movies/tv Why dont people like DIsney Star Wars movies

[Sparkleberry 105]

I have the 3 movies by them .Just had to see why people hated it so much. And i still dont get why. Looks like Star Wars, Pew pew, laserswords etc. I dont see the difference.

Thats usually every plot of a Star Wars movie. For some reason i keep rewatching the Disney Star Wars movies though.

But just wondering your views?

[TotallyNotNyx 15,572]

45 minutes ago, Sparkleberry said:

I have the 3 movies by them .Just had to see why people hated it so much. And i still dont get why. Looks like Star Wars, Pew pew, laserswords etc. I dont see the difference.

Thats usually every plot of a Star Wars movie. For some reason i keep rewatching the Disney Star Wars movies though.

But just wondering your views?

The thing is that the first 6 Star Wars films were great, but then the whole franchise got soured by films 7 and 8. (I'm not including any spin-offs)

Now, people just don't like the franchise. 

[Sparkleberry 105]

4 minutes ago, 💛Princess of Hearts💙 said:

The thing is that the first 6 Star Wars films were great, but then the whole franchise got soured by films 7 and 8. (I'm not including any spin-offs)

Now, people just don't like the franchise. 

Kind of sucks that George Lucas didnt continue the series. Since has has imagination i will say that

[Brony Number 42 10,093]

I am not a fan but I do watch the movies. I don't nitpick them so I don't have a problem 

[Miss 6,239]

Most people like star wars tho XD

It's one of the, if not the biggest media franchise of all time.

 

50 minutes ago, 💛Princess of Hearts💙 said:

The thing is that the first 6 Star Wars films were great, but then the whole franchise got soured by films 7 and 8. (I'm not including any spin-offs)

Now, people just don't like the franchise. 

cough cough, the first "3" Star Wars films (maybe just 2) were great ahaha

Edited April 15, 2020 by Misscellanio

[Goat-kun 2,531]

Looking back, it is regretful that Disney didn't invest even more money into its brand of Star Wars. All such efforts greatly contribute to a brighter future of entertainment

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I envy your perception of observing the new Star Wars movies.

[Cash In 23,115]

I'm a huge fan of both the originals and prequels, but I personally wasn't too big on the newer films. I didn't mind The Force Awakens, since it had a decent set up, but ultimately I felt that it didn't pay off. I really can't tell you why others dislike them, but if you do enjoy them, more power to you. 

 

[Splashee 28,599]

I kinda completely lost interest during watching Star Wars: The Last Jedi. I cannot invest into new characters that do nothing, and somewhat still fight battles better than real trailed Jedi. It's not my cup of tea. I need more structure and rules (not too much though).

[TBD 17,274]

Some people aren't just into SW and that's fine since we all have different taste of interests.

Now that the obvious answer is outta of the way, This breaks my heart really.

https://www.insidenova.com/lifestyles/entertainment/daisy-ridley-says-criticism-of-the-rise-of-skywalker-was-tricky/article_7df2d9bc-3dad-5c7d-93c9-4bcdf0155535.html

 

Honestly, the love for SW is not gone, and I wish I could say the same for Daisy here and the rest of the casts. Even Adam Driver wants his fans to forget he was even Kylo Ren and Ben Solo due to many backlashes. JJ also got the backlashes as well, even though he stated Disney were the one rushing him to finish the project.  SW franchised has become nothing more but complainers and money-making. But despite of all the hate is getting, there's still values in them, included the newer films. 

I just wish these people who acted in and work on SW could see there's still love for SW and the SW is not dead. There are still fans out there who appreciated the values it's gave and has. Too much focus on the negativity could make one forget why we love SW in the first place. 

