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23 minutes ago, ExplosionMare said:

Might as well remove the like button too while they’re at it. :scoots:

The only time I’ve seen a higher dislike count than a like count is when something is inherently wrong with the video or the person themselves. Most videos have a lot more likes than dislikes so the dislikes wouldn’t matter anyways.

I also do not buy the "protecting people's feelings" excuse at all. You are going to have a TERRIBLE time on the internet if you can't take downvotes on a video. Some like/dislike ratios are BS, but most highly downvoted videos are a result of people legitimately not liking the content or its host, and there's also always been the option to DISABLE THE RATINGS:yeahno:

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2 hours ago, Splashee said:

The reason for removal is the thing that got me the most: That spammers would dislike a video. Well, what if spammers like a video instead? Anyways, this is one of those moments in YouTube's history where they are just total fail. Just total fail

I do not believe that is the real justification. Considering that Youtube gives special favors to, broadly speaking, those from traditional media and large organizations, I am not convinced that they care much about Youtubers.

As one of the commenters said, "This isn't about protecting creators. This is about protecting corporations and media companies."

And another, "YouTube's main argument is illogical, a video getting a large amount of dislikes doesn't take away the creator's voice, it affects their credibility and shows how many people disagree with the creator. By hiding the dislike counter from the public, they will effectively silence those who oppose the creator.

Also, that other sites do not have a downvote button is a negative point.

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13 hours ago, Luna the Great of all the Russias said:

I do not believe that is the real justification.

I agree. I was just trying to respond to what the YouTube guy says in the video.

 

The reasoning he gave was not good enough to justify anything. Also, I haven't come across a single comment on that video that likes the idea. The worst thing that any large corporation can do is to enforce something against everybody's will, and say "You will get used to it". At least show some people that actually agrees with them? Any proof what so ever?

 

Is this YouTube's downfall? Wait until it gets known by everyone when the change is actually made. I wonder if YouTube's algorithm can protect us from the spam and misinformation?

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I agree that hiding the dislikes is bs but we all know it won't lead to YouTube's downfall. No other site could even hope to compete with YouTube at this point.

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I’m kinda surprised it took YouTube this long to do this. I think back to the time Netflix removed ratings because Amy Schumer bitched about them. If your content sucks, it’s not the viewers’ fault, it’s yours.

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10 hours ago, Yoshi89 said:

I’m kinda surprised it took YouTube this long to do this. I think back to the time Netflix removed ratings because Amy Schumer bitched about them. If your content sucks, it’s not the viewers’ fault, it’s yours.

Oh yeah, I remember that :mlp_icwudt:. Kinda the opposite with Dave Chapelle these days :oh_golly:

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Hiding the public view of dislikes solves nothing whatsoever. All it does is hide mass disapproval and eliminates a quick view of general concensus. This certainly will benefit terrible YouTubers (aka most of the top YouTubers) and corporations like Nintendo as now they won't have that surface level harsh criticism. These types of channels often have an ego so large that dislikes didn't matter anyways, but being able to see a mass consensus is still way better than nothing. YouTube is a company ran by idiots who have zero connection to people and what they want. So basically, YouTube is just another giant corporation. Nothing more. 

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Removing the dislike button in YouTube because of spammers is highly flawed, and would be a terrible decision.

Firstly, there are various ways to deal with spammers like IMPLEMENTING AN ALGORITHM that prevents a user from pressing a button too many times or preventing a user from spamming the like or dislike button on different videos in a timespan of X amount of seconds/minutes. YouTube has implemented complex algorithms numerous times before too, so it would make sense to do that instead of disabling the dislike button.

Secondly, spammers do more than spam the dislike button - they spam the comment section too, and maybe even the like button. If YouTube actually wanted to remove the dislike button for the reason of getting rid of spammers, it would be inconsistent for YouTube to deal with spammers who spam the dislike button and not spammers who spam the comment section or like button.

Thirdly, spammers who spam the dislike button are hardly an issue at all as there are often far more likes on a video than dislikes.

