ooc OOC Deep Science 1x1 with Blitz Boom

[Illiad Easle 2,992]

@Blitz Boom

I will give you one hint: You need to think outside the box.

That is all.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

For the record, not saying any of this is happening (regarding the last on Void's part of the response). I just set it in as filler, to make the post fill out a bit more. All of this genetics hocus pocus is your department.  I'm just here for the vengeance and cake. And I'm still waiting for the cake.

Edited September 26, 2020 by Blitz Boom

[Illiad Easle 2,992]

@Blitz Boom

No worries on the possible actions, they were properly formatted as if-then, feel free to do similarly when you think it necessary.

As to their genetics, these clones are in fact natural clones of the ponies they look like, with a few twists:

I'm operating under the assumption that alicornism is not always a genetic trait, there are natural alicorns rarely in the world, but most known alicorns are ascended from the other races due to great feats or great responsibilities. Luna and Celestia were a pegasus and a unicorn respectively before they were made responsible by the tree of peace to dethrone Discord (You may have noticed that Luna is more physical, flys more, while Celestia is more magical, rarely flies under her own power.) As such their clones were genetically a pegasus and unicorn.

I decided that RD's mane got the rainbow color from her feat, and as the clone has not performed the sonic rainboom she does not have the rainbow mane.

Pinkie's mane only went curly after the rainboom, as the clone has never seen it she retains the straight hair and serious demeanor that Pinkamena had prior.

There's another twist, but you haven't found it yet.

In short, there's no genetic relation between the clones and the sisters.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

Oh, I highly doubted it to. As said, it were mainly filler. Though they Did take some samples, after recapturing them, and likely also had some from when they were small. Do with that what you will.

In any case, interesting reasoning on things, I like it.  And I know the twist already. It's obvious, don't you think? Arcade is actually a big cake in disguise. 

[Illiad Easle 2,992]

2 minutes ago, Blitz Boom said:

And I know the twist already. It's obvious, don't you think?

I can't tell if you actually know the twists I have planned, or if you're just joking.

If you do know a twist already I would like to know so I can refine my foreshadowing so later twists are less obvious.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

I said Arcade was a cake. Fairly obvious I were kidding.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

I did mean over ripe. English isn't my first language, so a few words slip here and there. I thought Ripe meant they had been there for too long.

[Illiad Easle 2,992]

@Blitz Boom

I had assumed as much, you do occasionally get articles wrong but that is a minor thing.

Ripe when referring to things that are not food does often mean it has expired or nearly so, saying someone smells ripe is often a negative trait.

Ripe when referring to food however indicates that it is ready for consumption.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

Gotcha.  And I know I mess up things at times, like punctuation, but long as it is legible, it is likely fine.

As for today's post: What I wrote about the dragons, are what I use in my own RP, but I put a good deal of disclaimer in, when I used it as internal dialogue filler here. In case your interpretation are not the same, it have been set up as being how she knows it, from very few sources, so it could be more isolated cases, than a general consensus.

It just makes sense to me that dragons are generally elemental aligned in their magic, as can be seen with for example Spike, who seems like a clear fire aligned dragon. Also makes it more interesting to me, that they are in minor schools among themselves. Though of course, breeding over lines makes said lines rather blurry, so a pure fire aligned dragon for example, are not easy to run into. It's more a matter of being more aligned to one thing, than another.

Also, I like the idea about water dragons, being some territorial, more secluded sorts, who lives primarily in the ocean, and near coasts. And the alignment can help put dragons more in categories, such as ponies are.

As for the *no kill law* it just sorta makes sense. Realistically, the dragons should have eaten the ponies a while back, or at least trampled them. Or the equines would use their magic to truly give them a whacking. Might be opart of their older history, but it is in their own best interest to keep things somewhat more civil. No need for a full on war, and the last several years in the RP, likely makes most see the folly in wasting resources and time on each other, when there is far more dangerous things that's better to team up against.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

Just for the record: If Null ends up opening up the side of Cabinet Mare, and find the varied internal organs dangled out like wires, with the heart as the main power source, brain up near the screen, and a dangling eyeball focusing on her, she's gonna nope right out of the casino, and never return. She has limits to what she's willing to deal with.

Normally I wouldn't think this was a possibility, but with all the SCP influence you're adding, you're making me paranoid.

