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[Jesse Terrence 2,968]

7 minutes ago, Splashee® said:

I am basing my opinions from the gamefaq (was it Gamespot, I don't remember) poll, where Undertale was nominated best game of all time. It beat games like Zelda and Mario. A huge amount of people voted as well.

It is proof that Undertale us the best game ever made. A newer poll might exist, but what game would beat Undertale in just a few years?

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I love this argument. It is similar to the Nintendo vs Sega battles where Nintendo always wins because no one knew what Sega was, 2005+ kids do know what a Nintendo is so it must be better! 

 

Lol, I see what you mean. One of my cousin's sons is obsessed with undertale. Thinks fighting, fps and horror games suck balls and people such as pewdiepie are like gods or something. Though you know they are falling in a fallacy.

Still, the sega/nintendo fight is a tricky thing. I would rather judge them by their game catalogs and by comparing multiplatform games between them both. Usually nintendo wins but not for being popular, but rather for having better games xD

We could compare Zombies ate my neighbors, Death and return of superman, Mortal Kombat II and TMNT tournament fighters, to name a few, and the SNES versions usually come ahead either by sound capabilities or gameplay.

I see a constant blindfold related to sonic the hedgehog and its apparent superiority over Mario games, but that's rather subjetive anyway given both games focus on very different gameplays despite both being platformers. Is like if we compared Street Fighter with Tekken. One focuses on classic 2D fighting while the other focuses on technical fighting and good timing.

[Splashee 28,564]

18 minutes ago, Jesse Terrence said:

to name a few, and the SNES versions usually come ahead either by sound capabilities or gameplay.

Sadly, making music for Nintendo since SNES was midi soundfonts, basically. Sega used FM chips, which delivered much more skilled music, if not just midi converted. So comparing games that were released on both system, you get midi converted music. You have to look at the real crazy stuff. The music Sortie from a relatively unknown game Gauntlet is an example of a FM programmed music, and not midi converted:

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And soundfonts for midi files were default for soundcards during the Windows 95 era, and no one really enjoyed those. Compare that to earlier DOS games with a Roland module

Edited August 12, 2020 by Splashee®
I am typing on smartphone, so skipping details

[Splashee 28,564]

2 minutes ago, You said:

Which is funny, because I just started playing EarthBound for the first time :p

Also, Epic Battle Fantasy is prob not too far behind in that comedy aspect

Was Earthbound the game with the crazy battle backgrounds? I am all for those special effects!

[Will Guide 21,360]

17 minutes ago, Splashee® said:

Was Earthbound the game with the crazy battle backgrounds? I am all for those special effects!

yeah but most people in my generation know Ness is from Earthbound because of his appearance in Super Smash Brothers

[Jesse Terrence 2,968]

2 hours ago, Splashee® said:

Sadly, making music for Nintendo since SNES was midi soundfonts, basically. Sega used FM chips, which delivered much more skilled music, if not just midi converted. So comparing games that were released on both system, you get midi converted music. You have to look at the real crazy stuff. The music Sortie from a relatively unknown game Gauntlet is an example of a FM programmed music, and not midi converted:

ptE3EEb7STU

And soundfonts for midi files were default for soundcards during the Windows 95 era, and no one really enjoyed those. Compare that to earlier DOS games with a Roland module

 

Long ass reply bellow.
 

Spoiler

 

Gauntlet has never been an unknown title, the series itself stayed around for quite a while and was a favorite outside sega fans. It was quite popular on NES, and the PSX Gauntlet game was quite known too.

And I don't exactly understand what do you mean by "more skilled music". To some extend, I find more natural the drumsets used in many SNES titles, and I guess the complexity on the compositions depend more on the composers than on the chipsets available.

 

Let's compare 3 versions of Vampire killer. The first from Super Castlevania IV from the SNES, which came out relatively early, next one the one from Bloodlines from Sega Genesis, and lastly the version from Dracula X for the snes

Same theme in 3 different games and arrangements. The SNES ones seem to never lack drumsets, and the Dracula X version goes a bit further with the SNES chip than the IV one.

