Do You Support Twilicorn?

[Bright Honor 2,671]

Well for those who were hoping it was a temporary thing, looks like your hopes are crushed. You have two options.

 

Option A.) Deal with it.

 

or

 

Option B.) Don't watch the show anymore.

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,478]

Well for those who were hoping it was a temporary thing, looks like your hopes are crushed. You have two options.

 

Option A.) Deal with it.

 

or

 

Option B.) Don't watch the show anymore.

I can understand why people would think the way it was introduced was flawed, but honestly, why would anyone want it to be temporary? Because they want everything to stay the same forever? Because they want Twilight to just be a student of Celestia with absolutely no outcome? Because they do not want any advancement? I just don't get it. I want it to be permanent, that is my only hope for season 4. I want them to completely confirm that is is permanent. I know that it is basically confirmed already, I just want absolute confirmation. If they confirm that, then all of the great things that can happen now, CAN actually happen. It will show that DHX is willing and able to advance the series and create new possibilities. On top of this, this is Twilight's destiny, we should be happy for her.

 

If they confirm what I am hoping for, my happiness with soar to the sky, because the future of the show will then be incredibly bright.

[Dopey Hooves 90]

I actually suddenly changed my mind. I do support twilicorn. Because, I love MLP and I don't give a damn what they do or don't do in the episodes. Lets just be glad that we have a universe to live around with others trailing under our heels. 

[Misty Rose 3,216]

I'm pretty happy with Twilicorn. It gives this season something special and something for us to look forward to. Obviously everyone can't wait to see what happens to Twilight in Season 4 and it's got us more hyped about it. If Twilight hadn't turned into an Alicorn, we would just be looking forward to a regular season, with no clues as to what's to come. I'm happy because this is A HUGE UNEXPECTED CHANGE AND I LOVE SURPRISES!

[I am Lunar Fire 198]

Came back here, 4 months after the Twilicorn incident, too see this:
 

Here we go again! No, becoming a princess does not automatically make one a Mary-Sue. [...]

I thought people had either accepted it or left the fandom. Seems some people can't get enough with the whining.

What I know is that the series won't chaneg that much. Neither Cadence, Luna or Celestia are flawless princesses, and we see saw it through all 3 seasons of MLP. Twilight won't be perfect either. She will be as clumsy and as nerdy as before. Only now she has more responsabilities, which might not be so well of a thing after all...

 

Her friends do not become useless after this one, nor were they useless in EqG. I wonder if you even saw the movie after reading your text. They will be as important as they were before. If they weren't they would be no point of watching the show at all. The point is all of the mane 6 and supporting characters are as important as Twilight is.

After watching Equestria Girls, my stance on this one stays the same. They managed to do a wonderful movie out of a concept that was headed straight for failure (to the mooooooooooon), and I was in awe at the job DHX did on this one. I trusted them for the great work they did so far and seeing EqG only makes me more confident that they will manage Alicorn Twilight right.

[SBaby 660]

Well for those who were hoping it was a temporary thing, looks like your hopes are crushed. You have two options.

 

Option A.) Deal with it.

 

or

 

Option B.) Don't watch the show anymore.

 

While I do agree that it will be permanent (EQG made that explicitly clear, even if the movie's NOT canon), I have to stop you right there.  What you said there, is pretty much the same thing that Microsoft said regarding the DRM and always-online policies around the time of E3, and we all saw how well that went over with fans.  Not the choice of words I'd recommend using.

 

 

As for everyone else, I'd recommend people do what I suggested they do with Equestria Girls.  Wait and see where they go with it.

 

I told people to wait until Equestria Girls came out before flying off the handle, and I was right about that and it was way better than people thought it would be (a majority of the people who complained about it ended up liking it).  So let's at least wait until Season 4, before jumping to conclusions about whether you think Twilicorn will just be a 'pretty princess' (here's a hint; she won't) or not, and whether you think the other characters will be pushed to the backburner (spoiler alert;  they aren't going to be) or not.

Edited July 1, 2013 by SBaby

[Thunderbolt 35]

I don't have a problem with Twilicorn. Hasbro did it to sell more toys and I can care less. She is still the same Twilight we all know and love, just with wings. I have full confidence that the writers will be able to work it into the show so that it still works,

[Wright Boo 1]

Im from start of mlp dont liked the idea about twilicorn but i want to see what should happen if this idea released but i think it shouldnt be great

[Sickman 205]

I supported the idea from the beginning.
As soon as it was announced, I thought it was the best move they had made in Friendship Is Magic thus far, and I still think that.
Twilight's "transition to Alicorn state" represents the first real leap in character development in this series.
There's all sorts of good and bad decisions they can do from here on out, so here's hoping that they make the right ones.

