Is Rule 34 a Good Thing?

[Cyan Blue 946]

@Deathstroke and @Cyan Blue

Tone it down a bit, pls

Insults and such

I'm not insulting him, but I will tone it down...

[Dattebayo 2,850]

I'm not "blaming porn" for anything. If I came off that way, then I misspoke and I apologize.

 

No, it's not porn's fault, it's the people's fault. Porn—like pretty much every tool mankind can use, both good and evil—has no power but what humanity gives it. I just think that porn is one tool that humanity ought not use.

 

So--and let me get this straight...

 

You're saying that no one should watch porn? Or that porn is being used for bad things?

[Cyan Blue 946]

As a matter of fact, yes.  That's exactly what I meant.  We've been on this earth little over a decade, our minds aren't nearly done developing, we are prone to rebellious thought rather than rational thought, and most teenagers seem to let their hormones run them instead of their minds.

 

So, your point is? What does this have to do with anything?

[ReGen 1,466]

In fact, I remember reading somewhere that people would also make what amounts to r34 fanfic of Shakespeare and Charles Dickens stories back in the Elizabethan and Victorian eras. If those guys went untainted after all this time, I think we'll be alright.

 

I legitimately want to read some of those.

 

It seems that the general consensus is that as long as it feels good and doesn't directly harm anyone else, it's perfectly fine.

 

And what's wrong with that? If it doesn't harm anyone and it feels good, then it is fine.

[Henny Penny Benny 936]

So--and let me get this straight...

 

You're saying that no one should watch porn? Or that porn is being used for bad things?

 

Yes, I am saying that no one should watch porn. In my opinion, there is no real good that can come of it. It may be pleasing, but pleasure is not the same as actual good.

[ReGen 1,466]

We've been on this earth little over a decade, our minds aren't nearly done developing, we are prone to rebellious thought rather than rational thought, and most teenagers seem to let their hormones run them instead of their minds.

 

That's a bit insulting, honestly.

[Bunnyhop123 194]

So, your point is? What does this have to do with anything?

You said teenagers should know better.  They don't.

[Dattebayo 2,850]

I'm not insulting him, but I will tone it down...

Nonono, calling haters f*ckfaces.

There happens to be people who you are refering to in this thread very thread, don't want them to report y'all, docha know.

 

As a matter of fact, yes. That's exactly what I meant. We've been on this earth little over a decade, our minds aren't nearly done developing, we are prone to rebellious thought rather than rational thought, and most teenagers seem to let their hormones run them instead of their minds.

A rebellious thought would be saying that porn is bad, especially considering your logic of "all teens think with their dink"

 

Just saying.

[Henny Penny Benny 936]

I legitimately want to read some of those.

 

 

And what's wrong with that? If it doesn't harm anyone and it feels good, then it is fine.

 

By your morals perhaps, and evidently the morals held to by the general population. I just happen to passionately disagree with that idea of morality.

[ReGen 1,466]

Yes, I am saying that no one should watch porn. In my opinion, there is no real good that can come of it. It may be pleasing, but pleasure is not the same as actual good.

 

Then by that logic, people should stop making music, shooting movies and baking cookies. They don't do anyone any real good!

[Cyan Blue 946]

Nonono, calling haters f*ckfaces.

There happens to be people who you are refering to in this thread very thread, don't want them to report y'all, docha know.

 

A rebellious thought would be saying that porn is bad, especially considering your logic of "all teens think with their dink"

 

Just saying.

 

Who? I haven't seen anyone hate on cloppers yet, calling us weirdo's doesn't count, but, whatever. I will tone it down.

[ghostfacekiller39 23,857]

Yes, I am saying that no one should watch porn. In my opinion, there is no real good that can come of it. It may be pleasing, but pleasure is not the same as actual good.

Just because it's your opinion doesn't justify the fact that you're trying to deny people something they clearly enjoy based on your own personal belief system, rather than what's for the greater good - and the greater good is letting other people live their lives as they see fit, as long as it doesn't cause harm.

[Shanks 10,811]

I know that no matter what people will work to make the fandom or just people look bad and to hate them, If I appeared self righteous then sorry and I'm not trying to guilt trip anyone into not enjoying it,

I didn't mean to imply you were but there are many many people that are about those matters and do guilt trip people about it so I appreciate that you are not doing any of that.

[Bunnyhop123 194]

Nonono, calling haters f*ckfaces.

There happens to be people who you are refering to in this thread very thread, don't want them to report y'all, docha know.