Next up games with the same soundtrack on different consoles.

I love the theremin from the snes version.

 I don't need to point things out there.

Another example (which I ignored existed on both consoles) is Joe & Mac -or caveman ninja as some may call it-.

Now, The death and return of superman is a very interesting case in which both versions have totally different compositions.

The snes one revolves around a darker motif, while the genesis version is far more bright.

And there are many other titles that might have not been the exact same thing though they shared the exact same name, but we still can compare the music, like with TMNT Tournament Fighter

 

 

[Vefka 1,499]

On 8/12/2020 at 6:51 AM, Will Guide said:

Having 4K/1080p graphics like in a PlayStation game is not the Most important thing.

There's a reason Nintendo had been around for 6-7 Generations of Gaming despite being technically inferior to its competition. And why it dominated the handheld gaming market with their Game Boy and DS families until the rise of mobile Gaming on smartphones

But nowadays Nintendo mostly popular in Japan and US, you'd be surprised in how many countries Nintendo's games considered too childish and obsolete, and Switch considered as the secondary console or not even considered as an option. In my country I've never seen a person who knows what Smash Bros about (not even on internet)

Edited August 13, 2020 by Vefka

[baba_booey 4,302]

Mario Kart 64 is one of the weakest games in the series and is mediocre even compared to other kart racers released around that time (particularly Crash Team Racing and Diddy Kong Racing). I honestly don’t see why so many consider it to be the best one other than nostalgia.

[Will Guide 21,360]

Just now, SuperNESBrony said:

Mario Kart 64 is one of the weakest games in the series and is mediocre even compared to other kart racers released around that time (particularly Crash Team Racing and Diddy Kong Racing). I honestly don’t see why so many consider it to be the best one other than nostalgia.

Because it established the standard Mario kart formula after the first game on Super NES was somewhat of Early Installment Weirdness. The standard being 4 races per cup, you don't have to collect coins all the time, and I believe the infamous blue shell

[ExplosionMare 18,063]

On 8/11/2020 at 8:22 AM, KatonRyu said:

I really don't think the characters in Undertale are all that good, nor are the jokes. It has great moments, but the game as a whole, to me, really isn't that good.

I think you’re right. The characters themselves, as much as they try, don’t feel fully fleshed out. It’s interesting when they have certain motivations, but a lot of those are speculation, so it’s really only your imagination that can improve the characters sometimes. I’d also have to agree with the jokes, a lot of them go on FOREVER and there’s a lot of anime references which is annoying to people like me who don’t understand any of it.

I could go on, but I don’t wanna ramble for too much longer. In short, I think the game is interesting, and a decent pastime (even though some routes take FOREVER), but it’s not one of my favorite games. 

[Will Guide 21,360]

I honestly don't see why Game Freak Lied is such a big deal.

Let's be realistic here trying to make every single close to 900 Pokemon usable and with the proper animations in Sword and Shield would require soooooooo many man-hours, money on both the developers and customers part, and storage space in the Game Card. 

If you ask me the whole GameFreak Lied Controversy is just the cynical fans looking for reasons to complain, the worst of them acting like everyone has to agree with them that Game Freak needs to go down

[Steve Piranha 29,425]

23 hours ago, Will Guide said:

I honestly don't see why Game Freak Lied is such a big deal.

Let's be realistic here trying to make every single close to 900 Pokemon usable and with the proper animations in Sword and Shield would require soooooooo many man-hours, money on both the developers and customers part, and storage space in the Game Card. 

If you ask me the whole GameFreak Lied Controversy is just the cynical fans looking for reasons to complain, the worst of them acting like everyone has to agree with them that Game Freak needs to go down

Yeah, you are mostly right. Pokemon IS repetitive, and stagnant, and Gamefreak is lazy in truly evolving the series. But that’s mostly the fans’ fault for showing a minor tweak here and there per gen is enough to sell millions 

[KatonRyu 1,033]

On 8/12/2020 at 1:03 AM, Splashee® said:

Take that back!

