Does anyone hate stories filled with misanthropy?

[Bendy 1,821]

Does anyone hate fan fictions filled with misanthropy?

 

As in stories where we meet the MLP FIM Ponies and the first thing we do in is invade and kill everypony or do something else evil?

 

I dislike them, because it justs makes us Humans out to be monsters. And so does the long Darth Vader ​red lightsaber bar that is the dislike bar on the fan fiction on Fimfiction.

Edited August 23, 2013 by Rush

[Standard User 2,127]

Anyone who hates an entire genre or trope of stories, in my opinion, doesn't understand story telling. I've seen many stories where humans are the bad guys that are actually not so bad. Sure, they don't appeal to me, but they are well written and tell a good story, so why should I rag on it? 

 

That is to say, they definitely aren't my favorite types of stories. I prefer stories that only have one non-brony arrive in Equestria, as then it feels like I'm discovering MLP all over again along with the protagonist.

Thought for the day: don't hate on a certain type of story. Give everything a try! Broaden your horizons. Or...y'know, something inspirational like that.

[Cantankerous 106]

Haven't read any stories I'd call misanthropic. Plenty of them talk about how humanity is a more violent species than ponies, but that hardly qualifies. 

 

If you want stories that avoid that sort of thing, there's always Arrow 18, Project Sunflower, and a number of other HiE fics I can think of. 

Edited August 23, 2013 by ByTheTides

[Shanks 10,816]

I don't like stories that flat out say "humans are evil, ponies are good the end" both because it is not true and is very likely that if Equestria exists the version we see in the show is an idealized version of it. People often forget that the ponies are very human like, that is why so many people have such a strong bond with the ponies some even to the point where they have romantic and sexual attractions to one or more of them. Yes it is likely that if humans found Equestria there would be violence but human beings are not a hive mind so it is likely that there may be humans who are sympathetic to the ponies and may object to any cruel treatment of them. And it is also likely as the ponies have shown us in Bridle Gossip that the ponies themselves might be afraid of humans even if they are not hostile.

[Scootalove 10,689]

Actually, no I don't hate it. They aren't my favorite type of stories but, I don't see the humans as the bad guys here since even though humans aren't perfect they wouldn't invade and do evil things to ponies.

[hawkflame 3,310]

I am bothered by this because it shows a lack of faith in humanity. I mean if you say that humans suck- well you're a human, are you saying that you suck? Ponies on the whole may be less violent with exceptions, but people are generally better than some of these writers give us credit for.

[Bendy 1,821]

Anyone who hates an entire genre or trope of stories, in my opinion, doesn't understand story telling. I've seen many stories where humans are the bad guys that are actually not so bad. Sure, they don't appeal to me, but they are well written and tell a good story, so why should I rag on it? 

 

That is to say, they definitely aren't my favorite types of stories. I prefer stories that only have one non-brony arrive in Equestria, as then it feels like I'm discovering MLP all over again along with the protagonist.

 

Thought for the day: don't hate on a certain type of story. Give everything a try! Broaden your horizons. Or...y'know, something inspirational like that.

 

Well, I have read some truly messed up stories.

 

The Conversion Bureau genre, where Ponies take sadist enjoyment by killing all Humans down to the last child. Because Humans are "evil" and need to converted or die.  

 

Some of Anti Conversion Bureau stories I don't like either, where us Humans destroy the Ponies for trying to kill us all. Some of the only stories I Iike of this type are The Other Side of the Spectrum and Not Alone.

Edited August 23, 2013 by Rush

[Standard User 2,127]

Well, I have read some truly messed up stories.

 

The Conversion Bureau genre , where Ponies take sadist enjoyment by killing all Humans. Because Humans are "evil" and need to converted or die.  

 

Some of Anti Conversion Bureau stories, I don't like either, where us Humans destroy the Ponies for trying to kill us all.Some of the only stories Iike type are The Other Side of the Spectrum and Not Alone.

 

And, while that might have sullied your opinion of the trope, that doesn't mean that every story in said trope is terrible. And anyway, that would be the most accurate portrayal of what would happen if many humans suddenly found Equestria.

[They call me Loyalty 1,948]

I think humanity is kind of broken in many aspects.
Do I really consider myself a human being? Not at all, even if my body is human. But lets not go deeper in that regard, since most people wouldn't be able to understand what I'm talking about. And not only because my english is bad.


Anyways, that would be the most probable outcome if humans happen to find Equestria, since by instinct, humanity tend to be selfish by nature regarding their own survival, as well as many other species are. Most of them simply lack the concept of self-sacrifice.

And the "state of consciousness" that was meant to make humanity "better" in some regard, almost always turned them into something worse, since knowledge is power.
But against all odds, they still remain ignorants, thinking that by sacrificing other lives, they will be able to save themselves. In fact that is the first step to kill that little bit of "conscience" they still have. And since It just takes some little corruption to turn humans into the instinctive beings they are, they might be already doomed in a world like this.

So I fear humanity will end up suffering from the involution that they threw upon themselves, going backward to the state close where they begun long time ago. Since that was the reason why they were created into first place. They were meant to fail.


