What do you think about Donald Trump?

[Member Berry 1,217]

At least South Park is making this funny.

 

"Fuck them all to death!"

[JonasDarkmane 19,785]

who were never really oppressed in the first place.  Trump's America is already here; though I guess it really was here all along.  No, you aren't automatically a racist, sexist, or homophobe if you supported Trump

 

 

Not quite true though. Already, we are seeing a surge of violence across the US regarding what went down on Wednesday. While I am willing to believe that people from both sides are committing these violence, so far I have only seen anti-Trump people do such things. Videos, not fit for these forums, are already emerging of people attacking other people, a person being attacked near his car, while the people that are filming are laughing and calling "You voted Trump". 

 

So I would not really say that they never were oppressed. 

 

There is a lot of uncertainty and confusion in the air and both sides need to calm down. 

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,302]

so far I have only seen anti-Trump people do such things.

I saw several examples from Trump supporters just on my Facebook feed alone.  I didn't post the pictures I saw of a swastika, hate speech in the form of vandalism (a black woman's car was selected), or a message condemning gay people to hell that were all recently perpetrated by Trump supporters.  I wouldn't condone this sort of behavior or violence no matter who was responsible, but Trump needs to do the first remotely presidential-seeming thing he's ever done and outright condemn this kind of shit.

 

There is a lot of uncertainty and confusion in the air and both sides need to calm down.

This is what a Trump presidency looks like, and the guy hasn't even been sworn in yet.

Edited November 10, 2016 by Ziggy + Angel + Rain

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,494]

So I have been doing some info digging on what Trump wants to do with his horrid presidency. Turns out, there are articles explaining what he hopes to achieve in just 100 days within his presidency. Take a look. I am posting this as it is reasoning to my hatred increasing so much more for this madman.

 

Taken directly from the article:

"During the campaign, Trump frequently pointed to the tasks he wishes to accomplish on his first day in the Oval Office.

Laying out the aims of his administration, Trump said he will “repeal and replace ‘Obamacare,’” “immediately suspend the admission of Syrian refugees,” “order a review of every single regulation issued over the last eight years,” “begin lifting all regulations that are hurting our workers and our businesses,” “terminate every single unconstitutional executive order signed by President Obama,” “restore the rule of law to our land,” “begin implementing plans for construction of a wall along our southern border” and “get rid of” international gangs of thugs and drug cartels — all on his first day."

 

That is just the first goddamn day. I have never looked into Obamacare extensively so whatever, but immediately suspend Syrian refugees? Seriously? People fleeing from a terrorist group that WE are doing a fucking piss poor job in fighting? Hell, we 'accidentally' bombed friendly Syrian forces once and that lead to an ISIS victory. Yet any of the people there want to come here and escape, nah, fuck you. Then he wants to terminate 'unconstitutional orders' made by Obama. Curious on what this could be. With the piece of shit Mike Pence at his side, this is a scary idea. And of course, there is his absolutely brain dead wall idea in hopes of elimination drug cartels. Yes, because a simple wall will do that. Totally. /s

 

Another part form the article:

“We don’t win on trade” was a frequent refrain heard at Trump rallies, and in response, the real estate mogul has said he will renegotiate NAFTA and withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership. He said he will direct his secretary of the treasury to pursue action against Chinese currency manipulation.

Trump has said he will renegotiate the Iran nuclear deal, call a NATO summit to update the organization’s mission and rebalance members’ “financial commitments,” cancel payments to the United Nations’ climate-change programs and divert that money to domestic infrastructure improvement.

The Republican has vowed to increase investment in the nation’s military and be “unpredictable” when it comes to fighting ISIS in the Middle East. On the campaign trail, he frequently criticized Obama for announcing military actions before their commencement."

 

This is a doozy. I mean, wow. First, he basically wants to destroy trade with other nations I guess. How in the hell he thinks this will help the economy is far beyond me. Then, he wants to cancel funding to Climate change programs, because I guess global warming isn't real after all, according to him. What will he do with that money then? Oh, just INCREASE military spending. Seriously?! That is his idea? He wants to cut funding to climate change programs but he wants to throw more money into our military, the military that is currently doing a shitty job in Syria. Yay. And this is all within his first 100 days!!!

