music What is it about Dub-step that people dont like?

[Freewave 1,145]

Is Dubstep itself not a Sub-Genre anyway?

 

 

There is nothing wrong with Dubstep (or BroStep, whatever the buck you wanna class it all as), its the people who listen to it that irritate me, you get it with most genres of music anyway, but it seems more prominent with Dubstep/Brostep/Whogivesabuckstep, the 10 year old kids thinking its the best thing ever and that it will last forever that just spend their entire time disrespecting other genres of music.

 

Well Dubstep, the original kind with the dub (sub bass, reverb and delay) and the (1/2) step (duh) came out of Uk Garage so technically it WAS a subgenre at that time much like 2step and grime from that same tree. BUT once it really departed from that to become its own reality and have a lot more subgenres and styles underneath it (Brostep, Purple Sound, Wonky, Chillstep, Post-Dubstep) it really became one of the few parent genres in EDM. It's a akin to a tree branch getting really long so that the seeds drop from it and another tree sprouts up (a lot like how Drum & Bass sprouted from UK Hardcore and Trance. So dubstep NOW doesn't have a set meaning or sound like it did when it started because it's deeply split off in many different directions. That's why you get the kids who scream for the stuff but are only digging the brostep continuum and not any of the other (more artisitic) styles or the the original style (which some people NOW call uk step to honor its origins as american started the whole brostep movement). A lot of fans of classic dubstep just hate that and some people find that side of the original genre simply boring and stuff you can't play actively in a club (which itself is somewhat true, they weren't club bangers).

 

Funny thing too is one of the best regarded dubstep albums is by Burial who a lot of people now aren't even technically considering Dubstep anymore but the beginning of Future Garage (or people can just say that he did his own thing regardless of any genre tags). So there's plenty of reason for confusion when people say "Dubstep" because that's like saying "Metal" or "Rock" because it doesn't mean anything specific anymore. It did back in 2005 though before it splintered. Whether it's a big happy family or one where all the the different subgenres depends on your own pov.

Edited May 25, 2013 by Freewave

[Discovery Dream 592]

I like music with a bit more melody, and I've never really liked loud noises. It may some other people's cup of tea but I've never been into it. Simple as that

[Freewave 1,145]

I won't claim to like or hate it as i'm still confused..

Its just modern techno, no real differences between, except someone decided to give it a new name and many will fight to the death that there is a difference of some sort...

 

Pretty bad when the duo known as daft punk went from being all out techno to suddenly being labeled dubstep.... they haven't exactly changed anything ever. Yet again, some will defend to the end they are "dubstep" while others still know them as "techno"

 

guess the "retro" name is just to old and no one wants to use it

kinda like "flare bottom" jeans... they're just bell bottoms with a new name....

 

Sorry but there is just SO much wrong with your statement here. No one has ever called Daft Punk dubstep   or techno (well maybe a few early tracks off Homework if you're seriously reaching). Techno is itself a parent genre and a widely fractued one as well and one that gets little music these days tbh. If you're looking for a open ended term for electronic dance music call it  EDM. Dubstep has nothing to do with Techno other than they are both forms of EDM and you can get your groove on in a club to both.

 

 

My opinion:

Simply put dubstep doesn't do much for me because it's not my music, it's the next generation's and there's not a lot of emphasis on the melody, i'm not a big bass fan, and i hate all the noise for noise sake. Plus it's just hard to dance to music that's really going at 70 bpm (half of the standard 140) as that's really slow hip-hop then. There's few people making dubstep tracks with an emotional connection and people i think do have it right that the older version is a bit boring and the newer brostep style is just noisy. There's little common ground and art involved. I also think that brony dubstep mostly does a terrible job of showing off the show as it just isnt a style that can tell a fannon story about mlp most of the time.

Edited May 25, 2013 by Freewave

[Soundgarden 2,758]

I won't claim to like or hate it as i'm still confused..

Its just modern techno, no real differences between, except someone decided to give it a new name and many will fight to the death that there is a difference of some sort...

 

Pretty bad when the duo known as daft punk went from being all out techno to suddenly being labeled dubstep.... they haven't exactly changed anything ever. Yet again, some will defend to the end they are "dubstep" while others still know them as "techno"

 

guess the "retro" name is just to old and no one wants to use it

kinda like "flare bottom" jeans... they're just bell bottoms with a new name....