I, at first didn't like the new trilogy but I treat SW like Harry Potter so I would watch the whole movies again for every new star war movie coming out to theater. When I watched the new trilogy again for the 3rd time, the more I grew appreciated towards it.  Sure I can still nippick some parts I don't like, but that doesn't make it lose it's value completely.  I think personality people these days are too focus on this false high expectations  hoping it would be good as the prequels  or will give them "nostalgia" per se. I think "nostalgia" expectations is what kills the new trilogy, not the movie.. the hype for it. Now some people are just plain bias against it and want nothing from it at all. Because it doesn’t "speak" SW to them(?) Whatever the hell that means.
 

The spin off has gotten more hype and I can't think to believe it either because it base on bias since it taken place during the prequel time frame or people just have zero expectation. which proves my point about  having "nostalgia" expectations ruins the fun of enjoying SW. 

I came in theater to watch the Rise of the Skywalker blinded and clearing my head out with zero expectations. I came out loving it! Now I won't say to all who done the same but still dislike it, I'm saying maybe to those who came in to see Star Wars with that false "nostalgia expectations" it is very likely you will come up hating it regardless and possibility overlooked the values it has.  Like me in the past.

 

There's always new at the table and yes we can't like it all and that's absolutely fine since even I had done the same. We can't like everything but we can't also hate everything. But having the excuse something new in SW completely because "oh it's not like the older star wars" or "new star wars is not canon" blah blah kinda like a stuck in the past sorta thing, well you might as well feel free to leave the franchise. But guess what? these people still stick around despite of hating it. Funny since your love for SW is greater than your hate lol, but please don't spam or preach on every SW related topic (even ones that is NOT even about the new trilogy) that you hate the new star wars just because you just hate it. No one gives a fuck.

example

 

I grew annoyed people telling us that "oh we're just giving out our opinions" or "we have the right to criticized" You guys think we fucking don't know that? As I said over and over, it's okay to nippick and the movie is quite subjective. All is free to say what they think, like, or dislike about the movies. Yes I agree there are some bad writing, but so is the older movies. But again, doesn't make it lose it value completely. This is not the reason why we pointing out towards these people. We're pointing the kinds I just mentioned above. One who spams or cry in hoping it will *proof* disappear. If you think you're trying to do something good for the franchise, you're only making yourself like a huge idiots. 

Another excuses, is "The new star wars ruined 45 years of the making" again, overreacting and I don't know the hell that means. 

I think the hate is less of having a reasonable reason and more on just pure annoying toxic hate just for the hell of it. and solely, Bias that's worth shit. 

The only problem I have with the new trilogy is how they were rushing it. Could've giving more time on it with a more cohesive story and using their villains well. I don't have problem with Rey, finn, and Poe. I don't think Rey is Mary sue, because look at Anakin at his younger days. If not, they're both naturally good with the force. Put if we were to compared new trilogy and the prequel, the extended universe gives  the prequels more attention and story to tell.  That's why I go on telling to people, it's not fair to hate on the new trilogy because there isn't much extended universe involving in it. It lacks the promotion. Yes there's some comics, but people tends to overlook that. 

 

 

[TotallyNotNyx 15,572]

3 hours ago, Misscellanio said:

Most people like star wars tho XD

It's one of the, if not the biggest media franchise of all time.

 

cough cough, the first "3" Star Wars films (maybe just 2) were great ahaha

Well I really liked the prequel triology, but yeah there are lots of people who didn't like the prequel trilogy. 

[Miss 6,239]

11 minutes ago, 💛Princess of Hearts💙 said:

Well I really liked the prequel triology, but yeah there are lots of people who didn't like the prequel trilogy. 

Yea I really love the sequel trilogy and side stories (except solo and rise of skywalker) but yea many don't there. Also like the prequels, well mainly just episode III. 

There is a sizable group of star wars fans who only like 4 and 5 tho. And of course a main group which only likes 4-6 or feels that those are the only good films. 

[Splashee 28,599]

5 hours ago, Misscellanio said:

cough cough, the first "3" Star Wars films (maybe just 2) were great ahaha

I would like to state that none of the movies were -that good-, and it is more entertaining to watch RedLetterMedia's review of The Phantom Menace than the actual movie:

 

 

Except for the cool stuff like light saber, jedi, sith, (original) TIE fighter, (original) Death Star, (original) ATAT, (original) ATST, etc, cool imperial helmets, which are the real Star Wars to me!