Edited July 1, 2013 by Sickman

[Dolphanatic 298]

I can understand why people would think the way it was introduced was flawed, but honestly, why would anyone want it to be temporary? Because they want everything to stay the same forever? Because they want Twilight to just be a student of Celestia with absolutely no outcome? Because they do not want any advancement? I just don't get it. I want it to be permanent, that is my only hope for season 4. I want them to completely confirm that is is permanent. I know that it is basically confirmed already, I just want absolute confirmation. If they confirm that, then all of the great things that can happen now, CAN actually happen. It will show that DHX is willing and able to advance the series and create new possibilities. On top of this, this is Twilight's destiny, we should be happy for her.

 

If they confirm what I am hoping for, my happiness with soar to the sky, because the future of the show will then be incredibly bright.

It has never been confirmed that it will be permanent. I hate the alicornification of former best pony with a burning passion in my heart and I always will! The whole idea that Celestia just picks some lucky pony to become a goddess is plain dumb. "Oh but she was destined for it from the beginning!" No she wasn't! Otherwise we'd be seeing good coming out of this. Not rushed episode after rushed episode with a surreally horrible season finale. There was absolutely no buildup to Magical Mystery Cure; it just happened all of the sudden.

 

Instead of enjoying the show. I feel like the almost year-long wait will only have me disappointed. To be honest, If they can't put their act together by the fifth season (should the show last that long), I see no reason to hesitate from pulling the plug on MLP altogether. I really hate to say that, but It's true. I want to see something enjoyable. I want to see them bring back the clever story writing, the lighthearted humor, and well-rounded characters to drive it all. But right now, it all seems to slowly be crumbling. Don't get me wrong, I still love the show and there were still some good episodes in Season 3. But overall it has been a downhill slope as the minor writing errors from the previous seasons (like Spitfire not doing much in Hurricane Fluttershy) are growing into major problems (almost everything with The Crystal Empire and Magical Mystery Cure, as well as countless "well duh" and "what's going on" moments in Equestria Girls {even if it's not canon, it still had the same writers}). I'm not a quitter. I think it's stupid to be one. But I don't want to put too much faith in something that may very well crush my hopes, either.

Edited July 2, 2013 by Dolphanatic

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,478]

It has never been confirmed that it will be permanent. I hate the alicornification of former best pony with a burning passion in my heart and I always will! The whole idea that Celestia just picks some lucky pony to become a goddess is plain dumb. "Oh but she was destined for it from the beginning!" No she wasn't! Otherwise we'd be seeing good coming out of this. Not rushed episode after rushed episode with a surreally horrible season finale. There was absolutely no buildup to Magical Mystery Cure; it just happened all of the sudden.

 

Instead of enjoying the show. I feel like the almost year-long wait will only have me disappointed. To be honest, If they can't put their act together by the fifth season (should the show last that long), I see no reason to hesitate from pulling the plug on MLP altogether. I really hate to say that, but It's true. I want to see something enjoyable. I want to see them bring back the clever story writing, the lighthearted humor, and well-rounded characters to drive it all. But right now, it all seems to slowly be crumbling. Don't get me wrong, I still love the show and there were still some good episodes in Season 3. But overall it has been a downhill slope as the minor writing errors from the previous seasons (like Spitfire not doing much in Hurricane Fluttershy) are growing into major problems (almost everything with The Crystal Empire and Magical Mystery Cure, as well as countless "well duh" and "what's going on" moments in Equestria Girls {even if it's not canon, it still had the same writers}). I'm not a quitter. I think it's stupid to be one. But I don't want to put too much faith in something that may very well crush my hopes, either.

We can agree to disagree then, because I very much disagree. I do not see the episodes as bad, even if a couple of them might have been a bit rushed. You cannot expect everything to be perfectly done. I see MANY great things with Twilicorn. So many doors for the future of the show are now open. I see that as a great thing. If it is not permanent and they back out of it, I will lose all faith in the writers. I want to see this kind of advancement, it keeps things interesting and makes the character"s actions that much more meaningful.

 

Besides, the show was supposed to end at season 3. This is probably why Twilicorn happened so quick, it was supposed to be the original finale for the entire series. This was planned from the very beginning. Instead, it is just a completed story arch and that is very exciting, because we can now see other characters complete their's over time. The show still goes on and more ideas are introduced. I see nothing but great things from that. I just wish others like you could see it from this same positive angle that I do. I do not like seeing negativity like this, especially over something that is supposed to be a good thing.

