Flamepaw17 3 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 (edited) I know she makes a cameo, but why wasn't she involved in the story? I thought she was part of the main cast. Why didn't she join the mane 6 on their journey like in the show? So curious about this... Edited November 13, 2017 by Flamepaw17 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Solar Magus 471 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 Well Starlight Glimmer is my favorite character, but unfortunately while she is becoming a more influenchal character she's not one of the mane 6 . I would have loved to see more of her in the film, but alas it did not happen. Another reason could be is that movies function a little differently to series and having too many main characters in a film can be confusing for viewers, expecially for people that haven't seen the series. 6 Celestia does not look happy about this. I wonder what's on her mind ........ (check my 'about me' for more ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aBowlofFruit 59 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, General Solar Magus said: Well Starlight Glimmer is my favorite character, but unfortunately while she is becoming a more influenchal character she's not one of the mane 6 . I would have loved to see more of her in the film, but alas it did not happen. Another reason could be is that movies function a little differently to series and having too many main characters in a film can be confusing for viewers, expecially for people that haven't seen the series. I totally agree with this, but (correct me if I'm wrong) my belief for starlight not being in the movie because the production started before her redemption. At least when they started movie production (in 2015), Starlight didn't have as big of a role as she does now 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Solar Magus 471 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 29 minutes ago, aBowlofFruit said: I totally agree with this, but (correct me if I'm wrong) my belief for starlight not being in the movie because the production started before her redemption. At least when they started movie production (in 2015), Starlight didn't have as big of a role as she does now That's a good point XD. I wouldn't have picked up on that. 1 Celestia does not look happy about this. I wonder what's on her mind ........ (check my 'about me' for more ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babyyoshi309 1,829 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 This is why she was not in the movie: 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hierok 11,831 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 The writting began before her redemption or first appearance. 3 If I don't understand something or Interpret it wrong, I'm dutch. Sometimes I gamble for meanings of the words. And sometimes I write the wrong words, like week and weak for example. Sorry for it already. Discord, Twilight, Sunset, Fluttershy, Starlight, Rarity, Luna, Celestia, Big MCintosh, Cadence, Shining, Minuette, Lyra, Rara, Sweetie Belle, Cheerilee, Derpy, Spike. !Feel Free To Talk And Walk Where Ever You Like On This Forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Them's Seeing Ponies 282 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 (edited) I also wonder if this was impacted by creative decisions as well. Searching through the movie's art book, there are character sheets dated from early 2016, around the time season 6 and 7 were in production. While I doubt the crew were aware of the show's developments with Starlight at the time, it isn't impossible that they were (particularly with season 6 second-in-creative-command Mike Vogel joining the movie as a writer), therefore including Starlight in the final script (written around the middle of 2016, from what I can garner) wouldn't have been impossible. So why not then? The movie was focused on the Mane 6 and Spike being a unit. The focal point of the movie is clearly set on the comradery and friendship between the Mane 6. Including Starlight (basically a back-and-forth seventh main cast member) in the mix would have confused the movie's themes (why isn't Starlight heading out with the six? Is she their 'friend' then?). Adding Starlight would have also muddied the pacing. The movie already suffered a little from stretching too little time over a large number of new/returning characters. Adding Starlight would stretch the runtime even thinner for scenes introducing her, and related to the above, the writers would be essentially forced to add scenes of her being proactive in Canterlot during the Mane Six's adventure to justify introducing her, which would have taken runtime from the Mane Six's journey and disrupted the flow of said quest, breaking the intended tone of the group's increasing isolation from Equestria (particularly on Twilight's part). It wouldn't have been as effective. Including Starlight would have made the movie's place on the FiM timeline less ambiguous. Technically, this would give the movie a clearer standing in the show's continuity as being set after Starlight's redemption (counteracting all the arguments that the movie is set during or before season 5), but it also makes the 'why aren't the dragons/changelings/Pillars contributing to the film?' issue more inexcusable as the movie would have written away most of the benefit of the doubt ambiguity it generated by not including Starlight as