 

No, but the game do use references and ideas from earlier games that never got famous. Capitalizing on ideas and giving them a broader audience has made the game the greatest of them all! And we just have to accept that

Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a bad game, I just don't think it deserves the mountains of praise it's gotten. The part of the game where the backstory is told late in the run, the lab part of the True Pacifist run and the atmosphere of the Genocide run are great, as is the music (specifically the main theme and its derivatives). Basically, the moments where the game is serious are the moments where it shines. In terms of gameplay and humor, though, I just didn't really feel it to the point it was more annoying than endearing.

[Envy 6,168]

On 8/12/2020 at 6:50 PM, Will Guide said:

Let's be realistic here trying to make every single close to 900 Pokemon usable and with the proper animations in Sword and Shield would require soooooooo many man-hours, money on both the developers and customers part, and storage space in the Game Card. 

The animations and the like aren't really any kind of improvement in Sword/Shield over Gen VI and VII. And from what I understand, all of the Pokemon models were made HD-ready, so they only really needed a tiny bit of tweaking to fit into Sword/Shield's style.

In regards to money and staffing... There's more to this than you may realize. An interview sometime last year (I believe it was) with a GF staff member revealed that because TPC puts less focus on mainline Pokemon games nowadays (the focus is on the mobile market, after the success of GO), GF has followed accordingly and now has a significant amount of their staff working on other projects.

In reality, we all know that Pokemon is one of the largest, most successful, most rich franchises ever. This cutting of corners on Pokemon games can come off as nothing better than fishy to us on on the outside. Pokemon games are not meeting their potential, and it's not for any of the reasons you listed. It's because the companies involved know they don't need to put much effort in to make a product that sells.

The storage on the game cartridge is a complete non-issue. Please look into stuff before you say it.

[Splashee 28,564]

16 hours ago, KatonRyu said:

Basically, the moments where the game is serious are the moments where it shines. In terms of gameplay and humor, though, I just didn't really feel it to the point it was more annoying than endearing.

Interesting, I almost felt the opposite. The game never played like a normal game except for the Undyne boss fight and Mettatton Ex. The rest was just dialog and "controlled difficulty" to make it possible for small YouTubers to progress and praise the game. That's why it was good, because it looked like a crazy game, but was really just movie to be shared over and over with different voice acting

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,533]

Here's one most would not agree with me on most likely:

The current trend that Fortnite made mainstream with constant battle passes, "seasons", and incredibly stupid cosmetic stores is all worse than the original trend of loot boxes and season passes. Both of those things at least have potential to be done well, they just usually were done horribly. The current garbage in gaming gets to me really bad. Seasons are often excuses now for games to launch with a total lack of content and in the case of Modern Warfare, the seasons are terrible, introducing endless amounts of terrible cosmetics that are hideously overpriced. Battle Passes have the same kind of problem and are actually worse in other ways. Battle Passes prey on your time. If you don't have the time to complete the pass, it will tempt you to spend money to go up in the tiers, in a pass you may have already paid for. The content in these passes also tends to not be very good. On top of all of that, with so many games blatantly copying other games and shoehorning battles passes into their infrastructure, it pretty much means that you will never be able to complete them in multiple games unless you spend a boatload of cash. So you will then miss out in content on other games if you aren't solely dedicated to just one. Battle passes and seasons are often incredibly lame and with everyone getting the exact same content, it isn't exciting in the slightest. 

If these things resulted in good customization options to personalize your experience, I would not hate it nearly as much, but every game is the same in this regard. Terrible skins, emotes and whatever else that has no options for personalization. 

Another unpopular opinion:

Battle Royale is one of the worst things ever introduced to gaming. 

[Sparklefan1234 170,997]

I know it's supposed to add a challenge to certain games but I HATE timers in levels!

Unless it's in a wrestling game where I select that specific match type myself. 