 

You're shitting me, right? Dubstep and Techno are 2 completely different things. Don't believe me?

 

Here is a typical Techno song:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaThtqe1YI0

 

Here is a typical Dubstep song:

 

 

 

And I have never seen anyone call Daft Punk's music Dubstep, and whoever does have no idea what they are talking about. If you see someone say so, just ignore them. And they were never Techno to begin with, they have only played House music (some call it French House though)

[Mio Akiyama 145]

I personally love Dubstep along with some other genres. But the thing is, people made Skrillex the face of dubstep. In my opinion, Skrillex probably is the worst dubstep producer I've ever heard, especially his newer songs like Bangarang. I despise Bangarang. Same damn thing for 3-4 min straight. Just no. Some dubstep/any other electronic music producer that I enjoy is knife party, netsky, doctor p, and bassnectar.

Btw Netsky is drum n bass

Edited May 25, 2013 by The Big Bad Wolf

[tehepicpony 22]

Like with all music, dubstep is opinion based, some people like it, other people don't.

 

I, personally like dubstep, but nobody else in my household does, their reasons being "It's only noise" and "It's too loud"

 

Honestly, this applies to all music, you either love it or hate it. For example, where I live, country music is the big thing, every summer, we have a local mini-Nashville country music festival. I dislike country, but I go anyways. Whenever somebody asks me what I listen to, I say Dubstep, not country. Clearly, I get thrashed for it, because I'm at a festival for country music, and I don't like country.

 

I repeat, It's all based on the magical thing known as an "Opinion"

Unrelated, YOU STOLE MY SIG PIC THAT I WAS GONNA ADD TODAY. DANGIT HATTY, DANGIT. 

 

But dubstep can be good, LIKE IN THE BORDERLANDS 2 TRAILER

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Dude, dont just bash it , i like it, my friends like it, and there are some talented dub-step artists who dont just do dub-step , and you should know that dub-step is actually REALLY hard to make , i was hoping for a critique's point of view kind of thing, not just bashing it because you dont like it , i for one am not a HUMONGOUS fan of dub-step where I'll listen to any kind of artist, but i still listen to it every now and again..

 

 

Which I did, I just didn't sugar coat it technical jargon. Also, like I said before, don't give me the "it's complex and hard to make" excuse, that doesn't make the final product good. I'm sure Twilight took months of hard work write that 544 pages of purple prose littered fine print, but that doesn't make it good. Allow me to post this video I found that shows what Dubstep sounds like to my ears, it makes me actually disorientated and ill.

 

[dedacct6 2,591]

Which I did, I just didn't sugar coat it technical jargon. Also, like I said before, don't give me the "it's complex and hard to make" excuse, that doesn't make the final product good. I'm sure Twilight took months of hard work write that 544 pages of purple prose littered fine print, but that doesn't make it good. Allow me to post this video I found that shows what Dubstep sounds like to my ears, it makes me actually disorientated and ill.

 

Ahhh,yes i see you're one of THOSE kind of people, who bash things on purpose, just to hate it, yea you dont like it, doesnt mean you have to make others *including me* not like it.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Ahhh,yes i see you're one of THOSE kind of people, who bash things on purpose, just to hate it, yea you dont like it, doesnt mean you have to make others *including me* not like it.

 

No, no I'm not. There's actually very few things I legitimately can't stand, and I never said you can't like it, please don't put words in my mouth.  

[Soundgarden 2,758]

Ahhh,yes i see you're one of THOSE kind of people, who bash things on purpose, just to hate it, yea you dont like it, doesnt mean you have to make others *including me* not like it.

 

Dude, you're the one exaggerating here, Shoboni was simply stating his opinion, every single person on earth have the right to do so. You can bash his music taste as much as he can bash yours

 

Which I did, I just didn't sugar coat it technical jargon. Also, like I said before, don't give me the "it's complex and hard to make" excuse, that doesn't make the final product good. I'm sure Twilight took months of hard work write that 544 pages of purple prose littered fine print, but that doesn't make it good. Allow me to post this video I found that shows what Dubstep sounds like to my ears, it makes me actually disorientated and ill.

 

You're talking about Brostep here, Dubstep isn't a retarded shrieking and ear shattering, vocal sampling rape fest

Edited May 25, 2013 by Soundgarden

[Pulcinella 1,016]

I am asking the same thing. I love dubstep, it's so incredibly epic. And I can't explain why I like it either. Hmm.... I guess it just sounds really good. My dad hates it though, so I guess you could just ask him.

