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Ok, before you read this, I would like to point out that I don't like the idea of linear time.

 

Here it is; I was sitting in class today, and I was wondering about time. Now we all know time slows down when you get near larger things, so time is relative. There are people that live in the past right now, there are people who live in the future. This might be as little as a millisecond or a whole minute... How is this possible you may ask? Well I give you my idea... We are all living on a plane of existence that passes through different time periods like an elevator that just keeps going up as the tower is built. The elevator can stop and go as needed, but it always needs to remain going up. Picture a person in that said elevator. Then picture a person about to be born. This person is basically hoping into the plane of existence (the elevator). When someone dies they exit the plane of existence (Or gets off the elevator) (If you haven't noticed the elevator is a metaphor)... Ok so we have this plane that is moving through time quickly. Again time is relative so we are all basically living in different periods of time. (Not time zones), we are all living life like we are talking to someone, but basically that persons conscious mind is already walked away, and what we're talking to is a projection of the plane of existence...

 

Yeah this probably sounds a little crazy, but whatever...

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So basically to tl;dr it...

 

Everything is perceived, but unproven. Therefore, it's likely that existence can occur outside of your activities. Ie you can be talking to person A, but person A is also possibly at home/at work/etc at the same time, just on a different plane of existence. Superposition.

 

Also this theory exists already, you aren't the first one, nor are you crazy.

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So basically to tl;dr it...

 

Everything is perceived, but unproven. Therefore, it's likely that existence can occur outside of your activities. Ie you can be talking to person A, but person A is also possibly at home/at work/etc at the same time, just on a different plane of existence. Superposition.

 

Also this theory exists already, you aren't the first one, nor are you crazy.

 

Well... then I was just showing my support of the idea... I guess... I was also thinking this theory exists, but I was too lazy to check...

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Star Trek did something like this if I'm not mistaken, it involved Worf getting mixed up in different planes of existence and being married to Diana Troy at one point.

 

But yeah, I had thought of time existence things like this, you're not crazy, but smart for thinking about it.

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Ok, before you read this, I would like to point out that I don't like the idea of linear time.

 

Here it is; I was sitting in class today, and I was wondering about time. Now we all know time slows down when you get near larger things, so time is relative. There are people that live in the past right now, there are people who live in the future. This might be as little as a millisecond or a whole minute... How is this possible you may ask? Well I give you my idea... We are all living on a plane of existence that passes through different time periods like an elevator that just keeps going up as the tower is built. The elevator can stop and go as needed, but it always needs to remain going up. Picture a person in that said elevator. Then picture a person about to be born. This person is basically hoping into the plane of existence (the elevator). When someone dies they exit the plane of existence (Or gets off the elevator) (If you haven't noticed the elevator is a metaphor)... Ok so we have this plane that is moving through time quickly. Again time is relative so we are all basically living in different periods of time. (Not time zones), we are all living life like we are talking to someone, but basically that persons conscious mind is already walked away, and what we're talking to is a projection of the plane of existence...

 

Yeah this probably sounds a little crazy, but whatever...

 

Trying to define the existence of time planes? The crazy thing is trying to do that, because it will make YOU go crazy. It's not crazy having the idea :) . Now, how to say something about your idea...er...give me a sec...okay, I got something! Truly speaking, while time is relative and we could be talking to a distant plane of existance, we don't actually know that. We COULD be talking to a plane of existance that is either in the past or the future. However, we could also be talking to the plane of time that is in the exact moment. Time is relative, but it isn't something that is especific or fixed enough to work on a certain way, that might lead us to believe that the plane of existance can never be of the present. That sound good? :huh: Edited by Arcanel
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Neon Genesis Evangelion explored this in their last 2 episodes, where Shinji is trying to figure out why supposedly "everybody hates him" and "what's the point of existence". All the other major characters in his mind explained to him that people appear as how they are perceived by him and if he changed his perception of things at a single second that all persona in a person would be changed in the future and he would know that person's new personality throughout this "new" existence. In other words, he views his other self like 10 minutes forward and asks him the same question. It's kind of confusing but it's actually really good.