 

The reason I am posting all of this is because I didn't even need anymore reasons to hate this guy. Yet, here are more reasons. Wonderful. This is going to be an absolute nightmare over the next 4 years.

 

[JonasDarkmane 19,785]

I saw several examples from Trump supporters just on my Facebook feed alone.  I didn't post the pictures I saw of a swastika, hate speech in the form of vandalism (a black woman's car was selected), or a message condemning gay people to hell that were all recently perpetrated by Trump supporters.  I wouldn't condone this sort of behavior or violence no matter who was responsible, but Trump needs to do the first remotely presidential-seeming thing he's ever done and outright condemn this kind of shit.

 

 

This is what a Trump presidency looks like, and the guy hasn't even been sworn in yet.

Condemnation on the behavior on both sides and a call for peace is needed, yes.

 

And I do not believe the confusion comes from Trump himself, but rather from the polls that were portrayed to be in Clinton's favor by nearly every major media newsoutlet.

[Invincible 2,091]

Not an American, and i was hoping he would be elected, though I didn't expect him to. Why? I'm curious. The electee persona trump is loud, boisterous, and not afraid to speak his mind, even though he's kind of an idiot. I want to see what president Trump is like. This is free entertainment

 

Seriously, I just admire his directness, even if I don't particularly care for his agenda.

[CT-1138 3,182]

Name a foreign leader that would start a scorched earth war because someone in another country said mean things about them.

That's what makes this so scary. Donald Trump IS that leader. Seriously, the man can be goaded into a rage storm by a single tweet. 

[CheeryFox 23,821]

The man spews garbage. I am so embarrassed to call him president. He's a silver spoon fed buffoon - a clown - a joke. I can see why people want to flee here and my gratitude to those who're paying for someone else's passport fees. <3

[TBD 17,254]

"It the end of the world as we know it,  and I feel fine"  

 

 

There are far worse leaders in the world than that man. At least our system isn't run by monarchy or dictatorship, where "one to rules them all."  We should stop exaggerating and save  it for when something actually DID happen.

Edited November 10, 2016 by satrox

[Drunk Not I Am 1,070]

Came in here to see post election thoughts, thingsaround the country have been saltier than the bottom of a chipotle chip bag. I voted for him, I may or may not not be proven wrong but I felt he was the better candidate. 

[Anneal 2,197]

How does he inspire? Seriously! Am I missing something? ... If you support Trump, indubitably, you like poor choices in life... 

Don't go there. Plenty of people here support Trump and certainly it isn't because they're racist or sexist or homophobic or...you get the point. In fact we should be steering away from talking about the supporters. Remember that Clinton hurt her chances of getting independents to her side when she called Trump supporters "deplorable". ( And people who say she retracted it...the damage was done). As much as Trump may say some crazy shit, you should never attack supporters. And now we're doing the same here and it's dividing up people more and more. We had several topics locked and cleaned in the last few days, and could possibly be the most topics we had locked in MLPForums in a week. We're better than this.

 

 

That is just the first goddamn day. I have never looked into Obamacare extensively so whatever, but immediately suspend Syrian refugees? Seriously? People fleeing from a terrorist group that WE are doing a fucking piss poor job in fighting? Hell, we 'accidentally' bombed friendly Syrian forces once and that lead to an ISIS victory. Yet any of the people there want to come here and escape, nah, fuck you. Then he wants to terminate 'unconstitutional orders' made by Obama. Curious on what this could be. With the piece of shit Mike Pence at his side, this is a scary idea. And of course, there is his absolutely brain dead wall idea in hopes of elimination drug cartels. Yes, because a simple wall will do that. Totally. /s

 

This is a doozy. I mean, wow. First, he basically wants to destroy trade with other nations I guess. How in the hell he thinks this will help the economy is far beyond me. Then, he wants to cancel funding to Climate change programs, because I guess global warming isn't real after all, according to him. What will he do with that money then? Oh, just INCREASE military spending. Seriously?! That is his idea? He wants to cut funding to climate change programs but he wants to throw more money into our military, the military that is currently doing a shitty job in Syria. Yay. And this is all within his first 100 days!!!

