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Twilight Sparkle Alicorn/Princess Speculation [SPOILERS]


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  1. 1. Would you approve of Twilight becoming an alicorn?

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Here's what we know so far:

 

1. Back before the release of S3, The Hub did a Twitter feed with Tara Strong hosting it.  She stated "no, Twilight does not become an Alicorn in Season 3" to a person's reply.  While it's very realistic/quite possible a representative from Hasbro, The Hub, or both was watching the feeds, coaching Tara Strong on what to say, it's also reasonable to assume she was telling the truth.  Although she can be quite the troll, Tara Strong is Queen of the bronies.  There are times when the voice actress knows to be serious.
 

2. The text from the April DVD has a good bit of flavor to it:

 

 

She has an older brother named Shining Armor who is introduced in the two-part finale of the second season.  Shining Armor marries Twilight's former foalsitter Princess Cadance who inducts Twilight into royalty; she is listed as royalty on trading cards of Cadance and Shining Armor. She represents the element of magic.


 

3. We have seen several little nuances here.  Most recently, we saw a magazine promo showing Twilight looking pony with wings.  However, as someone pointed out, these wings looked similar to Rarity's wings from the Sonic Rainboom.
 

4. Alicorns are most often portrayed as Princesses.  Cadence was originally going to be a unicorn by Faust's design.  This was changed.  Also, during Hearts and Hooves Day, the image in the book the Cutie Mark Crusaders are looking in changes.  The unicorn princess image goes from having no wings to having wings.  While that can't be 100% confirmation, possibly an artistic error, we have no way of knowing.
 

Also, we have Queen Chrysalis who, while a changeling/different species, is an alicorn type of pony having a horn and insect like wings.  We cannot confirm the gender of the changelings that invaded Canterlot.  If it works like bees, we have seen workers who were all female. 

 

5. Special Note: Twilight has been steadily learning magical spells. Our first clue for the season comes from the book at the end of the second episode of Season 3, a book with some unique symbols on it. During Too Many Pinkie Pies, the adorkable unicorn is practicing an unusual spell.  Now, again, while we can't confirm what she was working on and its original intention, but the pony did turn a frog and bird into an orange.  It's also during Wonderbolt Academy that we hear about Twilight still practicing spells. 
 

6. Twilight is the regular height and size of a pony.  As we've seen in the show, there are few mares that have a "regal form" that Celestia, Luna, and Cadence have.  So far, only Sapphire Shores and Fleur De Lis have had these body types.
 

7.  We also received information that we would soon be learning a bit of history about Celestia and Luna.  What pertains to this history is a BIG unknown factor. 
 

8. We don't know how a pony comes into power or how Royalty truly works.  If an alicorn is born, does that automatically make them a princess? I mostly say princess because all alicorns that we have seen are female.  We have no information about other alicorns, and no information about "Prince" blue blood.  The royal pain could have simply been adopted into royalty, though I do believe a writer said he isn't related to Celestia.
 

Looking at the information we have, there are a number of ways that you can go.
 

1. Signs are really looking grim.  With that book from the beginning of Season 3 and Twilight practicing what looks to be "Transformation magic," it's quite possible Celestia wants to have Twilight "fulfill" her destiny by casting her most advanced spell.  The spell will transform the unicorn's body, making her take on a "regal" appearance.  This “final spell” of her old life will be the Amniomorphic spell we saw Luna "potentially" using in the episode Luna Eclipsed when she transforms into Nightmare Moon.  Undoubtedly, this will fulfill Hasbro's wish, turning Twilight into "pretty, pretty Princess," so they can sell those product lines.  I'm still unsure of why Faust left MLPFIM, but this might be one of the issues if Hasbro was taking too many liberties with her characters.
 

Another reason that leads to this idea is the fact Celestia sent Twilight to Ponyville to learn about friendship.  Learning from ponies that represent generosity, kindness, laughter, honesty, and loyalty, it’s possible the unicorn will be the supreme wielder of
the Elements of Harmony.   Instead of a spell transformation Twilight, we could certainly see the potential of the elements of harmony converging in the unicorn, turning her into an Alicorn.  As we saw in Return of Harmony and Keep Calm and Flutter On, if you lose an element of harmony, you lose the ability to wield their power.  This also happened as Luna and Celestia had their split, thus they can’t use the power.
 

