FLUTTERBROTHER REVEALED (episode clip)

[Roughshod 719]

The only possible scenarios in which they reveal that Fluttershy has a brother that would be even halfway tolerable would be if she was estranged from him, or if she didn't know she had a brother (e.g. long lost half brother).

That's a development we might have seen a few years ago but now that most of the show's original writing staff and directors have moved on or switched to working on the film I wouldn't count on that kind of awareness and commitment to storytelling.

 

Most of what I've seen this season that's related to the established universe is only done for a quick joke, fan service or occasional plot device. There's no overarching direction or lore anymore. 'Explore Equestria'? What have we explored? The closest thing we got to that was a Hearths Warming Eve story. It hardly even feels like friendship is still the main message sometimes.

Edited June 3, 2016 by Roughshod

[Steve Piranha 29,429]

Anyone else considering not watching this episode?

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I'M NOT GOING TO MISS THIS ONE 

 

It would appear that 'disappointing the fans' is going to be a theme for this season. Let me explain what I mean through illustration.

 

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You see, this picture perfectly encapsulates everything that is wrong with Zephyr Breeze in his essence.

 

Zephyr himself represents the hollow, trite and leeching idiocy that is this episode's concept. He offers next to nothing as a moocher both off his parents and the success of this show and is just a contrived plot device for the sake of reiterating Fluttershy's overused 'assertiveness' for her 'character development'. He stands at the doorstep to his father's shed like a threshold for him to march forward from the cloistered world of the theoretical into the well illuminated stage of the canonical. A rainbow flowing past is an optic meant to deceive you into thinking things will be alright. But they won't.

 

Fluttershy herself is a representation of the fans of MLP. She is surprised, confused and generally not pleased in what Zephyr is doing and how he is impacting the MLP universe. Yet she stands aside, unable to do anything at this particular moment but look on at his narcissistic pillaging of his parents home and MLP's established world for his own purposes. The broken glass containers at her hooves represent the shattered hopes of fans who had hoped for so much more.

 

Lastly Zephyr and Fluttershy's parents represent the production and writing staff of MLP. Distraught at what they have made and disappointed in the damage he is already causing. Their faces are marked with shame and consternation.

With the high amounts of overreactions we are giving to the show, it wouldn't surprise me  . They'd did it (probably ) once with the yaks  . We may think we know what we want, but the writers know what we NEED, even if we don't want it or become disappointed   

[Roughshod 719]

We may think we know what we want, but the writers know what we NEED, even if we don't want it or become disappointed

 

So as fans of the show what we need is to be disappointed and watch episodes we don't want? That makes no sense at all. I understand not wanting to pander to the fans so as to maintain integrity but this season has been disappointing fans by abandoning the series' integrity in the first place.

 

Have you seen the viewership ratings for this season? They've gotten progressively worse and are a far cry from earlier seasons. Now, maybe that due to other factors such as alternative viewing methods and market competition. Its also fairly common for most televison shows to decline after about four seasons. But even so you can't honestly say that less success in attracting attention to their product is proof that the writers are doing what they need to. What they need to do is a better fucking job.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic_episodes

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

The clip seems typical and stuffs.

 

And for people saying Fluttershy's brother comes out of nowhere, it's not like we knew about any of Fluttershy's family in the first place. I mean, with Shininor Armor, I understood the complaints there because we at least knew the bare basics of Twilight's family. Here, Fluttershy could have any family member the writers feel because her family was never established. What, did you expect Flutershy didn't have a family because we're only now hearing about it?

[Stardust* 3,302]

This is why having these tiny clips is just so frustrating. 

 

Everypony jumps to conclusions either good or bad, or very bad. 

 

I just don't understand how we can interpret SO much from a 30 second clip. Just watch the episode and give it a chance, after that, then you can have a good idea of what happened. 

[Megas 27,743]

The clip seems typical and stuffs.