[Illiad Easle 2,992]

@Blitz Boom

I'll say that what you've described is not what she would find were she to open the machine up. No need to worry there.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

Trying to see if I can't post more frequently here. I can't guarantee one every day, since some days at work really drains me, but it should still be mostly every day now.

Also, advancing my own plot a bit on Troy. You're having fun yanking my chain in New Las Pegasus. So figured I'd have a bit of fun with something I've been toying around with in the thread for a while now.

[Illiad Easle 2,992]

@Blitz Boom

5 hours ago, Blitz Boom said:

Trying to see if I can't post more frequently here.

I noticed you were suddenly posting every day, don't worry if you can't always keep it up, but I'm not complaining if you do manage it.

5 hours ago, Blitz Boom said:

You're having fun yanking my chain in New Las Pegasus.

The AI can keep the quest going forever, it's designed to do that, after all... you can't win a game that does not end.

I am subtly advancing plot elements on that end behind the scenes while Null is distracted.

5 hours ago, Blitz Boom said:

So figured I'd have a bit of fun with something I've been toying around with in the thread for a while now.

I'm intrigued, and look forward to seeing what exactly it is you have in mind. As you may have noticed, my cannon (Similar to Equestria itself) has plenty of room for new additions to story and lore.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

I am noting you seemingly being able to drag this on. Combined with Null being rather stubborn, she's likely in for the long haul.

As for the cannon, nothing I have planned, should work against your established cannon. Things relating to it have been brought up and discussed before, and did not flag issues. Not ones that weren't resolved at least, as I don't remember having to retcon things, but we'll see when things move along. I have prepared several arguments for things already, to hopefully make it fit. If not, I'm flexible. I'll change what's needed to make it flow.

[Illiad Easle 2,992]

@Blitz Boom

If only to ease the stress, Null won't lose if she doesn't find the Final piece before the time runs out.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

Nah, I'm not stressed on this. I know you're like, 95% not gonna let her actually win the darn thing. I'm just waiting to see how much you're pulling her leg on this.  So far, rather intriguing.

Also, I know it's a short one, but it felt like a setup post, so not much I could think of there. And the Void part, it seemed as if Vale were making a statement, which did not need to be answered. Hence why I moved to the part with feeding the foals. Ah, and added some ambiguity to what goes on the plates, to allow you to make up some things yourself, if you so please.

Edited October 30, 2020 by Blitz Boom

[Illiad Easle 2,992]

@Blitz Boom

4 hours ago, Blitz Boom said:

Nah, I'm not stressed on this. I know you're like, 95% not gonna let her actually win the darn thing. I'm just waiting to see how much you're pulling her leg on this.  So far, rather intriguing.

While I won't stop her from losing, there is a way to 'win' though I get the feeling she won't feel like she's won if/when she gets there.

4 hours ago, Blitz Boom said:

Ah, and added some ambiguity to what goes on the plates, to allow you to make up some things yourself, if you so please.

Really I should put the foals in the AI and see how it characterizes their responses, it would at least try to keep them consistent better than I can.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

I think anything short of Arcade needing to hold her back from smashing Cabinet Mare, while cursing like a deranged sailor, can be chalked up as a victory.  She might see it the same way, once she's calmed down. Though at this point, I think her not getting a *You lost* screen, would make her grin a little. At this point, it's not really about a large sum of cash or anything like that for her. It's a matter of showing the machine who's boss.  We'll see if it goes there.

As for the foals, do what you think is best. They're yours after all.

[Illiad Easle 2,992]

@Blitz Boom

I'm just glad you're still enjoying it. I look forward to how the rest of the story will pan out. There's really only one major arc left, followed by however they decide to fill out the aftermath from what happens.

There's another arc for if/when we do the timeline where they get rescued by the Æther instead of going to Troy.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

One planned, major arc maybe. But you set this nice, big world out there, scrambling to rebuild after the gates have closed. Seems an awful shame to not go and explore that expansive world. Though if you also want an AU variant, we could go with that. Seems like you have a story you want to tell there too, though if you want to keep it in the same continuity instead, I could just pick some other character(s) and the story would unfold what were going on in the Æther at the same time.

...I do remember right in saying the Æther were related to where Discord banished some of those from Equestria, right? Or did I muddle something up?

[Illiad Easle 2,992]

@Blitz Boom

15 hours ago, Blitz Boom said:

Seems an awful shame to not go and explore that expansive world.