Edited July 2, 2013 by Kyoshi

[Scootadress 361]

I can't say I hate Twilicorn, I have no idea what she will do in princess form yet. I'm assuming she'll still be a valuable asset, seeing as the movie still featured Twilicorn. I'm more curious than really "upset". I really LOVED the episode. It made sense to me as to why the ponies did what they did.

 

Pinkie Pie: Does "Apple Family" chores, but really doesn't see why it would make her happy since she's a party mare, not really a hard working mare like AJ.

Apple Jack:She doesn't see the art and design of the dress, which makes it more likely how she sees Rarity. Rarity likes the "art" as well as the utility of said outfit. Apple Jack is not one to be with design, but with utility.

Rarity sees the cutiemark as more weather oriented, not as a race because she's a hard working mare. I can see her thinking mainly that's what the mark means. Rainbow sees it as something FAST, like the bolt, but Rarity sees it as weather oriented. That's how they perceive it.

Fluttershy never really understood that being a clown isn't what Pinkie does. She LIKES making people happy. She DOESN'T do this because she REALLY wants to be a laughing stock or a partier. She throws parties to make ponies smile, not that its her SPECIAL talent. Smiling is, and the balloons were symbolic. She didn't understand it because she's more introverted then Pinkie.

Rainbow Dash:Sees it blunt. She lives with animals. But Fluttershy doesn't. She communicates and loves them, Rainbow Dash can't see this aspect. I think this really is what RD perceives Flutters to be doing essentially. 

 

Over all, showing their discomfort isn't hard, and they do not really need dialogue to show the discomfort. But, still, one nit pick:WHY ARE THE CUTIEMARKS THAT FREAKING BIG? *sigh* Anyways, I don't mind Twilicorn as long as its used properly.

[discorobot 8]

I fully support Twilight becoming an Alicorn! I didn't think the finale was horrendous; on the contrary, I thought the finale was well deserving of the title of finale

[Gone Airbourne 21,977]

I think it is a very interesting change to the show and will add a lot of new things that we will see in season 4. But I don't think I want to see another one of the characters change into a alicorn I think that did a good job with transitioning twilight to be in that role. 

 

Now for season 4 to hurry up and get here already.

[Fluttering High 55]

I wouldn't say it was ATROCIOUS... But really really reallyreally... REALLY bad might work. Let's face it, M.A. Larson did not write that episode, Daniel Ingram did. It was almost nothing but song! And not particularly catchy ones either. Sure, the Celestia signing thing was cool, and that first Cutie Mark song, but... Other than that? It was pretty bad.

 

I also just HATE the Twilicorn thing. It's pointless.

The episode was SUPPOSED to be a musical. They meant to make it different from all the episodes, to accentuate it. And I personally really like the True, True Friend song.

[OneTrickPony 64]

I feel like the first episode is going to be about how she loses her wings then though the entire season she trys to get them back but i don't like them i feel ilike it's adding Rainbow dash and Twilight and those two have not exactly seen eye to eye if oyu know what i mean but that's not a big deal thanks for the talk NEPTUNE OUT

[applejock 358]

I love this change. Its perfect progression IMHO for the series. I do NOT think it will change the mane 6 at all, and I DO think its perma. The only thing that will change IMHO has to be the intro. And really i am ok with that.

 

Not to mention, this will flesh out Tia and Lulu some more, just be the fact they will HAVE to be around the 4th princess.

 

I did not mention Candy because well come on, her and SA are sooooo making some foals!

[Dolphanatic 298]

Her friends do not become useless after this one, nor were they useless in EqG. I wonder if you even saw the movie after reading your text. They will be as important as they were before. If they weren't they would be no point of watching the show at all. The point is all of the mane 6 and supporting characters are as important as Twilight is.

Yes, I saw the movie. I watched it in a local theater with a few other fans on June 22. Therefore, I have a right to judge.

 

I've seen some really stupid posts by people who support alicorn Twilight. These people rarely receive any criticism. But the very minute someone like me tries to say why he or she dislikes the idea, it automatically gets shoved aside and classified as "whining".

Edited April 24, 2014 by Dolphanatic

[Ficta_Scriptor 165]

It's been such a long time since I've been here! How you all doing? Still arguing? D'awwwwwwwwwwwwwww.   Time for me to comment on some stuff!

 

 

I love this change. Its perfect progression IMHO for the series. I do NOT think it will change the mane 6 at all, and I DO think its perma. The only thing that will change IMHO has to be the intro. And really i am ok with that.

 

Not to mention, this will flesh out Tia and Lulu some more, just be the fact they will HAVE to be around the 4th princess.

 

I did not mention Candy because well come on, her and SA are sooooo making some foals!