[dedacct6 2,591]

No, no I'm not. There's actually very few things I legitimately can't stand, and I never said you can't like it, please don't put words in my mouth.  

meh, I'm not trying to get you to like it, if its your opinion, whatever i have no problem if you dont like it because Dub-step does get annoying if its over played 

 

I am asking the same thing. I love dubstep, it's so incredibly epic. And I can't explain why I like it either. Hmm.... I guess it just sounds really good. My dad hates it though, so I guess you could just ask him.

HA, it is, though there is some really crappy ones  but i just dont listen to those, i guess its because of how bad ass some dub-step songs are 

[caramba2654 602]

Ok. I will try to explain why I like dubstep so much. I might fail epically, though.

 

First of all, I like bass. I have a rock band and I always get picky on the bassist because he isn't very outstanding in the songs. That's because the bass is my favorite instrument, and I like to hear it loud.

 

Second, I like low frequency sounds. I dunno why, but my ears find it pleasant. Like, I could put a 40Hz some-color-here noise track on my iPod and keep listening to it the whole day.

 

Third, I have lots of imagination. I love to read and create stories. With dubstep, I can do it more than with any other genre. Like, close your eyes, listen to this track and try not to imagine a giant Transformer watching you get shot by an awesome giant laser which shoots crazy beams of many different colors and shapes according to the shape of the music.

 

 

 

Fourth, I'm very emotional. I like feeling many emotions, and being able to do that when I want is just perfect. For example, when I want to feel calm and disturbed at the same time, I listen to this:

 

 

 

When I want to do something that it's not appropriate for the situation, I listen to this song. I fell like it makes me feel restraint, because of the repetitive stuff at the drop.

 

 

 

 

 

That pretty much sums up why I like dubstep. But keep in mind I also like rock, metal, and other stuff (for almost the same reasons). :3

Edited May 25, 2013 by caramba2654

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Dude, you're the one exaggerating here, Shoboni was simply stating his opinion, every single person on earth have the right to do so. You can bash his music taste as much as he can bash yours

 

 

You're talking about Brostep here, Dubstep isn't a retarded shrieking and ear shattering, vocal sampling rape fest

 

As for the other kind, I'm just not a fan of real inorganic sounding music(with the exception of video game music and some other stuff) When it comes to more techo-y stuff I like the kind that still has somewhat of a feel of real instruments, like this:

 

[Soundgarden 2,758]

As for the other kind, I'm just not a fan of real inorganic sounding music(with the exception of video game music and some other stuff) When it comes to more techo-y stuff I like the kind that still has somewhat of a feel of real instruments, like this:

 

There are actually Dubstep artists who use electronic equipment in a more "instrumental" way, several Post-Dubstep groups/artists do this. James Blake and Mount Kimbie instantly comes to mind, so even Dubstep can keep the spirit of "instrumental" music alive

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LPaqAQ4u48

[TwilizzleFoShizzle 95]

See here is when changing one words gets annoying and complicated, I never implied nor said harmonic in the sense of scales, I meant it as in -quoting oxford dictionary-  "the state of being in agreement or concord", Yes there is a huge muscial base in dubstep, yes they are music I said so in my original post, but theyre not... symetrical in their composition nor try to be pleasant all the time, what I meant is that this contrast between sounds makes people uncomfortable, and many dont enjoy that.

oh okay, I misread. If I understand correctly, you're reffering to the inherent dissonance of most commonly recognized dubstep, would this be fair to say?

 

 

 

One last thing, I used Bangarang as an example of how "Brostep" sounds like, and the second to show how "Dubstep" sounds like. If it's good or not, is up to you

 well if it has nothing to do with the popularity of the song then what is the difference between dubstep and brostep? I went back and looked at your original post but real dubstep is not random at all, and you can't claim a song is loud because its volume is entirely dependent on the person who plays the song back and through what device it is played back.

[Lemonpie 47]

 

oh okay, I misread. If I understand correctly, you're reffering to the inherent dissonance of most commonly recognized dubstep, would this be fair to say?

 

Pretty much yes, what I meant is that people either dislike the uncomfortable feeling asociated with it, or just completely disagrees on it being music at all.

[Moog the Kvlt 1,460]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LPaqAQ4u48

 

James Blake, cool bro. Also just to throw it out, this doesn't just apply to Dubstep music, as it applies to any other style of electronic music.

