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Hi! I am new here to the blog! My name is rainbowfast87! Anyways back to the topic, so I kind of disagree on that. In the first movie, Princess Celestia said that Sunset Shimmer was a student long before Twilight. I think Hasbro used Sunset Shimmer as an excuse to explain how everything in the games work. Just as LittleShyFIM says:

( There might be some foul language in this video, but I have not seen it enough times to actually say that it does. Prepare yourselves)

 

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A popular point brought up about friendship games is that Sunset should already know about the games. 

 

I would like to refute this by pointing out the progression of the photos of Sunset's coronations that we saw in the first movie.

 

There are three, and the coronation is annual, meaning Sunset has been in CHS for three years.

 

The games happen every four years, so Sunset wouldn't have heard about the games.

 

Also, given the fact that for the better part of those three years she was a bully who everyone was afraid of, no one would have told her about the games.

 

Just something I wanted said. :)

That just suggests she wasn't there to see them herself. She might have heard about them. Also, consider the pictures in that progression.

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The first photo, she looks genuinely surprised and happy to have been crowned Princess of the Fall Formal. Add to that, she's dressed in white (symbolizing purity) It's likely that she didn't get her bully reputation until after at least that first year she won when the Games would have only happened the previous year and so have been a relatively common topic of conversation. So it's not impossible she was told about the games.

 

Of course, it isn't guaranteed that she DID hear about them; but it can't be ruled out either.

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@MindPalace, I went ahead and merged your post with the main Friendship Games topic. 

Thanks!

 

That just suggests she wasn't there to see them herself. She might have heard about them. Also, consider the pictures in that progression.

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The first photo, she looks genuinely surprised and happy to have been crowned Princess of the Fall Formal. Add to that, she's dressed in white (symbolizing purity) It's likely that she didn't get her bully reputation until after at least that first year she won when the Games would have only happened the previous year and so have been a relatively common topic of conversation. So it's not impossible she was told about the games.

 

Of course, it isn't guaranteed that she DID hear about them; but it can't be ruled out either.

Valid point.

 

Maybe everyone was just "Hey guys shush we cant let the new girl know about how we lose every single time."

 

P.S. Even when its being used as a point of analysis, that pic still makes me laugh.

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I'm slightly dissapointed with this EG movie. It was still better than the first, but it could have been much more. Unlike the previous two installments, the Mane 7 (without Twilight) aren't actively trying to stop a villain or save Equestria. Only Sunset Shimmer has the responsibility of understanding and stopping magic at the Friendship Games, and it wasn't until the end of the movie that their world and Equestria were put in danger. Before, the ponies had a strong motive to win something: at  first Princess of the Fall Formal to get the element of harmony back, then a band competition to stop the Dazzlings. This time, there was no purpose behind competing in the Games besides just trying to win. Also, I believe that while still good, the music here wasn't as great as usual.

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First of all, thank Celestia that waifu theif Flash Sentry wasn't in it too much. Also, I wanted a longer Dragonball-Z style fight between Twilight and Sunset Shimmer and I'm still waiting for them to show off more villains from the show in the human universe.

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so, I've watched this movie yesterday, and well...here I go!

 

I felt like hasbro wanted to go full ghibli with this opening (you know, the violet magic running around an' stuff). it kinda felt out of place in this girly highschool-setting (which I totally love, by the way). but the opening-song was way better than in the first movie. ugh.

 

I also liked that they involved the twilight sparkle from the human world, even though one thing is bothering me: the equestrian magic brought to he human world in the first movie is the only magic that exists there, asides from the sirens'. how in the world was twilight able to measure and track it, and how the HECK did she UNKNOWINGLY create a machine that drains magic and turns people into demons? how is that even possible in the human world? I can't wait to see Silver Quill going crazy about this.

 

but overall, I really liked sci-twi. she was awkward, nerdy, and downright adorable. which makes me hate cinch even more. she was not only annoying, but also incredibly boring. I like her even less than starlight glimmer. her motives, her whole character was kinda cliche, like they just copypasted the "strict, elitar principal"-type of villain from all of the teenager-movies. she blackmailed sci-twi (why do we even call her that?) just to win a school game for reputation-reasons. I mean c'mon. out of all the villain-motives, this is the most boring one. heck, even Discords "I do it for the lolz"-motive is better than this.