 

I find comments like this confusing. Twilight becoming an alicorn princess shows perfect progression... but at the same time you think that it won't change anything and really like that idea. I'm sorry, but... what? The idea of progression is that something must change. My viewpoint is that if Twilight's ascension has virtually no bearing on the show besides a throwaway Rainbow flying lesson and a premiere with her princess woes, then the single biggest event in the show's history will have been for nothing. And that... doesn't sit right with me at all whatsoever.

 

Personally, I think the writers should go wild with this new change and really shake things up. If I don't like the direction they choose, fine. But I will still respect their creative integrity for doing such things. But if they really don't change anything, (which seems most likely given MA Larson's tweets on the subject) then I'll be a bit underwhelmed.

 

I guess what I'm saying is if you're going to come out and say, "I love Twilicorn because I support progression!" then it's really counter-intuitive to praise a lack of change.

 

 

Yes I saw the movie. I watched it in a local theater with a few other fans on June 22. Therefore I have a right to judge.

I've seen some really stupid posts by people who support alicorn Twilight. These people rarely receive any criticism. But the very minute someone like me tries to say why he or she dislikes the idea, it automatically gets shoved aside and classified as "whining".

 

It's because it's more difficult to criticise love than it is hatred, regardless of said person's comments. Still, I do think that haters are often inappropriately labelled as whiny man children who can't handle change. My guess is that the general self-important smugness of the brony community (which has pretty much always existed, but has truly reared its ugly head over the past few months) means people get a kick out of supporting the show, and sees those who don't like it as lesser beings. So many members of this fandom pat themselves on the back for being so 'awesomely open-minded' for watching a show outside their demographic. Take the brony documentary, which was basically a film for bronies to show other bronies how awesome bronies are, while sneering at the haters. And so, that mindset carries over to show direction, where people congratulate themselves on supporting changes to the show and sneer at those who dislike said changes. Love and tolerance would mean a case of 'OK, I like Twilicorn but you don't, that's fair enough. I don't agree with your opinion but it's not my place to say you're wrong.' What we actually see is Love and Ignorance.

 

Also, I'm finding it ridiculous that for all the cries of 'reserve judgement' (mainly for MMC and EQG) negative opinions are still frowned upon even after people watch it. "I guess you just convinced yourself that it was going to suck!" the morons cry. Kind of reminds me of when I played Demon's Souls for the first time. I saw gameplay videos and thought the hype was completely unjustified, that this game was just a generic piece of crap. When I actually played it it became my favourite RPG of all time. Then there's Super Mario Galaxy, which I wasn't even interested in, and expected just some boring kiddy platformer. BOOM. I'd go so far as to call it closer to perfection than any other game in existence. Oh, where was I?

 

Ah, yes. Speaking mostly of MMC and EQG, it seems that you're still not allowed to dislike them even after watching them. This is utterly ridiculous. Even the Sonic fandom isn't as bad. (Yes, I went there) I find it more confusing when it comes to EQG, though. The whole 'humanised ponies in high school' concept was never that well received. And yet, people aren't allowed to dislike that concept. Nope. Not allowed. You're just not open-minded enough. It was Hasbro anyway. Nope. You must like it. Interestingly enough, I actually never hated the concept. High school prom drama? Fine. I just hated the script. It was as if Meghan McPlothole gorged on whiskey and crayons while writing it IMO.

 

Anyway, getting onto Twilicorn and my opinions. Um... I'm basically in the "I'm waiting for season 4" camp. I'm still not keen on the idea, but that's mostly because I've found myself disappointed with season 3 and EQG, so it feels like a downward spiral right now. The concept isn't inherently bad, (though I do have a few reservations) but it needs to be executed well. Which... I really don't think it has. Maybe if EQG actually explained what the princess summit was and why Twilight was even there in the first place, (That's right kids! Twilight and co's reason for being there is never explained! And since it's non-canon we won't get an explanation in season 4! And yet Sunset Shimmer knew the exact day to search for the crown, which was lucky considering that the portal only opens every 30 moons or something!) I would be saying otherwise, but no. They did have her somewhat getting over her fears of being a princess, but really not in a good way IMO. Saying "Well I dealt with being a human, I guess I can tackle anything!" just wasn't enough. We needed information on her role as princess for this to hold any weight.

 

Anyway... end of post! Probably won't come back here for a while!

[Shanks 10,816]

I love this change. Its perfect progression IMHO for the series. I do NOT think it will change the mane 6 at all, and I DO think its perma. The only thing that will change IMHO has to be the intro. And really i am ok with that.