3.  Honorary Title.  I find the idea of an Honorary Title to be a best case scenario.  It could be the title of Princess is bestowed onto Twilight because Cadence wants to induct her into a royal family, giving the unicorn special political powers to oversee things that have yet to come.  Twilight's destiny is to take over Star Swirl the Bearded's role.  His role was that of an arch magus/guardian of Equestria who faithfully served at the side of Princess Celestia and Princess Luna in their time of need.  With his absence, this left a vacuum of a needed protector.
 

It is in the anime Familiar of Zero, in one episode, that the main character Louise is granted an honorary title by royalty.  Personally, I am ok with this idea.  If Twilight is just granted a title, it helps to keep her firmly on the ground since it could be taken away at any point, just like her role of being Celestia’s student.
 

Also, going back to Tara Strong’s Twitter feed from the Hub, this helps lend credence to the idea of it being an honorary title.  However, there is a very BIG grey area.  It’s quite possible Tara Strong may mean “Twilight Sparkle doesn’t become a permanent Alicorn” or “no, Twilight becomes an alicorn, but gives it up at the end of the episode to stay with her friends.”

 

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From the latest episode, we know that ponies start switching Cutie marks because Twilight casts a spell.  We don’t know the intention of this spell, but it causes some serious problems with ponies switching Cutie Marks and destinies.  Some are theorizing that Twilight trades cutie marks with one of the Princesses, more than likely Princess Celestia, and her body changes into a regal form.

 

This is a very likely scenario, and if things go back to normal, it fulfills two goals.  Twilight is still crowned Princess as the end, more than likely, and she gained a temporary regal form.  The form can be used to "inspire" imaginations.  It's also quite possible that instead of the marks just switching, Twilight accumulates them, growing wings first because she gets the cutie mark of RD or Fluttershy.

 

This idea also goes in line with the grey area of Tara Strong’s twitter post as she said “No, Twilight doesn’t become an alicorn in Season 3,” sing it was temporary, and the result of a freak spell.
 

We have no way of knowing due to the ambiguity surrounding the nature of her
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For a show that espouses the idea of friendship and camaraderie, the potential of turning Twilight into an Alicorn, elevating the unicorn above her friends, really urinates all over the idea.  It creates a huge sense of awkwardness.  Another thing I’m sick of if the defense argument of “she’s a powerful unicorn that just gains wings” or “she just gains wings” with people spouting that non-stop as if it automatically halts all arguments in their tracks like some elderly crossing guard throwing up a stop sign at an intersection. 


 

Anyways, that’s just my 2 bits on this matter of Twilight becoming a Princess, turning into an Alicorn, "potentially" turning into an alicorn excuse me, and what not.  I’m leaving this topic alone since this idea/topic has really been done to death.  Just gives me a headache, and i'm going to enjoy the rest of the show. 



 

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I would like to revive the idea placed somewhere on this forum for a possible episode idea that seems reasonable. Spoilered because length.

 

 

 

 

'Due to some form of magic mishap, a portion of Celestia's power pops over to Twilight Sparkle and temporarily renders her an alicorn. While Luna handles the celestial bodies and avoids drowning in paperwork, Celestia gets an episode as either an ordinary mare or working side-by-side with Twilight to fix what happened. At the end of the episode, Celestia gets her power back and Twilight resumes being the special unicorn we all know and love.'

 

While it might be the biggest trolling ever, if and when an episode like that DOES come out, it will serve as a warning that Twilight permanently becoming an alicorn is either scheduled for the end of the show, before that, or absolutely never, depending on subtle cues such as what exactly the royal sisters are doing during certain points of the episode and if Celestia admits she planned the whole thing to get a day off.

 

If Celestia planned the thing and doesn't seem to put that much (non)effort into relaxing on the one day off she'll get in who knows how long, Twilight alicorn might be on the way around the generation finale. If Celestia says it was a complete accident or intentions of a villain and nothing she was shown doing beforehand implies she, Luna, or even the Elements could possibly be reasonably responsible in any way, shape, or form, it was a pure accident and alicorn Twi will remain for that episode or a villain's taunts forever.