 

And for people saying Fluttershy's brother comes out of nowhere, it's not like we knew about any of Fluttershy's family in the first place. I mean, with Shininor Armor, I understood the complaints there because we at least knew the bare basics of Twilight's family. Here, Fluttershy could have any family member the writers feel because her family was never established. What, did you expect Flutershy didn't have a family because we're only now hearing about it?

Yeah, not to mention Shining Armor seems like a really important figure both to Equestria and in Twilight's life. On the other hand not only are we just now seeing Fluttershy's family, you can argue that her brother could be a subject that she doesn't like to talk about much

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

 

 

This is why having these tiny clips is just so frustrating.    Everypony jumps to conclusions either good or bad, or very bad. 

 

 Panic is magic    Youtube comment, EQD, and this forum, they are all panic (include me) . On the bright side, if this ep somehow can manage to exceed everyone's expectations, this will be a best episode ever   but, who am i kidding, Mr.Rapp is the writer of this episode, it's impossible  People will dislike this ep just as much as Newbie Dash   They will scream how the staff ruin every single mane character of the show and the show as a whole 

 

I hope everything i said above is not a fact, just a poor joke

[Roughshod 719]

I just don't understand how we can interpret SO much from a 30 second clip. Just watch the episode and give it a chance, after that, then you can have a good idea of what happened.

Well it does take some intuition and attention to details, not to mention a knack for critique and verbal creativity.

 

In my case the interpretation I presented really stems from the concepts behind this episode and the basic plot. I gained that information from the episode synopsis and clip which have established the conflict and introduced the primary characters as well as hinted at their dynamic and one of the settings. How it's actually executed doesn't detract from my examination of the themes in my analysis. I'm talking about how things are generally being perceived and what the mood is right now(plus some sarcasm) in my view. I'm not actually predicting how the episode will be received after it's aired; that's still unknown and any guess is conjectural.

 

On the other hand not only are we just now seeing Fluttershy's family, you can argue that her brother could be a subject that she doesn't like to talk about much.

 

I can't imagine why that would be.

 

A lot of people are frustrated by this which I can understand. It took 128 episodes to get any indication Fluttershy even had a family. I don't see what possible excuse they could have for not showing them before or even acknowledging their existence once besides a lack of caring. Granted we haven't seen much of many of the Mane 6's family but Fluttershy's was totally obscure. No visits. No letters or photographs, not even a casual mention?

 

And now we find out her family seems to lead quite a normal life by most pony standards and have a stable relationship with her. So you can't even use a dramatic reason for not showing them before like they were estranged or had very unusual living conditions. It's so unbelievably contrived in the context of the universe.

Edited June 3, 2016 by Roughshod

[Megas 27,743]

I can't imagine why that would be.

 

A lot of people are frustrated by this which I can understand. It took 128 episodes to get any indication Fluttershy even had a family. I don't see what possible excuse they could have for not showing them before or even acknowledging their existence once besides a lack of caring. Granted we haven't seen much of many of the Mane 6's family but Fluttershy's was totally obscure. No visits. No letters or photographs, not even a casual mention?

 

And now we find out her family seems to lead quite a normal life by most pony standards and have a stable relationship with her. So you can't even use a dramatic reason for not showing them before like they were estranged or had very unusual living conditions. It's so unbelievably contrived in the context of the universe.

This isn't like Maud or Shining Armor where Twilight and Pinkie play up about how they're the greatest ponies ever(and in SA's case, he's important to Equestria) except they were never anywhere to be seen prior, especially in Maud's case where she wasn't with the Pie's at all in their initial debut in "The Cutie Mark Chronicles". And this isn't like AJ's parents where they've had so many opportunities to address their non presence but never did. They've just never needed a reason to ever bring them up at all before in the past

[Roughshod 719]

This isn't like Maud or Shining Armor where Twilight and Pinkie play up about how they're the greatest ponies ever(and in SA's case, he's important to Equestria) except they were never anywhere to be seen prior, especially in Maud's case where she wasn't with the Pie's at all in their initial debut in "The Cutie Mark Chronicles"

Both were badly forced character introductions, one even mandating a retconned appearance. And the deal with AJ's parents and the fact that the writers aren't willing to even address it strikes me as somewhat cowardly. Heaven forbid a mature concept like death ever be addressed. It's not like any kid has ever had to lose a parent before.