My faith in humanity is so thin at this point, eventhough I know wonderful persons, but they're like me. While by their bodies they could probably be considered humans, their consciences are from far away. So they aren't humans at all.

PS: I don't really like that kind of fanfictions.

Apologies for my english, it isn't my first language.

Edited August 23, 2013 by They call me Loyalty

[aoEAF2FBvC0MIo2Q 3,673]

I am bothered by this because it shows a lack of faith in humanity.

Let me remind you what the word "faith" means:

 

A feeling, conviction, or belief that something is true or real, assent that is not contingent upon reason or justification.

Or

A trust or confidence in the intentions or abilities of a person, object, or ideal.

 

These two definition fit the context. For some people, there is no justification or reasonable way to tell oneself that humankind can be trusted to seek the more benevolent path. This view is more often than not contingent on a set of facts rather than an idea. These people tend to see blind loyalty to an ideal--especially when the facts point to something else entirely--as dangerous.

 

But don't get the wrong idea; misanthropy isn't something I agree 100% with myself but because I've been there, I can sympathize with those who are. Right now I myself am at the fence, just barely oscillating around the boundary between the two categories.

 

I mean if you say that humans suck- well you're a human, are you saying that you suck?

Absolutely. Exactly what I thought back in the day.

 

Ponies on the whole may be less violent with exceptions, but people are generally better than some of these writers give us credit for.

Well, I wouldn't know what was written to really comment on anything.

Let me guess, the humans just hurt or kill ponies for sport or want to take over Equestria for no other reason than being pricks?

[Jamesblorg39welsh 125]

People that write them are talented but I HATE THEM SO MUCH (prepare for caps lock to make my point 9 year old style HOW THE BUCK KILLS PONYS OHMYGOD REALLY WHO DOES LIKE REALLY OHMYGOD

[Zygen 6,066]

Never read any of these type of fanfics, so I have no opinions on the actual story type other then conceptual.

 

I do think that saying ponies are perfect is a long stretch, I mean the ponies mess up plenty in the show, and learn from it, chaos happens at times.

 

Evil still exists in equestria, heck one of the princesses even turns evil.

 

So to say all ponies are good isn't realistic.

 

Now are there lots of nice ponies? Yes, but with good comes bad.

 

Humans do have bad aswell, but we have good, I mean us bronies are good humans I think for the most part.

 

I don't think humans are monsters, it's just some do evil things, and some are good. There is never going to be a perfect world made of humans really.

 

I don't think that means we should think of humans as monsters, because I've met plenty of really nice people, just as I've met jerks.

 

And I'm sure it's the same in equestria, we're just focused on the lives of the mane 6 and don't see the whole picture.

[Anneal 2,197]

I really have no opinion on this, considering I don't like HiE fanfics myself, therefore I barely read them. It just seems like acting like humans are great is feels like egotism and self-importance, yet acting like humans are monsters is too pessimistic. And like I said, I don't like HiEs, but I prefer it if humans just acted like a real human, not an antagonist nor a protagonist. 

Edited August 24, 2013 by Cartophile

[hawkflame 3,310]

Let me remind you what the word "faith" means:

 

A feeling, conviction, or belief that something is true or real, assent that is not contingent upon reason or justification.

Or

A trust or confidence in the intentions or abilities of a person, object, or ideal.

 

These two definition fit the context. For some people, there is no justification or reasonable way to tell oneself that humankind can be trusted to seek the more benevolent path. This view is more often than not contingent on a set of facts rather than an idea. These people tend to see blind loyalty to an ideal--especially when the facts point to something else entirely--as dangerous.

 

The "facts" you're looking at are selectively chosen from a glass half empty perspective though. Why ignore the progress we've made as a species?

 

Slavery was once acceptable. Women had few if any rights. Homosexuality used to be considered evil, now the majority of the country is in favor of gay marriage, according to polls.

 

This is not out of blind loyalty to an idea, but out of an objective look at the path we've taken over the course of history. Is there still war? Do people still kill each other for stupid reasons? Of course, and fixing that will take a long, long time. But to say that *no* progress has been made speaks more towards the individual and his experiences rather than an objective look at relatively recent history.

[MelancholicMemory 2,025]

The fact of the matter is that whenever people come across a less technologically advanced civilization, they destroy it. Most of the time, historically, this is the case. Arabians and Europeans bullied Africans. Europeans destroyed basically all Native American civilizations. This goes back to ancient times. The reasons why these stories exist is because that is what humans actually do. We also tend to be aggressive towards things we don't understand, so the reaction is even more to be expected.

 

Now for the stories themselves, some are good and some are bad, but the premise is sound.

[~Silver Essence~ 2,625]

From what I've seen, I could say yes.

 

However, just know we all have our ways of telling the story, and while we are usually shown evil, I guess it all depends if the story and concept goes well.

[Paleopony 703]

I don't like stories that are just like, "Humans are evil and ponies are good, let's wipe out all of humanity!" It would make more sense if there were wars between them because of a few disagreements but not just a genocide of a whole species.

[EpicEnergy 23,222]

I just view such stories as entertainment, I don't take it seriously.