 

If anyone other than Twilight is an alicorn-for-a-day, that throws the whole thing off and the episode is a screwball to hide the real megaplot in the background, side-events, and minor things.

 

 

 


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How do you know what Celestia has done in 1000 years? We know a little about all that time after all.

I don't know really, but i always had that impression. Maybe she uses her magic in very tragic situations. I really want to watch an episode showing Celestia's story and magic skills, that would be awesome  ^_^

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8. We don't know how a pony comes into power or how Royalty truly works.  If an alicorn is born, does that automatically make them a princess? I mostly say princess because all alicorns that we have seen are female.  We have no information about other alicorns, and no information about "Prince" blue blood.  The royal pain could have simply been adopted into royalty, though I do believe a writer said he isn't related to Celestia.

 

 

 

 

I do think that every Alicorn is royalty, seeing as Lauren Faust said back in 2010 that "the only races in My Little Pony are Earth Pony, Pegasus and Unicorn, and they are all treated equally, ruled by a leader who embodies the traits of all three", which if I understand correctly would mean that there are no non-regal Alicorns, right?  I might just be very wrong though    :huh:

 

 

 

 

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Where the crap is anyone getting this Alicorn Twilight thing from? I'm seeing it everywhere. I saw some image where people were saying was some sort of foreshadowing for it but all I saw was her cutie mark in the background.

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Where the crap is anyone getting this Alicorn Twilight thing from? I'm seeing it everywhere. I saw some image where people were saying was some sort of foreshadowing for it but all I saw was her cutie mark in the background.

 

Well there is this sticker:

 

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And then the "Princess Coronation" commercial on the Hub that a lot of people interpret as being Twilight's coronation, implying that she will become an alicorn... 

 

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Wouldn't be the first time Hasbro has had non-canon merchandise though. Before Cadence was put in the show she was a non-canon princess.

 

As for the commercial even if she does become a princess there's nothing saying she'll be an Alicorn.

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I mean Is Niggertron a Princess?

 

I had to google this, because...well, just because.  My wife and I looked at each other and said "that's a thing?"  Apparently it is.

 

Anyways, about the topic at hand: I'm 50/50 as to whether or not the Hub will make her an alicorn, and about 70/30 as to whether they'll make her a princess.  But do I care?  Not really.  As with damn near everything else in the show, as long as it's cute, reasonably consistent and not overly pandering, my jimmies remain unrustled.


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Spoiler for episode synopsis for season finale.

 

 

The last episode synopsis says that the cutie marks get switched. what if Twilight gets Celestia's cutie mark, which gives her wings and makes her a princess? Not permanently, obviously, but you get the idea.

 

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I hear people say "Derp if Twilight becomes an alicorn shes a princess derp". However I disagree. No where did Anyone Say Only Princess could be Alicorns or Vise vesra. I mean Is Niggertron a Princess?

Also if thats true then why isnt Rarity a Princess, she was an Alicorn for a moment.

Ways to become a Princess:

Marry a Prince.

Have your parents Royalty.

But the ways to become an Alicorn are.....We dont know. For all we know a Unicorn might put Robot wings on herself would that make the Unicorn a Princess?

Intil proven otherwise If Twilight becomes a Alicorn she wont become a Princess. Period.

Seriously?

 

Receiving enchanted wings, which aren't even alicorn wings, didn't mean she was an Alicorn.

 

Alicorns have stronger magic, by the looks of it, it took several unicorns to raise the sun, when it only takes one Alicorn, Rarity's magic wasn't enchanted, saying she turned into an Alicorn, is saying that if AJ had received the wings, she was a Pegasus.

 

Anyways, back on topic.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they made her a princess after she turned into an Alicorn, i wouldn't mind much, I trust the show's creators to make the show good as ever :V


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Don't forget about all of the Princess Skyla toys! The last season finale was a wedding wasn't it? ;)  That could always mean that Twi isn't become a princess, i mean they didn't specify who was becoming a princess.

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I personally don't like the idea of a Twilight alicorn.  It just messes with the ponyverse too much (as many others have already outlined in posts before mine.)