 

Restricting the immigration of Syrian refugees isn't pleasant but it's a necessity. Most Americans don't believe in accepting Syrian refugees (and an overwhelming majority of states, including liberal ones), not out of racism or "Islamophobia" but because they are concerned about terrorists. There have been terrorist attacks in Europe over the last few years and in a few countries like Sweden they have been suffering from increased crime...mostly done by refugees. If refugees are going to come in, we need to put them through tight screening and checks, or we're not accepting any at all. It doesn't matter who they are. Europe has been in a big mess for unconditonally accepting Syrian refugees and the US isn't going to repeat that mistake. ( http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/19/most-americans-dont-want-us-accept-any-syrian-refu/ )

 

While I don't agree on the wall, I do believe tighter border control can cut off the access routes that are flowing cash into the cartels. There's no denying that the cartels has infiltrated well into the US; there are even drug factories and farms well north of the country. The influence of drug cartels are prevalent in Ohio, where you are guaranteed to know a close family member or friend using opiates. And in northern California there are illegal weed farms and drug centers guarded by the cartels, and they are primarily responsible for the increase in crime and homicide around that area.

 

If Trump builds the wall or something similar, it would cut off their economic cycle. However I believe it would be more expensive than it is worth, even if we built it with the terrain in mind. A fair amount of illegal immigrants are illegal because of overstayed visas. If anything we need to improve our overworked immigration courts and make sure they go back to get their visas. Also, it's not going to be "on the first day" because even with the GOP having a majority in both the House and Senate Trump would be lucky to do anything within thebfirst few weeks. That's just presidential rhetoric. More likely than not nothing is going to happen in the first month.

 

And I would be willing to accept Trump's increase in defense spending over Clinton's "no fly zone" (which does nothing to stop but everything to anger Russia) and risk war with Russia. Trump has clearer goals on how to stop ISIS. Some call Clinton more of a warhawk than Trump or even the Republicans...that's saying something. ( http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/magazine/how-hillary-clinton-became-a-hawk.html )

 

I completely disagreed with Trump's climate change ideas, however. If it weren't for that I would have voted for him. But as long as he doesn't try to stop alternative energy funding (some Republicans may not accept climate change but they're usually in for improving alternative energy sources or being more self-sufficient on energy sources) I would be fine with him.

[Member Berry 1,217]

I do somewhat blame the media for all this really. Most people genuinely believed that Clinton was going to win so probably thought "Why vote? She's going to win anyway" I think that's what happened with Brexit too. 

[Anneal 2,197]

I do somewhat blame the media for all this really. Most people genuinely believed that Clinton was going to win so probably thought "Why vote? She's going to win anyway" I think that's what happened with Brexit too.

 

She was too careless herself as well. Clinton didn't campaign in a few states because she was too convinced she would win these states, not expecting Trump to suddenly flip them red. Winning Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida was essential to Trump's victory. And even since the primaries she did not campaign in Wisconsin, which proved to be her final nail to the coffin. At a time where she should be convincing poor whites to vote for her she failed to appear most of the time.

 

Likewise, she lacked personality. Most of her campaign relied on the idea that "Trump is worse" and because of that she did poorly in establishing her personality. Her efforts to connect to her voters looked more like your embarrassing mom trying her best to be "cool". Meanwhile, most people put their attention on Trump thanks to his temperament, and in the end it worked out for him and not so much for Hillary. Americans want change, and some don't believe Hillary would bring any.

Edited November 10, 2016 by Minccino

[chili-pepper-thinker 37]

I definitely don't think that he will be a good president. Yeah, he is a good showman and that's because he won the election. 

 

I wonder if he googles "HOW TO RUN A COUNTRY" right now...

[Darthy Hooves 106]

Just read that Trump is making a retaliation list of all those who opposed him, starting with the Republican Party.

[Black Sabbath 2,486]

Just read that Trump is making a retaliation list of all those who opposed him, starting with the Republican Party.

Would you mind giving me the source, please?

[Darthy Hooves 106]

Go to "Americans Against The Republican Party" page on Facebook. It will tell you all you need to know about our new Fuehrer.

