100 beasts kaidou 321 June 9, 2013 Share June 9, 2013 In my culture/religion It is okay to breed with your cousin (Only inside marriages) Which is taboo in most parts of the world. And I know alot of people in my village who married their cousins. Should I feel ashamed for living in this culture? Blueblood's only fan in the whole wide Fandom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level3rd 128 June 9, 2013 Share June 9, 2013 Hmm, although it's certainly an interesting concept, I find it a little bit weird. I think from a scientific point of view, it wouldn't be healthy for the offspring. If you've got 2 people re-producing who are very similar on a DNA level, the offspring would have very narrow DNA variation. However, I've always thought one of my cousins was really cute. Never really did anything about that hahahaha!I wouldn't feel ashamed at all if I were you. 2 This one time, at Bandcamp... Check out my SoundCloud!!Or my Youtube! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metemponychosis 1,261 June 9, 2013 Share June 9, 2013 Morality by consensus. Regardless of facts or whatever, societies determine what is right or wrong by the opinions of the majority or most influential. Nothing wrong in it, by itself, so no reason to feel ashamed. 1 https://www.fimfiction.net/user/32864/Metemponychosis For dumb, self-important fics about mythology, ponies and fascist griffons that can't figure friendship out. And I'm just getting started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutemutt 773 June 9, 2013 Share June 9, 2013 Not really. It's just cultural differences as far as I'm concerned. Though there are certainly more risks that come along because of inbreeding especially if it's a continuous event across generations. If I remember correctly the birth defect rate for the children of 1st cousins is 4% while the rate for children of two who are unrelated is 2%. That being said, there are actually a fair amount of states in the US that allow the marriage of 1st cousins. It's still not something the general public, or even the average American family member, wants to hear their son/daughter/brother/sister/etc. engage in though. I personally have no problem with it and I don't think you should feel ashamed about it either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilshy 5,090 June 9, 2013 Share June 9, 2013 (edited) Morality is decided purely by the society in which you reside. Therefore, it can't be immoral to your culture if it is accepted in your culture. Another culture might see it as immoral, but unless that culture has a strong effect on yours, it is unlikely to effect anything. As has been said, this can increase the likelihood of birth defects, which I don't think anybody will disagree is a bad thing. Immoral? No. Bad idea? Probably. Should you feel ashamed? That's really a personal thing. Don't let anybody tell you when to feel ashamed or guilty. I honestly find it more odd that you refer to it as "breeding", a term almost exclusively used when talking about animals. Usually it is referred to as procreation when dealing with humans Edited June 9, 2013 by Evilshy 1 Signature now 99% less edgy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohbdy 4,108 June 10, 2013 Share June 10, 2013 Depending on who you ask, it could be considered strange, and even wrong. Since cousins are genetically close, breeding could produce birth defects for the offspring. Is it wrong to simply have marriage without the child? Not necessarily. However, that also brings up the question of whether siblings can also marry, provided that they don't breed. Where does it stop? Ultimately, it's a good idea to consider the consequences of marrying a relative, regardless of legal or moral standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos 191 June 10, 2013 Share June 10, 2013 (edited) (content has been removed) Edited March 16, 2014 by Argos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkshift 85 June 10, 2013 Share June 10, 2013 Yu should never feel ashamed of your culture because that is your way of life and if in your culture it is acceptable to marry your cousin so be it as long as you don't think it is wrong well then you're ok. Skype:RogyBoyHFC Always on OC:http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/darkshift-r3466 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoEAF2FBvC0MIo2Q 3,673 June 10, 2013 Share June 10, 2013 Shame is often a bigger burden than is necessary. Just be aware that breeding with a cousin puts the offspring at a greater risk for birth defects. Because I'm far more concerned about the health of the offspring where your love interests fall outside of my concerns, the line is drawn at conceiving a child with a second cousin or closer. I forget where I got this but I remember this claim that scientifically, it becomes safe from 3rd cousin and further. So then if you want a committed relationship of that sort with a family member without breeding then for me, there's nothing to be concerned about. You could always adopt a child if you want children under such circumstances. Still, if I were to see or hear about it, it'd send a bad chill through me but the facts matter more than my useless subjective opinions. Kind of a knee-jerk reaction I can't do much about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks 10,816 June 10, 2013 Share June 10, 2013 No, because it is pointless to be ashamed of something you are not doing yourself. As to whether it is actually moral to do that no I do not believe it is precisely because as others have pointed out the odds of birth defects goes up and while sex is not always used for procreation there are cases where there are "accidents". Rarity Get's Cockroaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyPoni 564 June 12, 2013 Share June 12, 2013 Personality and culture wise, you shouldn't feel ashamed. I mean SCIENTIFICALLY it's not considered a good idea because bad genes may be more likely to be expressed and it may seem a bit weird to everyone else, but you shouldn't feel ashamed. I feel hypocritical though, I'm often embarrassed by my culture a lot. But I really shouldn't... