I used to be a stranger 7,994 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 (edited) We all know Friendship is Magic. Oddly enough, that's never said in-show. There's been title drops here and there, and ample mentions of both magic, and friendship.But they've never actually stated that "Friendship is Magic". It's only ever been said "The Magic of Friendship", and that Magic is an Element of Harmony. Curious, isn't it? Is the title itself actually some kind of thesis statement that you're supposed to assume before knowing the first thing about what the show's like? Is magic not actually friendship? Is friendship not actually magic? HAVE WE ALL BEEN LIVING LIES? My realization has destroyed my headcanon forever Edited July 3, 2012 by Blue 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confetti Nova 58 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 Magic of Friendship.... Friendship is Magic blarrgh By Davy Jones your right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filly Pinkie Pie 208 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 You're right... The ponies probably don't know the show title. Thanks PixiGlow for my PINKTASTIC SIG!!! Cute Avatar made by Dragonshy! Though you are shy and sweet, and I bake every treat, everyone has differences, even best friends, but I can't see the differences in you and me, my friend (formerly Pinkie Pie Rocks) You're only one good thing, and dreams are never worth a thing, my Fluttershy. ~Pinkie Pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkie D Pie 1,036 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 What is this magic you have performed. The show is a lie.... My OC's Shadow Stalker/Aarod Brachuin/Dark Chocolate/Cocoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filly Pinkie Pie 208 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 What is this magic you have performed. The show is a lie.... Yes. Yes, it is. Thanks PixiGlow for my PINKTASTIC SIG!!! Cute Avatar made by Dragonshy! Though you are shy and sweet, and I bake every treat, everyone has differences, even best friends, but I can't see the differences in you and me, my friend (formerly Pinkie Pie Rocks) You're only one good thing, and dreams are never worth a thing, my Fluttershy. ~Pinkie Pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrL0LZ 866 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 Friendship never was magic. It was always actually cooperation. in testing. for science. in Portal 2. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfTheNorthe 412 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 "Magic of Friendship" "Bread of Italy" Friendship Magic Italian Bread So, I guess Friendship is a sub-type of magic? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.RedundantPh.D 60 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 It makes more sense when you understand the magic of friendship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tupin86 195 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 Someone came up with a bunch of mathematical "equations" where they "determined" that friendship doesn't equal magic, but they have a direct relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Blitz 85 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 If there is a Magic of Friendship, the only logic suposition that we can assume is that: Friendship is Magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Rarity Pony 4,892 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 (edited) "...and I knew it was you who had the magic inside to defeat her, but you could not unleash it until you let true friendship into your heart" "She must continue to study the magic of friendship, from her new home in Ponyville" -Princess Celestia S1 Ep2 Edited July 3, 2012 by Lady Rarity Pony 4 LRP's opinions are subject to change without notice. Fees and penalties still apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I used to be a stranger 7,994 July 3, 2012 Author Share July 3, 2012 "...and I knew it was you who had the magic inside to defeat her, but you could not unleash it until you let true friendship into your heart" "She must continue to study the magic of friendship, from her new home in Ponyville" -Princess Celestia S1 Ep2 Aw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponyvangelist 732 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 Nolo Contendre I realize this is all tongue-in-cheek, so... Absence of evidence does not constitute evidence of absence. Likewise, ignoring the subtitle of the entire series deliberately excludes evidence vital to assessing the thesis of "Friendship isn't Magic" and therefore diminishes its validity. Consider, if you will, that nopony explicitly claims Princess Celestia is an alicorn in the show itself. That doesn't mean she isn't one. What's more, we know through such authoritative sources as Sabrina Alberghetti that the production staff refers to her and Luna as alicorns. As those who make the show, they bear the official authority of indisputable canon. All the more so in the case of "Friendship is Magic". We know that this subtitle was bestowed upon the series by none other than than the Creator Herself, God-Empress Lauren, Ultimate Best Pony. It would be no less than a sin to suggest the Goddess and Mother of All Ponies did not speak sooth when naming the show. Ergo, forthwith, heretofore and in accordance with the established legal doctrines of ipse dixit, ipso facto and presto change-o, we can confidently assert that Friendship is indeed Magic, stands as such under Equestrian law, and that declaring otherwise violates said law. Therefore I so move, as the law clearly demands, that the heretic Blue be banished from Equestria, and thrown in a dungeon in the place he is banished to. