Kids growing up to fast

[Shiki 5,855]

Not to be mean or anything but has anyone ever tried whopping his ass? Cause the way i was brought up that would have earned an ass whopping and quick. But i will say this. You got more guts for being able to say it and recognize that there is a problem. And if this is your bio-mother she could learn a lesson from you. But all you can do(if your religious) is pray that they come to their senses one day.

 

They probably get beaten every day, but with the way they're being raised, I doubt it even affects them. She is my biological mother, but she doesn't want anything to do with me, and my feelings parallel hers. I've thought about calling child services, but I don't know if she legitimately does anything wrong enough for me to have to report her. I'm not religious, so I don't pray, but I really do hope that they somehow grow up to be... normal.

[The Razor Wing 879]

Just because something we believe to be "mature" is shown to kids doesn't mean it's bad for them. I mean, what's with this desire to delude kids into thinking that the world is a fantastic place?

 

Why would you want to do that? How does it help them? They don't need a fantasy world to be happy. They should be able to find happiness in the fucked up world that they live in. I mean, how else are they going to survive their years as an adult? Hell, even a teenager? I've seen my family getting abused by my dad, since I was 6. And I'm fine.

 

And about innocence, why is everyone so quick to defend a child's lack of knowledge (because that's why it is). Why does everyone want to keep a kid dumb till he is "old enough". It's stupid. Just stupid.

 

I mean, I think I've seen porn when I was like 10. And there is some really weird stuff there. I don't know if others are like me, but I've turned out pretty fine.

 

So let kids watch anything they want. They're kids. Educate them before their teenage years. It helped me survive them at least.

 

I agree with you on this. The world is a f#cked up place and i to saw my first porn at a young age. But this whole topic just boils down to what society thinks and says a child's life should be like. So all in all it does depend on how the kid reacts to what they are seeing.

[Dusty Soul 2,611]

I disagree. I don't get the whole growing up too fast thing. Just because something we believe to be "mature" is shown to kids doesn't mean it's bad for them. I mean, what's with this desire to delude kids into thinking that the world is a fantastic place?

 

Why would you want to do that? How does it help them? They don't need a fantasy world to be happy. They should be able to find happiness in the fucked up world that they live in. I mean, how else are they going to survive their years as an adult? Hell, even a teenager? I've seen my family getting abused by my dad, since I was 6. And I'm fine.

 

And about innocence, why is everyone so quick to defend a child's lack of knowledge (because that's why it is). Why does everyone want to keep a kid dumb till he is "old enough". It's stupid. Just stupid.

 

I mean, I think I've seen porn when I was like 10. And there is some really weird stuff there. I don't know if others are like me, but I've turned out pretty fine.

 

So let kids watch anything they want. They're kids. Educate them before their teenage years. It helped me survive them at least.

 

I agree with the fact that not every child reacts the same way. I'm saying that kids shouldn't be shown these things until they are mentally ready. Even though you were mentally and physically prepared to see it, doesn't mean that they are. A 4 year old doesn't need to see ax murders, because their only 4. Those tv shows are rated MA for a reason. There's a reason they have the viewer discretion advised thing before the program starts. I was introduced to pornography when I was 7... I can't stand it now. It just makes me sick. Porn is one of those things that give kids the wrong ideas about what love is. Kids are supposed to enjoy their childhood not become worried about things like murder and war. Sometimes innocents is all we have. Edited August 25, 2012 by Dusty Soul

[Bronium 512]

I agree with the fact that not every child reacts the same way. I'm saying that kids shouldn't be shown these things until they are mentally ready. Even though you were mentally and physically prepared to see it, doesn't mean that they are. A 4 year old doesn't need to see ax murders, because their only 4. Those tv shows are rated MA for a reason. There's a reason they have the viewer discretion advised thing before the program starts. I was introduced to pornography when I was 7... I can't stand it now. It just makes me sick. Porn is one of those things that give kids the wrong ideas about what love is. Kids are supposed to enjoy their childhood not become worried about things like murder and war. Sometimes innocents is all we have.

 

By what parameters is "mentally ready"? It's what society thinks. Every kid has a different mentality. And you'd need to do extensive interviews to even get a glimmer of the mental image of a child. So why not let the child decided? Why not let him watch SAW if he thinks he can watch SAW. I mean, if he had to watch SAW against his will (like parents watching it and asking him to be in the same room) I'm all against it, but if he wants to watch it, let him watch it.