Edited August 20, 2020 by Sparklefan1234

[Vefka 1,499]

17 hours ago, Kyoshi said:

The current trend that Fortnite made mainstream with constant battle passes, "seasons", and incredibly stupid cosmetic stores is all worse than the original trend of loot boxes and season passes

I agree, but first seasons in Fortnite were pretty interesting. In fortnite's case the game itself is so bizarre and cartoony that developers are free to add any shit they imagine to the game, so we got a giant purple moving cube and Thanos's glove in one of the seasons

[KatonRyu 1,033]

On 8/20/2020 at 2:18 AM, Splashee® said:

Interesting, I almost felt the opposite. The game never played like a normal game except for the Undyne boss fight and Mettatton Ex. The rest was just dialog and "controlled difficulty" to make it possible for small YouTubers to progress and praise the game. That's why it was good, because it looked like a crazy game, but was really just movie to be shared over and over with different voice acting

I'm not really talking about the gameplay, I was more referring to the moments where the story itself became more serious and dramatic rather than comedic. The gameplay was a bit awkward throughout, but that was very much part of the setting. But while I generally liked most characters, I never really connected with them emotionally in the way that others seem to. I didn't want to kill them, but I didn't really care for them either. It was when the game moved away from mediocre humor that I think it really showed its class, but even though those moments were very strong I just don't think they can raise my opinion of the game as a whole above 'it was okay, I guess'.

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,533]

14 hours ago, Vefka said:

I agree, but first seasons in Fortnite were pretty interesting. In fortnite's case the game itself is so bizarre and cartoony that developers are free to add any shit they imagine to the game, so we got a giant purple moving cube and Thanos's glove in one of the seasons

I can see that and I suppose I give it at least a couple of points for originality in that regard but it leads into another issue I have with Fortnite. The reason it does all these random and wacky things is simply because Fortnite has no theme at all. It launched as a mediocre tower defense sorta thing, then it cashes in on battle royale and now its theme is "This is the best game because it is the most popular game." Epic is arrogant as hell. Their attempt to bypass Google and Apple's payment system that everyone else has to abide by was pathetic and them trying to act like Fortnite being removed from those stores is some crime on humanity and freedom is beyond tone deaf. All of that playing into the non-theme theme of "We most popular game, we best game." Not to mention all these crossovers with different media feels entirely soulless and corporate. "Our popular game get popular characters so we become more popular and more better game." 

Okay, I went on a tangent there but my point is I despise Fortnite and Epic.  

[Will Guide 21,360]

Super Mario RPG is overrated. The only thing memorable was Geno, who the Super Smash Brothers community won't shut up about

[Goat-kun 2,527]

Controversial, huh? Not all PC gamers are real gamers but all of real gamers are PC gamers. gg no re

[Here No Longer 5,276]

The controversy surrounding Black Ops: Cold War is one of the few video game controversies that actually has merit. I'm kind of inclined to agree with the cancel culture that the trailer is spreading far right propaganda after watching it, twice.

Edited September 18, 2020 by Dusknoir

[Sparklefan1234 170,997]

On 9/18/2020 at 5:48 PM, You said:

Batman: Arkham Asylum sucks if you are not deep in DC and don't care for the characters and background stories.

 

Batman: Arkham Asylum feels like a horror game where they added Batman characters in halfway through production because

they realized it would sell more games.

[Vefka 1,499]

Controversial, huh?

I don't see a single reason to buy xbox. If you just want to play online and multiplatform games, upgrade your PC and you get everything xbox has plus powerful PC for videos, work, general use, etc. If you want to play exclusives and singleplayer games, playstation is here for you

[Magic Note 2,748]

FF7 is easily one of my least favorite Final Fantasy games, mostly because they written Cloud to be some unlikable putz at first. First impressions to me are always the important one, and him having no flaws only sours my opinion on him. Even worse, if you want to get through the game, you have to go through Midgar, easily the worst part about the game.

FF7 Remake did nothing to alleviate my opinions with Midgar being awful, and made it the main focus and padded it to a 40-hour monstrosity. After having the "remake" shoved down my throat constantly, it did nothing but made me avoid the game altogether.