Progression means that things actually will change, how much and whether or not it will be for the better neither side really knows for sure. It is going to be a difficult balancing act between making enough change to where the alicorn Twilight transformation actually means something more than just "wings+fancy title=more toy sales" while not changing things so much that Twilight becomes barely even recognizable. Twilight clearly met that balance well in Equestria Girls, however there are still issues which needs to be worked out like why it happened so abruptly and why Celestia never actually talked to Twilight about it before turning her into one. You would think Celestia would talk to her first about something so important.

 

 

It's because it's more difficult to criticise love than it is hatred, regardless of said person's comments. Still, I do think that haters are often inappropriately labelled as whiny man children who can't handle change. 

I think there is a big difference between a critic/skeptic and an actual hater, haters will just hate on something without really even giving it a shot and often make baseless assumption with little to no evidence such as the claims that "Twilight will leave" her friends or "Twilight will be immortal" arguments. Critics will voice some concerns and once they give someone a shot may dislike or even despise something but will try to keep an open mind. I opposed twilicorn because I felt it was way too soon and handled very poorly in the season finale but had no problem with her becoming one if it was at the right time and handled properly. I later adopted my current stance of becoming neutral yet optimistic after seeing Equestria Girls which was a lot better than I expected it to be. I of course understand alot of the arguments against twilicorn because I have voiced many of those concerns myself and even though I liked the Equestria Girls movie I can understand why some people didn't. I will admit that it is cliched and predictable, but I think they did well considering the demands Hasbro put on the writers.

Edited July 4, 2013 by EarthbendingProdigy

[SirTherodar 28]

While I feel the episode was rushed, I do think that Twilight being an alicorn has potential.  It gives the writers more to work with in regards to future stories.  It also gives the characters more room to grow and develop, for example, how will the Mane Six deal with Twilight having authority over them, for that matter, how will Twilight act?  Will she become drunk with power or will she be a responsible leader?  Twilight becoming an alicorn creates many new story opportunities for the next season.  Many people don't like change and panic when it happens, as Flipturn Amaterasu ツ said above, "innocent until proven guilty."

[Princess Periwinkle 3,775]

It has never been confirmed that it will be permanent. I hate the alicornification of former best pony with a burning passion in my heart and I always will! The whole idea that Celestia just picks some lucky pony to become a goddess is plain dumb. "Oh but she was destined for it from the beginning!" No she wasn't! Otherwise we'd be seeing good coming out of this. Not rushed episode after rushed episode with a surreally horrible season finale. There was absolutely no buildup to Magical Mystery Cure; it just happened all of the sudden.

 

Instead of enjoying the show. I feel like the almost year-long wait will only have me disappointed. To be honest, If they can't put their act together by the fifth season (should the show last that long), I see no reason to hesitate from pulling the plug on MLP altogether. I really hate to say that, but It's true. I want to see something enjoyable. I want to see them bring back the clever story writing, the lighthearted humor, and well-rounded characters to drive it all. But right now, it all seems to slowly be crumbling. Don't get me wrong, I still love the show and there were still some good episodes in Season 3. But overall it has been a downhill slope as the minor writing errors from the previous seasons (like Spitfire not doing much in Hurricane Fluttershy) are growing into major problems (almost everything with The Crystal Empire and Magical Mystery Cure, as well as countless "well duh" and "what's going on" moments in Equestria Girls {even if it's not canon, it still had the same writers}). I'm not a quitter. I think it's stupid to be one. But I don't want to put too much faith in something that may very well crush my hopes, either.

 

Well, after reading that post I have absolutely zero respect for you.

 

"Celestia just picks some lucky pony to become a goddess"? Are you kidding? Have you even watched the show? Twilight is not "some lucky pony", she not only has the largest raw magical ability that Celsetia has ever seen, she has proved throughout the first three seasons that she is a qualified leader.

 

And what the hell is "rushed episode after rushed episode"? You just complain about it and move on without explaining. How was Twilicorn rushed? Just how many episodes did you want it to take for her to get her wings?

 

If you're going to "pull the plug" if we keep gettings episodes like MMC, then I encourage you to. I'd rather not have the negative attitude around anyway.

[Radost 76]

I thought it went to quick and their was to much song and not enough episode. I thought that twilight becoming a princess was a good idea, i just think they went about it the wrong way or maybe rushed it, only reason people are freaking out is because people don't like change... just the way it is.

[Dolphanatic 298]

Well, after reading that post I have absolutely zero respect for you.

 

"Celestia just picks some lucky pony to become a goddess"? Are you kidding? Have you even watched the show? Twilight is not "some lucky pony", she not only has the largest raw magical ability that Celsetia has ever seen, she has proved throughout the first three seasons that she is a qualified leader.