 

But just because there is a history of this doesn't make it any better. This show is based on the relationships of the Mane 6 with each other and this often includes their families. Fluttershy has been neglected until now in this area and it seems like only after enough time has passed and enough ideas have been spent that she's finally getting some backstory.

 

She's a main character. That alone should be reason enough to build upon her identity in this way.

[CastletonSnob 3,078]

Wanna bet Flutterbrother will be a Small Name, Big Ego?

[MovieLord101 140]

Why!? You decide to skip episode just because of a promo or a synopsis? Even a good promo turned out  to be a disappointed anyway. 

Nice interpretation. Fandom panic level will increase by 1 just by this interpretation alone. 

Unfortunately, that's also the logic Lilly Peet loves to use lately. I don't care if she acts out because her fans are bugging her over certain episodes, not wanting to even DISCUSS certain episodes JUST BECAUSE STARLIGHT IN THEM is unfair to the rest of the community. Yes, she sucked as a villain, but she's turning out to be a lot better of a character as a good guy! Not giving episodes a chance over even the most minor of crap is petty and thickheaded, which is why I rag on Lilly Peet occasionally.

 

Same goes for FutterBro here. For all we know this episode might be just fine. But we won't know until we WATCH IT, don't we? Just give it a chance; that's all I ask.

So as fans of the show what we need is to be disappointed and watch episodes we don't want? That makes no sense at all. I understand not wanting to pander to the fans so as to maintain integrity but this season has been disappointing fans by abandoning the series' integrity in the first place.

 

Have you seen the viewership ratings for this season? They've gotten progressively worse and are a far cry from earlier seasons. Now, maybe that due to other factors such as alternative viewing methods and market competition. Its also fairly common for most televison shows to decline after about four seasons. But even so you can't honestly say that less success in attracting attention to their product is proof that the writers are doing what they need to. What they need to do is a better fucking job.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic_episodes

Forget the damn rattings! To quote Doug Walker: I'm not asking the chart, I'm asking YOU!

[Wind Chaser 4,768]

Well, finally we get to see Fluttershy's family, and it justifies everything we've been saying about why we should be seeing more of the families in this show. There are many more episode and character opportunities in them that the show could grab, and Heaven knows they need it considering that the Mane 6 have been recursed into what is effectively their early-season roles in most other episodes this season, with the main exceptions being the Starlight Glimmer episodes. This is an episode I'm looking forward to not for Fluttershy, but for the opportunities afforded to it by its supporting cast.

 

From what was seen in the clip, the one trap I hope this episode doesn't fall into is having the brother's actions early on in the episode kill audience sympathies for him before the resolution. I don't want to see this episode making him the bad guy considering the relevance of its premise and who this character pretty much represents because of it. This is one of the more delicate issues MLP has taken on in the past couple of seasons, and stereotypical, one-note bad decisions made by the characters can easily kill any momentum the episode gains off of its premise.

 

Also, I want to cut that lazy hipster hairdo off his head.

[Will Guide 21,362]

Forget the damn rattings! To quote Doug Walker: I'm not asking the chart, I'm asking YOU!

 

My thoughts exactly! I guess we'll see what I think of Flutterbro tommorow.

[Allen 1,387]

I would think that Fluttershy's brother and her parents in this preview clip, so that's familiar not kind of weird.

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

 

 

Not giving episodes a chance over even the most minor of crap is petty and thickheaded, which is why I rag on Lilly Peet occasionally.

