music When gutteral growl/speaking and yelling is in music

[ManaMinori 4,149]

Does it really "feel" like music, to anyone?

[Elysia 269]

I'm listening to of mice and men right now and I'm head banging along with it

[Throwaway19573639385 764]

Growling and grunting is just a specific style of singing, it conveys certain emotions just like any style of singing. Since everyone's got their own taste it's usually a hit or miss for people. I really like metal and a big part of thing is growls which means for me not only does it sound like music, it also feels like music.

[ManaMinori 4,149]

What's the point, though, if you can't even understand any of the words because incorherent animal growling and banshee screeching?

[IronM17 5,819]

Does rap feel like really music or singing? Everybody has different styles of music who he likes. For me, growling or screaming is music and perfect for brutal or dark metal songs. 

[Denim&Venöm 20,471]

There are times when normal singing and speaking just does not convey the right emotions. Sometimes to get intensity, aggression, anger, sorrow, and pain out there, you have to sound the part. And little gets anger more across than screaming at the listener. You lyrics can be angry. Your overall sound, aggressive. But at best, you sound like your trying to get a gang chant going. At worst, you sound like a whiny brat.  Very rarely does growling and screaming in songs sound disingenuous. 

 

It also accentuates other portions of the song. That solo sounds crisper. That blast beat more intense. The bass more thunderous. Throw in a clean vocal and both benefit. The growl sounds harsher, while the clean vocal sounds more angelic. It's contrast. The other shines better with the presence of it's opposite.

 

Darkness without light is an abyss. Light without darkness is blinding. Only when both are present can the world be seen.  

It feels like music cause the energy, intensity, and passion, the dexterity, complexity & musicianship, are all there. And all that growling and screaming, is the way we ourselves often times feel at towards the world. The frontmen roaring like crazy, are saying the things we want to say, the way we want to say them. 

Edited January 27, 2016 by Denim&Venom

[simba86 1,541]

i can't stand music that has people screaming at the top of their lungs and just screaching like a banshee,

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,164]

What's the point, though, if you can't even understand any of the words because incorherent animal growling and banshee screeching?

 

It just depends on how much you want to invest effort into that style of music. I listen to a number of metal bands, and some like Therion feature such vocals here and there. There's nothing wrong with looking up lyrics and going from there. If the song particularly catches your interest then you should be able to sing right along.

[SilyGeny 369]

There are times when normal singing and speaking just does not convey the right emotions. Sometimes to get intensity, aggression, anger, sorrow, and pain out there, you have to sound the part. And little gets anger more across than screaming at the listener. You lyrics can be angry. Your overall sound, aggressive. But at best, you sound like your trying to get a gang chant going. At worst, you sound like a whiny brat.  Very rarely does growling and screaming in songs sound disingenuous. 

 

It also accentuates other portions of the song. That solo sounds crisper. That blast beat more intense. The bass more thunderous. Throw in a clean vocal and both benefit. The growl sounds harsher, while the clean vocal sounds more angelic. It's contrast. The other shines better with the presence of it's opposite.

 

Darkness without light is an abyss. Light without darkness is blinding. Only when both are present can the world be seen.  

 

It feels like music cause the energy, intensity, and passion, the dexterity, complexity & musicianship, are all there. And all that growling and screaming, is the way we ourselves often times feel at towards the world. The frontmen roaring like crazy, are saying the things we want to say, the way we want to say them. 

 

I can only agree with this, everything was said there tbh.

[Verily British 145]

It really depends on the type of band and genre you're listening to. As Denim&Venom said above, sometime a more guttural, aggressive growling is just what a song needs to get a point across.

 

Then, of course, you have Brutal Death Metal, Tech Death and other such genres where the lyrics are, generally, entirely unimportant. Due to the fact that many artists in mainstream media focus on the lyrics and vocals first, everything else second, people tend to only listen to a song for its vocals. So when they stumble across bands like Cannibal Corpse, they instantly dislike it because they haven't a clue what they're saying.

 

The best way to look at such singing styles is not to view the vocals as something apart from the music, think of the vocals as another instrument. To be played along with the rest to create an amazing sound.

 

(By-the-by, I'm not saying that BDM can't have meaningful lyrics, I'm simply stating that regardless of if they do or not the music will sound awesome either way.)

[Throwaway19573639385 764]

What's the point, though, if you can't even understand any of the words because incorherent animal growling and banshee screeching?

Just because you don't understand any of the lyrics doesn't mean everyone else can't. Most people who listen to metal can understand them just fine. Even if the lyrics are sometimes hard to follow, lyrics aren't everything.

 

Metal is just a style of music and growling a style of singing. When it comes down to music, or just about anything for that matter, it's best not to overthink on why you don't like something or why others like the things you specifically don't like. There's nothing to understand there and nothing to gain from understanding someone's preference for something, so it's just best to listen to the bands you like and ignore what you don't want to listen to.

[SquipyCheetah 449]

I actually love it. People I know, mainly my parents, think I'm weird for that.

[Rarity Is Best Pony 634]

I see it as music just as much as any other style of singing. That said I'm a little biased seeing as how I love metal.

[Envy 6,405]

I'm not going to say it isn't music, but I am going to say that it completely and totally ruins any music that it's done in for me.

[Sonic Shimmer 4,138]

The best way to look at such singing styles is not to view the vocals as something apart from the music, think of the vocals as another instrument. To be played along with the rest to create an amazing sound.

 

This sums it up perfectly.

 

A lot of the bands I like have growled or shrieked vocals. I'll admit it put me off at first but after listening to a few death metal songs I came to regard the harsh vocals as a perfect accompaniment to the style of music.

 

I personally don't find the lyrics to be that important but it's generally easy to find them if you're curious.

[Solid 1,327]

Are you talking about bubblegum pop?

[Lisa 5,553]

I'm not really a fan of growling/screaming stuff, but it's a method of conveying emotion, which is what music is all about. So therefore, whether you feel like it is or not, it is music.

[Spark Thunderbass 1,712]

I have no problem with growling/screaming in music, it basically depends on whenever it's done right or not.

[Codelyy 1,289]

@@Nightmare Muffin. Hey there. As the subject of your topic refers to music, I'm moving it to the media discussion forum .

[Discordian 6,021]

What's the point, though, if you can't even understand any of the words because incorherent animal growling and banshee screeching?

That assumes that everyone who listens to music cares about the lyrics in the first place or considers it a significant part of music.

 

There are many vocal styles out there and growling matches some genres better than clean vocals. Can you honestly tell me a song about the aggressiveness of pirates or the horrors of a demon possession would be properly conveyed with a namby-pamby clean vocalist? Those aren't the only things such vocals are used for, just an example.

 

And if nothing else there are websites out there dedicated to making the lyrics of a song known. You can just as easily read them.

 

On a personal note, I can barely understand clean vocalists either so to me it's all the same and vocals are more or less another instrument. Listening to metal with a lute instead of an electric guitar would make for a strange, possibly horrid, match up. Make no mistake, there's metal without growling vocals but the other instruments are tailored to match those vocals. The kind of music that uses growls wouldn't be even remotely the same without them.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,306]

Though I'm fondest of instrumental works, vocals can easily make or break a piece of music for me.  I probably wouldn't care for most songs that feature unintelligible Cookie Monster vocals, but, considering my interest in the likes of Rob Zombie and Rammstein (I don't understand German anyhow) in the past, I'm not always opposed to relatively guttural and / or incomprehensible singing.  I'm never entirely sure of what the hell Bob Dylan is saying, and that's done nothing to detract from my enjoyment of his music.  But if the vocals manage to be grating the best instrumentation in the world won't keep me listening.