 

And what the hell is "rushed episode after rushed episode"? You just complain about it and move on without explaining. How was Twilicorn rushed? Just how many episodes did you want it to take for her to get her wings?

 

If you're going to "pull the plug" if we keep gettings episodes like MMC, then I encourage you to. I'd rather not have the negative attitude around anyway.

Wow thanks! You're so nice!

 

Guess what? You're not the only member of this fandom. There are going to be people who disagree with you and who's to say they're always wrong and you're always right?

 

I've posted countless walls of text explaining my criticism for alicorn Twilight. But apparently you want another so here goes!

 

As a princess, Twilight will spend the majority of her time doing her royal duties or simply adjusting to being a princess (we've already seen plenty of these overly cutesy time wasters in MMC and EQG alone). Never mind that her friends are supposed to be in this with her (after all, they're the real source of Twilight's power, aren't they?) , we will for the most part see little more than Twilight doing cheesy gags with her wings. Oh, wait a second, did I tell you that Rainbow Dash just got accepted into the Wonderbolt Academy? Oh well, who cares! We wanna see Twilie learn to fly! What's that? Rarity met a nice stallion who could help her get recognized in the fashion industry? Oh please! Gimme a break! We'd all rather see Twilight flirting with Flash Sentry! What now? Applejack and her family are trying to get enough water to keep their stock alive through a drought? Tch! Puh-leeze! I think I speak for everypony when I say that I'd rather see Twilight attend boring banquets and drink tea! Oh, by the way, Pinkie Pie is entering a cupcake making contest but there's been rumors of food poisoning going on recently. So What? Twilight signing a pile of certified documents is way more intriguing! Hey, is that Fluttershy? Is she being burdened with the task of taking care of some dangerous animals? Aw no bother! Twilight looks so cute in her dress and she's obviously way more interesting than those lame sideki-err I mean her friends!

 

"But wait!", you say. "Twilight won't be leaving her friends! She'll be staying in Ponyville with the rest of them!" Okay, fair enough. But that only raises even more concerns. If she continues to be the "same adorkable pony", staying in her library, then her coronation was all for naught. After all, what's the point of having a princess when she does nothing more than what a normal citizen would do? Isn't that kinda missing the point? If she's a princess, then she is burdened with the task of being a leader. And she can't exactly do that if she's going to sit around in the Golden Oaks Library all day. Equestria wants to see a leader, not an antisocial unicorn librarian with a pointless pair of out-of-place, over-sized wings on her back.

 

"But it's character development. Quit being so mean to your favorite pony, Dolphanatic! Without change, nothing would ever get accomplished!" Well I, for one, beg to differ. Twilight's character was intriguing enough as is; certainly enough to get me hooked. I loved her character. I had never known a character who thought and acted just like I would in her situations, making the same decisions I would. It was a relief to see, especially in a day and age where being analytical and studious are usually shown in a negative light. Countless times I've been called out for not "acting normal" by fellow family members to the point of them thinking they must tell others in advance that I "think too literally and am hindered from socially interacting properly". Sometimes I would be blamed for not having many friends. Twilight's character was well established from the first episode, with her being the bearer of the Element of Magic. Then came Cutie Mark Chronicles which gave us a flashback that supported her storyline even further by telling us she first succeeded in passing the entrance exam for enrollment in Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns only after seeing a sign from a future friend (Rainbow Dash's first sonic rainboom). At that point, she realized how much power she was truly capable of. So did Celestia, who offered to be her mentor to help her learn to better control her magic.

 

So does that add up to becoming an alicorn princess? No it doesn't. Why? Well first off, Celestia was supposed to be queen, not princess (the same goes for Luna). And while Lauren Faust said that Twilight would at some point be Celestia's successor, she probably meant Twilight would eventually work through the ranks and maybe even be promoted to princess status (with the two alicorns being queens and Twilight staying a unicorn). Maybe later she would fill in her role in some way or another as a "successor" of sorts. We don't really know. All we know is that Twilight was not intended to be an alicorn (Lauren Faust said this as well).