 

As for the other kind, I'm just not a fan of real inorganic sounding music(with the exception of video game music and some other stuff) When it comes to more techo-y stuff I like the kind that still has somewhat of a feel of real instruments, like this:

 

There are quite a few electronic bands and artists who still like to go the old fashioned way with their performances and play their instruments live, not just in Dubstep.

 

well if it has nothing to do with the popularity of the song then what is the difference between dubstep and brostep? I went back and looked at your original post but real dubstep is not random at all, and you can't claim a song is loud because its volume is entirely dependent on the person who plays the song back and through what device it is played back.

 

Listen to those songs that Soundgarden posted again if you can't tell the difference, since it's pretty obvious. Also in today's technology producers do have special equipment that lets them make the track louder.

Edited May 26, 2013 by Blackwater Moog

[TwilizzleFoShizzle 95]

 

 

today's technology producers do have special equipment that lets them make the track louder.

and we still have a volume down button. The music may be louder at a set volume level but that doesn't mean it can't be turned down. I see how they sound different, I'm just confused as to the technical difference between them. 

[Rainbow Sherbet 36]

I'm a huge fan of bro-step. Almost all of my friends hate it, but I really like a good bass, and that's what bro-step is all about! 

 

???????x is the best. 

[~Luminiferous Ether~ 107]

I honestly only listen to Pony Music and old Doctor Horrible songs now, so I'm not really in the scene.

 

I reckon most people don't like it because a lot of it seems unordered and chaotic, and when people grew up with jazz and mozart

[Moog the Kvlt 1,460]

and we still have a volume down button. The music may be louder at a set volume level but that doesn't mean it can't be turned down.

 

Yeah, and turning down the damn volume definitely helps the person be able to enjoy it more.

/sarcasm

 

 

I see how they sound different, I'm just confused as to the technical difference between them. 

 

From Wikipedia:

 

Unlike traditional dubstep production styles, which emphasise sub-bass content, brostep accentuates the middle register and features "robotic fluctuations and metal-esque aggression".

 

There's the difference for you.

[LMW-YBC 102]

I like Dubstep. It's a beautiful genre that uses bass in a clever way, putting emphasis on it and the song as a whole can be listened to easily. Take this for example..

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9kwAavRff_M

 

Now isn't that a beautiful song? But people misinterpret Dubstep as "Brostep", a terrible excuse of a name to try and link it to Dubstep. This is obviously going to ruin Dubstep because, well, it isn't Dubstep.

 

Ever since Skrillex came into the EDM scene, Brostep has been overshadowing actual Dubstep, and why do most people hate this Brostep? Because it's too hardcore and feels like a mindf*ck when the "drop" comes in. It's just too difficult to listen to casually, which is what most people do. The worst example of Brostep has to be "Scary Monsters and Bad Sprites"; simply atrocious song that literally sounds like a transformer having a seizure. And because this is a very, very popular song, it's setting a bad example of the genre to many people.

 

Example of a Brostep song

That's not Brostep; it's Moombahcore. Edited May 26, 2013 by LMW-YBC

[Soundgarden 2,758]

I like Dubstep. It's a beautiful genre that uses bass in a clever way and can be listened to easily. Take this for example..

 

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=9kwAavRff_M&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D9kwAavRff_M

 

Now isn't that a beautiful song? But people misinterpret Dubstep as "Brostep", a terrible excuse of a name to try and link it to Dubstep. This is obviously going to ruin Dubstep because, well, it isn't Dubstep.

 

Ever since Skrillex came into the EDM scene, Brostep has been overshadowing actual Dubstep, and why do most people hate this Brostep? Because it's too hardcore and feels like a mindf*ck when the "drop" comes in. It's just too difficult to listen to casually, which is what most people do. The worst example of Brostep has to be "Scary Monsters and Bad Sprites"; simply atrocious song that literally sounds like a transformer having a seizure. And because this is a very, very popular song, it's setting a bad example of the genre to many people.

 

That's not Brostep; it's Moombahcore.

 

Woops, a mistake there . I'll edit my post with a Brostep song. I always seem to get those genres mixed up for some reason 

 

I agree with the rest of your post though

[Milk Wave 454]

Well since this would be talking about dubstep/brostep, I have some problem with what genre this song is.

I don't think its both of those genres, so ima need some help.

 

Also, you may need to watch this on youtube for private issues.