Why do some bronies seem to hate Princess Celestia?

[KokuraiNoSenshi 3,465]

It's not about things like plotholes here, it's about hating. And yet i have to find a Non Luna Fan, who really hates Celestia's character and decisions.

 

Wait, maybe except of some Twilight fans, because Celestia didn't officially say sorry. Like many others, but so what....

Wait... So... You have Non Luna Fans, but then you say they don't count because they are Twilight fans? Isn't that just twisting things to fit your ideals? Also what about the Luna fans who LIKE Celestia? What about us, do we not count in this?

[Gary S. 102]

No. I forgot about very few Twight fans. And if someone says "Celestia is a bitch and sux" you can bet on it that Luna is best princess to them. That doesn't mean that ALL Luna fans are hating her.

Edited July 27, 2014 by Gary S.

[babymoondust 223]

Again: Ridiculous to argue over this. Let people have opinions; an argument about preferences will never be "won". 

[KokuraiNoSenshi 3,465]

No. I forgot about very few Twight fans. And if someone says "Celestia is a bitch and sux" you can bet on it that Luna is best princess to them. That doesn't mean that ALL Luna fans are hating her.

I personally know some people who don't have Luna as favorite princess but hate Celestia. Mostly Cadance people. Some Twilights. But the fact of the matter is, is that if you use ad hominems but then sort of try & work around them by saying things like "so what" about Twilight fans hating her, or that all pro-Luna princess fans are against her when I could get a hold of people who prefer one of the other Princesses but still don't like Celestia, it just makes this convoluted mess that just doesn't work as an argument. Big rule of debating; Avoid ad hominems whenever possible. They are too easy to break, as all it takes is one person/thing going against the grain to ruin the ad hominem

Edited July 27, 2014 by KokuraiNoSenshi

[Gary S. 102]

No. I said "So what", because it's stupid to hate Celestia for this moment while other ponies weren't shown to say sorry either. And i was talking about hating, not disliking. Of course, there are more than Luna Fans, who dislike Celestia.

 

Is my english that bad or do people try to nitpick and to twist my every word? I can't make myself clearer now so i leave it with that.

 

So there are Cadance fans who hate Celestia? I'm surprised at this, tbh.

[MontagnaMagica 307]

She simply suffers from a bad case of goody-two-horseshoes condition. Give her an episode where her character is conflicted, and her popularity will soar, TO THE CASTLE!

[Guest]

 

 

She's the tallest pony in the show, how much more development do you want?

 

 

This whole post was epic, but this made me in particular! XD

[babymoondust 223]

She simply suffers from a bad case of goody-two-horseshoes condition.

 

Ohh you touched on another reason I dislike her actually... The Mane 6 characters each have humorous attributes whereby certain characteristics get overblown for comic effect, but the underlying positivity of the character still ends up coming out "on top". 

Ime, this makes them so, so much more likable and relatable as interesting and endearing characters. 

 

Princess Celestia however, doesn't have any of this. She's never funny, humorous, she never makes accidents that make her look silly. This makes her a lot more bland, standoffish and one dimensional imo. 

Edited July 27, 2014 by babymoondust

[Guest]

Ohh you touched on another reason I dislike her actually... The Mane 6 characters each have humorous attributes whereby certain characteristics get overblown for comic effect, but the underlying positivity of the character still ends up coming out "on top". 

Ime, this makes them so, so much more likable and relatable as interesting and endearing characters. 

 

Princess Celestia however, doesn't have any of this. She's never funny, humorous, she never makes accidents that make her look silly. This makes her a lot more bland, standoffish and one dimensional imo. 

Regarding her lack of humour, she has been around for 1000+ years and has experienced more than anypony can imagine, in conjunction with her royal duties, its understandable that she rarely lets loose/appears serious. Having said that, she loved seeing the Gala get sabotaged because of how dull it usually is for her and there's this little gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SroATsaNFPE

And remember, she's just like us:

Edited July 27, 2014 by Guest

[SuddenSleep 40]

oh,she didn't do anything bad. why should i hate her.   . and i think, she (maybe we) need(s) at least one episode about her personal life (maybe even more) 

[yeet 2,027]

I have no idea what you're talking about with the hate. I think she is a good character. And she isn't a god character. We know this from A Canterlot Wedding where she is defeated by Chyralis (how ever it is spelt). And she likes cake.

[paradoxical 1,735]

 Princess Celestia however, doesn't have any of this. She's never funny, humorous, she never makes accidents that make her look silly. This makes her a lot more bland, standoffish and one dimensional imo. 

 

Her reaction to Pinkie Pie in storm of the century showed clearly that she didn't get what was going on -- which for a leader could be considered a major accident -- and she looked hilarious (to me).

[ShadowPirateX 600]

Regarding her lack of humour, she has been around for 1000+ years and has experienced more than anypony can imagine, in conjunction with her royal duties, its understandable that she rarely lets loose/appears serious. Having said that, she loved seeing the Gala get sabotaged because of how dull it usually is for her and there's this little gem:

And remember, she's just like us:

That "Gotcha!" scene shows a side of Celestia I wish to see more of.

Come on writers! Give us more "Mischievious Celestia" moments!