Overall, removing the dislike button because of spammers is likely a lie from YouTube. I would say the true reason YouTube wants to remove the dislike button is that they want more money, and the way to get that is to increase the amount of videos that are uploaded so that they can attain a higher viewership (and receive the money through ads), and the way to increase the amount of videos that are uploaded is to encourage YouTubers to upload more which would be to remove the dislike button so the YouTubers don't have to face negative reactions. That's just a guess, but I'm certain I'm close to the truth by saying that YouTube wants more money, and removing the dislike button equals more money.

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Its best to remove the dislike button. this way people will view the comments and know why it was disliked. the dislike button is very vague and judging a video because it was disliked is bad.. what If it was disliked because of homophobia? 

this way comments have power. 

I can see this as good.

if not people will make a much more better react video of the said video... 

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6 hours ago, Kujamih said:

Its best to remove the dislike button. this way people will view the comments and know why it was disliked. the dislike button is very vague and judging a video because it was disliked is bad.. what If it was disliked because of homophobia? 

this way comments have power. 

I can see this as good.

if not people will make a much more better react video of the said video... 

$20 says comments are not too far down the line, like how they already did it on videos they deemed "for kids".

You can buy comments, likes, and dislikes.

I fail to see how having 150k people all creatively crapping on you in their own ways is better than a "dislike".

Also: you can disable the comments. So if you can't see the dislikes, and there are no comments, how do you tell? What if it's a tutorial and it's terrible? What if it's supposed to be a satire that no one takes as satire?

And besides, the creator can STILL SEE THE DISLIKES so it ain't helping them at all.

 

YouTube needs an actual competitor. Alot get reasonably close but all miss quite a bit of features.

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On 2021-11-15 at 5:40 PM, TheGleaner said:

$20 says comments are not too far down the line, like how they already did it on videos they deemed "for kids".

You can buy comments, likes, and dislikes.

I fail to see how having 150k people all creatively crapping on you in their own ways is better than a "dislike".

Also: you can disable the comments. So if you can't see the dislikes, and there are no comments, how do you tell? What if it's a tutorial and it's terrible? What if it's supposed to be a satire that no one takes as satire?

And besides, the creator can STILL SEE THE DISLIKES so it ain't helping them at all.

 

YouTube needs an actual competitor. Alot get reasonably close but all miss quite a bit of features.

true..... it's really up to us is all I'm pointing out. and so what if the dislike is removed... more creative ways will surely pop out to dislike something . 

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On 2021-11-15 at 3:59 AM, Kujamih said:

this way people will view the comments and know why it was disliked

 

If you can find the comments nowadays. YouTube keeps making it harder to find comments on mobile devices.

 

Finding out if a video has misinformation or spam by simply watching it, is a good way to subconsciously take that information into your brain. This is why advertising works (and is used today).

 

 

YouTube can and will control the amount of dislikes/likes for a video behind the scenes anyways. So removing the counter is just a way for them to show power and laziness at the same time. And I think they will get away with it again *Goes to watch random Top 10 click baits instead of working*

Question is, should we thumb up a video when we like it? Now when we don't need to fight dislikes anymore? The whole rating a video seems pointless when it has nothing to compare to. YouTube will simply just move the top video of their choice to the top because it has no dislike indication anymore. I still haven't gotten used to it like they promised in their video that now has 150K dislikes to 14K likes.

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9 hours ago, Splashee said:

If you can find the comments nowadays. YouTube keeps making it harder to find comments on mobile devices.

 

Finding out if a video has misinformation or spam by simply watching it, is a good way to subconsciously take that information into your brain. This is why advertising works (and is used today).

 

 

YouTube can and will control the amount of dislikes/likes for a video behind the scenes anyways. So removing the counter is just a way for them to show power and laziness at the same time. And I think they will get away with it again *Goes to watch random Top 10 click baits instead of working*

Question is, should we thumb up a video when we like it? Now when we don't need to fight dislikes anymore? The whole rating a video seems pointless when it has nothing to compare to. YouTube will simply just move the top video of their choice to the top because it has no dislike indication anymore. I still haven't gotten used to it like they promised in their video that now has 150K dislikes to 14K likes.

hmmm ... I see ....... welp I barely even use the dislike and like button.... usually I just click it by accident. :laugh:

and if the video triggers me or get moved by it I comment....if it doesn't I just go to a react video and post it there.

to you guys it might be a shady move or just wrong.... but it's their money.... they can do whatever they want to do with it.

 

 

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