Friendship doesn't exist

[arftbmrf 40]

Well, after another round of thining and analysing (I do it often) I came to one conclusion I want to discuss. That conclusion states, that friendship doesn't exist.

Yeah, it's that simple. The concept of friendship is wrong and misleading from the very beginning. Just an illusion, like many others.

And I'm speaking from rich experience, from my side. Never had friends, so far (as in, people who can be considered as friends) and the only person I talk to is... complicated, to say the least. To the point of me dreading every message.

So, what's your thoughts? Maybe someone would like to share an opinion, or even a story? I'd like to hear it.

[PiratePony 8,475]

I think it to be unfair to classify that friendship to not exist based on personal experience. Perhaps friendship does not exist for you...yet. There is plenty of life to live.

 

From my experience, I may not have many friends, but I have in the past before they moved.

 

I'm married, the greatest friendship of all!

 

Friendship Is Legally Binding 

 

You'll find friends yet. Don't worry. 

[simba86 1,541]

I vehemently disagree in the utmost, I did find one true friend in 30 years of looking

[Kivil 1,721]

Just because you had a bad experience with friendship that doesn't mean you can call it crap for anyone else! You might get a bestie is the future! Just don't give up!

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

So friendship doesn't exist because you've never had a good friendship?

 

What about all the other people who have had long lasting friendships?

[man dude man 555]

I look for friendship like many look for love, so I concur in many ways. However, I dont repress its existence (any more) I long for it. I never make long term friends, these are like little fads, or in the moment interpersonal relevance, situational interests, etc. I was just the guy that was convinent such was the same for many of my past relationships. What I want in a friend, after being betrayed, after being slandered, stolen from, lied to, broken for all intents and purposes and alienating myself. Are individuals I know I can trust, someone that i can dedicate my loyalties to, and to just always know, hey, this is MY friend. We care about our experiences, our common interests, each others passions, goals, etc. and we genuinely want GOOD things for eachother, we arent competing, we are who we are and we respect each others characters, and VALUE each others characters greatly.

[ShadOBabe 18,997]

Just because YOU never had a friend doesn't mean friendship doesn't exist in the entire world.

Your life is not all of existance.

 

... This should be obvious, really... 

 

I just talked to a close friend last night on Skype. I have disproved your theory just by doing this... unless you're trying to get all "deep" and start defining all intangible concepts as "non-existent". But that's a whole other can of philosophical worms.

Edited January 21, 2016 by ShadOBabe

[Malinter 3,064]

To quote the Death of Diskworld.

 

"Humans need to believe in things that aren't true. How else can they become?"

 

Ofcourse it doesn't "exist" just as justice and mercy don't pyshically exist either. They are human constructs. It exists only when you believe that it exists.

 

I believe it exists. It takes too much effort to be a lonely miserable git.

[NotoriousSMALL 1,984]

"friendship doesnt exist"

"Never had friends"

 

case closed. Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean others have.

[Johnny1226 14,674]

Friendship does exist this very forum is evidence of that we are all friends here

[Kapitan zur See Hans (Daz) 883]

There is something called anecdotal evidence, this thread is the embodiment of that definition entirely. In some cases friendship may be superficial, however this is all down to the bond two may forge with each other. It all comes down to effort and chemistry, if you just hang out and talk every once in a while they are more so acquaintance(One that you enjoy) which is what some confuse with being friends.

 

The human mind comes in all forms based on our experiences and genetic makeup, we each experience friendship different and how deep that relationship goes with them. Generalizations of a form of relationship is ignorance in full given the differences in mind and experience, generalizations in general are usually ignorance. To me it sounds like you lack the drive to make friends, which is not bad as even I have a lower social drive than some(Correct me if I'm wrong, but your wording makes it sound like it). 

[Jokuc 8,173]

I'm sorry, what? How are you "speaking from experience" if you haven't even had any friends? (Sorry about that)

 

A friend is someone you have a close relation to, there's no set line for when someone becomes a friend, it's up to you to decide. Some people call people they just talked to for some hours friends and some won't consider someone a friend until they've known them for a couple of months.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,302]

Maybe you need to broaden your definition of "friendship."

 

Early on, my younger brother was my best friend.  We played together, grew up together, and had fights, but he was - and still is - a very important part of my life.  That's friendship.

 

My partner is a closer friend to me than I ever could have asked for.  She knows me better than anyone else - often better than I know myself, and she's still here.  That's friendship, too.

 

I have a friend I met online who has enough dirt on me to overburden a dump truck.  I find it difficult not to tell them things.  With them, the lines between friend and family have long since blurred.  They could tell you what friendship is.

 

Yes, [original poster], I'm asserting that friendship does exist.  It's entirely possible that you haven't been looking hard enough.  Or perhaps you've just undervalued the sorts of friendships you've already come across in your life.  In my experience, you're fortunate to end up with enough true friends to count on the fingers of a single hand.  Maybe you should do a little reevaluation and start counting.