a character in the script and pretty much outright stating that it was set after season 5 (and likely 'No Second Prances' additionally), therefore clarifying the above issue as a genuine plot hole and complaint. Edited November 13, 2017 by Them's Seeing Ponies 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbaTross 1,586 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Flamepaw17 said: I know she makes a cameo, but why wasn't she involved in the story? I thought she was part of the main cast. Why didn't she join the mane 6 on their journey like in the show? So curious about this... This thread belongs in the board for the 2017 movie. I will notify the mods for this section immediately (as I alas, do not have mod privileges for this section). Anyways, as aBowlofFruit said, to my understanding the main reason Starlight isn't in the movie is that it was in production since season 5. Starlight and Trixie's brief cameos were added in to avoid backlash over them not being acknowledged at all, but most of the movie was most likely finished by that point so it wasn't possible to add them into the main plot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganondox 899 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 She WAS in the movie, she just had a cameo rather than a full part. The reasoning is pretty clear, most of the script was written before she was redeemed so it would have taken too much effort to overhaul it just to work her into it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cedar 1,408 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 Two reasons: 1. The decision to include Starlight Glimmer as a recurring character in the series was only made as they started scripting season 6. By then the movie's voicing had been recorded and so the script was pretty much set. 2. According to at least one writer, Starlight Glimmer wasn't supposed to be a recurring character in the series in the first place. It was supposed to be Sunset Shimmer. The third Equestria Girls movie was originally slated to be the last, at which point Sunset was to return to Equestria, but the powers that be at Hasbro decided Equestria Girls as a spinoff was doing well enough that they did a fourth movie and are now doing a series. 2 Roleplaying OC: Red Cedar - Cast Character: Applejack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambdadelta 1,462 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 They could just say this movie event occurs between S4 and S5 and not adding Starlight at all, there will be no problem in the first place. Silly writers, silly Hasbro. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Qiviut 22,431 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 (edited) @Them's Seeing Ponies There's another reason to add, and (to echo many others here), it's the most sound. Animation takes a long time to make. It takes approximately a year to create only one FIM episode in Flash, but Toon Boom Harmony's animation is more expressive, more detailed, and has a lot more puppet frames. The longer runtime will likely add more time to developing the animation, too. When the animation began, the script had likely long been locked. When the film was announced, season five was still under production. They wouldn't be able to fit SG into even tertiary status, because it was under production for so long, and the script was being both developed and written before her reformation was finally set. (I won't be shocked if MLP:TM's animation alone took at least 18 months to make.) 39 minutes ago, Red Cedar said: 2. According to at least one writer, Starlight Glimmer wasn't supposed to be a recurring character in the series in the first place. It was supposed to be Sunset Shimmer. The third Equestria Girls movie was originally slated to be the last, at which point Sunset was to return to Equestria, but the powers that be at Hasbro decided Equestria Girls as a spinoff was doing well enough that they did a fourth movie an Hasbro's decision to leave Sunset in the EQG world might be for the better here. If Sunset is included in the main series, then the audience is required to watch EQG. The setting itself is an acquired taste for being clichèd and sterile, but the writing decisions have very loud question marks. Starlight being a mane character instead erases those question marks. Edited November 13, 2017 by Dark Qiviut 4 "Talent is a pursued interest." — Bob Ross Pro-Brony articles: 1/2/3/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambdadelta 1,462 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Babyyoshi309 said: This is why she was not in the movie. Good one. Starlight knew the movie could end in 20 minutes if she took them seriously. Those villains are so weak, they doesnt worth her time, so she takes her sweet time in the cage so the anti-fans will be happy, remember when she was captured by Pharynx so easily? She let it happen to see what happen next. Starlight got a bug queen to reformed, no time for weakling Storm Yeti. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade Fire 7,059 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 the reason she wasnt in the movie was cuz they wrote in back back the end of season 4. which is when it should have been canon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamepaw17 3 November 13, 2017 Author Share November 13, 2017 11 hours ago, Ganondox said: She WAS in the movie, she just had a cameo rather than a full part. The reasoning is pretty clear, most of the script was written before she was redeemed so it would have taken too much effort to overhaul it just to work her into it. I know she had a cameo, I mentioned that. My topic was about why she wasn't involved in the story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosetta Spring 21 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 (edited) They had to reanimate everything from scratch with a new animation tool the story was written before she was even a character. But I'm glade she only had a cameo she's been getting a lot of the spotlight in two parts recently so it was refreshing to see the mane 6 + Spike save the day again. @Red Cedar Good adding Sunset to FiM would be a really bad idea since her and Twilgiht are the same character Sunset's role is the teacher ti the humane 6 she's the leader the one with the plan..just like Twilight in FiM bringing her in would mean one of them would have to be OOC all the time or removed completely. Edited November 13, 2017 by Rosetta Spring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,852 November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 I am amused by some of the replies here. Some assume that Megs had no insight into where they wanted to take Glimmer. Some suggest that there was crazy lead time so a change wasn't possible. Both are not completely accurate. They were writing new scenes and jokes while the film had some scenes being animated, after Starlight's reformation. Meghan said this at the Hascon panel. She loved that unlike an episode of the show, shit was easy to update and change as they went on. It was a creative decision to keep her role to a cameo. They had enough shit to juggle. Characters aplenty! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Piranha 29,428 November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 On 11/13/2017 at 0:21 AM, Flamepaw17 said: I know she makes a cameo, but why wasn't she involved in the story? I thought she was part of the main cast. Why didn't she join the mane 6 on their journey like in the show? So curious about this... The script was being written since S4, AT LEAST, and they couldn't afford to adapt it with all the constant changes to the status quo the show had during development Sig by Discords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cahead2015 72 November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 It's been rumored that there are plans for a sequel, now it's that's true they better include her, and Sunset shimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBD 17,254 November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Too many characters, too little time. ♪ "I practice every day to find some clever lines to say, to make the meaning come through"♪ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavens-champion 1,905 November 16, 2017 Share November 16, 2017 On 11/13/2017 at 2:24 AM, Ganondox said: She WAS in the movie, she just had a cameo rather than a full part. The reasoning is pretty clear, most of the script was written before she was redeemed so it would have taken too much effort to overhaul it just to work her into it. Plus, we would have to wait another year or two for the movie movie to be finished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormBlaze 992 November 20, 2017 Share November 20, 2017 she was. watching Trixie's fireworks. Thsi is because the film was written back for Season 4/5. And it would be a pain in the arse to redo it all to add another main character - theres already too many and Fluttershy doenst even get many lines, so imagine with Starlight added. They added her into the Trixie shot last minute. 2 DeviantArt ~~~ YouTube ~~~ MLP Forum Store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARandomPyro 0 January 28, 2018 Share January 28, 2018 (edited) On 11/20/2017 at 4:59 AM, StormBlaze said: she was. watching Trixie's fireworks. Thsi is because the film was written back for Season 4/5. And it would be a pain in the arse to redo it all to add another main character - theres already too many and Fluttershy doenst even get many lines, so imagine with Starlight added. They added her into the Trixie shot last minute. Smh... OP already knows about the small cameo she made in the movie. OP even mentioned it in their thread description. You're not getting their point, what they meant by her not being in the movie is her not being relevant in the movie's story... Edited January 28, 2018 by ARandomPyro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormBlaze 992 January 28, 2018 Share January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, ARandomPyro said: Smh... OP already knows about the small cameo she made in the movie. OP even mentioned it in their thread description. You're not getting their point, what they meant by her not being in the movie is her not being relevant in the movie's story... Alright mr nit picky. Geez. She didnt even exist when writing and animating began ok? The production was so far behind tge main series that they stuck her in for a tiny cameo as a background pony. DeviantArt ~~~ YouTube ~~~ MLP Forum Store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarlightGGiantess5 0 March 1, 2018 Share March 1, 2018 Here's my answer. /) https://starlightggiantess5.deviantart.com/art/Where-Starlight-and-Trixie-were-in-the-MLP-Movie-718375375 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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