[EpicEnergy 23,247]

I love the Disney Star Wars movies! 

Granted, they are heavily flawed in several areas, like consistency and plot, but I don't care.

[Miss 6,239]

18 minutes ago, Super Splashee said:

I would like to state that none of the movies were -that good-, and it is more entertaining to watch RedLetterMedia's review of The Phantom Menace than the actual movie:

 

 

Except for the cool stuff like light saber, jedi, sith, (original) TIE fighter, (original) Death Star, (original) ATAT, (original) ATST, etc, cool imperial helmets, which are the real Star Wars to me!

By the first 3 I meant the first three star wars films that were made. (4-6)

Already seen all of Plinkett's vids! Love em!

[TBD 17,274]

Just wait everyone, by time it’s  10, 20, or even 30 years later,  people are just going to look back at and goes “ah the nostalgia”. The prequels has gone through the same and now people loves them for being nostalgic.  BS.
 

I believe the next trilogy is coming up 2022. Probably on the High or the Old republic. Which I personally think that’s a bit too soon. Two possible reasons? One, Disney is milking the cash cow dried, and two, they’re desperate to try to undo their “mistake“  from the new trilogy.  But if you’re going to that route it will only make things worse by repeating the same mistake; rushing it.  and there will always be complainers. BS.

[Splashee 28,599]

Just now, Misscellanio said:

By the first 3 I meant the first three star wars films that were made. (4-6)

I am very picky, so I like the first ones (4-6) mainly because of the designs of the 70s and 80s. You see, most of my street lamp collections have the same designs as Star Wars ships. I like the designs, too much!

 

The prequels took away almost all the cool designs. They couldn't take away the cool stuff like Bobba Fett's helmet design, or Darth Vader's helmet design, but they sure messed up the rest, in my opinion. But they do have some charm! I cannot completely dismiss them, as I enjoy watching them from time to time.

 

The newest ones, which I am having trouble adjusting to, have just misinterpreted a lot of things that the fans demanded of Star Wars. I think, it is impossible to get Star Wars right. it is just one of those, you will get some right, and a lot of wrong. You have to enjoy the good stuff, as much as you can.

[TotallyNotNyx 15,572]

4 minutes ago, TBD said:

Just wait everyone, by time it’s  10, 20, or even 30 years later,  people are just going to look back at and goes “ah the nostalgia”. The prequels has gone through the same and now people loves them for being nostalgic.  BS.
 

I believe the next trilogy is coming up 2022. Probably on the High or the Old republic. Which I personally think that’s a bit too soon. Two possible reasons? One, Disney is milking the cash cow dried, and two, they’re desperate to try to undo their “mistake“  from the new trilogy.  But if you’re going to that route it will only make things worse by repeating the same mistake; rushing it.  and there will always be complainers. BS.

I'm surprised that they are doing a new trilogy so soon. I would have thought they would have tried to play it safe by just doing standalone films. 

The Old republic would be nice to see. With it being set thousands of years in advance of any of the other films, they can really do something new with the film.

As for the High republic, seeing a slightly younger Yoda would be great  

[Miss 6,239]

12 minutes ago, Super Splashee said:

I am very picky, so I like the first ones (4-6) mainly because of the designs of the 70s and 80s. You see, most of my street lamp collections have the same designs as Star Wars ships. I like the designs, too much!

 

The prequels took away almost all the cool designs. They couldn't take away the cool stuff like Bobba Fett's helmet design, or Darth Vader's helmet design, but they sure messed up the rest, in my opinion. But they do have some charm! I cannot completely dismiss them, as I enjoy watching them from time to time.

 

The newest ones, which I am having trouble adjusting to, have just misinterpreted a lot of things that the fans demanded of Star Wars. I think, it is impossible to get Star Wars right. it is just one of those, you will get some right, and a lot of wrong. You have to enjoy the good stuff, as much as you can.