 

A rebellious thought would be saying that porn is bad, especially considering your logic of "all teens think with their dink"

 

Just saying.

I said, "most teenagers let their hormones run them. . ."  Not all, though it's hard to escape.

Edited July 23, 2014 by TSG

[Deathstroke 1,564]

Yes, I am saying that no one should watch porn. In my opinion, there is no real good that can come of it. It may be pleasing, but pleasure is not the same as actual good.

Really? So what you say is that everyone in this world must follow the "stop liking what i dislike" rule? 

Edited July 23, 2014 by Deathstroke

[Orablanco Account 3,706]

I said, "most teenagers let their hormones run them. . ."  Not all.

 

Mmmm, no, you were making some pretty big blanket statements there.

[Cyan Blue 946]

You said teenagers should know better.  They don't.

Ok, I see, but based off the teenagers of today, most of them know about puberty and masturbating, etc. Since most are either going through it or done it.

[Dattebayo 2,850]

Yes, I am saying that no one should watch porn. In my opinion, there is no real good that can come of it. It may be pleasing, but pleasure is not the same as actual good.

Aaaaaand there goes the credibility.

To think I thought you meant the other thing...

 

 

No need for porn. Lol.

Just because you don't like porn, and you find no use for it, mean that NO ONE should find use for it, and on top of that, you're saying that no one should because it's evil and used for evil things by evil people.

 

Seems legit

[Bunnyhop123 194]

Ok, I see, but based off the teenagers of today, most of them know about puberty and masturbating, etc. Since most are either going through it or done it.

Some people don't hit puberty until 16.  This forum allows people at the least aged 13, and some join before that.  

[Banul 3,831]

It always confuses me when people are so quick to yell "Wont somebody think of the children!?" when it comes to sex, as if seeing a naked body is going to ruin their life. In my opinion, the only reason people think this way is because of generations of shaming the act of sex, because there's nothing inherently evil about it. Its completely natural, really. So rule 34 art seems as natural to me as any other kind. Its exploring an aspect of being human using popular characters. Sometimes people use those characters in a way that I think make them act in a way that they wouldn't usually. That's the only time I find rule 34 art distasteful.

 

Fun fact: I once stumbled onto a gay porn site when I was like 11 or something. I know now that the pictures we're pretty graphic, but at the time I didn't even know what it was so I left the site and moved on. Didn't realize what had happened until much later. Moral of the story, seeing porn doesn't affect a child as much as people think.

 

And how lightly people treat sex? It seems that the general consensus is that as long as it feels good and doesn't directly harm anyone else, it's perfectly fine. It's to the point where even limiting sexual encounters to serious dating relationships seems virtuous. It's like it's considered perfectly reasonable for people to act purely on blind impulse when it comes to sex, because sex is often treated as little more than a way to feel good. And that bothers me. To me, sex ought to be something genuinely special, something that's only done with one other person, something exclusive and deeply intimate. I know it's just my worldview and I don't mean to force it on anyone else, but it's still what I believe. And Rule 34 just straight up shits on that belief.
 

 

I'm of the opinion that having casual sex doesn't devalue the more intimate kind that you would have with a partner. Its not the sex that makes it special, its the person you're having sex with. But I do understand where you are coming from.

[Cyan Blue 946]

Some people don't hit puberty until 16.  This forum allows people at the least aged 13, and some join before that.  

I really have no argument there..

[Henny Penny Benny 936]

Then by that logic, people should stop making music, shooting movies and baking cookies. They don't do anyone any real good!

 

Hmm, I reckon I didn't explain myself as fully as I ought to have. My bad.

 

It's not just that porn doesn't do any real good, but that I believe it is genuinely harmful. I believe that sexual purity is, in and of itself, something morally worth upholding.

[Dattebayo 2,850]

Who? I haven't seen anyone hate on cloppers yet, calling us weirdo's doesn't count, but, whatever. I will tone it down.

I just don't wanna see that awesome "this thread has been a source of countless reports" post at the end of this locked thread, is all.

 

this is an engaging discussion, and for once, I'm not alone.

I'd rather keep it open xD

[Guest90210 3,567]

Just gonna slip a little comment into this thread before it gets locked,

 

It isn't "good" or necessarily "bad". It's just there, and always will be whether anyone likes it or not.

[ghostfacekiller39 23,857]

Some people don't hit puberty until 16.  This forum allows people at the least aged 13, and some join before that.  

This forum also doesn't allow R34 or any NSFW content whatsoever.