 

Star Trek did something like this if I'm not mistaken, it involved Worf getting mixed up in different planes of existence and being married to Diana Troy at one point.

 

But yeah, I had thought of time existence things like this, you're not crazy, but smart for thinking about it.

 

Isn't that more of like parallel universes than a plane?

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Isn't that more of like parallel universes than a plane?

 

And there's also the Mirrored Universe, I forgot to mention that too. When it comes to Trek, I'm more specialized in the Next Generation.
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And there's also the Mirrored Universe, I forgot to mention that too. When it comes to Trek, I'm more specialized in the Next Generation.

 

I like the idea of a Mirrored Universe, but Trek kind of f***** it up when they made the "evil" Spock turn good at the end when "good" Kirk tries to get him to turn against the "evil" Federation. Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of their concept of a mirror universe? lol

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I like the idea of a Mirrored Universe, but Trek kind of f***** it up when they made the "evil" Spock turn good at the end when "good" Kirk tries to get him to turn against the "evil" Federation. Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of their concept of a mirror universe? lol

 

I haven't seen that episode but Spock uses logic in all of his decision making. Kirk probably used logic to make bad Spock see logic to help good Kirk.
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I haven't seen that episode but Spock uses logic in all of his decision making. Kirk probably used logic to make bad Spock see logic to help good Kirk.

 

If it was truly a mirror universe, though, Spock wouldn't have the logic he possesses in "our" universe. Unless, it's his blind ignorance that's the real difference. But I may be overanalyzing.

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"If you picture time as a straight line along which we have to travel, then you must picture God as the whole page on which the line is drawn. We come to the parts of the line one by one: we have to leave A before we get to B, and cannot reach C until we leave B behind. God, from above or outside or all around, contains the whole line, and sees it all."

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Some people, including me, believe that the 3D world of space is basically an ever-moving 3D cross-section of 4D spacetime.

Kinda like how in Flatworld, the sphere moved through the 2D plane, and all the 2D inhabitants only saw the circle growing and then shrinking, since they could only see the 2D cross-section.

 

I would elaborate, but I'm in class right now :P


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Consider this: Time is a human concept. The word originated out of necessity as a way to describe the passing of day and night.

Fact: Senses are how we percieve reality.

Sight, Touch, Taste, Sound, and Smell are the five common senses, and are recognized as such. But these are not what we are limited to. I was going to give a list, but that would've gotten off-topic, so I'll just skip to the point.

 

"Chronoception refers to how the passage of time is perceived and experienced. Although the sense of time is not associated with a specific sensory system the work of psychologists and neuroscientists indicates that human brains do have a system governing the perception of time, composed of a highly distributed system involving the cerebral cortex, cerebellum and basal ganglia. One particular component, the suprachiasmatic nucleus, is responsible for the circadian (or daily) rhythm, while other cell clusters appear to be capable of shorter-range (ultradian) timekeeping." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senses#Time

 

And if you're too lazy to read that or don't fully understand, it basically says that, like all senses, there is a part of the body in control this perception, though it's irregular as there is no particular organ specifically devoted to it. Your perception of time, the idea that "time is relative," comes from the fact that time may pass slowly in one situation, whereas you'll lose track of it in another.

 

My theory behind all this is that because certain parts of the brain are what give us our perception of time, rather than a seperate organ to monitor it, the brain will not always be able to put full effort into keeping track of time for you, such as when you find yourself day dreaming, and then realize 10 minutes have passed you by. Or if you're not particularly distracted and are more focused on the passage of time, your brain will instinctively focus more on how much time has passed, making time to seem to take longer. Thus, "a watched pot never boils."

 

As for the theory that time moves in a seperate dimension that affects our reality. I can't prove nor disprove this beyond what I've stated above, and tbh it's a bit far out of my grasp. So I'll end by saying that time is relative, but consider what you're proposing with this "plane of existence that passes through different time periods like an elevator that just keeps going up as the tower is built."

If you can certainly defend it, then that's interesting, but I think that this proposition, and several similar that I've heard in the past, is a bit too complex for reality to maintain and balance.


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