Will Starlight Glimmer become Twilight Sparkles Pupil?

[Mesme Rize 15,687]

I was just going through Derpibooru and found this very spoilerific Picture:

 

 

Do they actually make Starlight Glimmer Twilights Friendship Student? This seems like something very official and was supposedly also revealed on EQD.

 

So, how do you feel about the idea, of Starlight becoming Twilights Pupil.

 

To be honest, i would be okay with that and i actually thought of this as a possibility months ago.

 

Starlight Glimmer is a pony that would be interesting. Most people don't see it, but she has alot of things going on. She kidnapped the Mane 6, and tried to brainwash them and then if the finale predictions are true, she literally tried to ruin their entire lives and make them miserable for her own gain. Everyone but Twilight would be Discord tier suspicious and untrusting of her. That could be the basis of some good interaction.

 

She has absolutely no idea what it's like to have any sort of friends, or atleast her perception of it is completly off, when we remember what she did in the cutie map. Twilight could teach her about all of that.

 

 

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,803]

This would be such a cool concept, though I hope the other theory is true. There is a strong theory going around that Starlight is somehow Shining and Cadence's daughter from the future, it would be cool if she became her pupil in the proper timeline, but that is IF any of that stuff happens, which it may not. I hope so though.

 

If not, then this would be really cool. Having Twilight teach Starlight what Celestia taught her would be such a nice thing to see. Also, notice how the description says 'pupils', it is plural. That is another interesting thing. 

[Mesme Rize 15,687]

This would be such a cool concept, though I hope the other theory is true. There is a strong theory going around that Starlight is somehow Shining and Cadence's daughter from the future, it would be cool if she became her pupil in the proper timeline, but that is IF any of that stuff happens, which it may not. I hope so though.

 

If not, then this would be really cool. Having Twilight teach Starlight what Celestia taught her would be such a nice thing to see. Also, notice how the description says 'pupils', it is plural. That is another interesting thing. 

 

I think this is a bit too big of a concept for this kinda show, so i don't see it happening. But hey, maybe i am wrong.

[Megas 27,786]

I was hoping they wouldn't go this route, but I guess they are. It'll be interesting to see where they go with this to say the least

Edited November 2, 2015 by ChicksDigGiantRobots

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,803]

I think this is a bit too big of a concept for this kinda show, so i don't see it happening. But hey, maybe i am wrong.

Yeah, I am not holding my breathe on it, but one can dream I suppose. What you say sounds far more likely.

[MAIKUN 262]

I doubt it...Starlight might become one of the recurring villains on this show, just like The Reverse-Flash!

[Mesme Rize 15,687]

I doubt it...Starlight might become one of the recurring villains on this show, just like The Reverse-Flash!

 

They haven't done recurring villains before and they won't start now.

 

Besides, this is not a DC Comic.

[Cleverclover 1,526]

Ugh, not another reformed villain....

[Mesme Rize 15,687]

Ugh, not another reformed villain....

 

Friendship is magic man.

[Lucky Shot 232]

That's absolutely the stupidest possible thing that they could do, so I'm 100% sure that is exactly what they're going to do.

Edited November 2, 2015 by Lucky Shot

[Sidral Mundet 1,666]

Well I'm looking forward to the finale as much as I look forward to the Bubonic plague. 

 

Okay sorry to be this guy (though given by some of the replies not the only guy), but I've said before and I'll say it again, I don't give two flying feathers about Starlight Glimmer.  I don't think she's an interesting character.  And now they're basically pulling a Sunset 2.0 (3.0 if you count Diamond Tiara) and potentially having her on as a Mane 7th(8th?) which is problematic to say the least.  Here's the thing. Starlight seems only really interacts with Twilight.  I mean in The Cutie Map, the finale preview clip and Amending Fences, she's focused only on Twilight, only takes interest in Twilight, only has conversations/replies to Twilight's speechs, even though Fluttershy is the one who did most of the work to bring her cult down and Pinkie Pie was suspicious of her from the very beginning . And that's the other side to the issue, the rest of the Mane 6 have no connection or personal experience with Starlight as of yet. I mean she does take away their cutie mark but they don't seem none the worse for wear so there lacks any connection between the rest of the Mane 6 and Starlight and you want to add her as a Mane 7th? How about giving Spike some more connection to the rest of the cast? 