 

but I totally love how the people react to magic. because they don't. "Hey, a giant plant-tentacle-thingy is trying to F*CKING KILL our students and is currently trying to FREAKING EAT one! What? What are you saying? 'Interrupt the games and make sure that your students are ok and still have all of their limbs?' Nah." also, all of the canterlot high or crystal prep-students simply swallowed the fact that there is magic "like I give a f*ck!", but when cinch threatens to "tell mommy about it", everybody acts like nobody would believe her. hello? giant, obvious portal in the middle of the school (which I still don't believe no one used by accident. don't tell me nobody ever leaned against this thing), girls turning into hybrids when they sing, and three sirens getting defeated by a giant, rainbow-firing unicorn? we are either supposed to believe that no one outside the school noticed any of these events, or that the students (who all have smartphones with them, as I remind you) never recorded this or told anybody about the obviously magical stuff happening in this school. I mean...how comes this school hasn't been "democratised and freed" yet?

 

but now for my favourite point: sunset shimmer. before I watched these movies, I though she would be a starlight-kind of character, and I was surprised and amazed to find out that she totally wasn't. she works hard to get a new reputation, to make up for her past sins, and she shows sci-twi the way to do so herself. she has pretty much taken the spot of pony-twilight in this world, which is kinda refreshing to see. twilight has a student on her own now and doesn't have to carry all these burdens by herself anymore. it's an awesome idea and very well done.

 

overall, I have mixed feelings about this movie. there are lots of funny moments as always, and to see the human five living up to their elements and helping sci-twi really was a new, good idea. along with sci-twi, sunset is (at least to me) the star of this movie, and they both do a good job, but that's not enough to cover up the giant flaw: that nobody bats an eye about demons, zombies, sirens, giant badass-unicorns and human-pony-hybrids (which also have wings, as I remind you! HOW DID NOBODY CALL THE CIA ALREADY?).

 

one last question: twilight was busy during the whole movie with fighting starlight glimmer, which is why she only appeared during the end. BUT! this was a timetravel-issue. she traveled into the past, and then into the future, but she still had starswirls timetravel-scroll, which means that she should've been able to come back just a few seconds after she "vanished" from the castle. wait, why didn't she use the scroll in the first place to come back a few seconds before starlight enters her castle so she could catch her by surprise and kick her flank? but well, that's an issue for another thread.

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About friendship and about that reputation means nothing

 

we kinda got the friendship-lesson when the human five treated sci-twi like a friend even though they were enemies. they were nice towards her, even though they didn't really know her. they wanted to help her regardless of the games, and that was pretty awesome. but I think there just wasn't enough time to kick cinchs ass a little bit more and showing her that she was holding on to a stupid reputation that nobody gave a flying f*ck about. would've been nice though.

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Alright, I finally gave this movie (about 4th in total) re-watch yesterday, so I guess I can give a nice review now. Of course, I'll miss something, as I've probably missed something while watching too, but... nah.

 

To begin with, I love Friendship Games muuuuch more than Rainbow Rocks, which I see is a pretty unpopular opinion here. Not to be taken wrong, I really love Rainbow Rocks, much more than original movie, for sure. Sirens were awesome (I want to hug Sonata <3), and Sunset Shimmer was as well. Even though it hurt me seeing her having such hard time fitting in, even among Rainbooms, I thought it was much more realistic than them accepting her right away after all she did to them. Never mind, this isn't the topic about RR anyway.

 

Back to FG, or at least, its most important points.

 