 

They're MA because it's what society thinks is the appropriate age to watch that stuff. I mean, take porn. People would be mortified if a 9 year old watched porn, but an 18 year old? Who cares?

 

There's no objective general age for something. The whole rating system is just stupid.

 

Just saying, love isn't defined well. It changed over time. Like at a young age, I was all like "It's this big event when you find the one, and you just know it". I'm not like that now. So don't worry about porn giving the wrong idea about love and because it doesn't (it does) but because it'll change anyways.

 

It doesn't make me sick. So we have different mentalities there.

 

I don't understand why you want their innocence intact. Why? Why lie to them? I don't understand it. Tell them the truth.

[Dusty Soul 2,611]

By what parameters is "mentally ready"? It's what society thinks. Every kid has a different mentality. And you'd need to do extensive interviews to even get a glimmer of the mental image of a child. So why not let the child decided? Why not let him watch SAW if he thinks he can watch SAW. I mean, if he had to watch SAW against his will (like parents watching it and asking him to be in the same room) I'm all against it, but if he wants to watch it, let him watch it.

 

They're MA because it's what society thinks is the appropriate age to watch that stuff. I mean, take porn. People would be mortified if a 9 year old watched porn, but an 18 year old? Who cares?

 

There's no objective general age for something. The whole rating system is just stupid.

 

Just saying, love isn't defined well. It changed over time. Like at a young age, I was all like "It's this big event when you find the one, and you just know it". I'm not like that now. So don't worry about porn giving the wrong idea about love and because it doesn't (it does) but because it'll change anyways.

 

It doesn't make me sick. So we have different mentalities there.

 

I don't understand why you want their innocence intact. Why? Why lie to them? I don't understand it. Tell them the truth.

 

I never said lie to them I just said that we shouldn't tell them. Like I said Childrens mentality rates differ depending on the child. I understand what your saying about the rating system and how it really doesn't matter (I actually somewhat agree with you), but in all honesty I don't agree with what you said in your 1st paragraph and closing sentence. Saw is a very graphic film as you know. I don't think they should even know what SAW is. It's one of those things were they just shouldnt. It's a proven fact that the brain absorbs more information between the ages of 2-10. That information can leave an impression on the child. Innocence is important to me because sometimes, it's all the kid has. YOur basically telling kids that they can't use their imagination. I need to ask you a question... Why should they be shown murders, sex, and profanity?

[Archangel 143]

Too damn early I agree, I lost mine when I was about 12-13. Once I fully knew how to search on Google there wasn't a force on Earth that could stop me from learning everything.

 

On Spaceships.

 

Anyway, I think somewhere in your teens or right before is where you should be introduced to real-world concepts. And I don't mean introduced like, "Okay, let's tell them the stork story now." No, that should've been for before, now is when you hear about what really happens.

 

EDIT: Forgot to mention, once they are exposed a little bit, even a little, even a smidge, even if it's too early, it's too late. Time to explain the rest, otherwise you skew their perspective and deductive abilities. I've seen it happen, those who try damage control, it gets worse. Either the kids fall in love with war, and greed, and power and sex, or the opposite happens, and such things hardly exist to them, because no one would be like that right?

 

Wrong.

Edited August 25, 2012 by Archangel

[Dusty Soul 2,611]

Too damn early I agree, I lost mine when I was about 12-13. Once I fully knew how to search on Google there wasn't a force on Earth that could stop me from learning everything.

 

On Spaceships.

 

Anyway, I think somewhere in your teens or right before is where you should be introduced to real-world concepts. And I don't mean introduced like, "Okay, let's tell them the stork story now." No, that should've been for before, now is when you hear about what really happens.

 

This is what I was trying to get across... Thanks. I agree with that completely. You should be introduced to real world concepts when your a teen, or a 12 year old.

[Archangel 143]

I don't understand why you want their innocence intact. Why? Why lie to them? I don't understand it. Tell them the truth.

Okay, I wanna throw my two cents into this conversation.

 

There have been scientific studies done (I'm too lazy to find the sources, Google it.) that the brain, until it reaches a certain point in maturity, emulates behavior it senses rather than coming up with it's own behavior. That's why teens go through the "rebellious" stage. It seems like they do it to spite their parents, but I think most cases are similar to mine, where, from our experiences and what we see around ourselves, we have chosen to believe things different from each other. Because I am no longer in that "emulating" phase.

