Why shouldn't this show ever change?

[Pony Of The Month 534]

I'm not just talking about Twilicorn either. If you haven't noticed already, every season is completely different. Season 3 is different from Season 2, which is different than Season 1. So my question is why does everyone hate change? I'm not just talking about Alicorn Twilight either. There are other things. 

 

People say that some of the characters being slightly different in season 3. I see this mainly with Twilight and Pinkie. People really over exaggerate the changes of these characters. They're only SLIGHTLY different. It's called character development. And the ironic thing is that these same people will complain about Fluttershy never changing. They're mad that she's still the same Fluttershy from season 1, but when they develop Twilight or Pinkie Pie, even just a little bit, they complain. 

 

So, I'm gonna stop derailing myself here, and talk about why change is a good thing. 

 

The MAIN reason that I believe that this show is better than Spongebob, or Phineas And Ferb, is because it doesn't stick to the status quo. 

 

I haven't seen any of the recent Spongebob episodes, but even I know that Spongebob still hasn't gotten his boating licence yet. Seriously, how could you possibly be entertained by a boating school episode knowing that Spongebob won't get his licence at the end? 

 

But than we have MLP, where Twilight has now graduated and is moving on to the next stage in her life. Much more interesting if you ask me. 

 

I personally prefer shows where the story progresses, and I don't like it when shows stick to the status quo. 

 

[Leafeon 2,702]

People say that some of the characters being slightly different in season 3. I see this mainly with Twilight and Pinkie. People really over exaggerate the changes of these characters. They're only SLIGHTLY different. It's called character development. And the ironic thing is that these same people will complain about Fluttershy never changing. They're mad that she's still the same Fluttershy from season 1, but when they develop Twilight or Pinkie Pie, even just a little bit, they complain. 

Wait. You know it's the exact same people complaining?

 

Pinkie wasn't developed  She became more of an airhead. There's a difference. Like Rainbow, who progressively is becoming less of a jerk, is a pony that's being developed. Pinkie is going the opposite direction (With the exception of Too Many Pinkie Pies), and becoming more of something less.

 

OT: Good question. I'd like to never see futuristic technology, when it's not being used as magic/a joke.  I quite like where MLP is set, and it's nice to see it developing in technology a bit (There was no steam trains in season 1), but yea.

 

I think that's about it. I can't really think of anything much else.

[Shanks 10,816]

I think why a lot of people feel that Twilight is not the same Twilight is because most of the attention Twilight got in season 3 was in episodes that had a more dramatic feel to them like the Crystal Empire two parter and the season finale which cause certain character traits like her OCD like tendencies and adorkable qualities to not get as much attention this season as they usually do as these qualities tend to come out more in slice of life episodes. As for Pinkie Pie she got hardly any attention at all in season 3 but at least wasn't pushed aside quite as much as Rarity has been, she did get one episode in Too Many Pinkie Pies which I thought was a good episode. I don't really understand why people think that Pinkie Pie is becoming a one dimensional character when there really isn't much to base that off of from this season.

 

Fluttershy I think suffers from the opposite, it is not that she is changing the least that drags her down as a character as it does make sense that she would be the slowest to change. It is the inconsistency that I take issue with, it seems that in one episode Fluttershy learns a lesson but then an episode or two later that lesson is forgotten and never brought up again. Characters will backslide every now and then, but the lack of acknowledgement of this in the show has really bugged me. Don't get me wrong I like Fluttershy but she would probably be higher on my list if not for this inconsistency.

Edited March 23, 2013 by EarthbendingProdigy

[Pony Of The Month 534]

Wait. You know it's the exact same people complaining?

 

Pinkie wasn't developed  She became more of an airhead. There's a difference. Like Rainbow, who progressively is becoming less of a jerk, is a pony that's being developed. Pinkie is going the opposite direction (With the exception of Too Many Pinkie Pies), and becoming more of something less.

 

OT: Good question. I'd like to never see futuristic technology, when it's not being used as magic/a joke.  I quite like where MLP is set, and it's nice to see it developing in technology a bit (There was no steam trains in season 1), but yea.

 

I think that's about it. I can't really think of anything much else.

She really doesn't seem that different. She's always been an airhead whenever she's not the focus. Why is everyone just noticing this now?

Edited March 23, 2013 by Flutterbass

[Leafeon 2,702]

She really doesn't seem that different. She's always been in airhead whenever she's not the focus. Why is everyone just noticing this now?

Because it's been put up to an extreme that it wasn't at before. Instead of having humor like that spread out, it's now pretty much all her dialogue.

[Pony Of The Month 534]

Because it's been put up to an extreme that it wasn't at before. Instead of having humor like that spread out, it's now pretty much all her dialogue.

Well out of all the mane 6, she had the second least amount of screen time in season 3. You could easily make the same argument about Rarity.

