Should we or should we not shun the lesser liked parts of the fandom?

[Stancet 688]

Please, why are you trying to excuse this behavior? The people who are looking at pony porn are in real life!

If I owned ponies, knowing the amount of clippers AKA perverts about, I'd be afraid to let them out!!

 

I'd prefer to believe that in real life people would be more professional than that. I'm not going to sugarcoat reality, bad things could happen. I'm just saying that some cloppers keep the show and their fantasies separate from each other.

[Virgil 685]

Shun, bully, or isolate? No, (I'll love and tolerate). Draw a distinction ( in other words do I, when asked about it, say if I think there is a problem with it)? Yes. So while I may find it morally wrong, as I do with all pornographic materials, and will say so when asked. I will not however refuse to hang around with such individuals or treat them with any less respect than anyone else. Simply because I'm quite certain my level of wickedness exceeds that of a clopper, because like most of the individuals on this forum, I've observed them to be very kind. They (cloppers) may be guilty of lust but I'm also guilty of that one too (just in a different form is all) and envy, wrath, sloth, and pride (which is just off the top of my head). And those are by far much more deadly.   

[IRegretThisWholePartOfM 58]

Yes I am. I bet that most, if not all cloppers have also searched for real human/pony porn!

Let me put this out there. I have owned two horses, and worked for a horse trainer for about 2-3 years, at one point personally helping to raise a small filly that was born to a horse i was taking care of. During that time, i had seen my fair share ammount of r34 MLP stuff, and not once, NOT ONCE did i ever think "This is awsome, maby i should do it to this real, living, breathing thing."

Im sorry, your argument is laughable, I understand what you mean, but please for the love of everything, think about what your writing before you write it.

[Geek0zoid 1,468]

I honestly think one of the biggest problems with our fandom is it's own freaking motto. We want to love and tolerate, but we really don't do a good job. That's not just one part of the fandom. It's every part.

 

 

In my completely honest opinion, no part of the fandom should be shunned, whether you're a clopper, grimdark, or whatever. Our motto is meant to say that we accept everyone, so let's do it. Otherwise, let's not even have the motto to begin with.

[The Ponyville Critic 304]

I honestly think one of the biggest problems with our fandom is it's own freaking motto. We want to love and tolerate, but we really don't do a good job. That's not just one part of the fandom. It's every part.

 

 

In my completely honest opinion, no part of the fandom should be shunned, whether you're a clopper, grimdark, or whatever. Our motto is meant to say that we accept everyone, so let's do it. Otherwise, let's not even have the motto to begin with.

 

What he said. Cloppers may be sexual deviants, but who the hell cares? I find the motto only half-true, we only tolerate, we don't love, and that's not a very good way of being a brony.

[Rarity Paige Belle 1,854]

What he said. Cloppers may be sexual deviants, but who the hell cares? I find the motto only half-true, we only tolerate, we don't love, and that's not a very good way of being a brony.

I care that that a lot of sick pervs can take a wholesome kids show and twist it for their own gratification! I'm surprised Hasbro still tolerates us. Even though I'm a Brony, I'd like to see Hasbro start to take action against some of the more extreme elements of our fandom.

[AlicornAcolyte 254]

I care that that a lot of sick pervs can take a wholesome kids show and twist it for their own gratification! I'm surprised Hasbro still tolerates us. Even though I'm a Brony, I'd like to see Hasbro start to take action against some of the more extreme elements of our fandom.

The Spanish Inquisition: http://youtu.be/sAn7baRbhx4

[Andaasonsan 3,205]

I care that that a lot of sick pervs can take a wholesome kids show and twist it for their own gratification! I'm surprised Hasbro still tolerates us. Even though I'm a Brony, I'd like to see Hasbro start to take action against some of the more extreme elements of our fandom.

An open letter to all "Cloppers"

 

We would really like it if you would stop masturbating to pony porn. Or at least try to cut back. Seriously, it's really weird.

 

Signed,

Hasbro

[ShadowRose2k 271]

The Spanish Inquisition: http://youtu.be/sAn7baRbhx4

I wasn't expecting that.

 

 

 

I care that that a lot of sick pervs can take a wholesome kids show and twist it for their own gratification! I'm surprised Hasbro still tolerates us. Even though I'm a Brony, I'd like to see Hasbro start to take action against some of the more extreme elements of our fandom.