Her only wish is seeing Starlight gets her head slam in the door HARD   This is a bad side of Analytic community that i want to stay away. Some analysist that i respect are Silver Quill, StupidPrivate913 and Nuke87654 in this forum   They are fair, balance and calm, unlike some youtubers just rant and rant over some not-really-bad-episode-at-all and didnt point out some positive that said episode ACTUALLY HAVE. I just unsubscribe Voice of Reason after his rant over Do Princess Dream of Magic Sheep, downright annoying.

 

 

  Same goes for FutterBro here. For all we know this episode might be just fine. But we won't know until we WATCH IT, don't we? Just give it a chance; that's all I ask.

Maybe or maybe not  I always give episodes a chance, but.... let me panic a little bit please  becuz this is a episode that I waited for so long and David Rapp wrote this episode   why not Cindy Morrow or Dave Posky goddamn it. Im scared 

[StitchandMLPlover 930]

When I first saw this trailer I thought to myself "Well they live in clouds dale and they are all pegasus ponies, interesting" The father is cute. I guess most of Fluttershy's color comes from her mom. 

[Justin_Case001 4,902]

Anyone else considering not watching this episode?

Aww, c'mon, we have to watch it.  We have to.  Just take some dramamine about a half hour beforehoof.  It'll be okay.

 

But no, it won't.

 

[Steve Piranha 29,429]

So as fans of the show what we need is to be disappointed and watch episodes we don't want? That makes no sense at all. I understand not wanting to pander to the fans so as to maintain integrity but this season has been disappointing fans by abandoning the series' integrity in the first place.

 

Have you seen the viewership ratings for this season? They've gotten progressively worse and are a far cry from earlier seasons. Now, maybe that due to other factors such as alternative viewing methods and market competition. Its also fairly common for most televison shows to decline after about four seasons. But even so you can't honestly say that less success in attracting attention to their product is proof that the writers are doing what they need to. What they need to do is a better fucking job.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic_episodes

Take for example this. The videogame industry want more Call of Duty and they get more Call of Duty, but you know what kind of FPS it NEEDS? I'll put it like some mexican reviewers did in their latest video: DOOM BITCHES 

[Wind Chaser 4,768]

Already a polarizing response. This fandom sometimes doesn't cease in amazing me.

 

I've been looking forward to this episode since the premise was unveiled. This looks like one of those episodes they're either going to get very right or screw up horribly. Good or bad, I'm still looking forward to the discussion that comes after it. I'd love to praise what the episode got right if it's good or rip it apart and say what should've been done better if it's bad. It's much better than many of the safe, pedestrian episodes with standard plots that we got this season which offered very few solid discussion points, with little in the way of character development and/or worldbuilding. I'd rather the show take on something bigger for a change.

[Keiyara 22]

He looks... nothing like I expected...

[Dynamo Pad 11,391]

After watching the preview, I'm really looking forward to the new episode. It's great finally seeing what Fluttershy's brother looks like and it's also great seeing her parents as well. I can't wait to see how this episode turns out. 

[AmberDust 1,118]

Honestly?  I can't wait for the beta moocher of a brother to meet the god of chaos, since Discord and Fluttershy are a item.  Also, Fluttershy having to relearn to be assertive in any episode featuring her is getting to be an old schtick.

YES, THANK YOU. Maybe instead we'll get the other side of that lesson, where somebody learns not to be a mooch.

As soon as it was announced (a year ago?) that Fluttershy would have a brother, the first thing I thought was how he would interact with Discord. I honestly didn't expect him to be a hippie mooch...maybe he'll end up moving in with TreeHugger by the episode's end?

 

On that note, what were all you guys expecting him to be like? I actually didn't even think about her parents, so I can't say they broke any expectations, but I thought Flutterbro would be a bit more...brotherly? Like, encouraging and friendly and such. Maybe a little overprotective. Although I also expected him to be older, for some reason. I guess we know how Fluttershy learnt to care for small, demanding creatures now.

Edited June 4, 2016 by AmberDust