[Rainbow Dash 1,472]

Pinkie has changed only a little from what i saw. I also like the fact that this show has character development in it. I just think that they need to distribute the development out evenly. Rarity and Fluttershy haven't changed at all from what i have seen.

[Leafeon 2,702]

Well out of all the mane 6, she had the second least amount of screen time in season 3. You could easily make the same argument about Rarity.

Rarity was actually less prissy this season, for every episode except Sleepless in Ponyville.

 

Though, I see your point. The time for each character wasn't distributed very well season 3.... so yea. We'll have to see in season 4.

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,605]

I do agree with Firebolt a little bit about Pinkie Pie, because her personality has really seen no major diversity in season 3. Now does that bother me really? Not exactly, I mean, she is basically established as the crazy character that is made of pure fun. Could that get old? Ehhhhhh, maybe, but for me, maybe not. I think we have had enough diversity with the other characters so it isn't over saturated.

 

In terms of what you said about character advancement, I cannot agree enough. That is one of he many reasons to why I love the whole Twilicorn idea, because I would love to see the writers pull something off that other cartoons will not even dare to touch. Besides, it is clear that the writers intentions are to not change Twilight's personality and I have full confidence in them with this fact. These reasons are why I am so excited for season 4.

Edited March 23, 2013 by Kyoshi

[Shanks 10,816]

Well out of all the mane 6, she had the second least amount of screen time in season 3. You could easily make the same argument about Rarity.

Yes, that is actually one issue I have had with Rarity. In the episodes that do focus on her they do an excellent job of bringing out her positive traits but on the ones that don't it seems almost every line she has follows her primadonna side which drags stifles her massive potential as a character. Because of this I really didn't like her that much at first but she has grown on me a bit more.

[lincolnshirepony 527]

I would agree that the dynamic nature of this show is part of what makes it so much fun to watch.

 

For instance, I love Twilight's character arc. It was executed exceedingly well. Throughout the whole show, she's been learning what it means to have friends and show compassion for others. In Season 3 especially, she is shown to be learning more about how to use her magical talent and how to be an effective leader. Then at the end of Season 3, she finally is able to use the magic of friendship to do something that nopony has ever done before. She reached the point where she was ready to fulfill her destiny as a princess.

 

This isn't to say that there's nowhere left for her to go, which I think is what many are concerned about. I think that the crew of the show will be able to do a lot with her. There are plenty of ways she could grow as a princess, and plenty of new opportunities for her to learn. I think that this development opens up more possibilities for her and her friends to have new adventures.

 

So, I respect this show for not being afraid to switch things up and allowing the characters to grow. I find it much more entertaining.

[Orablanco Account 3,707]

The problem with Twilight Princess is that the show has to change. It has to. You don't just turn one of the main characters into a demigod (maybe, I don't know, princesses are not well defined in this show) and just keep everything the same, just having her walk around Ponyville like nothing has changed. That would cheapen not only what a princess in the show's mythology is, but it makes this important change in her life...well, not really important.

 

I dunno. I guess we have to wait to S4 to see if any of this mattered. Knowing the writers, this will probably be great.

[duidamasterXD 9,627]

There is a massive difference between voicing specific complaints about changes that we may not enjoy and being universally opposed to change. I actually enjoyed gruff Spitfire, Discord's reformation and the new better-adjusted Luna and I actually devoted a decent amount of time to explaining why for at least the former two, which seemed to be the ones that people chose to complain about. 

 

For Twilight, many of her fans feel that she has developed in ways that make her less relatable/engaging/interesting than before. If that is something that they see, then I'm not going to fault them for not liking it. 

 

And for Pinkie, many feel that while she has always been bubbly and random, this has been dialed up several notches relative to previous seasons and she is in danger of becoming a caricature of herself. This isn't character development, but character regression. There isn't any kind of canonical explanation for this either, and I don't blame anybody for being upset by this. I'm actually in agreement with these people, and as a massive Pinkie fan especially I was disappointed by how she was portrayed for most of the season. 

 

And as for Alicorn Twilight, there are many reasons people don't like it. They weren't satisfied with the build up to it or the presentation, they feel that it was too early, they don't like how this seems to center the show on Twilight more than ever before, and I'm sure many more.

 

All in all, I view change as a good thing, however there are many perfectly legitimate reasons to not subjectively enjoy all changes to the show. 

[Dr. Eggnog 203]

If the show does the same thing over and over, it WILL get stale.  If it changes, it MIGHT get bad, but I think that's a risk worth taking.  I love it when I see real character development or subtle shifts in tone.

 

I didn't like Fluttershy in Magic Duel, but Keep Calm and Flutter On made up for that.  Twilight is still my favorite and I'm happy she's become an alicorn princess.