  • I was skeptical when I heard the concept of "evil Twilight", but now... Sci-Twi might be my favorite character in the whole franchise. I might actually like her more than her pony counterpart, which I never thought would happen, since Twilight has a special place in my heart since the first episode. But Sci-Twi... She was such a sweet, innocent, nerdy girl who actually wants friends, but was always an outcast, just like Principal Cinch said. She was in the place where these qualities were definitely not reputable at the very moment, which made her feel incredibly insecure and awkward. That's something I can relate to a lot, so I really know how she felt. It was nice to see that she wasn't as competitive as her classmates were, she literally only participated in the games because she was blackmailed into doing it. It was obvious that all she wanted through the Games is to see them end. Literally. She didn't enjoy a moment, and Cinch realized that and took it to her own advantage. I also loved her interaction with Rainbooms, and how she had no problem talking to them, despite knowing that she's from the other team and that they have quite good reasons not to like her. Do I have to mention that she's so adorable with that bun, glasses and in school uniform!? <3
  • Sunset Shimmer is the second most important character, in my opinion. She was amazing here as well and I love her deeply. She was finally accepted by everyone at CHS which was lovely to see, but it was also hurtful to see how much she still blamed herself. She wanted to help, but mainly because she knew that it was her responsibility that magic even is in the human world in the first place. She had almost no confidence in her own abilities, and therefore kept trying to contact Twilight, which frustrated her even more - Princess didn't respond, and, actually, seemed completely unreachable. Her face when she saw Sci-Twi and thought that she was pony Twilight was sooo adorable, I felt sorry for her! Anyhow, I'm glad it was her who actually took the role of the leader, in absence of Twilight, She was the one who definitely knew most about magic in the group, since she was a gifted unicorn from Equestria, and also a Celestia's student. She didn't only "come from the world of magic", she was actually studying it, pretty seriously. Plus, the fact that the whole group actually trusted her as their leader showed that they finally accepted her completely. I loved how she found Friendship Games "silly" and didn't understand the point of all that rivalry, because that's how I feel about school rivalries as well. Pretty much, that was one thing she and Sci-Twi had in common. But, unlike Sci-Twi, she actually wanted to compete and represent her school in its best light, alongside her friends. I loved when she showed her "darker side" while yelling at Twilight, and how she ate herself up after that, after she realized that she overdid it and hurt Twilight's feelings.
  • Other Rainbooms were awesome as well, and finally each of them had their time to shine! Somehow, in the Equestria Girls and Rainbow Rocks, I felt like Twilight and Sunset got all the spotlight, and the other girls were just there as additions, who would eventually just say some lines that are usually forgettable and not at all that relevant to the plot. This time, it wasn't the case. Probably because of that "pony up when you show your element" concept, they all had to express it somehow, and actually add to the plot that way. Fluttershy was so sweet, when she handed Twilight bunny. And, of course, the "Especially since she obviously didn't mean to do all the stuff she did! She's actually really nice!" scene was so adorable! Very tactless, Fluttershy, very tactless, but still adorable. I also loved Applejack's scene a lot. She didn't only express honesty there (even though, I get that was the man purpose), but also the fact that helping others in need is way more important than the competition. She couldn't stand watching the way Twilight was suffering and abuse she got from Sour Sweet, and even other teammates. That was really nice of you, AJ. Rainbow Dash ponied up twice, if I remember correctly, both times when she was expressing loyalty, first time when singing to CHS, and the second time when she saved Sunset. That was awesome, even though, I do have some issues with the second scene. Rarity ponied up when she made them costumes... nothing unexpected, to be honest. I always wished we saw more of her generous side than that costume-making (not only in EQG, but also in FiM!) but never mind. I somehow always felt that she does that more for herself than for others anyhow. I loved that scene where she comforts Sunset by reminding her that what they needed to defeat Sirens was - her. It was really nice. And Pinkieeee! I loved her "pony-up scene", how she set a party that completely broke the ice, and made students from both schools forget about competition and actually enjoy themselves together! That's the real Pinkie. I loved how Sci-Twi helped her too, even though she was obviously confused.
  • And now... Principal Cinch. OK, I see that she gets a lot of hate, and I hate her too, but I definitely don't consider her a bad villain. Just the opposite - in my eyes, she's actually a very good villain. She's not a magical creature from Equestria, she's not a power-seeking demon. She's none of these. She's just a typical, realistic manipulative psychopath, and that's what makes her scariest. People like her can be seen in the streets. You can actually meet someone who'll use you the way she was using Twilight (and other students, actually, but mainly Twilight). She didn't care at all for her students. I actually think she didn't care for Crystal Prep as well, she was only caring for its reputation because it was also her reputation. Practically - she only cared for herself. But she was indeed very clever. She knew Twilight's weaknesses perfectly, she knew how important her studies and going to Everton are for her. That's why she decided to blackmail her into participating in the games with it. She knew that Twilight simply couldn't reject it. But first, she made Cadance and Shining Armor leave, so that they couldn't see what she was having in mind. She kept doing it during the Games as well, when she made Twilight spy on the Rainbooms (what happened to it, anyway?) and in the end - the song. It's one of the creepiest villain songs I've heard, ever. And it really showed how great manipulator Cinch is. I don't see that anyone mentioned it here, but the very important part of it is the very beginning of the song. "I realize that you've always been an outcast." Well played, Cinch. Well played. Again - she attacked Twilight's feelings to make her do what she wants, but this time in much more subtle manner. This sentence seems so irrelevant to the whole song, and in general, it is. Its actual purpose was to make Twilight as vulnerable as possible, so that she'd be easier to manipulate. Apparently, Cinch noticed that Twilight didn't like being alone and mocked by everyone and - she used that to her own advantage, again. This time, pretty successfully. Making her vulnerable, she could use the more transparent ways of manipulation, not worrying that much that Twilight would resist to them. And still, she kept on saying that "Twilight has to unleash the magic, so that she can understand it", which was obviously not her true intention, which I'm pretty sure Twilight noticed too. But she wanted to believe it was her intention, since she didn't want to see Cinch and other Crystal Prep students as her enemies. Plus, she really didn't want to be the one responsible for losing the games, especially after being emotionally attacked like that. Seems rather hard to take? In the end, Cinch just left proudly, when she realized that - not only CHS students and Celestia, Luna and Cadance stood up to her, but also her students, who were so loyal to her before. I honestly wonder what happened to her later.
  • I really wish we met Shadowbolts better, though. They actually seem pretty awesome, but were severely underused. Sour Sweet even had some lines, but most of them had max two or three of them, which was sad. I don't see their "redemption" in the end of the movie rushed at all. It would have been indeed very rushed, if they were actually evil. But I don't think they were. I don't even think they were at all that mean, either. They were just ambitious students, who went to the school that valued that ambition. And, unlike CHS, Crystal Prep seemed to value individual work more than teamwork, which can explain why Sour Sweet didn't even think of helping Twilight when she was having problems with aiming the target, even though that would also bring her and the rest of the team benefits. They were most likely also manipulated by Cinch into thinking that winning is all that matters, and, being as ambitious as the were, they got it pretty seriously. Don't forget that they showed their "lighter side" on Pinkie's party too. They seemed to actually enjoy themselves there, just as much as CHS students, and even interacted with them. They were just taken off by the excitement of competition and all that rivalry, which is something that happens to all of us. Don't forget Applejack and Rainbow Dash in Fall Weather Friends, who were, in my opinion, much worse sports there than Shadowbolts were in FG (at least, Shadowbolts were playing fair most of the time, if we exclude manipulating Twilight part). I'm glad they learned their lesson (not only Shadowblots, but also Wondercolts!), and that probably these Games ended that rivalry part, even though I'm sure the competitive side on the future Games will continue, which is fine, since competitions aren't fun without it. I'm really sorry they didn't keep that detail from the deleted scenes where one of the Shadowbolts girls says that, no matter what Cinch says, making friends with CHS students is much more fun than playing against them, though. That would have added much to their characters.
  • Ending was predictable and a bit cliche but nice. Tara Strong sounds awesome as a villain! I honestly don't get how come Twilight turned into power-crazed monster, but oh well. Maybe that has something to do with the bitterness she felt about being manipulated the way she was, but she really didn't feel like someone who'd put her desire to know everything before the safety of her fellow students, and pretty much, her whole world. But, that's Equestria Girls, so - we'll forgive them for that. Apparently, it can't pass without a monster who wants to take over the world. Maybe it also has something to do with her being lonely, and the magic she was using was the magic of friendship? Actually, that makes much more sense. I loved that it was Sunset who stopped her, and the way she did it. She told Twilight that she understands her, because she was going through the same thing before. She didn't judge her. And I'm pretty sure no one would be able to do it better than her. The whole scene was very touching. And... Spike part! The fact that even power-crazy Twilight, who didn't seem to care about anything, actually did care for Spike speaks a lot. Their bond was really something special in this movie, and throughout most of the movie, he was practically her only friend. I loved it. I'm glad she transferred to CHS too. It might offer her less about her education, but she didn't need it that much anyway. Crystal Prep was obviously too easy for her anyway. She wanted to learn about friendship, and CHS is the great place for that. The scene where she met pony Twilight is hilarious but incredibly sweet.