I mean, if you want to go out into it I'd love to paint the world out for you. When we get there you can even invite in some friends from your major thread if you like.

15 hours ago, Blitz Boom said:

Though if you also want an AU variant, we could go with that. Seems like you have a story you want to tell there too, though if you want to keep it in the same continuity instead, I could just pick some other character(s) and the story would unfold what were going on in the Æther at the same time.

The Æther story is pretty consistent between the AUs as it is largely independent of the events happening below. They may even be traveling between parallel dimensions as they hop to avoid Discord, only returning to their departure point once 25 years have passed. So continuity is not really an issue. Really the story I have planned for the Æther was meant for random characters, so if you want to play different characters I'd be down for that.

15 hours ago, Blitz Boom said:

...I do remember right in saying the Æther were related to where Discord banished some of those from Equestria, right? Or did I muddle something up?

It is related, When Discord was banishing ponies to Earth as in the events of Five Score, Troy and the nations of TrUST built the Æther Project to protect civilization from the now inevitable collapse Discord was causing. The best and brightest as well as as many others as could fit we loaded on and they set off as Discord assailed Troy. They began their random hops so that Discord could never bring them down. So in a way they banished themselves.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

Well then, today's post got mighty sad.  I did not think it were set up like that, and Null are now seemingly the one watching over a dying person on their deathbed. Unless somehow, there's an out here. Gonna be looking forward to what happens next in this fairly dismal tale you've set forth.

Also, never heard of the song, nor the band before. Did not see that one coming from a mile away. O.o Very creative use of a fairly disturbing and depressing song.

7 hours ago, Illiad Easle said:

I mean, if you want to go out into it I'd love to paint the world out for you. When we get there you can even invite in some friends from your major thread if you like.

I figure there's a lot to explore, and create, and I could set up the offer in my OOC thread for folks to come and have a look at that time, if it were. Might be someone who'd be interested.  I could think of a few who're pretty skilled writers who might find the setting interesting at least.

7 hours ago, Illiad Easle said:

It is related, When Discord was banishing ponies to Earth as in the events of Five Score, Troy and the nations of TrUST built the Æther Project to protect civilization from the now inevitable collapse Discord was causing. The best and brightest as well as as many others as could fit we loaded on and they set off as Discord assailed Troy. They began their random hops so that Discord could never bring them down. So in a way they banished themselves.

Interesting idea, and quite a step to take to avoid getting caught by Discord.

Best and brightest though... Hmm... Well, I do have a few smart types to work with, and one that might fit in the setting.

Molotov is part of a long family line of inventors, and have a reputation in the right circles, though the family have always been firmly devoted to Princess Celestia. That would keep them out of TrUST's grasp, but with Equestria collapsing, and the princesses seemingly getting killed, survival had to take precedent over loyalties to a dead princess. Doubly so, as he have a little sister to take care of. I could imagine that they might reach out to him at some point after the princesses death, thinking he could be of use, and wouldn't be as grounded in old grudges he didn't have any direct link to anyway.

I have plans for Molotov, that requires him to stay in the world as it is though, where he's been making use of his skill set, and that of others, to stay alive throughout the years. However, Blitz are also a smart pony. Been tinkering since she were eight, and carried the same knack for invention as most members of the family does. She's also a little... Well, you've seen her in the thread with Randi.  Proper supervision, and some discipline though, and she could be an asset. One which Molotov would offer them, even if it broke his heart to send her away. Though since it'd ensure at least one of them survived the world plunging into madness, he'd still do it. Since Blitz doesn't remember her family, it wouldn't hurt her as much, though she'd still miss him. Sounds like there'd be plenty enough to do for The Æther to keep her occupied, though.

I have a few other smart types too, and some who aren't Equestria related as such, if need be too. Including an alchemist, with no real loyalties to the crown. What sort of creatures might you be looking for though, in that scenario, if I might ask? Sounds like whoever joined had to at least be able to contribute to the project in some fashion.

[Illiad Easle 2,992]

@Blitz Boom

15 hours ago, Blitz Boom said:

Also, never heard of the song, nor the band before. Did not see that one coming from a mile away. O.o Very creative use of a fairly disturbing and depressing song.

Glad you liked it, I often find myself inspired by music for my stories. If you look closely you may notice a number of other influences as we go.