[An Old Head 4,816]

It'd be natural for me as a loyal Pinkie fanboy to say that she's not becoming one dimensional... and objectively, I still think she's not becoming one-dimensional. Season 3 saw just as many flairs in her character as any other season, and this isn't owed to Too Many Pinkie Pies alone. Here are some of many things that say it:

• Pride of home place in Magic Duel, taking offence at Trixie insulting rock farms
• Refreshment of her reliance upon friends in Wonderbolt Academy
• We knew about the two Pinkies - happy Pinkie, sad Pinkamena. TMPP didn't see Pinkamena, Magical Mystery Cure did - it shows contrasting depths of what makes her happy more than other things
• Her generally becoming more hyperactive isn't owed to a flattening in character. I made a blog post specifically for the issue, because a lot of people misunderstand Pinkie like that: http://lksk.in/5993

I feel as if Pinkie is very overlooked in terms of depth. It's a shame to see widespread deeming of her as just some bouncy pony to stick in for laughs. Especially with Too Many Pinkie Pies come and gone.

[TailsIsNotAlone 3,695]

I think it's okay for this show to change. It just hasn't changed in any of the ways I wanted to see, except for better animation.

[Harmonic Revelations 8,835]

Wait. You know it's the exact same people complaining?

 

Pinkie wasn't developed  She became more of an airhead. There's a difference. Like Rainbow, who progressively is becoming less of a jerk, is a pony that's being developed. Pinkie is going the opposite direction (With the exception of Too Many Pinkie Pies), and becoming more of something less.

 

OT: Good question. I'd like to never see futuristic technology, when it's not being used as magic/a joke.  I quite like where MLP is set, and it's nice to see it developing in technology a bit (There was no steam trains in season 1), but yea.

 

I think that's about it. I can't really think of anything much else.

 The technology serves a purpose, though. Take the example of Steam Trains. In a olden setting, the only other feasible transportation would be by horseback, and they can't do that, so the writer's options were:

 

A.) Walking

B.) Train

Edited March 23, 2013 by ♥Harmonic Revelations♥

[Leafeon 2,702]

 The technology serves a purpose, though. Take the example of Steam Trains. In a olden setting, the only other feasible transportation would be by horseback, and they can't do that, so the writer's options were:

 

A.) Walking

B.) Train

Or: Bribing Twilight to teleport them/fly them to their destination. After all; that's obviously the easiest way to get anywhere.

[Harmonic Revelations 8,835]

Or: Bribing Twilight to teleport them/fly them to their destination. After all; that's obviously the easiest way to get anywhere.

It's not quite elaborated upon how much effort it takes to teleport, but considering we don't see most unicorns doing it, and we don't see higher up unicorns doing it often I'd surmise it takes effort, and I can't imagine how much effort it would take to teleport six ponies.

[Leafeon 2,702]

It's not quite elaborated upon how much effort it takes to teleport, but considering we don't see most unicorns doing it, and we don't see higher up unicorns doing it often I'd surmise it takes effort, and I can't imagine how much effort it would take to teleport six ponies.

That was a joke. ^^'

 

You're right, tho. Train is the most useful. I just don't want to see an episode dedicated to why Rarity shouldn't text while driving.

[Scootalove 10,689]

I think it is because of the individual development of each character (minus the background ponies.) Change is something that people will get used to as time progresses, and as time progresses the show itself changes along with it. If the show changes, some people will not agree with certain changes and they will complain.

[Harmonic Revelations 8,835]

That was a joke. ^^'

 

You're right, tho. Train is the most useful. I just don't want to see an episode dedicated to why Rarity shouldn't text while driving.

Oh, so you don't want to see an episode like that. I guess that might just mean that Equestria Girls just isn't the show for you, then. 

 

[pinkieshyrose 58]

I could state a few facts about Twilight as a alicorn....

 

1. The whole show might drastically change, not to mention we had no hints of her wanting to be a princess let alone alicorn...

 

2. It takes away from the other characters, yes shes the main character but the show doesnt have to constanly rub it in are faces which they didn't in both season 1 and 2 but 3 and somthing I deeply amired she was in most episodes other than, sleepless in Ponyville...

 

3.  She been slowly learning more lessons than others. What other major lessons can she learn? Other than princess ones..

 

4. Change is good sometimes but other times it dapens shows.....

 

5. Did she even need wings? or her princess title?

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For both Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie I dont see as much things but I can point out some issues that bother me.

 

1. If anything I think fluttershys going to fast. She learned about being less of a push over she didnt learn about coming less shy there two diffrent things, not to mention theres not many lessons on the amount of fears she has these season she doesnt seem very shy other than the trixie episode.... her name is fluttershy they cant take that way....

 

2. Rainbow Dash may have learned lessons but she hasnt learned one about being......(sorry rd fans) a jerk somtimes yet suddenly after cystral empire the whole season she isnt one...

 

3. Pinkies worry worting more I understand why but its sad to see somtimes change is not good... I hardly noticed the air head thing I think the problem is that the writers havent made her useful theyve made it so that shes the problem or has the problem they never let her be helpful like she normally is....

Edited March 23, 2013 by pinkieshyrose