What will you do if the ponies stands against Celestia?

[PROJECT: Simon 3,953]

What will you do if ponies stands against the princesses because they're using ponies as slaves.?

 

Will you stand against with the ponies? Or will you protect the princesses (Luna, Celestia, Cadence and Twilight) from harm no matter what?

 

Me? I have no idea what to do. 

Edited November 7, 2014 by BronyAssassin

[Odyssey 5,713]

Hmm, I'm not sure what to say. The problem with this is you haven't given a good reason why ponies are standing against Princess Celestia. I'm not saying you hate her, but isn't it kind of strange to turn against Tia for no reason? Is Tia a tyrant in this scenario? Why are the ponies against her? What about Luna? All of these questions are essential to your question, otherwise I wouldn't take either side.

 

EDIT: I didn't realise you edited your post and given reasons on why the ponies should stand against the Princesses. You should've told me about this...

 

But anyways, I wouldn't take either side. I don't want to protect the Princesses, yet I don't want to turn my back against them. If anything, I would find some kind of solution that can help both sides, like the Elements of Harmony.

Edited November 8, 2014 by Mienshao

[VitalSpark 1,830]

I can't imagine Twilight in particular taking sides against Celestia unless Celestia had done something pretty bad. In which case I'd be on Twilight's side.

 

Come to think of it, I'd always be on Twilight's side.

[ThatOneComrade 1,091]

Well, that depends on the reason why they're doing it. I'd protect the primcesses, but if the ponies' reasoning is some really good stuff I might waver on my stance.

[Dewdlz 938]

First, I would let Twilight know since she's more knowledgeable than I am. At the same time I would protect Luna and only her, trying to persuade them to stop slavery and come up with a new solution. If they are being forced to work without pay, it's simply not right. If they are working on their own free will as an act of charity, that's an entirely different story. Why Luna you may ask? *points to avatar* that's why.

[PROJECT: Simon 3,953]

First, I would let Twilight know since she's more knowledgeable than I am. At the same time I would protect Luna and only her, trying to persuade them to stop slavery and come up with a new solution. If they are being forced to work without pay, it's simply not right. If they are working on their own free will as an act of charity, that's an entirely different story. Why Luna you may ask? *points to avatar* that's why.

Coffee eh? Someone bring starbucks! Its the only way to strike Luna!

[Dewdlz 938]

Coffee eh? Someone bring starbucks! Its the only way to strike Luna!

My life for the Lunar Princess, you shall not touch her while I still stand.

[Nohbdy 4,108]

Moved to Sugarcube Corner, as this is a hypothetical scenario within the My Little Pony universe.

 

If the princesses were using the ponies as slaves, according to the OP? I'd stand with the ponies, of course. I don't imagine I'd like being ruled by a class of super-beings in the first place, doubly so if they're now using their power for evil. Perfect opportunity to stage a coup against the despotic rulers of Equestria, and free the working ponies from the oppression of the ruling class. Of course, that won't be the end of it. Oh, no, far from.

 

This scenario reminds me of the October Revolution, which incidentally happened today in 1917. While it wasn't the original revolution that toppled the Czar's rule, it did establish the Soviet Union. I imagine that the ponies, after being subjected to this kind of oppression, would opt for a more egalitarian society in the hope that such abuse of power can never happen again. But how will this society play out? Well, I suppose that'd depend on your view of human--or, in this case, pony--nature.

 

Best case scenario, we get a peaceful, progressive, and democratic society that embodies the best of pony nature. Perhaps we'd see a return to the near-utopian society that we observe in the actual show--perhaps even better, now that we have less dependence on the abilities of god-monarchs and more on the abilities of the citizenry. We may even see scientific, cultural, and industrial revolutions as a result.

 

Worst case, we may get an Orwellian dystopia akin to that of the real-life Soviet Union: one group seizes power and replaces the deposed rulers as the new despots. This could happen either quickly, or gradually. Perhaps we may initially see hope of a utopia, but this may slide slowly, but surely toward dystopia. We may see a formally established caste system: unicorns at the top, followed by pegasi, and finally the earth ponies. Perhaps we may even see a return to the magocratic despotism of the alicorn regime. All ponies are equal, but some ponies are more equal than others.

 

Yet, neither of these scenarios will likely occur. These ponies were slaves. For how long, though? What kind of education do they have? Given that the monarchy has been in power for millennia, how well developed is Equestrian political philosophy? They have none of the historical references that we have, as far as we know. If they're anything like humans, they will make the same mistakes as we did in history. On the other hand, if they're as great as we'd like to believe (from seeing them in the show), I imagine that they'd fare much better. And, while the pessimist in me screams that they'll make the same mistakes as we do, the optimist in me would like to believe otherwise.