[Shift 4,272]

I've had a friend since 1st grade and we're still friends all these years, same with two friends I met in in 2nd and 4th grade. I've made very good friends in the past two years too, and I'm really close with most if not all of my friends, and I like to think they're close to me too. I'm sorry that you never had a friend, but there are plenty others who have friends and experience friendship every day. Obviously there have been a few friends I've fallen out with because we took different paths, but that just means we're too different/conflicting to have a real close friendship now.

 

Even my friends from elementary school are very different; the shy, timid girl is now probably the toughest and most headstrong person I know, the really hyper girl is now a lot more calm and serious, hell even I went from being really loud and annoying to a really geeky person who rambles too much. We're still best friends even though we've changed so much, and if that isn't friendship, heck I don't know what is.

 

You may not have experienced friendship yet, but just because you haven't experienced it yet doesn't mean you can't! Better late than never. Try talking to people, opening up a little bit, see if there are people with similar interests. That's the best way to get a conversation going; who knows, maybe someone who sits next to you in math/work/lunch/whatever is a best friend just waiting to happen! So maybe break the ice or something and ask what they're into. Show an interest, lend an ear. Trust me, whenever anyone asks 'what're you into' and I tell them, and then they say 'oh cool, what's it about' I am squeeing in the inside. I'm not good at socializing (tend to get off topic a lot) and somehow I managed to make friends, so if I can, anyone can!

 

tl;dr: just because you haven't experienced friendship doesn't mean others haven't. try making friends! talk to people with similar interests!

[Ponies4Bronies 394]

My Dashie is my best friend(and life partner) and our friendship has lasted since we first met. Since my other friend passed away I still see each other as friends. It is a mutual feeling and that is what makes it work.

[Admiral Regulus 2,769]

By this logic, I've never been to Canada so Canada doesn't exist.

 

Oh, please.

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

Well, after another round of thining and analysing (I do it often) I came to one conclusion I want to discuss. That conclusion states, that friendship doesn't exist.

Yeah, it's that simple. The concept of friendship is wrong and misleading from the very beginning. Just an illusion, like many others.

And I'm speaking from rich experience, from my side. Never had friends, so far (as in, people who can be considered as friends) and the only person I talk to is... complicated, to say the least. To the point of me dreading every message.

So, what's your thoughts? Maybe someone would like to share an opinion, or even a story? I'd like to hear it.

 

It can be really hard to tell who your true friends are. Especially over the internet. But you just have to keep trying and hope for the best with each new person you meet.

[ShadOBabe 18,997]

By this logic, I've never been to Canada so Canada doesn't exist.

 

Oh, please.

 

Haven't you heard? The martians came and took all of Canada.

They're annihilating all evidence of it's existence in textbooks in a massive cover up operation.

[Steel Accord 6,660]

Haven't you heard? The martians came and took all of Canada.

They're annihilating all evidence of it's existence in textbooks in a massive cover up operation.

 

Nooooooooo! Not Canada! 

 

We met some of the nicest people up there this New years. Those Martian bastards, will pay for this theft of friendship, PAY I SAY! 

[Jaxsie (Inactive) 1,343]

Friendship does exist. To dismiss its existence based off of never experiencing it yourself is rather foolish. Imagine that you're in a room. All the walls are painted in beautiful fresco from corner to corner. You saying friendship doesn't exist because you don't have friends, is like standing in one corner of the room and trying to survey the whole art work. In other words, you don't see the big picture. Take a few steps back and turn 360 degrees to see it all. You are projecting yourself onto the world. What you ought to do instead is look within yourself, because that's where the problem is. How can you have friends with such a negative outlook? You can't. If you want friends, you must first be friendly yourself.

[PinkieatHeart 208]

Sounds like someone could use the power of the elements of harmony. XD

[pyroshark 19]

I agree with the maker of the topic. I have many friends but... I feel that "Love" and other stuff was just created to continue on the race of humans through reproduction. There I said it.

[arftbmrf 40]

I hear all of you, but let me ask -- if friendship exists, do friends betray each other? If they do, why you need such friends in the first place? If they don't, then you'd just prove my point about non-existant friendship, because all people I was in contact with betrayed me one way or another.

[ShadOBabe 18,997]

I hear all of you, but let me ask -- if friendship exists, do friends betray each other? If they do, why you need such friends in the first place? If they don't, then you'd just prove my point about non-existant friendship, because all people I was in contact with betrayed me one way or another.

 

Well if they betray you, then they weren't your friends.

But again, that doesn't happen to everyone. Just because it's your experience, doesn't make it a universal FACT.

[Jaxsie (Inactive) 1,343]

I hear all of you, but let me ask -- if friendship exists, do friends betray each other? If they do, why you need such friends in the first place? If they don't, then you'd just prove my point about non-existant friendship, because all people I was in contact with betrayed me one way or another.

Friendship doesn't erase character flaws in people. People who betray friends have deep seeded character issues. This fact doesn't deny the existence of friendship. What it does prove, though, is that some people use the friendship of others disingenuously; and such people aren't true friends to begin with. That's why it's important to be wise about who you call friends.