 

A lot of people (including me) will tell you that Season 3 was, in fact, rushed. After all, they had to cram a lot of would-be multiple episodes and ambitious two-parters into a measly 13 episodes. Magic Dual, along with many of Season 3's episodes, had a great buildup, only to run out of time and have an ending that was very abrupt and hard to follow. Then there's Magical Mystery Cure, which was even more ambitious. But that only backfired. One moment everypony's cutie marks are messed up (there were a lot of writing errors to originate from this alone, such as how Pinkie had no knowledge of how to work on a farm despite living in a rock farm when she was a filly, and such), the next moment Twilight suddenly ties all loose ends with almost no explanation given, in just a few verses of song. And while I'm talking about the music, let me just say this: In order to give a song the most meaning in this show, there should be time for us to let it sink in. It's hard to do that when song after song after song is being crammed and shortened just to make room for the next. It's just overwhelming. But I'm getting off track here. So as I was saying, just after everything gets solved, Twilight Sparkle, for whatever reason, finishes Starswirl's unfinished spell with a spell that she should have known from the pilot episode. Then things really go off the deep end when Twilight suddenly disappears and finds herself being promoted to an alicorn and guess what? When she reappears, she finds out that she's also a princess! Why? I honestly don't know. Because she has wings, I guess (after all, Fluttershy did say she "looked like a princess" when Twilight unfurled her new wings). This is so far from the original intention of the show that it's facepalmable. Then there's the cheesy coronation scene with Twilight eventually saying that she was "the luckiest pony in Equestria" which she certainly was, seeing that she suddenly has all of Equestria cheering for their new princess who was promoted out of the blue. In short: Yes, there were many instances in Season 3 where the writing simply fell flat.

 

I'd really hate to give up on this show. I'm not a quitter. I think it's foolish to be one. But on the other hand, I want to see something enjoyable. I want to see them bring back the clever story writing, the lighthearted humor, and well-rounded characters to drive it all. But right now, it all seems to slowly be crumbling. Don't get me wrong, I still love the show and there were still some good episodes in Season 3. But overall it has been a downhill slope. I don't want to put too much faith in something that may very well crush my hopes.

Edited November 28, 2014 by Dolphanatic

[Princess Periwinkle 3,775]

Wow thanks! You're so nice!

Ehh, I was in a bad mood. Excuses aside, I'll attempt to respond without coming off as so much of a jerk this time.

 

I've posted countless walls of text explaining my criticism for alicorn Twilight. But apparently you want another so here goes!

I never asked for one but okay.

 

As a princess, Twilight will spend the majority of her time doing her royal duties or simply adjusting to being a princess (we've already seen plenty of these overly cutesy time wasters in MMC and EQG alone). Never mind that her friends are supposed to be in this with her (after all, they're the real source of Twilight's power, aren't they?) , we will for the most part see little more than Twilight doing cheesy gags with her wings. Oh, wait a second, did I tell you that Rainbow Dash just got accepted into the Wonderbolt Academy? Oh well, who cares! We wanna see Twilie learn to fly! What's that? Rarity met a nice stallion who could help her get recognized in the fashion industry? Oh please! Gimme a break! We'd all rather see Twilight flirting with Flash Sentry! What now? Applejack and her family are trying to get enough water to keep their stock alive through a drought? Tch! Puh-leeze! I think I speak for everypony when I say that I'd rather see Twilight attend boring banquets and drink tea! Oh, by the way, Pinkie Pie is entering a cupcake making contest but there's been rumors of food poisoning going on recently. So What? Twilight signing a pile of certified documents is way more intriguing! Hey, is that Fluttershy? Is she being burdened with the task of taking care of some dangerous animals? Aw no bother! Twilight looks so cute in her dress and she's obviously way more interesting than those lame sideki-err I mean her friends!

I don't exactly get your logic here. Why do you assume that Twilicorn will get all t he attention and the rest of the mane 6 won't get any? Also, you're bringing up EqG which isn't canon. I don't think the wings will change the type of episodes we'll be getting for the most part, but you address this below so I'll continue my thoughts there.

 

"But wait!", you say. "Twilight won't be leaving her friends! She'll be staying in Ponyville with the rest of them!" Okay, fair enough. But that only raises even more concerns. If she continues to be the "same adorkable pony", staying in her library, then her coronation was all for naught. After all, what's the point of having a princess when she does nothing more than what a normal citizen would do? Isn't that kinda missing the point? If she's a princess, then she is burdened with he task of being a leader. And she can't exactly do that if she's going to sit around in the Golden Oaks Library all day. Equestria wants to see a leader, not an antisocial unicorn librarian with a pointless pair of out-of-place, over-sized floppy triangles wings on her back.

I think it's all about balance here. I believe in Meghan McCarthy and her crew, as they have not yet failed me. It will be interesting to see Twilight dealing with royal issues of significant importance, and minor issues in Ponyville. I hate to say "blindly trust the writers," but that's pretty much what I'm doing. I believe my faith is well placed, however.