 

The realist in me, ultimately, sees something in between happening. We know that Equestrian society, even in the show, isn't perfect. We don't see wars or crime, but we do know that malice, fear, and prejudice exist. We've seen the likes of Diamond Tiara, and we've seen how the ponies initially reacted to Zecora. We also know that King Sombra was a pony just like the others, but he was undeniably evil (in fact, he did what the princesses did in this scenario). We know that they're imperfect. Fallible. Prone to mistakes. Capable of evil. Especially in this dark, twisted version of Equestria.

 

Taking all of these together, we can expect troubling times for Equestria. Building the perfect society is no easy task. It could take decades or more before even the semblance of democracy can be established--and even then, injustice will continue to exist. There may be conflicts over opposing ideologies, races, and even talents. But I like to think that the ponies will eventually find a way to construct a happy, prosperous civilization. We know from history that evolution, not revolution, produces progress. In the end, it may all be worth the struggles.

 

That is, of course, if the ponies succeed in destroying the alicorn regime in the first place, and that the Czarists princesses don't simply crush the revolution. x)

[Mr Underhill 219]

Well... for starters, I'd like to find out what caused this major shift in The Princess's alignment to go against harmony and enslave their subjects.

Suspect #1 Discord, #2 Sombra. Or perhaps, Discord possessed by the spirit of Sombra? 

 

Such a radical shift could only be caused by powerful magic. (Elements of Chaos?)

 

I also doubt that the Mane 6 would be affected...

[Jack Dirt 81]

Hmm, I'm not sure what to say. The problem with this is you haven't given a good reason why ponies are standing against Princess Celestia. I'm not saying you hate her, but isn't it kind of strange to turn against Tia for no reason? Is Tia a tyrant in this scenario? Why are the ponies against her? What about Luna? All of these questions are essential to your question, otherwise I wouldn't take either side.

You have a point. Another question is: "Is it a good idea?" I mean, Tia is pretty powerful so it would be hard to fight an Alicorn like that. Even though Twilight is an Alicorn, Celestia is much more powerful.

[Spectral12 6]

I'd stand with the Princesses they are might be doing acts against harmony but they would have their reasons  

 

[Horsy 193]

I'd stand with the princesses because they are the only protection for the ponies and have saved their lives many times. It would be selfish and stupid to wish harm to any princess. I can't imagine how or why the alicorns would use them as slaves anyways. Also, Twilight is best pony so I will not go against her, never.

[Fractured 2,683]

It'd be so out of character for Celestia and Twilight, and so contradictory for Cadence (not really likely even for Luna), that i'd have to assume the alicorns had a good enough reason to justify doing so. It's also unnecessary in practically any situation; there's no real benefit to owning slaves, since they already have everything a dictator could possibly want, with the benefit of having the people love them. The ponies that continually risk their lives for their own people aren't just going to suddenly pull a Hans and turn out to be evil sociopaths. More than likely:

 

They're affected by dark magic(of course!)

The elements of harmony have taken over and are attempting to assert order(Every. Fanfic. Ever.)
They're attempting to stave off an appending apocalypse by getting ponies to do something they would never do under normal circumstances.(At which point, it would be one alicorn, because Celestia would never allow the others to take the blame for that.)

 

Those are about the only three logical reasons for something like this. Absent the first two cases(which are outside of their control anyway), I would always side with the princesses.

Edited November 7, 2014 by Shimmer5000

[Deathstroke 1,564]

I think i'll turn into an Arabic assassin, give me money and i'll work for ya 

[Invincible 2,090]

Id fight. There is little point defending an immortal tyrant. Good at defending a dictator or not, there is no future in it, sooner or later i will outlive my usefulness and wilt, while the desire for freedom will burn stronger. No matter how many it will take, they will come.

[Pinkamena-Pills 6,838]

Im obviously standing on whatever side Pinkie is on. So i guess im against the princesses, tho, this scenario makes no sense anyways, as it's so out of character, that they would have to be being control by some *insert dark powers* for this to occur. Mainly because, honestly, the princesses could probably just ask anypony to do whatever they want, and they'd likely do it anyways, no need for "slaves". 

[Everleaf 541]

Well this depends on how you mean this...if ponies were (used) as guards or others by that line I would protect the Princesses on the other hoof if ponies would be used as SLAVES I would more or less fight for the ponies!

 

though I may still stand partly up to the Princesses as we for one do not know their reasoning and yet they have protecting Equestria for more than 1000 years, and I would learn to respect this

 

but would I TRUST the Princesses if so this was true

 

I would say NO I would lose a lot of trust with Equestrian royalty

 

however I cannot see them doing this without reason, there at least must be one reason that they are doing this, and in that a fair one,

 

come to think of it I would pretty much stand for the Princesses I cannot do harm to the ones who protected Equestria for thousands of years and though I believe they are going though a wrong-doing I cannot consider them bad ponies but any extent

 

  when you refer to Celestia do you mean all of Equestrian royalty or just her alone

 

if just her I have no right to turn away from the other Princesses considering they did nothing wrong

 

in that I would not (turn) on any Equestrian royalty so it is quite clear I would likely stand up for the Princesses.

