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I hate that the existence and prevalence of Mary Sues drives so many people to assume that most OCs are Mary Sues, that people will rip your OC without even knowing anything because of this bigotry, for lack of a better term. It really gives us Bronies, OC artists, and fanfic writers a bad name and exposes a sense of elitism and hypocrisy when the same people hold this feeling toward OCs that actually have potential while worshipping others like Sibsy's Wild Fire or any other popular ones I might be missing.

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Don't rag on people for them unless they're ignorant and refuse to take advice on how to make them better

 

And do tell me which Mary Sues are likable because they make horrible plot devices. Don't being up Superman, by definition, a Mary Sue is someone with no flaws(or adorable flaws) who never faces any challenges and if they do, resolve them in seconds

 

Oh my god. Another person who knows Superman isn't a Mary Sue! You don't find those too often, unfortunately.

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They are terrible most of the time. If they are somehow good and contribute something positive to a roleplay, I believe that disqualifies them from being a Mary Sue.


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Yes and no. Twilight us a Mary Sue insofar as a lot of the personality of the creator probably went into her, but she was professional enough not to make her perfect.

 

What are you talking about!? You just said she wasn't perfect and faces challenges created by the world around her, that makes her ineligible for the title of Mary Sue by definition. It has nothing to do with the creator's personality being used as a stand-in.

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"No matter how many times others tell you you're great, all the praise in the world means nothing if you don't feel it inside.......Sometimes to feel good about yourself, you gotta let go of the past. That way, when the time comes to let your greatness fly, you'll be able to light up the whole sky." -Cathy Weseluck as Spike 

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They're just not fun to read about, or roleplay with, or anything really :/


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This thread appears to be related to the My Little Pony franchise and/or the Bronydom in general. Thus, it has been sentenced to Sugarcube Corner.

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Oh my god. Another person who knows Superman isn't a Mary Sue! You don't find those too often, unfortunately.

You're welcome. If he were a Mary Sue, this wouldn't happen to him

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I don't know how to put this in a way that doesnt make me sound dumb, so I'm just gonna say it. What the fuck....is a damn "Mary Sue"?!


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@@Shenron00,

A flawless character who is never challenged. It is sometimes tossed around to mean an OP character, but this is BS. People usually use it to describe characters they don't like now (Twilicorn). but the true meaning is my first sentence 

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@@Shenron00,

A flawless character who is never challenged. It is sometimes tossed around to mean an OP character, but this is BS. People usually use it to describe characters they don't like now (Twilicorn). but the true meaning is my first sentence

So, basically an OP character with absolutely no weaknesses? Got it. Wait, does it have to be absolutely no weaknesses, or can it be just very few? If it's just very few, then I know a certain character who just so happens.....

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@@Shenron00,

No, Superman doesn't count because he is constantly challenged, by himself and other people. And flaws, not weaknesses. Mary Sues can have flaws, but they can't interfere with them and/or they will be cute(tripping into lover's arms) 


"Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood

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@@Shenron00,

No, Superman doesn't count because he is constantly challenged, by himself and other people. And flaws, not weaknesses. Mary Sues can have flaws, but they can't interfere with them and/or they will be cute(tripping into lover's arms)

Did I say Superman? Let's ask Big Mac.

BM: Eenope.

There you have it! Seriously though, I wasn't thinking of Supes. I like the Superman franchise (although they can get a bit unoriginal at times), and I can't wait for the next Man of Steel. I was just trying to be funny, and make people wonder who I was thinking of. I swear that's all that happened!

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Who were you thinking of then? Celestia? 


"Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood

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@@Shenron00,

Who were you thinking of then? Celestia?

Didn't you get what the last part of the post said? I meant that I wasn't thinking of anybody. I was trying to be funny, and make a few people wonder who I was thinking about.

Yo! I'm Shenron00, but you can call me “Shen” if you want!

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@@Shenron00,

I read it, I get it now. Sorry, tone doesn't go too well over the internet. My bad 


"Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood

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@@Shenron00,

I read it, I get it now. Sorry, tone doesn't go too well over the internet. My bad

Dun worry. I know that feel bro. It happens to me ALL the time.
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Yo! I'm Shenron00, but you can call me “Shen” if you want!

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Thanks to WheatleyCore for the sig! BTW, yes, I do realize that's Carnage and not Shenron.

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>mfw people try to justify the fact that their OC is an alicorn

 

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(I'm implying that most, if not all, alicorn OCs are Mary Sues.)

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I've found someone in the fandom who seems to do a good job at looking at mary sues: 

 

Also, I find them terrible when it falls along the lines of this person's bit, as legitimate challenges and stakes are where I draw a lot of interest from plots/stories/settings.

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Is this supposed to be a trick question?
I can't think of a time EVER that a Mary Sue wasn't terrible.  MLP or not.

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You're welcome. If he were a Mary Sue, this wouldn't happen to him

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Indeed; however, Superman did set a new defenition for Mary Sue/Gary Stu, when Superman Prime showed up. There's a reason he was used like once or twice.


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>mfw people try to justify the fact that their OC is an alicorn

 

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(I'm implying that most, if not all, alicorn OCs are Mary Sues.)

well im pretty sure most people have alicorn ocs like that is because their job is to control things


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A Mary Sue is terrible by definition; if you can create interesting stories about your powerful character, it isn't a Mary Sue.


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