 

My dad and I disagree sometimes on our religious views, and we don't always agree, sometimes we believe the other is wrong, but we rarely get mad at each other, since we both can back up our beliefs with our own evidence and support.

 

AND THAT ladies and gents, is growing up, when you no longer emulate and can think for your self. That's why I believe letting kids watch things like SAW too early is bad, because they are in that "emulating" stage still. Now, what you, Mister Bronium, seem to bring up, (Or at least, how I look at it,) is you say that kids exit that emulating stage at different times. To which I completely agree, I also agree that finding when that stage ends is extremely difficult, which is why it's simply easier to pick a young, but not too young of an age to completely expose them to these things. Say 12, now, like I said earlier, if they are exposed too early, (I'm going to use your case as an example, do you mind?) like how you and your family were abused by your father when you were young, (My condolences by the way.) it's best to tell them everything right then, and not try to keep it hidden any more. I think that's what helped with you.

 

I also agree people should find happiness in this world, but there's nothing wrong with giving them a fantasy world either.

 

I remember one kid who I knew very well, he's a lot younger than me so I could watch it happen. He would always watch and do the same things my friends and I did, he was a very violent little brat really. His mother rarely scolded him. I admit, I may have been a bad influence on him, one that I did try, and I hope I did help, to correct. Although, with time, (and some reprimanding from me pleasedon'ttellhismother ) he has grown into one of my best friends, and he no longer has his violent urges either.

[WittyReference 18]

Not to be mean or anything but has anyone ever tried whopping his ass? Cause the way i was brought up that would have earned an ass whopping and quick. But i will say this. You got more guts for being able to say it and recognize that there is a problem. And if this is your bio-mother she could learn a lesson from you. But all you can do(if your religious) is pray that they come to their senses one day.

 

I am 80% sure ass whopping a four year old is considered child abouse. And that is generally frowned upon.

[Bronium 512]

I never said lie to them I just said that we shouldn't tell them. Like I said Childrens mentality rates differ depending on the child. I understand what your saying about the rating system and how it really doesn't matter (I actually somewhat agree with you), but in all honesty I don't agree with what you said in your 1st paragraph and closing sentence. Saw is a very graphic film as you know. I don't think they should even know what SAW is. It's one of those things were they just shouldnt. It's a proven fact that the brain absorbs more information between the ages of 2-10. That information can leave an impression on the child. Innocence is important to me because sometimes, it's all the kid has. YOur basically telling kids that they can't use their imagination. I need to ask you a question... Why should they be shown murders, sex, and profanity?

 

But you said "Those kids will never know of a fantasy world (that every child should have)." Fantasy is not reality. Fantasy is a lie.

 

It's a graphic film yes, but what impression does it make on the kid? That there's a psycho everywhere? Kids aren't idiots. They can discern reality and fantasy. It's not beyond them.

 

And why shouldn't they watch it? What's the reason beyond to save their innocence. See, you think innocence is a good thing. Innocence is bliss. It's ignorance. Would you want that upon your self? Innocence is stupid. It's the lack of knowledge. And you should stop defending it.

 

I never said that they shouldn't use their imagination. I'm just saying tell 'em how it is. Being told the truth doesn't mean you will be less imaginative. What about all the authors of the world, what about all the creators? Are you saying they have no idea of the world? Let me tell you, truth inspires creativity. It gives more reason to your work. It makes you want to send a message and not just make art for the fun of it.

 

If they want to see it, let them see it. If they don't want to see, don't show them it. It's all about choice. I mean, if a child wants to see SAW, tell them what it is, before they see it. If they still want to see it, let them see it. They have a better judgement of their mental readiness, than anyone else does. And when you explain, make sure it's detailed. Don't just say it's gory. Be as detailed as possible.

[Dusty Soul 2,611]

But you said "Those kids will never know of a fantasy world (that every child should have)." Fantasy is not reality. Fantasy is a lie.

 

It's a graphic film yes, but what impression does it make on the kid? That there's a psycho everywhere? Kids aren't idiots. They can discern reality and fantasy. It's not beyond them.

 

And why shouldn't they watch it? What's the reason beyond to save their innocence. See, you think innocence is a good thing. Innocence is bliss. It's ignorance. Would you want that upon your self? Innocence is stupid. It's the lack of knowledge. And you should stop defending it.