Some less important parts, which I noticed include: Shining Armor was such an asshole. He obviously knew that Games weren't really "Twilight's thing", but he was still on Cinch's side. Pony Shining Armor would never do that. A bit more lighter subject was Luna and Cadence's relationship. They seem to be such good friends. But Luna mentions that seeing Cadance means another defeat. Does that mean that they never see each other outside of Friendship Games? It's actually rather sad. I also wonder if that world's Cadence will also end up with Shining Armor. Many questions left unanswered, but that's what makes it more interesting.

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I was honestly a little disappointed with it... After Rainbow Rocks I was expecting something just as epic! The plot wasn't as good I think. They could have done something better with the concept (the school competing) but the whole magic taking over thing was a little much in my opinion... and it was a little random! The music was ok... but again, not as good as Rainbow Rocks in my opinion. I can't wait for the new EG movie though! I have a feeling that one is gonna be good!

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Aww, they were so close!  They were sooooo close to permanently separating the two universes, which is what they should have done from the beginning!  Why, WHY, WHY did they have to throw in that post-credit cameo of pony Twilight?!!  Really though, imo, Celestia should have destroyed the portal on the Equestria side the moment that Twilight retrieved her crown.

 

Anyway, this was the best EG movie by far, but....well....y'know....  that's like saying that Revenge of the Sith is the best of the prequel trilogy....so...  um... ... ...yeeeeeeah....

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I personally loved it! I liked it better than the first movie for sure. I've heard a 4th movie is confirmed as well.

 

I think the songs were amazing, especially unleash the magic..

i found myself enjoying this film. and yess!! :D

 

CAN't WAIT FOR THE FOURTH ONE TO BE RELEASED

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