[Conred 274]

Bronies don't hate her. They just don't care about her. She has no clear personality and not a single episode of development. She is either kidnapped by her sister/Chrysalis/vines or just sits and do nothing. She is just an extension to Twilight's development just like Flash.

[Ianpiersonjdavis 514]

The only time I've ever hated Celestia was for her extremely self-centered actions in the "Reflections" arc of the IDW comics.

 

That's, why I prefer her in the show where she's not really like that.

[Linds 34]

In Poland you can easily find a brony hating Celestia, which fav pony isn't Luna, but it's Twilight  

 

I see the darkness in your soul, traveler.

 

It wails at me with the force of 1000 anti-suns.

 

I have seen your dialog with Evil Dragon Master, and even he cannot persuade you from your blasphemous path.

 

I can only pray that the Holy Light of Celestia makes its way through the shroud of illusion that has taken your mind.

 

May you find yourself under her gentle wing of mercy, one day.

 

I see your soul and mind are eaten by Celestia's leftist propaganda! 

[Hive King 2,001]

In Poland you can easily find a brony hating Celestia, which fav pony isn't Luna, but it's Twilight

 

 

I see your soul and mind are eaten by Celestia's leftist propaganda! 

I don't think you understand what leftist is. If anything, Celestia is right wing, Luna is left

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

 

Pictured: The Celestial Left

[Linds 34]

I don't think you understand what leftist is. If anything, Celestia is right wing, Luna is left

Dude, you're writing with guy from the country, where communism and socialism were and now post-comunism is there.

Edited July 28, 2014 by Linds

[GreyScholar 1,584]

@@Conred,

That really isn't fair to Princess Celestia though, it is not her fault that the writers have left the royal sisters story potential mostly untapped. She is the mentor figure, the mother figure, the adviser... in the eyes of the writers that she all she is needed for.

 

We need an episode giving viewers a deeper into into the minds, thoughts, and personality of Princess Celestia and Princess Luna... especially Celestia. It is why I am glad the comics offer more for the royal sisters, though their have been complaints about the Reflections arc.

 

Though more recently there is the book by Amy Keating Rogers, one of the show writers for MLP:FiM... which for me makes this book official lore on the royal sisters.

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Consider for a moment the possibilities: You have ruler that is over 1000 years old, one who had to live all but alone because of the events involving Nightmare Moon and having to watch as everypony around her grows old and dies. A mare with a millennia of experience and having experianced the very history ponies have only read about, a millennia to learn magic and better herself.

 

She is a mystery, one I feel wears a mask that hides her true self from her subjects. Her fears, her uncertainties, her loneliness, and her struggles. A ruler that has become the wise mentor and teacher that so many ponies depend on and look up to, one who must be strong for her subjects and Equestria. Yet one that is also neither perfect nor without weakness and flaws.

 

She has so much potential for expression and development, so much that can be revealed. Which is why I would rather see more of her then Princess Luna, for the time being we have enough development for the princess of the night. Unless the writers create episodes involving Princess Celestia we will never have a full character.

 

@,

No, Celestia is not lefty nor communist.

Edited August 1, 2014 by EquestrianScholar

[~ Dr. Ocsid ~ 690]

Hm, I find this discussion quiet amusing, since I'm reading at a moment a book on ancient egyptian humour. These jokes on Pharao Hatshepsut....

Definitely category "Molestia" if you ask me.

But you would have a hard time trying to find a better, fairer, (nonfictional) ruler more beloved by her subjects.

On the contrary, how much jokes have you seen on hated rulers? Not nearly as much, and not nearly as elaborate.

Therefore, I dare to say the more jokes are made about a ruler, the more liked he/she is, not the other way round. 

Anyone else to agree with this? 

[The Blades Shadow 445]

How could people hate Celestia? D:

I know everybody has certain characters that they hate, and I respect their opinions, but what is there to hate about Celestia?

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

@@EquestrianScholar,

 

I know. It's just fun to imagine it sometimes.

[LazuriteDreams* 136]

Wait, there are bronies who dislike Celestia? Unacceptable..! (jk)

 

Personally I think she is a great character and this is coming from a Luna fan! She is motherly, sweet and even a bit mysterious.

I definitely agree that she is like one of us. To me, I think she's more interesting in the comics, which is what made me like her more.  It upsets me that some fans does see her as only a tyrant and/or a troll,in which she is not.

Edited August 1, 2014 by LazuriteDreams*

[SilverStarApple 850]

bcuz shes stoopid an fat lel

 

But in all honesty, I dislike all three princesses (I don't count Twilight because I don't support Twilicorn, even though I have yet to see the latter half of S3; I go based on principle).

Celestia is (in my eyes) just as bad Luna because (for lack of a better term) she's lazy. She knows so much but divulges so little. I understand you want them to learn, but you're the ruling party, and you need to do some work. :c

Also, not enough time in the show to get to know her well. I don't mind her but she's just boring. And what she did to Luna was kind of uncalled for. A thousand years? Bit much, really. XD

I'm not a big fan of her design, either; though she is kinda cool looking she hurts to look at, LOL. Too much pale.

Do you also hate King Kai/Super Kami Guru? And Zordon? Celestia wants the younger generation to surpass her, Goku-style, so she'll have a friendly challenge.