It wouldn't surprise me if Hasbro did make a move like this to expand their toy line.  Maybe they are doing it to test the waters and see how much backlash they will get, or if it will increase their profits.  Like someone else said there are many ways they could always write themselves out of it such as it was just a dream, it was just temporary, etc. if it didn't turn out quite as they expected (assuming they made such a move in the first place of course.)

I guess we will all just have to wait and see if the rumors are true or not!

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I wouldn't  mind if she became an Alicorn only to wake up and find out it was a dream, or if it was temporary and she asked to become a normal unicorn because she wanted to be with her friends above all, I realize they want to sell more toys and that's alright as long as it doesn't permanently or drastically alter the show.


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This sounds like something that was purely rumor, but keeps circulating between bronies. I'm just waiting until this Princess Coronation episode airs and proves all these conspiracy theorists wrong. Princess Skyla, seems the more likely candidate for this episode. (As her filly image, not the baby toy.)

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I actually kind of like this idea. Knowing the staff, they would probably somehow make this idea work. I mean the idea of the episode, Keep Calm and Flutter On had a lot of potential to completely suck, but the writers found out how to make that episode amazing.

 

Same with this idea, sure it could be a rather disastrous plot move, but I'm sure there's some ways on how to make it work. Seriously, you guys aren't giving the writers credit they deserve on this. Whatever happened to our cautious optimism?

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I think a good way for Twilight

to become a alicorn just for

some humor is if

she switched bodies

with Cel or Luna for a day!

 

Like a spell gone wrong or something

or a bet of some kind in a lesson to learn

kinda deal.

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Considering previous generations of MLP, how this would be presented in canon, and the amount of legitimate evidence that has been presented in the show, definitely not. The entire idea would just ruin the show to me - Twilight doesn't sound like a pony who would separate herself from her friends and become power-hungry. What would happen to the future of MLP if that happened?

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Considering that S4 has been announced already (I believe this is the case yes?) they arn't exactly going to do a huge amount to disrupt the status-quo of the show, or they wouldn't be able to do the 4th season so personally I am not at all worried



It's just my opinion.  She's way too prissy and smart.  Can't she fail just once?  Everything she does wrong turns out okay.  It drives me insane.

 

There is an excellent picture somewhere that has a caption very similar to this, with twilight's various failures parading in the background (To mention a few, Pinkie Sense, Lesson Zero, Crystal Empire ect.)

Lets be honest here, does any of the characters ever get into a situation that doesn't turn out ok in the end?


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Now usually I would be completely opposed to something like alicorn Twilight. 

 

But what if somehow, Twilight was only an alicorn for one episode (season 3 finale?)? . I still don't really like the idea, but I wouldn't mind it. 

 

Hasbro could make all those toys they want. And the Mane Six would be the same as ever, it wouldn't ruin the show. If they do make Twilight an alicorn, I think this makes more sense than have her be an alicorn forever. I mean, every time the main characters have some sort of change in these types of shows, they always go back to normal in the end. 

 

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Absolutely! I love Twilight as is! I wouldn't want her to become an alicorn, just for the toys, but Twilight returning to normal afterwards seems like a pretty good idea.

 

Like how Rarity gained wings for an ep, or the Unicorns and Pegasi losing their wings and horns!


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Actually, Twilight will not become a alicorn. A recent toy, Princess Skyla, has been released. It has qualities of bot Shhining Armor and Princess Cadence. So in one of the finales, namely, Princess Coronation, Princess Skyla, more likely than not, will be introduced as the new Alicorn. Not Twillight. Don't believe me? Look on google images, "Princess Skyla", and a toy having both traits of Cadence and Shining will be seen.

 

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This has been my theory for the past week or so, that she will ascend to alicornhood but will ultimately reject it, choosing to stay with her friends and simultaneously revealing how far that she has come since season one.

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Actually, Twilight will not become a alicorn. A recent toy, Princess Skyla, has been released. It has qualities of bot Shhining Armor and Princess Cadence. So in one of the finales, namely, Princess Coronation, Princess Skyla, more likely than not, will be introduced as the new Alicorn. Not Twillight. Don't believe me? Look on google images, "Princess Skyla", and a toy having both traits of Cadence and Shining will be seen.

 

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Several pieces or merchandise depicting what looks like winged Twilight Sparkle has been spotted. Most recent, a toy magazine. EQD actually reported on this about a week ago.

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