 

I never said that they shouldn't use their imagination. I'm just saying tell 'em how it is. Being told the truth doesn't mean you will be less imaginative. What about all the authors of the world, what about all the creators? Are you saying they have no idea of the world? Let me tell you, truth inspires creativity. It gives more reason to your work. It makes you want to send a message and not just make art for the fun of it.

 

If they want to see it, let them see it. If they don't want to see, don't show them it. It's all about choice. I mean, if a child wants to see SAW, tell them what it is, before they see it. If they still want to see it, let them see it. They have a better judgement of their mental readiness, than anyone else does. And when you explain, make sure it's detailed. Don't just say it's gory. Be as detailed as possible.

 

Did you even read the post made by Archangel. That basically answered every one of your questions and statements. I really suggest you read that. That is what I probably would've typed as an answer to this.

[WittyReference 18]

I never said lie to them I just said that we shouldn't tell them. Like I said Childrens mentality rates differ depending on the child. I understand what your saying about the rating system and how it really doesn't matter (I actually somewhat agree with you), but in all honesty I don't agree with what you said in your 1st paragraph and closing sentence. Saw is a very graphic film as you know. I don't think they should even know what SAW is. It's one of those things were they just shouldnt. It's a proven fact that the brain absorbs more information between the ages of 2-10. That information can leave an impression on the child. Innocence is important to me because sometimes, it's all the kid has. YOur basically telling kids that they can't use their imagination. I need to ask you a question... Why should they be shown murders, sex, and profanity?

 

I don't think Bronium wants people to forcefully show their kids murder and pornography. In fact I'm pretty sure showing a kid pornography will land you in jail. If I had a kid that wanted to watch Saw I'd let them watch it. I mean exactly how much of my kids innocence is going to be destroyed by Saw. They're not going to watch it, realize murder is a thing, get depressed and go on a bender. At most my kidd will realize clown dolls are scary and if your leg is trapped saw it off. That's not a loss of innocence, that's handy survival skills. Basically if you don't want your kid to watch Saw then don't let them watch Saw. But it's your fault if your kid's leg gets trapped and they decide the best person to ask for help is the guy with the creepy clown doll.

[Dusty Soul 2,611]

I don't think Bronium wants people to forcefully show their kids murder and pornography. In fact I'm pretty sure showing a kid pornography will land you in jail. If I had a kid that wanted to watch Saw I'd let them watch it. I mean exactly how much of my kids innocence is going to be destroyed by Saw. They're not going to watch it, realize murder is a thing, get depressed and go on a bender. At most my kidd will realize clown dolls are scary and if your leg is trapped saw it off. That's not a loss of innocence, that's handy survival skills. Basically if you don't want your kid to watch Saw then don't let them watch Saw. But it's your fault if your kid's leg gets trapped and they decide the best person to ask for help is the guy with the creepy clown doll.

 

Sorry, but I have to say more then losing innocence, because I've been saying that too much. Saw would leave an impression on the kids brain that won't leave him. That's why I stand where I stand.

[Boxxi The Brony 119]

I know, I hear 5 year old s singing Nicki Minaj. I wish kids would realize that childhood is special and Jersy Shore shouldn't even be watched by 15 year olds let alone kids younger then 10. I will raise my kids with my personal philosophy about society.

 

I honestly think no one should watch Jersey Shore, I mean who wants to watch other peoples lives when you can live your own, just saying.

[~WhiteHawk~ 186]

Sigh. It's a real shame what society is doing to kids.

 

Before my 8 year old sister was pulled out of school she was being sexually assaulted by her classmates. LITTLE 8 YEAR OLDS. It's just... God.

 

I mean, like others, I lost my innocence at an early age. 10 years old, I developed depression, anxiety, anger problems, and abandonment issues. I was forced to grow up and learn to be mistrusting and cold to protect myself from being hurt again. I knew about things a ten year old shouldn't have, like sex, porn, gore, rape, ect.

 

Now I just try to protect my sister from shit other kids her age are exposed to. Thank god our mom pulled her from school and began homeschooling. Imagine having to help you mother explain to you 8 year old sister what the other kids were doing. It's sickening, and is why I'm so protective. Hopefully people stop exposing their kids to such bullshit.