 

"But it's character development. Quit being so mean to your favorite pony, Dolphanatic! Without change, nothing would ever get accomplished!" Well I, for one, beg to differ. Twilight's character was intriguing enough as is; certainly enough to get me hooked. I loved her character. I had never known a character who thought and acted just like I would in her situations, making the same decisions I would. It was a relief to see, especially in a day and age where being analytical and studious are usually shown in a negative light. Countless times I've been called out for not "acting normal" by fellow family members to the point of them thinking they must tell others in advance that I "think too literally and am hindered from socially interacting properly". Sometimes I would be blamed for not having many friends. Twilight's character was well established from the first episode, with her being the bearer of the Element of Magic. Then came Cutie Mark Chronicles which gave us a flashback that supported her story line even further by telling us she first succeeded in passing the entrance exam for enrollment in Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns only after seeing a sign from a future friend (Rainbow Dash's first sonic rainboom). At that point, she realized how much power she was truly capable of. So did Celestia, who offered to be her mentor to help her learn to better control her magic.

So basically you're saying that Twilight was already an interesting enough character that she didn't need any development. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I personally welcomed her first real character development since the beginning of the show.

 

So does that add up to becoming an alicorn princess? No it doesn't. Why? Well first off, Celestia was supposed to be queen, not princess (the same goes for Luna). And while Lauren Faust said that Twilight would at some point be Celestia's successor, she probably meant Twilight would eventually work through the ranks and maybe even be promoted to princess status (with the two alicorns being queens and Twilight staying a unicorn). Maybe later she would fill in her role in some way or another as a "successor" of sorts. We don't really know. All we know is that Twilight was not intended to be an alicorn (Lauren Faust said this as well).

 

 

I read somewhere (from McCarthy, I think) that Magical Mystery Cure had been written during the first season. I can't remember where I read it, and I haven't been able to find a source. If I ever find it I'll link it, I guess.

 

A lot of people (including me) will tell you that Season 3 was, in fact, rushed. After all, they had to cram a lot of would-be multiple episodes and ambitious two-parters into a measly 13 episodes. Magic Dual, along with many of Season 3's episodes, had a great buildup, only to run out of time and have an ending that was very abrupt and hard to follow.

I for one did not find any of the episodes hard to follow. I'll admit 13 episodes was kinda lame, though.

 

Then there's Magical Mystery Cure, which was even more ambitious. But that only backfired. One moment everypony's cutie marks are messed up (there were a lot of writing errors to originate from this alone, such as how Pinkie had no knowledge of how to work on a farm despite living in a rock farm when she was a filly, and such)

Rock farm ≠ Apple farm

 

the next moment Twilight suddenly ties all loose ends with almost no explanation given, in just a few verses of song. And while I'm talking about the music, let me just say this: In order to give a song the most meaning in this show, there should be time for us to let it sink in. It's hard to do that when song after song after song is being crammed and shortened just to make room for the next. It's just overwhelming. But I'm getting off track here.

Well I guess it's just opinion but I thought the songs were great. It's called a "musical," where the songs help tell the story. I think it's brilliant.

 

So as I was saying, just after everything gets solved, Twilight Sparkle, for whatever reason, finishes Starswirl's unfinished spell with a spell that she should have known from the pilot episode. Then things really go off the deep end when Twilight suddenly disappears and finds herself being promoted to an alicorn and guess what? When she reappears, she finds out that she's also a princess! Why? I honestly don't know. Because she has wings, I guess (after all, Fluttershy did say she "looked like a princess" when Twilight unfurled her floppy triangles wings). This is so far from the original intention of the show that it's facepalmable. Then there's the cheesy coronation scene with Twilight eventually saying that she was "the luckiest pony in Equestria" which she certainly was, seeing that she suddenly has all of Equestria cheering for their new princess who was promoted out of the blue. In short: Yes, there were many instances in Season 3 where the writing simply fell flat.

Well, Alicorns are a sign of royalty. Of course, it's not explained in the show (yet), but Celestia and Luna are obviously the highest level Alicorns. They've been alive thousands of years, they're super powerful and wise... Cadence and Twilight are ponies that have been promoted to Alicorns (royalty) because of their talent/ability. Why was she given wings? Because that's the whole reason Celestia was training her.

 

Calling them "floppy triangles" does nothing to help improve your argument, by the way.

 

I'd really hate to give up on this show. I'm not a quitter. I think it's foolish to be one. But on the other hand, I want to see something enjoyable. I want to see them bring back the clever story writing, the lighthearted humor, and well-rounded characters to drive it all. But right now, it all seems to slowly be crumbling. Don't get me wrong, I still love the show and there were still some good episodes in Season 3. But overall it has been a downhill slope. I don't want to put too much faith in something that may very well crush my hopes.

I just think you're being too pessimistic. You could prove me wrong, however, we'll just have to wait and see.

 

I trust the writers. Hasbro threw Twilicorn at them and I think they'll be able to handle it.