Not gonna happen.  With any corporation.  If they are not lossing money, and if it is bringing more people (potential profits) to the licence I don't see them careing one bit.

 

They figure they will make their money and let the extremist go on a rampage, screaming and yelling to all the people out there that just don't care.

[Glitterheart 64]

If they're just doing stuff on their own time and not hurting anyone, I don't see what the problem is.  You're into r34 but I'm not?  That's cool, just don't send me links to r34 stuff.  You're a sexist douchebagel who's making this site really unpleasant for female users?  Sorry, clean up your act or GTFO.

 

I care that that a lot of sick pervs can take a wholesome kids show and twist it for their own gratification! I'm surprised Hasbro still tolerates us. Even though I'm a Brony, I'd like to see Hasbro start to take action against some of the more extreme elements of our fandom.

 

Please, why are you trying to excuse this behavior? The people who are looking at pony porn are in real life!
If I owned ponies, knowing the amount of clippers AKA perverts about, I'd be afraid to let them out!!

 

Insert "not sure if trolling" image here.

[Discordian 6,015]

The very idea that one should shun someone else because they don't agree with their lifestyles and hobby choices is exactly the same logic that most anti-bronies use. Don't be like them.

[Rarity Paige Belle 1,854]

If they're just doing stuff on their own time and not hurting anyone, I don't see what the problem is.  You're into r34 but I'm not?  That's cool, just don't send me links to r34 stuff.  You're a sexist douchebagel who's making this site really unpleasant for female users?  Sorry, clean up your act or GTFO.

 

 

 

 

 

Insert "not sure if trolling" image here.

Is it trolling to say that you think that people jacking off to pony porn is repellant?

[Obsidian Sky 14,004]

In my completely honest opinion, no part of the fandom should be shunned, whether you're a clopper, grimdark, or whatever. Our motto is meant to say that we accept everyone, so let's do it.

And that is it! That right there!

 

If we shun the clopper, grimdark or whatever part of the fandom we are not better than the mlp-haters who bash on something they don't want to understand or tolerate. I would have thought that Bronies, who have quite a history of beeing rediculed and hated, would have more tolerance for minorities in their own fandom.

 

In my opinion, if you watch the show and still bash on these groups, you learned nothing from it. It goes against everything the show tries to teach.

 

I don't clop, maybe i will try it someday, i don't know. I don't really like grimdark storys, too bad for my mood. But i will not judge/avoid/bully people because they do.

Edited March 16, 2014 by Obsidian Sky

[Rarity Paige Belle 1,854]

You know it seems like everybody on here is likening hating cloppers to something like racial discrimination! It's not people, this is the reason bronies have such a bad reputation! If we were more vocal against some of the more disturbing elements ln in our fandom maybe people would tolerate us more!

[Archer Dash 163]

Um, these Ponies are alien. Sapient in the mind, so it technically makes it xenophilia. Same as Commander Shepard dating sapient aliens.  

 

It's up too Google to make better filters then.

As much as I'm not into this kind of stuff, I can understand how people could do this.

Now furries on the otherhand.  Blech.

 

[Rockymoo 2,137]

Y'see, son, it's not the viewers or even producers we should be distancing ourselves from, it's the material itself. If you don't like clop and a clopper knows it, common courtesy would drive them to not post clop links or whatever when talking to the non-clopper.

Personally, I don't mind looking at it because I actually think it's hilarious, but still.

 

Yes! We need to get rid of the scum who rule34 MLP, because in my eyes, they're little better than pedo's!!!!

This gave me a good chuckle. Thanks for the laugh, mate.

[Rarity Paige Belle 1,854]

Y'see, son, it's not the viewers or even producers we should be distancing ourselves from, it's the material itself. If you don't like clop and a clopper knows it, common courtesy would drive them to not post clop links or whatever when talking to the non-clopper.

Personally, I don't mind looking at it because I actually think it's hilarious, but still.

 

 

This gave me a good chuckle. Thanks for the laugh, mate.

Hey, I always aim to please!

[Obsidian Sky 14,004]

You know it seems like everybody on here is likening hating cloppers to something like racial discrimination! It's not people, this is the reason bronies have such a bad reputation! If we were more vocal against some of the more disturbing elements ln in our fandom maybe people would tolerate us more!

