ruling Equestria pretty much by herself (perhaps she created some mortal alicorns who have all died of old age since then, but she was the only God-class), so she must know what she's doing. 

Besides, who am I to judge her actions? She's an immortal pony goddess, and I'm just a kinda-ordinary guy who watches cartoon ponies for fun. She's not even the same species!

 

So what do you think of this idea, fellow Celestia fans? I'm gonna keep it as my headcanon for as long as it is possible - I sure hope it never gets disproven!

I like it, but I prefer my headcanon, which is that Celestia has so much power she can't control it once it reaches a certain threshold, i.e. she would utterly annihilate everything if she used too much power. So when she fought Chrysalis she used all of her 'safe' power, then when that wasn't enough, she chose to rely on Twilight and her friends, rather than turn Canterlot Castle to molten lava.

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While rereading the Narnia books, specifically the part where Aslan sacrifices himself to save Edmund in book 2, I came up with an interesting theory for why Celestia lost to Chrysalis at the Canterlot Wedding:

 

She lost on purpose because she wanted Twilight and Cadence to win.

 

Celestia, despite all her power and experience, knows it would be far too risky to have Equestria's defense rest entirely on her shoulders. There need to be others around who can fight on even when she can't.

So that's why she keeps having Twilight and the others face all these threats and monsters that she could face herself. It's a way of training them for the serious situations - where Celestia can't solve it herself for some reason or another.

 

In the first arc of the main IDW comics, we see Twilight fight and defeat Chrysalis by herself. This suggests that Chrysalis isn't really that strong after all - sure, she had been draining Cadence's power for a long time just before the wedding, but would that really be enough to make her stronger than a God-class alicorn who moves the sun around every single day without even sweating? I think not!

 

Plus, the "Fiendship is Magic" comic for Nightmare Moon shows Celestia fighting her in a dream - and winning.

Then in the Season 3 opening duo, there's a flashback where Celestia and Luna fight King Sombra - and win.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure they defeated Tirek as well and sent him to Tartarus back in the pre-Nightmare Moon days.

Also, Chrysalis has a comic in the Fiendship is Magic series as well - where Celestia defeats her so hard, she permanently damages her body and hair. That's where the holes in her legs come from.

And these are just the victories we know about. Who knows what Celestia did in the thousand years when Nightmare Moon was banished?

 

Finally, she says this in "Friends Forever" No. 3:

 

 

So yeah, that settles it for me: Celestia could have defeated Chrysalis at the wedding, but decided to lose and take the risk so that the Mane 6 and Cadence could have a victory. If they had failed, she would have burst out of the cocoon, zapped Chrysalis with a plasma beam, and probably taken on the entire Changeling army by herself.

 

But the gambit played off: Cadence and Shining Armor managed to use the power of love to win.

And later in the Season 4 opener, Celestia and Luna were taken out by the Chaos seeds (I believe this works because the seeds are a creation of Discord, who has such insane reality-warping powers even God-class alicorns can't defeat him in a straight fight). But Twilight was there to work out what was wrong and save the day - so the harsh lessons did pay off (And again in the finales against Tirek and Starlight Glimmer).

 

Yes, this is a bit complicated - and also rather risky. But it's worked so far - all threats have been defeated, and Celestia has her sister and two mortal alicorns (Flurry Heart is too young for this stuff - not gonna count her yet) to help out with any future problems.

 

sig-4424710.not_alone_anymore_by_silfoe-

 

Oh, and one last thing: Celestia spent the thousand years of Nightmare Moon's banishment ruling Equestria pretty much by herself (perhaps she created some mortal alicorns who have all died of old age since then, but she was the only God-class), so she must know what she's doing. 

Besides, who am I to judge her actions? She's an immortal pony goddess, and I'm just a kinda-ordinary guy who watches cartoon ponies for fun. She's not even the same species!

 

So what do you think of this idea, fellow Celestia fans? I'm gonna keep it as my headcanon for as long as it is possible - I sure hope it never gets disproven!

 

 

OMG This picture is so amazing. Love Princess Celestia and Nightmare Moon :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:

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