Well I was saying which ones, by most, are considered great, as in both critics and fans. That usually goes to 4 and 5, sometimes 6 (mainly cuz of time)

Personally, my favs are scattered around. Wouldn't say I like one trilogy, or set of films better than the rest. I don't really separate them, but that's just me. 

[Here No Longer 5,286]

If I'm being honest I don't really like most Star Wars movies period for the most part for the exact same reasons most people hate the Disney Star Wars movies: The story-telling is bad. Granted it's much more obvious in the Disney Star Wars movies (I mean Episode VII was just on par with Phantom Menace (which is bad end of mediocre and still worse than most of the other movies in the series), but the other two... Those are on their own level of bad. ), the problems were there even in the earlier films that are apparently masterpieces. You know, films that tell us and don't really try to show us who the villains are supposed to be. There's no moral greys in the way that it's written, yet those areas start to pop up when you really look at it... I mean seriously, the Jedi have done pretty d@mn evil things themselves, yet we're supposed to believe they're the heroes of this story? They abduct children, they force ordinary people in line with the Jedi council, they condone mass genocide, and they don't even follow their own laws considering they want to assassinate an elected official...

 

I swear most any movie that tried to get away with that would be crucified if it were done today. Oh, right, they are and some of them still get away with it. It's not that I don't necessarily see any quality in Star Wars, because I do. But it's lost in a mess of poor story-telling that's perceived through some quite effective rose-tinted glasses. Frankly there's only one film that gets it sort of right and it's the third prequel film that's constantly bashed on simply because it was not 4, 5, or 6. Frankly what I WOULD like to see is a film that presents the whole conflict from a neutral perspective painting the Jedi and the Sith BOTH as the villains EACH are. If that happened, I may in fact come to like it quite a lot because it forgoes the self-righteousness of the Jedi and the blatant fascistic principles guiding the Sith (I mean they're both that way, but the Sith are much more up front about it rather than being weaselly), and also because the quality is there, it just needs a perspective that isn't tainted by the influence of the Jedi or the Sith.

Edited April 15, 2020 by Dustlicious

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Maybe this can help explain things. 

 

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1 hour ago, 💛Princess of Hearts💙 said:

I'm surprised that they are doing a new trilogy so soon. I would have thought they would have tried to play it safe by just doing standalone films. 

The Old republic would be nice to see. With it being set thousands of years in advance of any of the other films, they can really do something new with the film.

As for the High republic, seeing a slightly younger Yoda would be great  

Yeah I didn't believe till I saw a twitter.

and also on the long run there will be more SW movies, 2024, and 2026. So I have to assume it's yet another trilogy. 

I thought they would play it safe  by doing another spin off movie. I just feel like this something we don't need anytime soon. But Old Republic would make a good movie actually. Since we'll get to see either Darth Malgus or Raven. Moreover, "origin of everything" with the sith between Jedi and how  the corruption from the Republic started. The sotry is more of a gray area, that's why it would so cool to see it!   But If I were to say which of the two would be less of troubling  in making a movie, it would be the High Republic. I mean, it's very new and we don't know much anything about it. The crew are working on building a story for it, and I think working on the movie at the same time.  A young Yoda will be awesome to see though!! I'm little nervous but at the same excited for it! 

 

58 minutes ago, Dustlicious said:

Frankly what I WOULD like to see is a film that presents the whole conflict from a neutral perspective painting the Jedi and the Sith BOTH as the villains EACH are. If that happened, I may in fact come to like it quite a lot because it forgoes the self-righteousness of the Jedi and the blatant fascistic principles guiding the Sith (I mean they're both that way, but the Sith are much more up front about it rather than being weaselly), and also because the quality is there, it just needs a perspective that isn't tainted by the influence of the Jedi or the Sith.