[WittyReference 18]

I honestly think no one should watch Jersey Shore, I mean who wants to watch other peoples lives when you can live your own, just saying.

 

Do we not all watch a show about the lives of six ponies? I for one enjoy watching televion over doing actual things.

[Boxxi The Brony 119]

Do we not all watch a show about the lives of six ponies? I for one enjoy watching televion over doing actual things.

 

Sorry for not clarifying I am talking about the kids who's lives revolve around TV when some kids should just pick up a hobby, but than again you hold a valid point using everything I love against me SHAME ON YOU!

[Valureon 93]

Kids today are exposed to way too much .... They grow up way too fast and lose their innocence too quickly.... There is nothing wrong with taking your time when growing up.... Hang on to your innocence for as long as possible.... (I wish I did ) But yeah kids growing up too quickly really not a good thing.... Probably due to media saturation and what not

[Psych Ward 377]

My dad cussed a lot and I learned quickly not to repeat anything that daddy said. So my first cuss word was repeating my mom. XD

 

Kids are never REALLY innocent. Sure they are way more innocent than the people who raise them, but still. They will still grow up to be either real shitheads, or those few people who actually are good people.

[WittyReference 18]

I honestly think no one should watch Jersey Shore, I mean who wants to watch other peoples lives when you can live your own, just saying.

 

Do we not all watch a show about the lives of six ponies? I for one enjoy watching televion over doing actual things.

Sorry for not clarifying I am talking about the kids who's lives revolve around TV when some kids should just pick up a hobby, but than again you hold a valid point using everything I love against me SHAME ON YOU!

 

But I am those kids whose lives relolve around TV. Thay are me. We are one.

[Boxxi The Brony 119]

Do we not all watch a show about the lives of six ponies? I for one enjoy watching televion over doing actual things.

 

But I am those kids whose lives relolve around TV. Thay are me. We are one.

 

Wait, wut ... Anyways, err, enjoy your TV and life I guess ...

[WittyReference 18]

My dad cussed a lot and I learned quickly not to repeat anything that daddy said. So my first cuss word was repeating my mom. XD

 

Kids are never REALLY innocent. Sure they are way more innocent than the people who raise them, but still. They will still grow up to be either real shitheads, or those few people who actually are good people.

 

If television has taught my anything over the years it is that most people are in fact good people. There are a lot of awful people in the world but they are vastly out numbered by the good and even the great. The bad people just make more noise so we notice them more. Edited August 25, 2012 by WittyReference

[Bronium 512]

Did you even read the post made by Archangel. That basically answered every one of your questions and statements. I really suggest you read that. That is what I probably would've typed as an answer to this.

You do realize that I was typing my post whilst he was typing his and he posted his first right? Right, onto his post.

 

@@Archangel,

 

Great that emulates behavior, but what of the behavior seen in movies and not in real life? I mean, they see more of society rather than movies, at least if they get out a bit (which is on the decline, un/fortunately?). Won't they copy what the majority is doing and not just what a person in the movie is doing?

 

I'm sure that not all kids emulate everything they watch on TV,especially extreme acts that society frowns upon. I mean, one might think they do, with all the news and what not, but I mean, they don't report "A kid wasn't affected by a movie". How many child murderers (kids who murder) are there? And even if they are on the rise (I read some where they are) there could be other factors such as violence in homes (which makes sense since they emulate their parents) rather than just movies.

 

A little clarification here. Do you mean when they no longer can or do you mean when they no longer?

when you no longer emulate and can think for your self

 

Well, continuing on. I know, what you mean, and as a general rule of thumb, it's fine. I mean, if you want to eventually lay down the truth, you can set your arbitrary date as you wish, but if the kids want to learn what the world is like (and I don't know why I'm using SAW because the world is not completely like Saw. Let's say the news) through news (and news can get pretty graphic sometimes) let them, but if they don't want to, don't show them.

 

Really, I'm just arguing that they should have a choice. I'm not saying to make them lose their "innocence" as much as saying let them do what they want. If they want to know the truth from a young age, let them.

 

I'm still confused as to why you think it's impossible to have a fantasy world in the real world. I mean, look at any creator of fictional universes. It's not impossible, and I think knowing the truth might actually allow the kids to create a fantasy world (which, hopefully they can distinguish from reality) rather than giving them your own made up fantasy world.

 

But your best friend was emulating your behavior right? And not the behavior of those in movies and what not right?

