technology How is my PC rig for the next gen

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

GTX 660(non ti)

i5 ivy bridge 3570k

ITB HDD

16 GB DDR3 RAM

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

650 wat PSU

 

The GTX 770 is out for over 300 bucks. But I have no plans on upgrading for some years. I know that my GTX 660 can run the games on high and not ultra. It doesn't matter, because there are people running 560 Ti cards and are getting high performance.

[Planty 1,053]

very nice

 

this is similar to mine, does your motherboard support automatic overclocking?

 

and yeah this will run most games on high settings fine should last 3-4 years at least before it can run stuff well anymore

[MLPForums Phanact 1,374]

I'd drop the RAM to 8GB and put the money towards a higher end graphics card. Have a look at AMD, you get more bang for buck.

 

And don't use automatic overclocking, it's a pile of wank. Do it manually, do it correctly. Remember to disable C-States and Speedstep.

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

I'd drop the RAM to 8GB and put the money towards a higher end graphics card. Have a look at AMD, you get more bang for buck.

 

And don't use automatic overclocking, it's a pile of wank. Do it manually, do it correctly. Remember to disable C-States and Speedstep.

I can't afford to upgrade anything actually. I have a 225$/month car payment to make. I also need to pay my insurance. i love the PC as the best platform. But the PC elitist can really get irritating. Most of the mature PC gamers run financially modest rigs, because they know how to run their games on ultra and or highest settings.

 

I can run Far Cry 3 on ultra, 1080p on DVI alone. Run it at past 30FPS. I believe on high I can run Far Cry 3 at 50fps. There is no need for the 700 series. These cards loose retail value fast. You can run these 7 gen games on a 500 card or a radeon 4000 series. Still get a better deal than console games.

[MLPForums Phanact 1,374]

I can't afford to upgrade anything actually. I have a 225$/month car payment to make. I also need to pay my insurance. i love the PC as the best platform. But the PC elitist can really get irritating. Most of the mature PC gamers run financially modest rigs, because they know how to run their games on ultra and or highest settings.

 

I can run Far Cry 3 on ultra, 1080p on DVI alone. Run it at past 30FPS. I believe on high I can run Far Cry 3 at 50fps. There is no need for the 700 series. These cards loose retail value fast. You can run these 7 gen games on a 500 card or a radeon 4000 series. Still get a better deal than console games.

 

I'm one of those people that despise anything that can't run games at 1080p at a constant 60-80FPS. I've sank a lot of money into my system to make sure it can and I'll be sinking more in this year in the form of a new Mobo, CPU and a second GPU... Maybe a third one as well.

 

You've still got a good system but I'm giving you advice based on the 60FPS rule.

If you've already bought this system, it's pretty good. If you've not then definitely switch to AMD for the GPU cause you'll save a shit-ton of money and get much better performance.

 

Oh, and there's plenty need for a 700 series card. More performance is always better.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Essy*

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

I'm one of those people that despise anything that can't run games at 1080p at a constant 60-80FPS. I've sank a lot of money into my system to make sure it can and I'll be sinking more in this year in the form of a new Mobo, CPU and a second GPU... Maybe a third one as well.

 

You've still got a good system but I'm giving you advice based on the 60FPS rule.

If you've already bought this system, it's pretty good. If you've not then definitely switch to AMD for the GPU cause you'll save a shit-ton of money and get much better performance.

 

Oh, and there's plenty need for a 700 series card. More performance is always better.

I might get it soon then. I t depends on the game. I mean I have no issues running 60fps on high for pretty much every game. What bothers me is the PS4 and 720 which are running games in 900p. The PS3 and 360 can only go to 1080i max. I really think it's because my Ivy bridge 5 is able to handle the processing of the 660 well enough. 

 

The you have retarded specs. Like the newest Skyrim mod is essentially unstable even for the highest card on the market. If you can run it, you got some bucks to burn. 

 

I have a friend who is PC illiterate. He wants to play league of legends only(dumb game) and he wants to invest over 3K on his rig and wants 3 screens. Who would want to play League of Legends at 300 fps? There is no point lol

[Milk Wave 454]

@@TheMarkz0ne,

 

Very good PC build, though I would also reccomend hitting 8GB of RAM and looking to an AMD Radeon GPU.