I would rather have a bad reputation then backstab an innocent part of the fandom for my own gains, and i don't want to be tolerated more by closeminded haters.

[-Zephyr- 84]

Every fandom has it's parts which are more controversial, I think that diversity is what makes the brony community so great and you should really accept all parts of the fandom , even things I really don't like grimdark or murder or gore I suppose some people do enjoy them so... yeah  

[Solar Cloud 493]

You know it seems like everybody on here is likening hating cloppers to something like racial discrimination! It's not people, this is the reason bronies have such a bad reputation! If we were more vocal against some of the more disturbing elements ln in our fandom maybe people would tolerate us more!

Except this is not exclusive to our fandom. Every fandom has people like this. And even if we crack down on clopping(which we shouldn't) they'll just find something different to hate on us about.

[Rarity Paige Belle 1,854]

I would rather have a bad reputation then backstab an innocent part of the fandom for my own gains, and i don't want to be tolerated more by closeminded haters.

What is innocent about looking at pics of people screwing toon ponies?

Except this is not exclusive to our fandom. Every fandom has people like this. And even if we crack down on clopping(which we shouldn't) they'll just find something different to hate on us about.

Put it like this. Either we crack down on clopping, or sooner or later, Hasbro will crack down on our fandom. Remember, bronies make up a minority of their customers. A lot of the money we spend on MLP (conventions) etc doesn't even go to Hasbro.

[Discordian 6,015]

You know it seems like everybody on here is likening hating cloppers to something like racial discrimination! It's not people, this is the reason bronies have such a bad reputation! If we were more vocal against some of the more disturbing elements ln in our fandom maybe people would tolerate us more!

You act like being a clopper somehow automatically puts some sort of negative label on them. One aspect of them suddenly makes them a bad person? You know most bronies are functioning teens and adults in society. It wouldn't be at all surprising to find some of the more upstanding members of the community were actually cloppers.

 

This doesn't just apply to bronies either. In human society there are many, many fetishes out there. Some can be considered weird but it happens. People are into weird things. For the most part it does nothing to harm anyone as most of it is kept private and what's not is easy to ignore.

 

With what you've said in this topic you're implying that every person who is a clopper is somehow some depraved member of society who would go out and rape an actual child or pony given the chance but they wouldn't. Not even taking into account the differences between an animated, no-anatomy, personality-driven pony character and an actual pony who is just an animal and cannot understand things on the same level as a human being you're basically saying that these people have no control over such urges, that they don't contribute to the community or society on the exact same level as every other non-clopping member of the fandom and that they are somehow dangerous.

 

Sure enough people will turn away from the fandom knowing that such people exist but people do the same thing for every other culture, fandom or society. Certain parts of these groups will look bad to another group and thus will make them want to turn away. That's not something you can help. The very idea of being a brony and liking ponies is enough to drive people away.

 

So do I think we should shun people who do it? Hell no. You can ignore it's existence and being a brony isn't some high-bred society where more members somehow gives us more power. It's just a fandom. We have no power over anything so the inclusion or exclusion of certain members isn't going to change the fact that they are still, in fact, a part of the fandom. You can drive them away from forums but it won't stop them from being there. These people can also be some of our best friends. You don't like to hear about it from them? Ask them not to bring it up around you. Simple as that.

Edited March 17, 2014 by Discordian

[Solar Cloud 493]

What is innocent about looking at pics of people screwing toon ponies?

Put it like this. Either we crack down on clopping, or sooner or later, Hasbro will crack down on our fandom. Remember, bronies make up a minority of their customers. A lot of the money we spend on MLP (conventions) etc doesn't even go to Hasbro.

So you're saying Hasbro should make a huge uproar about this thus letting all the parents out there know that something like this exists on the internet  Our fandom would be shut down faster than Rainbow can fly.

Edited March 16, 2014 by Solar Cloud

[Andaasonsan 3,205]

If you want to take away my pony porn, you'll have to pry it from my cold, dead HAND!

[Obsidian Sky 14,004]

What is innocent about looking at pics of people screwing toon ponies?

They are cartoon ponies, it does not really hurt anybody that some people fantasize about making love to a sentient cartoon horse, its just a harmless fetish.... thus innocent.