[Archangel 143]

Won't they copy what the majority is doing and not just what a person in the movie is doing?

Dunno, Maybe, It's a chance I'd rather not take y'know? Especially when the majority isn't exactly right all the time either. I would like to use all the hate on Bronies when they first revealed themselves as an example.

 

I'm sure that not all kids emulate everything they watch on TV,especially extreme acts that society frowns upon. I mean, one might think they do, with all the news and what not, but I mean, they don't report "A kid wasn't affected by a movie". How many child murderers (kids who murder) are there? And even if they are on the rise (I read some where they are) there could be other factors such as violence in homes (which makes sense since they emulate their parents) rather than just movies.

Not all kids do no, I'm not trying to say they emulate everything. That's... Not what I meant, (I really shouldn't be typing these types of posts at one in the morning should I? ) And yes, of course, there are other factors such as violence in homes. Now, while TV and news and such probably aren't the sole factor, they might not be helping either. Part of the "emulation" kids do is subconscious. I highly doubt any kid who isn't mentally disturbed would kill someone solely because it was okay in Grand Theft Auto, that's just ridiculous, but what it can do is help with the justification of said murder. (I really should use the word murder, there is actually a difference between killing and murdering, but that's for another time.)

 

Now, let me clarify something here, I'm not saying media is going to make a child instantly go on a killing spree, but I think we all agree that what you experience and see as a child affects your personality and how you'll act when you're older. Say, maybe someone stole just useless meaningless items from other players in an MMO, (Not the best of examples right here, but I can't think of a better, more realistic one that still gets my point across at the moment.) and then later he decides, well they won't mind if I just take a few of their LEGO pieces they don't use, (LEGO's? THE HORROR! THE HORROR!) and then when he gets older, he starts taking money, or using that silver tongue of his to lie about why he REALLY needs the money from his parents. Or that, long as his girlfriend doesn't know, he can cheat on her, because he really loves the other person instead so it's fine right? (That's his line of thinking, not my belief, just in case you didn't notice.

 

The domino effect. Why didn't I say that in the first place? Because I'm an idiot sometimes that why.

 

A little clarification here. Do you mean when they no longer can or do you mean when they no longer?

Sorry, I'll clarify that yeah. Anyone can emulate anyone, but at a certain stage it becomes a conscious choice instead of subconscious programming. So I meant when they discover, find out, whatever, that they no longer have to emulate anyone. And are able to choose beliefs on their own.

 

If that doesn't clarify it, then the latter of what you said is closest.

 

but if the kids want to learn what the world is like (and I don't know why I'm using SAW because the world is not completely like Saw. Let's say the news) through news (and news can get pretty graphic sometimes) let them, but if they don't want to, don't show them.

I don't know why I'm using SAW either, I've never even seen it. It's not my kind of movie. Letting your kid learn what the world is like is important. Letting them know that things like rape and robbery happen is a good thing to do. And you should do that at the earliest opportunity. But save the nitty gritty details for later.

 

Like with my stork example, tell 'em that parents make kids by going to a room for while on their own to form a child, which is then delivered by a stork. Or whatever variation you wish. If they stumble upon say, their older brother having sex with his girlfriend, then tell the kid what happens, nitty gritty details included this time...

 

Hmm, okay, not the best example ever, but you get what I mean by saving the nitty gritty bits for later right? Right. Good. You're good at following along, I'll stop patronizing you now.

 

Really, I'm just arguing that they should have a choice. I'm not saying to make them lose their "innocence" as much as saying let them do what they want. If they want to know the truth from a young age, let them.

Thing is, at that age the don't really have as much of a choice as they seem to. Let them learn the truth at a young age fine, maybe not the whole complete truth. Maybe tell them about sex, I never heard the Stork Story growing up, I was just told parents have sex and that it's a very special thing between two people that they do alone. I never knew what actually went on, but I found out on the internet a little bit later.

 

Thing is, while you might tell them about sex, if you tell them about all the bad stuff attached to it, how cheating and casual sex and such can ruin relationships, if not taught to the kid correctly, making sure they know what is and isn't right, can lead to some misjudgments in their future. Please note I said "can" not "will."

 

I'm still confused as to why you think it's impossible to have a fantasy world in the real world. I mean, look at any creator of fictional universes. It's not impossible, and I think knowing the truth might actually allow the kids to create a fantasy world (which, hopefully they can distinguish from reality) rather than giving them your own made up fantasy world.