 

The other big problem is Discord, cause he reformation was long, had ups and downs and is arguably incomplete as no one is completely reformed.  

 

And then there's this little exchange which highlights it:

Starlight:

Twilight: So Starlight, you robbed us of our self identity and tried to reshape Equestria in your own image, but you said you were sorry, so we forgive you and I'll help teach you all about the Magic of Friendship

Discord:

Twilight: so Discord, you robbed us of our self identity and tried to reshape Equestria in you own image, but you said you were sorry so we'll barely tolerate your existence and if you so much as step out of line we'll ram the elements so far up you ass you'll be puking rainbows for a month. 

 

Makes the Mane 6 seem hypocritical, as well as devalues Discord's reformation. I always like that most of the Mane 6 were still against Discord, it showed that could hate and hold a grudge. Like Yoda said about the Dark Side: It's quicker, easier, more seductive  That you want to use it because it would make things better so much faster.  The Mane 6's dislike for Discord also shows "That Friendship isn't always easy but it's worth fighting for" ie the moral at the end of Return of Harmony. Of course this completely explains why they're going to just have Discord be all buddy buddy with the Mane 6 in What About Discord, cause you can't have your heroes be hypocrites and have realistic reservations about someone who hurt them. 

[Jeric 46,861]

Always two there are, the Master and the Apprentice.

 

An organic introduction of a new regular character on the show would be welcome as this season has completed at least two existing story arcs. Adding a reformed character that has more focus than a guest star apparence (Discord) or specific appearances (Sunset Shimmer) would allow for some more nuances storytelling.

[Dark Horse 12,964]

Not sure about this. Twilight's still a bit young to be taking on Pupils, and I'd imagine Starlight is older then her. Not to mention Twilight still seems to be very modest about her role as a princess, having a Pupil and someone she's expected to continually guide and act as a mentor to just doesn't seem like something she'd be entirely comfortable with. She likes being treated as an equal, not a superior. She'd more likely just integrate Starlight into her circle of friends. No better way of learning about friendship then just experiencing it.

[Unlikeable Pony 2,698]

I know already that she'll be reformed due to the gameloft game talking about her learning a lesson about friendship from twilight and the poster having her outline next to twilight.
I just freaking hope this is a minor thing and we don't see more of her. The fact that they're making an entire book about her fills me with dread as this indicates they plan on using her alot as a new "big" character on the show ala discord getting episodes.

 

 

That's absolutely the stupidest possible thing that they could do, so I'm 100% sure that is exactly what they're going to do.

/sadface

yeah...

I just hope that they don't end up trying to shoehorn her in as a new alicorn princess somehow given that there's that "cutie castle" thing in the gameloft game that's going to be related to her.

 

 

Ugh, not another reformed villain....

agreed/

 

 

I doubt it...Starlight might become one of the recurring villains on this show, just like The Reverse-Flash!

I hate to disagree with you as that'd be nice, but the gameloft game pretty much 100% says she's reformed since starlight's character info lists her as learning a valuable lesson about friendship from twilight.

 

Well I'm looking forward to the finale as much as I look forward to the Bubonic plague. 

 

Okay sorry to be this guy (though given by some of the replies not the only guy), but I've said before and I'll say it again, I don't give two flying feathers about Starlight Glimmer.  I don't think she's an interesting character.  And now they're basically pulling a Sunset 2.0 (3.0 if you count Diamond Tiara) and potentially having her on as a Mane 7th(8th?) which is problematic to say the least.  Here's the thing. Starlight seems only really interacts with Twilight.  I mean in The Cutie Map, the finale preview clip and Amending Fences, she's focused only on Twilight, only takes interest in Twilight, only has conversations/replies to Twilight's speechs, even though Fluttershy is the one who did most of the work to bring her cult down and Pinkie Pie was suspicious of her from the very beginning . And that's the other side to the issue, the rest of the Mane 6 have no connection or personal experience with Starlight as of yet. I mean she does take away their cutie mark but they don't seem none the worse for wear so there lacks any connection between the rest of the Mane 6 and Starlight and you want to add her as a Mane 7th? How about giving Spike some more connection to the rest of the cast? 

 

The other big problem is Discord, cause he reformation was long, had ups and downs and is arguably incomplete as no one is completely reformed.  