YES! I thought I was the only one noticing that. (i believe like I said to the person above here, if Old Republic is going to be made into a movie, you're gonna love it!) I do think SW is doing a bit much on 'propagandizing'  the Rebel and the Resistances without giving too much attention on the other side.  Which left the villain's side a  bit empty or rather wash-out. I mean we did get to see the two major villains Darth vader, and Kylo Ren on both their neutral prospective . While more in depth about Darth Maul in the clone wars series. I think the generals, like Moff, Prdye, and Hux along with Captain Phasma are majors characters as opposed to Hans, Leia, Finn and Poe. These good guys has their moments and story to share. The bad guys doesnt not. Which always leave me a bit agh, give some bad guys some credits here too!

But I think comics and the series are want gives this neutral aspects that you were mentioning about what SW lacks. I'm not going to force it on you, but you can give it a try, especially the clone wars series and the rebels!

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 42,202]

Having only seen Force Awakens in this trilogy but also watching a lot of in depth videos about the other two, from what I can see, this new trilogy was soulless and had no vision whatsoever. The Force Awakens was pretty good, but all it essentially was, was the first Star Wars movie repackaged. Fine, they can do that if the setup has any payoff. AAAAAAAAAND it didn't. The Last Jedi, from what I know, made no damn sense in most regards despite having some cool ideas. It was essentially the director (already forgot the name) destroying every single bit of setup that Abrams had in Force Awakens, while continuing to kill off beloved characters in favor of this new cast that wasn't going to do anything anyway. Then Rise of Skywalker comes along and boom, nothing but damage control for the previous film. A pointless constant fetch quest that went nowhere, endless death fakeouts and Rey being as Mary Sue as you could possibly Mary Sue while being boring as shit. The other characters that were setup in Force Awakens, Poe, Fin, and others, totally wasted, they don't do anything. Palpatine is clearly shoehorned in and at the end Rey legit steals the Skywalker name. Woweedoodles Disney, you sure done good.

This trilogy had no vision whatsoever. Any kind of purpose Abrams setup in Force Awakens, assuming he had anything planned, was basically wiped out in Last Jedi and the final movie was damage control over that and nothing more. There was obviously nothing truly planned out for this trilogy, but Disney, being the corrupt giant media behemoth that they are, clearly didn't give two shits about this. They simply knew that if it has Star Wars in the title, it will make money. The original trilogy had a plain as day obvious vision and story planned through the 3 films. Even the extremely polarizing prequel trilogy had a damn proper vision for its story. The writing was terrible and they had a lot of other problems, but at least they had some kind of point. They had lore, intrigue, a goal from the first movie in the trilogy to the end of it. Disney's trilogy was "Eh, f**k it, it's Star Wars." and that is a definite way to destroy good storytelling and promise.

In short, I have no doubt that Disney is the main reason why this new trilogy fell flat on its face. There was no real love put into it, no care, no planning. It was just "Star Wars" because "Star Wars" when we all know this huge universe and lore could be something amazing, something much more than simply "Star Wars".

[Megas 28,138]

Having seen all 3 movies, Disney's Star Wars more or less shits on and undoes everything the OT does including but not limited to killing off all major characters unceremoniously or making them irrelevant or demote them(I'm still amazed Lando got out mostly unscathed), brought back Palpatine in the most moronic way possible, more or less replaced everything with either significantly worse versions, or significantly worse solutions. It undoes all of the accomplishments of everything done by the heroes of the OT, actively screwed them over and gave everything to their own shitty movies and their own characters

Which honestly sucks because I honestly loved TFA

[Fluttershutter 2,960]

Horrible disjointed story with no planning written by dueling directors.

They just never stop running from action sequence to action sequence, especially in 7 and 9. Watching 9 it literally felt like it was on fast forward most of the time.

Unlikable main character who can just do anything she has to do to move the "plot" forward. No real development on any of the characters except the uninteresting redemption of the little dark side brat Kylo.

Major problem to me but not to most people: It replaces the story established in the books.

Major problem to most people but not so much to me: Not enough of the main characters from the other movies.