I only fairly recently learned about Lemon Demon myself, some of their songs are rather weird, but for one similar in energy to Cabinet Man I would recommend Eighth Wonder.

15 hours ago, Blitz Boom said:

I could think of a few who're pretty skilled writers who might find the setting interesting at least.

Awesome! Looking forward to it!

15 hours ago, Blitz Boom said:

I have a few other smart types too, and some who aren't Equestria related as such, if need be too. Including an alchemist, with no real loyalties to the crown. What sort of creatures might you be looking for though, in that scenario, if I might ask? Sounds like whoever joined had to at least be able to contribute to the project in some fashion.

The story I envisioned more applicably calls for an outsider, someone who wasn't part of the initial crew.

The Æther spends a set amount of time in places before jumping, during this time they send down crews to look for survivors and gather supplies that they can't make for themselves. The premise is then that whoever is being played there was picked up by one of these exploratory crews. So really the qualification is that they could have survived after the collapse of Equestria for some period upwards of a year, and that they don't attack the crew trying to rescue them from the spawn.

I've actually thought out the opening scene:

You and some others are running from a horde of Spawn, and they're gaining. One of your group trips and is about to be overtaken when a bolt of purple lances out of seemingly nowhere to strike the closest of the Spawn, causing the rest to back off a pace and giving the group member enough time to get going again. You all then become aware of a whirring sound like a large fan as a magical cloaking field dissolves to reveal a flying machine (Similar to what Null and Void were lifted out of Deltrot in) a mare with a rifle fires a few more shots of purple bolts back at the spawn as the machine matches your group's pace. The mare motions for you all to jump in, slowing a bit so such a jump would be possible, one almost doesn't make it, but they are grabbed by a griffon who drags them the rest of the way in. They close the door behind them as the craft quickly gains altitude.

(This would be the character introductions among the starting party)

Soon the craft would level out and the crew would motion for the party to look out the window at the Æther Project, countless dozens of bolts flying off of it to strike down any Spawn trying to attack it by air. The craft docks along with a few others, and the party is met by a unicorn and a changeling. "Welcome aboard the Æther, you've been rescued, and we only ask that you make yourselves useful in repayment. If you find that unsatisfactory... you're more than welcome to leave." he motions towards the open wall that looks down on the ground thousands of feet below.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

So someone more average, who would be able to help around? Alright then, that cuts out the draconequui, scientists, and the dryad for a start. Likely the changeling queen too. actually. So that cuts it down. Though who to pick... Hmm...

Gonna need to think on this, but I have several to pick from that'd be interesting. Though what sort of requirement would there be? And how many might it be? Some chars I have, only really functions in pairs. Such as a changeling with no control over her transformation powers (she were broken early out of her egg as she were being converted, which messed with her. Uncertain if she just lacks the instinct and training, or literally can't control it), and her companion, whom are a blind creature Briar. I could have a lot to say of his kind, but in essence, I sometimes have fun making my own sort of races that I think fit, and he's part of a kind of nature-based creature, in the shape of a pony. It's a bit more lengthy, but anyway, just up as an example here. Just popped into my head, and figured I might as well mention it. Meant I could get your view on draconequui, and races that are not seen in the general cannon.

As you have for example Selena, I assume there are a certain degree of creativity one is allowed, if it can be explained, and does not carry an inherent Mary Sue like, OP quality to it, but is is good to know where limits goes.  Also, some of the special cases of my chars, exist solely because of my own draconequui interfering. She's very into mutating and evolving things, from plant life to inanimate objects, and creatures already up and running. Including a shark she needed for another purpose, and turned into a higher sentient, near-pony creature.

I also have ponies of varied ages, so is there a particular age that'd be better, just in case? Never hurts to know, as your idea so far sounds enticing.  Seems like something worth prepping for.

As for the current post in this thread though... Well, Null isn't a monster, and she just killed someone that she know as a fact via Nine, did not have a karmic debt. Hence, to her, Cabinet Mare were an innocent, and how she feels about that have been touched upon earlier, when her inner mindscape were rummaged through.  She's not as unbreakable as she tries to present herself as.

[Blitz Boom 4,443]

@Illiad Easle

Be advised, if leaving the casino required her to go through the crowded area, Null have not left the casino. As stated, she'd go for the route with the least sound, to try and get away from others.  if the route outside were stil for some reason the most silent one, she'd go towards an alley or somewhere else that looked less populated.