 

I'd also look to go for the Vischera 8 core CPU by AMD as well, but that involves also switching the motherboard. I just prefer it over the 3570k, my opinion. 

[MLPForums Phanact 1,374]

I might get it soon then. I t depends on the game. I mean I have no issues running 60fps on high for pretty much every game. What bothers me is the PS4 and 720 which are running games in 900p. The PS3 and 360 can only go to 1080i max. I really think it's because my Ivy bridge 5 is able to handle the processing of the 660 well enough. 

 

The you have retarded specs. Like the newest Skyrim mod is essentially unstable even for the highest card on the market. If you can run it, you got some bucks to burn. 

 

I have a friend who is PC illiterate. He wants to play league of legends only(dumb game) and he wants to invest over 3K on his rig and wants 3 screens. Who would want to play League of Legends at 300 fps? There is no point lol

 

How do I have retarded specs? O_O By the end of this year I should have a 770 triple SLI and an i5 4670K... I want pure performance so I can max out every game for the foreseeable future.

 

Also, there is every point. If he has the money, why not spend it on something he enjoys rather than half-assing his PC with an outdated GPU that is going to be worthless in all of about 6 months? I want to play LoL at 300FPS, just to prove a fucking point. I want to play pretty much every game at 300FPS just to say I can.

 

My PC is like an expensive car to me. It does the same shit as everyone elses, gets you from A to B but it always has the ability to perform better than everyone else's.

@@TheMarkz0ne,

 

Very good PC build, though I would also reccomend hitting 8GB of RAM and looking to an AMD Radeon GPU.

 

I'd also look to go for the Vischera 8 core CPU by AMD as well, but that involves also switching the motherboard. I just prefer it over the 3570k, my opinion. 

 

I'd stick with Intel. Single-threaded performance is miles better on Intel than AMD and that's where it counts.

 

Also, it's not even 8 cores. It's 4 physical, 4 logical. An i7 is hyperthreaded and has the same amount of logical cores but they don't claim it's an 8 core process cause it's just false.

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

How do I have retarded specs? O_O By the end of this year I should have a 770 triple SLI and an i5 4670K... I want pure performance so I can max out every game for the foreseeable future.

 

Also, there is every point. If he has the money, why not spend it on something he enjoys rather than half-assing his PC with an outdated GPU that is going to be worthless in all of about 6 months? I want to play LoL at 300FPS, just to prove a fucking point. I want to play pretty much every game at 300FPS just to say I can.

 

My PC is like an expensive car to me. It does the same shit as everyone elses, gets you from A to B but it always has the ability to perform better than everyone else's.

I was referring to a friend and not you. Don;t take it personally. The 8th gen is looking pretty bland a a repeat of gen 7. I play games for difficulty and replay value. I have many games, most of the simple looking games are hard to play. A game Battlefield 4 which failed at launch, I could careless for the looks. But I agree to a point, anything under 60 is choppy, anything under 50 is unplayable. If the 770 goes down by june of this year. I will most likely get it. Don;t forget I live in the Cesspool known as the US of A under our beloved leader Barrack Obama.

 

EDIT: I was talking about how the Skyrim patch for intensive graphics is just obscene.

Edited January 13, 2014 by TheMarkz0ne

[Milk Wave 454]

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Yeah, like I said my opinion. I prefer AMD since they're towards budget building, and I already bought my x4 Athlon which people say that's like the top for price to performance ratio.

 

Meh, oh well. Either or, I don't care if he buys one or the other.

[MLPForums Phanact 1,374]

I was referring to a friend and not you. Don;t take it personally. The 8th gen is looking pretty bland a a repeat of gen 7. I play games for difficulty and replay value. I have many games, most of the simple looking games are hard to play. A game Battlefield 4 which failed at launch, I could careless for the looks. But I agree to a point, anything under 60 is choppy, anything under 50 is unplayable. If the 770 goes down by june of this year. I will most likely get it. Don;t forget I live in the Cesspool known as the US of A under our beloved leader Barrack Obama.

 

Ah, okay. I agree with you for the FPS part. I even overclocked my monitor's refresh rate so I could enable vsync and sit at 70FPS rather than 60FPS.