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygen 6,066 June 12, 2013 Share June 12, 2013 Eh, not really, I don't think you should be ashamed, I don't know if its something that I find totally ok since its not something accepted in my culture, but I wouldn't be ashamed over a culture your a part of regardless anyways. I have heard it can make for some odd breeding though. And offspring or whatever, but idk. I don't think you should exactly be ashamed of who you are though. Thanks to Gone Airbourne for the awesome sig! My Oc's, Ponysona, Bella Vocal Covers Blog, MLP Covers Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177 June 12, 2013 Share June 12, 2013 No. Its your culture and being ashamed of your culture is just wrong bro.... Personally i am against incest, and so are many others, but this shouldent make you ashamed of it bro. My peep is against bullying.... Are you? http://mlpforums.com/topic/117034-suggestion-anti-bullying-campaign/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammo 986 June 12, 2013 Share June 12, 2013 I won't judge. If cousins are close like that it's a very grey situation. Unusual yes. Wrong.. Tough call. I wouldn't. But I don't have a busty Thai woman who is always playing video games in her underwear on summer days for a cousin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkflame 3,310 June 12, 2013 Share June 12, 2013 Well it's certainly not the norm as far as worldwide cultures go, but every culture has something that they do that's not shared by others. Judge it with shame? No. No one's getting hurt, and it's just a different set of standards and beliefs than others. I personally would be very uncomfortable with the idea of marrying my first cousins, but that's just me. The important thing is that you are secure and comfortable with how *you* feel about it. 1 Sig by Thunderstorm Check out my Rarity fansite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~StatesTheOblivious~ 1,795 June 12, 2013 Share June 12, 2013 (edited) Well, without mentioning ethics and morals... There is a reason why most humans usually don't develop that kind of feelings for close relatives. It is, from an evolutionary point of few, negligent to have children with people related to you, even if they are very distantly related to you. Our gene-pool degenerates with every generation that we "breed" just within our own ethnicity. Yeah... that's right; to have the healthiest, smartest and therefore fittest children, you should have children with someone who is as least related to you as possible. But if it goes for morals... The risk that the child suffers from the typical secondary effects of incest is always given. And I don't just talk about health, but also about social accaptance. If it is okay within a culture... well you can argue about that. But it's a different culture; to say that it's wrong when you are an outsider is always a delicate issue. You shouldn't feel ashamed for living in this culture, but you have two advantages: 1) It is just allowed, right? You don't have to do so if you don't like it, right? Well, then don't do it and say so if you are asked. 2) You can judge it better because you are a part of it. Always keep that in mind. Edited June 12, 2013 by StatesTheOblivious 1 "If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences." - W. I. Thomas & D. S. Thomas Signature by Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Brown 26 June 13, 2013 Share June 13, 2013 Despite the stereotypes I can tell you that Kentucky is one of the few stares to NOT allow you legaly marry your first cousin. Even if basketball and inbreeding are what we're best known for lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramba2654 602 June 13, 2013 Share June 13, 2013 Yeah. All in all it's just a society taboo. Biologically speaking there's so nothing wrong with it that plants, dogs, insects do that. Anyways, this reminds me of Episode 8 of Friendship Is Witchcraft. I won't be a complete brony until I get a Thunderlane plushie and go to a convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Bolt 35,064 June 26, 2019 Share June 26, 2019 On 6/9/2013 at 2:23 PM, Level3rd said: Hmm, although it's certainly an interesting concept, I find it a little bit weird. I think from a scientific point of view, it wouldn't be healthy for the offspring. If you've got 2 people re-producing who are very similar on a DNA level, the offspring would have very narrow DNA variation. However, I've always thought one of my cousins was really cute. Never really did anything about that hahahaha! I wouldn't feel ashamed at all if I were you. Yeah, I ditto this. ☆ My socials ☆ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Gust 708 June 26, 2019 Share June 26, 2019 I mean, from a biological standpoint, not the best thing to do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExplosionMare 18,065 June 26, 2019 Share June 26, 2019 My only concern is that sometimes the kids come out with really bizarre disabilities. Inbred children aren’t always going to be healthy since there parents are in the family. 2 Boom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,617 June 26, 2019 Share June 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, ExplosionMare said: My only concern is that sometimes the kids come out with really bizarre disabilities. Inbred children aren’t always going to be healthy since there parents are in the family. This is why I am against inbreeding of any kind. The whole point of genetics in that regard is to spread the genes apart, not doing so can have some...not good results. If cousins want to marry or something, whatever, more power to them I suppose, but them having kids is where it can be tricky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xe__or 4,377 June 26, 2019 Share June 26, 2019 (edited) Incest is nasty man; and the offsprings often say Oof Edited June 26, 2019 by Xelto.r 1 hello my name is Xe__or and this is disney channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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