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filly Pinkie Pie 208 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 "...and I knew it was you who had the magic inside to defeat her, but you could not unleash it until you let true friendship into your heart" "She must continue to study the magic of friendship, from her new home in Ponyville" -Princess Celestia S1 Ep2 Almost forgot that. Proof that friendship is magic. Thanks PixiGlow for my PINKTASTIC SIG!!! Cute Avatar made by Dragonshy! Though you are shy and sweet, and I bake every treat, everyone has differences, even best friends, but I can't see the differences in you and me, my friend (formerly Pinkie Pie Rocks) You're only one good thing, and dreams are never worth a thing, my Fluttershy. ~Pinkie Pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipstream 84 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 A square is a rectangle. A rectangle is not a square. 2 + 2 = 5. Up is down. FRIENDSHIP IS NOT MAGIC. ALL HAIL DISCORD DTHGBKDTBGLDSTRBH .../cough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokuc 8,174 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 "...and I knew it was you who had the magic inside to defeat her, but you could not unleash it until you let true friendship into your heart" "She must continue to study the magic of friendship, from her new home in Ponyville" -Princess Celestia S1 Ep2 Aw.Blue, Haha seriously though, they have never said the sentence "Friendship is magic" and that's weird.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I used to be a stranger 7,994 July 3, 2012 Author Share July 3, 2012 (edited) Absence of evidence does not constitute evidence of absence. Therefore I so move, as the law clearly demands, that the heretic Blue be banished from Equestria, and thrown in a dungeon in the place he is banished to. Edited July 3, 2012 by Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponyvangelist 732 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 The Magic Of Rhetoric Almost forgot that. Proof that friendship is magic. At the risk being banished and thrown in a dungeon myself, I do think it's only fair to point out that the phrase "Magic of Friendship" doesn't necessarily prove "Friendship is Magic". Consider, for example, the phrase "Magic of Disney". It is often used to refer to the effect classic Disney cartoons have on audiences. Yet it would not necessarily follow that "Disney is Magic". It's a huge multibillion-dollar corporate conglomerate that may be able to work magic, but not magic itself. Moving on to the pony world, we can refer to the "Magic of Twilight", since she is a unicorn with powerful magical abilities. But does that mean "Twilight is Magic"? She does represent the spirit of Magic, but that doesn't mean she is Magic any more than Applejack is Honesty or Rarity is Generosity. So while I do maintain that Friendship is Magic (in the show, at least) because Lauren Faust said so (e.g., ipse dixit), I don't believe the expression "Magic of Friendship" itself proves that "Friendship is Magic". Now if you'll excuse me, I think I'll take precautions in case somepony tries to banish me for saying that and I end up sharing a cell with Blue. I'm considering the Chewbacca Defense... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneyshredderofdeath 414 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 Magic Johnson's Wikipedia article has the word "friendship" in the third paragraph. That outta count for something. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I used to be a stranger 7,994 July 3, 2012 Author Share July 3, 2012 I'm considering the Chewbacca Defense... Get in a fight with the bailiff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ⓡⓐⓘⓝⓓⓡⓞⓟⓢ 25 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 dude. one does not just become an honoralbe member of the title friendship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponyvangelist 732 July 3, 2012 Share July 3, 2012 Get in a fight with the bailiff? They won't let me get away with that trick twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I used to be a stranger 7,994 July 3, 2012 Author Share July 3, 2012 They won't let me get away with that trick twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolius rpi 117 July 4, 2012 Share July 4, 2012 (edited) NNONONONONONONNO GUYS GUYS GUYS STOP STOP STOP! YOURE ALL WRONG. ALTHOUGH IT IS NEVER STATE IN-SHOW, FRIENDSHIP IS STILL MAGIC. THERE ARE THINGS CALLED 'INFERENCES.' IF THERE WAS AN EPISODE WHERE CELESTIA EXPLICITLY STATED: "FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC," IT WOULD BE BLATANTLY OBVIOUS AND INULT THE INTELLIGNECE OF THE FANSA. PEOPLE LIE TO MAKE INFERENCES. YOU YOU DIDNT, THEN YOU WOULDNT BE. ITS JUSTA NTURAL THING THT LL BEINGS HAVE. PEOPLE NEDD TO MAKE INFERENCES TO.... BE ALIVE! 100% OF EVERYPONY DOES IT! AN ALTERNATE VIEW IS THAT FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC IN THAT FRIENDSHIP DOESNT EXIST! Edited July 4, 2012 by Fanayvea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavelColt 22,882 July 4, 2012 Share July 4, 2012 CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK CANTERLOCK Do it. Anyway, back to Blue's mindtraps. My vote goes to 'we need a vague theme for the show that is memorable, of which we'll then vaguely reference to sometimes, but never outright. That'll work, right?' I mean, in fact, to me it'd be corny if they outright said it, and it works better as a vague theme. It already renders me haplessly producing popped kernels of corn on the floor when they say 'my little ponies' all the time. But in reality, apparently, friendship and magic are closely related. Your magic lacks power without ZE FRIENDSHIPS, and probably vice-versa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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