 

And then there's this little exchange which highlights it:

Starlight:

Twilight: So Starlight, you robbed us of our self identity and tried to reshape Equestria in your own image, but you said you were sorry, so we forgive you and I'll help teach you all about the Magic of Friendship

Discord:

Twilight: so Discord, you robbed us of our self identity and tried to reshape Equestria in you own image, but you said you were sorry so we'll barely tolerate your existence and if you so much as step out of line we'll ram the elements so far up you ass you'll be puking rainbows for a month. 

 

Makes the Mane 6 seem hypocritical, as well as devalues Discord's reformation. I always like that most of the Mane 6 were still against Discord, it showed that could hate and hold a grudge. Like Yoda said about the Dark Side: It's quicker, easier, more seductive  That you want to use it because it would make things better so much faster.  The Mane 6's dislike for Discord also shows "That Friendship isn't always easy but it's worth fighting for" ie the moral at the end of Return of Harmony. Of course this completely explains why they're going to just have Discord be all buddy buddy with the Mane 6 in What About Discord, cause you can't have your heroes be hypocrites and have realistic reservations about someone who hurt them. 

I wish it was possible to brohoff multiple times, because I agree 100% with this.

I find Starlight to be kind of boring truth be told, and redundant as we've already gotten 2 rival type characters for twilight that have shown up so far in both Trixie and Sunset. Nega-twilight 2.0 doesn't really interest me since we have sunset shimmer, and if they have starlight turn out to be just like twilight with a little coaching she'll REALLY be just like sunset.
She's a decent one off villain like trixie with the alicorn amulet or suri as an antagonist, but she has no real draw to me at all, and I don't want her as a new recurring character, or god forbid, a new member of the mane six.
 

 

I wholely expect she'll be reformed and possibly start taking notes from twilight, but I hope she gets shoved off into the background like other secondary characters like Coco or bulk biceps and only get a couple passing mentions or a side role in a single episode in the future, not on the same level as characters like luna or discord.

[M'gann M'orzz 745]

I really don't get why they are trying to tie Twilight and Starlight now when Twilight really did not do much in the opener and I actually think Starlight's ideology is more inheriently opposed to characters like Rainbow Dash and Rarity who are all about their individual ambition and stuff. So why is Starlight fixiated on Twilight? Really if anyone she should be stalking and trying to destroy Fluttershy for being the one who actually exposed and destroyed her Cult. 

 

I mean I guess they obviously want a Sunset Shimmer type on the show, since Sunset herself can't really appear but since they kind of failed to really establish Starlight as a foil for Twilight specifically how is this really going to work.

Edited November 2, 2015 by M'gann M'orzz

[cmarston1 5,959]

It would be cool to see Twilight become a teacher similar to how Celestia was to her, which could lead to some interesting character development for Twilight.

But at the same time I don't really want to see another Nightmare Moon, Discord, Sunset Shimmer, Midnight Sparkle incident.

Villain gets hit by a magical friendship rainbow, cries, says "I'm sorry" becomes good and is now a major character in the show.

At this rate we might as well redeem Tirek, Sombra and Chrysalis. 

With the way this season has been particularly in the second half it could be good and interesting, but we've already had Luna, Discord and Sunset Shimmer go through a redemption arch, and I don't wait to see the same thing happen over and over again.

Edited November 2, 2015 by cmarston1

[Swifty 249]

Omg

Im glad when this season is finally over and regarding Season 6, i just hope for the best. Sorry, i hardly can watch this anymore. It would be funny if Twilight is soon to be Celestia 2.0 and will have the same lack of screentime, because the most unappealing villain must be explored further.

Edited November 2, 2015 by Swifty

[M'gann M'orzz 745]

What I don't get is how anyone can say Starlight, a character with an actual Ideology who fought more through manipulations is "the most unappealing villain" I mean really, we've had Nightmare Moon who did practically nothing, Sombra who was more of an evil presssence than a character and Chrsyalis who I can't really think of much going for beyond a really neat design, I mean otherwise she was basically an idiot. Starlight's actually a solid villain, id rather her stay that way than be reformed really.

[EmeraldSkies 93]

I'm actually quite excited about this, that is if they do it well. I think it'd be funny if it was more of a slow reformation and she still makes trouble from time to time. Especially since she seems so implanted in her beliefs.

Need her backstory though please.

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

It seems like something that would be natural in Twilight's development to eventually teach other ponies friendship. It shows more character growth. I really can't say much since we have such limited information on this at the moment.