The 770 is a beautiful card. Overclocks like a dream. I've got mine at 1306mhz core (stays stable at 1320 but it's just in case) and 7650mhz memory.

 

Still, you've got a good system there anyway! Stick with Intel for CPU's always but consider AMD GPU's as they really do offer better price to performance.

[GrimCW 658]

First and foremost.. there is no "next gen" with PC's

 

We're always ahead of the consoles.. so next gen happened.. look did you see it?! it just passed? oh god there it is again! damn another gen down!

 

It'll run things fine as they go for a good while, just don't expect the max settings to work out.

 

As far as framerates go.. that only matters in FPS/Fast action games so much.... Most are just fine and playable at 30+ (sad fact is, many console titles are actually locked at 30...), but not so much below that.. the need for 50-60 is an illusion in most titles...

Edited January 13, 2014 by GrimCW

[MLPForums Phanact 1,374]

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Yeah, like I said my opinion. I prefer AMD since they're towards budget building, and I already bought my x4 Athlon which people say that's like the top for price to performance ratio.

 

Meh, oh well. Either or, I don't care if he buys one or the other.

 

I care. I like trying to inform people so they can get the best for their money (:

 

x4 Athlon is a bottleneck. http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/229/AMD_Athlon_X4_760K_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-3570K.html - check that link. Sure the 3570K is about $50 more expensive but the difference is phenomenal.

[Milk Wave 454]

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Actually honey, look at the price compared to what I bought to the 3570k.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113329

 

to this.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

 

And yes I did buy the 740, but whatevs. I'm not doing any serious gaming really, so it works.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Milk Wave

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

Ah, okay. I agree with you for the FPS part. I even overclocked my monitor's refresh rate so I could enable vsync and sit at 70FPS rather than 60FPS.

The 770 is a beautiful card. Overclocks like a dream. I've got mine at 1306mhz core (stays stable at 1320 but it's just in case) and 7650mhz memory.

 

Still, you've got a good system there anyway! Stick with Intel for CPU's always but consider AMD GPU's as they really do offer better price to performance.

AMD used to make amazing processors. I prefer the Nvidia and Intel combo. My brother is running an AMD 7800 on his setup. I might actually get the 700 card, it's just hard to plan it out. I I get a 760, you think I would have to upgrade my i5 Ivy? I shouldn;t have to, but just in case.

 

I just got my tax returns. You think I could just pawn my graphics card? What an efficient way to sell them. A PC gamer who's avid is not going to by a 600 series card.

Edited January 13, 2014 by TheMarkz0ne

[MLPForums Phanact 1,374]

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Actually honey, look at the price compared to what I bought to the 3570k.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113329

 

to this.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

 

And yes I did buy the 740, but whatevs. I'm not doing any serious gaming really, so it works.

 

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/67/AMD_Athlon_X4_740_vs_Intel_Core_i3_i3-3240.html

 

There is a $24 difference between these processors. That i3 is the lowest Intel processor I could find and it still destroys the AMD one on pretty much every single benchmark.

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-AD740XOKHJBOX-Processor-3-20GHz-Technology/dp/B009O40UJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389639871&sr=8-1&keywords=athlon+740

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-3-40GHz-Graphics-Advanced-Extensions/dp/B008F65MQ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389639899&sr=8-1&keywords=i3+3240

AMD used to make amazing processors. I prefer the Nvidia and Intel combo. My brother is running an AMD 7800 on his setup. I might actually get the 700 card, it's just hard to plan it out. I I get a 760, you think I would have to upgrade my i5 Ivy? I shouldn;t have to, but just in case.

 

I just got my tax returns. You think I could just pawn my graphics card? What an efficient way to sell them. A PC gamer who's avid is not going to by a 600 series card.

 

GTX 760 is a great card!

 

A top-end i5 will not bottleneck any GPU at 1080p resolution, especially when overclocked. At 1440p and above, you might wanna start looking at i7's but I still think an i5 would cut it for the most part... Unless you're running GTX 780TI SLI or something xD

[GrimCW 658]

 

 

AMD used to make amazing processors. I prefer the Nvidia and Intel combo.