[ShintX 180]

Its probably some evil enchantment. Celestia is the most caring and kind hearted guardian of Equestria. They would figure out how to help Celestia, just as Celestia helps them

Edited November 8, 2014 by ShintX

[PROJECT: Simon 3,953]

Moved to Sugarcube Corner, as this is a hypothetical scenario within the My Little Pony universe.

 

If the princesses were using the ponies as slaves, according to the OP? I'd stand with the ponies, of course. I don't imagine I'd like being ruled by a class of super-beings in the first place, doubly so if they're now using their power for evil. Perfect opportunity to stage a coup against the despotic rulers of Equestria, and free the working ponies from the oppression of the ruling class. Of course, that won't be the end of it. Oh, no, far from.

 

This scenario reminds me of the October Revolution, which incidentally happened today in 1917. While it wasn't the original revolution that toppled the Czar's rule, it did establish the Soviet Union. I imagine that the ponies, after being subjected to this kind of oppression, would opt for a more egalitarian society in the hope that such abuse of power can never happen again. But how will this society play out? Well, I suppose that'd depend on your view of human--or, in this case, pony--nature.

 

Best case scenario, we get a peaceful, progressive, and democratic society that embodies the best of pony nature. Perhaps we'd see a return to the near-utopian society that we observe in the actual show--perhaps even better, now that we have less dependence on the abilities of god-monarchs and more on the abilities of the citizenry. We may even see scientific, cultural, and industrial revolutions as a result.

 

Worst case, we may get an Orwellian dystopia akin to that of the real-life Soviet Union: one group seizes power and replaces the deposed rulers as the new despots. This could happen either quickly, or gradually. Perhaps we may initially see hope of a utopia, but this may slide slowly, but surely toward dystopia. We may see a formally established caste system: unicorns at the top, followed by pegasi, and finally the earth ponies. Perhaps we may even see a return to the magocratic despotism of the alicorn regime. All ponies are equal, but some ponies are more equal than others.

 

Yet, neither of these scenarios will likely occur. These ponies were slaves. For how long, though? What kind of education do they have? Given that the monarchy has been in power for millennia, how well developed is Equestrian political philosophy? They have none of the historical references that we have, as far as we know. If they're anything like humans, they will make the same mistakes as we did in history. On the other hand, if they're as great as we'd like to believe (from seeing them in the show), I imagine that they'd fare much better. And, while the pessimist in me screams that they'll make the same mistakes as we do, the optimist in me would like to believe otherwise.

 

The realist in me, ultimately, sees something in between happening. We know that Equestrian society, even in the show, isn't perfect. We don't see wars or crime, but we do know that malice, fear, and prejudice exist. We've seen the likes of Diamond Tiara, and we've seen how the ponies initially reacted to Zecora. We also know that King Sombra was a pony just like the others, but he was undeniably evil (in fact, he did what the princesses did in this scenario). We know that they're imperfect. Fallible. Prone to mistakes. Capable of evil. Especially in this dark, twisted version of Equestria.

 

Taking all of these together, we can expect troubling times for Equestria. Building the perfect society is no easy task. It could take decades or more before even the semblance of democracy can be established--and even then, injustice will continue to exist. There may be conflicts over opposing ideologies, races, and even talents. But I like to think that the ponies will eventually find a way to construct a happy, prosperous civilization. We know from history that evolution, not revolution, produces progress. In the end, it may all be worth the struggles.

 

That is, of course, if the ponies succeed in destroying the alicorn regime in the first place, and that the Czarists princesses don't simply crush the revolution. x)

Edited post eh. Such long paragraph mate

[ShadowPirateX 600]

I'd side with the princesses. It's not in their nature to be evil and it wouldn't make sense for them, to willingly turn evil all of a sudden, so they probably have their reasons to punish their people.

 

If they became evil due to an outside force, on the other hand, I'd sit back and watch as the Mane 6 solved everything in a 2-parter episode.

[Starshine 16,330]

Me? I'll fetch a popcorn and my plush seat, then enjoy the show while rooting for the tyrants

[IJoinedForPonies 124]

What will you do if ponies stands against the princesses because they're using ponies as slaves.?

 

Will you stand against with the ponies? Or will you protect the princesses (Luna, Celestia, Cadence and Twilight) from harm no matter what?

 

Me? I have no idea what to do. 

 

The Ponies are not confined to live within the law of Equestria, if they feel used, they can relocate elsewhere. Plus they would have to provide physical evidence to even get my attention on the matter.

[ManalotoM 4]

I'd follow twilight because for some reason, she always knows what to do lol

[Stone Cold Applejack 381]

Grab a hunting rifle, a machete gladius, and some grenades and try my best to become vilified by the Legi- I mean stop the princesses.

 

(You get that reference I made)

[Adorkable 2,737]

Ah, I would stand with Twilight. Best pony gets all my love, bring on the horde.