[J. Brony 313]

Starlight's actually a solid villain, id rather her stay that way than be reformed really.

 

I agree.

 

Starlight isn't the fear-inspiring villain like Tirek or Sombra but she has a sinister side to her as @ has illustrated in the past.  She doesn't strike me as the sort of power-mad lunatic bent on ruling Equestria so much as a vindictive stalker whose become obsessed with claiming vengeance on Twilight.  That, more than anything, makes her a better villain to pit against the Mane 6.  Starlight has a personal grudge to settle against them and is intelligent enough to come up with any number of schemes to make their lives miserable.

 

For that reason, I feel that Starlight Glimmer has the potential to be a strong recurring villain.  But, according to all of the recent spoilers, it seems she's scheduled to become the latest in a long line of "bad guys" to embrace the virtues of friendship and lose any spark of interest they may have had with the viewers.  But, at the very least, such characters tend to fade into the background, seldom to be seen again.  And if this is to be the fate of Starlight Glimmer, perhaps that is for the best.

[Silver Stream. 708]

Hmm? Saw my name was mentioned. I'm guessing this is about Starlight Glimmer possibly being Twilight's first pupil (holy sh*t I'm so bright)

 

But honestly, no I wouldn't say she'd be a good pupil for Twilight for two reasons: 1. Twilight is not ready to take on a pupil just yet and 2. Starlight will either become a recurring villain or reform in a snap and simply spread what she learned or something.

 

Twilight has came a very long way from where she started when we were introduced to the series years ago. And I will not deny how much she has grown as both a character and a friend, but I still don't think she is quite there yet to take on a pupil. She already has spike, and she already has all of Equestria to focus on to spread friendship and it's been shown that she still struggles with that at times and needs help from her own friends. Even now, we see how she struggles to trust one of her friends (Discord) despite her having a great reason to. I imagine the upcoming episode will mostly be her paranoid about Discord and that he's up to something and tricking the rest of her friends. It's a cliche plot, but it's to be expected for a character like Twilight and a trickster like Discord. That episode will be quite enjoyable, I'm sure.

 

I do believe it's possible for Starlight to end up like Sombra or Chrysalis.....neglect reformation or just get booted off the series and be remembered as one of the most sinister villains of all time. However, I don't think this would be an inevitable outcome. Starlight strongly believes in what she is trying to accomplish which is scary in itself. If The Mane 6 could somehow convince her that she could still accomplish what she desires ANOTHER way, she may be considered reformed and realize her f*cked up mistakes.  

[J. Brony 313]

But honestly, no I wouldn't say she'd be a good pupil for Twilight for two reasons: 1. Twilight is not ready to take on a pupil just yet and 2. Starlight will either become a recurring villain or reform in a snap and simply spread what she learned or something.

 

Yeah....

 

I'm guessing that by "pupil" she's going to "learn" the magic of friendship in the finale, return to Our Town to share it with the ponies she wrong, make amends and become a happy family who we'll never see again outside of impending merchandise.  

 

I'd really keep Starlight around as a recurring villain but my previous notion is so in keeping with the show's DNA that I can't see things ending any other way.

Edited November 2, 2015 by J. Brony

[M'gann M'orzz 745]

I actually do think Twilight is ready for a pupil, and hell it's  not like she's doing much most of the time these days anyway, something like that might be good to refresh her character and give her a new arc. But I just happen to LIKE Starlight as a villain and don't see why she'd be fixiated on Twilight in the first place.

[UnknownFry 169]

So far the signs point to yes. The Season 5 character poster, the book about Starlight, and also the details in the Gameloft game, and even details in the Art of Equestria.

 

Twilight has already taken on a pupil and her name is Sunset Shimmer, and she also has taken to mentoring the CMCs as well with Twilight Time so she is more than ready for such a task.

 

Starlight would be fixated on Twilight because of the differences in ideology, and they clashed over it in the first episode. Also Twilight is also a princess so she would be more prone to draw Starlight's attention than Twilight's friends would and taking her down first would leave the others for the taking.

 

However if Starlight was truly out for revenge she would start with the ponies in Our Town first. 

 

However I am content to wait it out and see how the season 5 finale goes before without making much in the way of assumptions as there are a lot of things that could happen with all these time traveling shenanigans, and there may be details about Starlight revealed that makes her more sympathetic as a character as well too.

Edited November 3, 2015 by UnknownFry