 

 

I used to be solid AMD until they bought ATI. ATI hasn't done well in ages sadly.. I used them a lot too years ago. But their clean up on textures was horrid. It made my chainmail armor in Everquest look like something out of minecraft. Just horribly pixelated.. Swapped to Nvidia and the texture cleanup made the rings look like armor again!

And thats just really sad given its not even a physical object in the game, just a texture shader :/

 

So I went Nvidia, and eventually (much to my dismay) Intel and can't say I've been disappointed yet. More games are turning to Nvidia technologies (and so far ATI/AMD's gfx tech has run naturally on Nvidia cards without even needing to be modified  ) as well as intel.. RIP AMD....

 

 

 

I have the 760 and its a wonderful card. Massive upgrade from my old 560

But it is just an upclocked 680... still an enthusiast card, but not really.. up there...

I run it with an i7 CPU and it runs great, the newer i5's should handle it really well too.

[MLPForums Phanact 1,374]

 

 

I used to be solid AMD until they bought ATI. ATI hasn't done well in ages sadly.. I used them a lot too years ago. But their clean up on textures was horrid. It made my chainmail armor in Everquest look like something out of minecraft. Just horribly pixelated.. Swapped to Nvidia and the texture cleanup made the rings look like armor again!

And thats just really sad given its not even a physical object in the game, just a texture shader :/

 

So I went Nvidia, and eventually (much to my dismay) Intel and can't say I've been disappointed yet. More games are turning to Nvidia technologies (and so far ATI/AMD's gfx tech has run naturally on Nvidia cards without even needing to be modified  ) as well as intel.. RIP AMD....

 

 

 

I have the 760 and its a wonderful card. Massive upgrade from my old 560

But it is just an upclocked 680... still an enthusiast card, but not really.. up there...

I run it with an i7 CPU and it runs great, the newer i5's should handle it really well too.

 

 

GTX 770 is an overclocked GTX 680.

 

GTX 760 is a completely new ASIC for the series. It's essentially just a GTX 660TI with one SMX unit disabled.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Essy*

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

My favorite games(some of them) Demon's Souls and Dark Souls should have been on the PC, I know Dark Souls is. But it was a console port and looks terrible. Demon's Souls 1080p 60FPS would be amazing. I edit on my rig, am only going back to gaming. I dual hook up. My TV uses the HDMI and my LED monitor uses DVI 1080p

[Milk Wave 454]

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AMD was still cheaper in price anyways, even if the i3 beat it by a little. Reason why I got it though is because there's been many more reccomends to get this then an Intel and i'd still rather get a quad core instead of a hyperthreaded dual.

 

And not to be offensive, but I dislike most of the Ivy Bridge series. I like the Haswell a decent bit and Sandy Bridge too. The only real Ivy Bridge things would be the Xeon E3 or an Intel Celeron. I'd be sold to Intel if they made an i3 quad without hyperthreading, but other then that I don't really move to them.

 

But yeah, that's just me.

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

https://www.youtube.com/user/BLACKB0ND/about

 

This guy is my favorite PC gamer on youtube. His rig is behind, but he is PC literate and is most likely going to upgrade. He just likes to down talk the Wii U lol

[GrimCW 658]

 

 

GTX 760 is a completely new ASIC for the series.

 

Not what the reviews said when I went digging around for it.. they said the 70 was the new one and the 60 was just the upgrade...

[MLPForums Phanact 1,374]

 

Not what the reviews said when I went digging around for it.. they said the 70 was the new one and the 60 was just the upgrade...

 

 

"The GTX 760 2GB sees a new core configuration for the now familiar GK104 Kepler GPU" - Bit-tech

 

Source: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/25/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-2gb-review/1

 

So yeah, the GTX 760 is different to the 660ti and 670. It's the 770 that is an overclocked GTX 680.

 

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1782/pg14/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-graphics-card-review-gainward-palit-and-zotac-gtx-760-oc-vs-gtx-770-oc.html

^ You'll notice the GTX 770 outperforms it massively.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Essy*

[GrimCW 658]

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Not sure how the new card ends up less than the old one upclocked.. but thats nvidia for ya

 

Either way its still a helluva card.

[The Ponyville Critic 304]

This guy's setup is almost exactly the same as mine, only that I have a more acceptable amount of RAM and a less powerful processor, which, I'm planning to upgrade to... an i5 3570k and a GTX 760.