[Castle Bleck 19,361]

Go to "Americans Against The Republican Party" page on Facebook. It will tell you all you need to know about our new Fuehrer.

 

The only fuhrer I see is the one who failed and is probably on her way to prison next year.

[Concerned Bystander 2,902]

Go to "Americans Against The Republican Party" page on Facebook. It will tell you all you need to know about our new Fuehrer.

 

With all due respect to your good self I don't think anyone that wants to find out the truth about a Republican president (elect) is going to find anything other than propaganda, rhetoric (and salt) on a site whose very name declares them to be biased against the Republican party.  That would be a bit like trying to find out about Clinton by watching Fox news.

[phulusa 16]

I think he's Silvio Berlesconi in a Hallowe'en outfit.

[Zyrael 1,471]

Now's a good a time as any to reiterate. I think he's a played-out joke. He'll be a mediocre president at best- the huge chasm between left and right grows wider by the day. We've emboldened and given power to bigots, and set a backwards precedent from progressive social reform. Many people (kids included) fear we may face a dark future.  I am let down by my country, for the two choices we had and the choice that this country made. His statements, and the statements of those who support him, would seem to create a climate of heightened tension and fear, especially for those at the receiving end of a republican-dominated government. It is a national disgrace I will not be able to forgive. I will never again feel the same about being a member of a society that would choose this clown as the leader of the free world. It is a sad and uncertain time we live in. 

[Feather Data 131]

Now's a good a time as any to reiterate. I think he's a played-out joke. He'll be a mediocre president at best- the huge chasm between left and right grows wider by the day. We've emboldened and given power to bigots, and set a backwards precedent from progressive social reform. Many people (kids included) fear we may face a dark future.  I am let down by my country, for the two choices we had and the choice that this country made. His statements, and the statements of those who support him, would seem to create a climate of heightened tension and fear, especially for those at the receiving end of a republican-dominated government. It is a national disgrace I will not be able to forgive. I will never again feel the same about being a member of a society that would choose this clown as the leader of the free world. It is a sad and uncertain time we live in. 

Trump may actual be the most liberal Republican elected president

[AaronMk 280]

Now's a good a time as any to reiterate. I think he's a played-out joke. He'll be a mediocre president at best- the huge chasm between left and right grows wider by the day. We've emboldened and given power to bigots, and set a backwards precedent from progressive social reform. Many people (kids included) fear we may face a dark future.  I am let down by my country, for the two choices we had and the choice that this country made. His statements, and the statements of those who support him, would seem to create a climate of heightened tension and fear, especially for those at the receiving end of a republican-dominated government. It is a national disgrace I will not be able to forgive. I will never again feel the same about being a member of a society that would choose this clown as the leader of the free world. It is a sad and uncertain time we live in. 

 

I'll give him his four years. Between then and now we get our mid-term referendum on his abilities as a civic leader and we get the chance to boot him out. Between 2018 and 2020 I'm looking to see if his actual hard-line rhetoric will show up as the meme it might be, or it becomes all too real.

 

In the event it ends up being the fantasy I believe it is, the 2018 mid-term should hopefully break Republican-dominated mid-terms to re-balance congress to dillute or prevent any more self-destruction, and by 2020 we'll be moving on.

 

On present politics with the Democrats being such a large minority still there's still chances we'll have re-encouraged bipartisanism with some nice congressional alliances with the Never Trump Republicans.

[CT-1138 3,182]

Trump may actual be the most liberal Republican elected president

More liberal than Eisenhower or Roosevelt? I think not. Until I see a 92% tax rate levied against the rich, more regulated industry, the big banks broken up and dozens of square miles of American land taken from industry and protected, I scoff at the notion. No, I do believe the age of the liberal Republican has been over for decades now. 

Edited November 10, 2016 by CT-1138

[Feather Data 131]

More liberal than Eisenhower or Roosevelt? I think not. Until I see a 92% tax rate levied against the rich, more regulated industry, the big banks broken up and dozens of square miles of American land taken from industry and protected, I scoff at the notion. No, I do believe the age of the liberal Republican has been over for decades now. 

Trump is neutral on LGBT