Wait what? I don't think that. I'm not sure what gave you that idea. Grr, there I go being vague and confusing again! Shame on me!

 

It's perfectly possible to have a fantasy world. I don't recall saying it wasn't... and maybe I'm missing a post of mine, but I can't seem to find where you would've gotten that idea from me. Actually, I think having a fantasy world is fine.

 

Can I go off-tangent here? Thanks, I dislike your use of the word "truth" I'm not saying keep the "truth" or knowledge away from kids. I'm trying to say... actually, hold up, I'm saving that bit for the end. Almost done I promise!

 

But your best friend was emulating your behavior right? And not the behavior of those in movies and what not right?

Yeaaaah no, my behavior, while not the best, wasn't what I meant by being a bad influence. I mean watching and playing what I watched and played influenced what he watched and played, since I was kinda his big brother figure, he wanted to do what I did. Like all little brothers do. I acted no where near as violent as he did back then. Except when I was being sarcastic, I wonder is he just didn't pick up on my sarcasm? I try to make it pretty obvious...

 

Phew, okay, final thoughts, here we go.

 

See, what bothers me about your use of the word "truth," is that there is not telling it, and then there is telling it correctly. I guess my main complaint with kids seeing all these things, and "growing up too quickly" is ultimately stemming from my dislike of how kids have been raised now a days.

 

When I first went to public school it was crazy in there, drugs, lies, horrible relationship drama, and bunch of stuff that could've been prevented had the parent taught their kid how to properly react to such things. Instead of making kids ignorant of the "truth" as you say, parents should teach their children how to cope and react to the "truth." And sometimes, reactions and coping need to be taught when they can understand it. Which may not be the same age at which they can be exposed to it.

 

Ugh, this was all wrapped up better in my head a second ago why didn't I write it then!

 

Teach kids to learn, to always seek answers, to never take things at face value, that one of the best things you can do is doubt, because then you feel the need to seek out the truth. Teach your kids to think through problems and situations, logically, reasonably, rationally, and scientifically. I guess, that's mainly what I'm saying. Or, It's too late and I shouldn't be writing this and watching Doctor Who. One or the other.

 

Now let's see what those other two notifications I have now are.

 

EDIT: I forgot to mention! Make sure the news stations and such the look at are reliable and tell the stories straight. Unlike a certain foxy station. (See what I did there?)

 

EDIT 2: Dear sweet Celestia am I long winded! Am I always like this?

 

EDIT 3: Last edit I promise. Since I haven't gotten a response yet I assume I'll have to wait a while. I'd love to keep going, tomorrow night, since in the morning I have to go to church and then I have a long drive to go pick up my new kitty (yay!) So I'll see you all tomorrow! Bye!

Edited August 25, 2012 by Archangel

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By what parameters is "mentally ready"? It's what society thinks. Every kid has a different mentality. And you'd need to do extensive interviews to even get a glimmer of the mental image of a child. So why not let the child decided? Why not let him watch SAW if he thinks he can watch SAW. I mean, if he had to watch SAW against his will (like parents watching it and asking him to be in the same room) I'm all against it, but if he wants to watch it, let him watch it.

 

They're MA because it's what society thinks is the appropriate age to watch that stuff. I mean, take porn. People would be mortified if a 9 year old watched porn, but an 18 year old? Who cares?

 

There's no objective general age for something. The whole rating system is just stupid.

 

Just saying, love isn't defined well. It changed over time. Like at a young age, I was all like "It's this big event when you find the one, and you just know it". I'm not like that now. So don't worry about porn giving the wrong idea about love and because it doesn't (it does) but because it'll change anyways.

 

It doesn't make me sick. So we have different mentalities there.

 

I don't understand why you want their innocence intact. Why? Why lie to them? I don't understand it. Tell them the truth.

 

Wouldn't you like to live in a world without drug addicts, murder, rape, and where the worst thing that can happen is your mom saying no when you ask to go to a friends house? Because that's the world I lived in until I was 10 or so. Frankly, if my parents had let me have free rein over the movies I watched, games I played, and sites I visited, my childhood wouldn't have been near as innocent and happy as it was. I'm not saying kids should be left in the dark forever, but why deprive them of a chance to live in a near perfect world (in their mind). What purpose does it serve?