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Right, so I noticed that WAY before season 3 even premiered, there were quite a few fanfics about Twilight growing wings, and these became extremely popular on FIMFiction; everyone loved them!

So what I don't understand is how everyone loved the fanfics of Twilight becoming an alicorn, but when it actually happens in the show, loads of people hate the idea!

What?! You should be pleased, shouldn't you? That's what you wanted!

Personally, I like Twilight being an alicorn (although I will miss her as a unicorn, I have to admit), so I think the hate for it is unnecessary. But that's just my opinion. :)

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Enjoying a fan fiction isn't the same as wanting it to be canon. I loved The Elements of Gaming, but I wouldn't want pony video gaming to become canon; it's enjoyable because it's a look outside what should actually happen in the show.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm neutral on Twilicorn, but there shouldn't be any dual enjoyment of a fan fiction idea and the same idea in canon.

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I've always thought that Fanfiction was a way to introduce and change things that would never happen in the canon. Basically a way to let your imagination run wild. A good example is killing of characters. No one actually  wants members of the cast killed off, but Fanfiction lets you explore the idea of it, while still safe in the knowledge that its non-canon.
Some people may have just wanted to explore the idea of Twilight getting wings, but they may not actually want that to occur in the show itself, so that could be where some of the hate stems.

 

I hated the idea just before Magical Mystery Cure aired, but I sort of learned to accept it, and it really doesn't bother me anymore:)

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I enjoy reading clopfics, doesn't mean I want any explicit sexual themes in the actual show, same thing with fanfics like the Fallout Equestria series.

Fanfiction is the author's story and his/hers alone, it has nothing to do with the cannon show.


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Of course you don't understand, because you're looking at it wrong. It's not hate. It's disagreement or a preference for Twi as a unicorn, simple as that. Some people liked the idea of Twilicorn from the beginning (likely the same ones who wrote those fanfics), others didn't. Some liked the idea better after the finale aired; some didn't. And even that was for different reasons. We're all individuals. It's not about love and hate, it's about perspective.

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I think most of the angst is badly misplaced and people need to see how things play out and then decide. Critics are always the most loud, but that never makes them right just annoying. Now those who make reasoned arguments are fine, but it's a losing battle since you can't argue with the writers. It's canon now and to them at least it made sense.


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Im not sure myself, most of the reasons given are I think just assumptions of things that they think a princess needs to do or just seem silly on the grand scale of things. Twilights gonna need to leave her friends! Why? Really why? Shes the princess of magic and friendship the one of the points of the episode was how important they were to her, why would she need to leave them behind? Shes super powerfull and not equal to her friends anymore the rest of the ponies have become less important! Um no they haven't the episode made a whole point  to show how important they are. They are the elements of freaking harmony without one of them the others are useless. In order to wield the magic of friendship she needs the support of the others and its that same support that allowed her to ascend in the first place. Let me ask you this did Luke being a jedi mak Han Solo or Leia less important?  It was a blatant marketing attempt by hasbro! Yes and so is the entire show. The entire inclusion of now loved characters was directly Hasbros doing. You like Cheerilie, Scootaloo, and Sweetiebelle? How about Rarity getting wings which actually does bring up a few problems in the episode? But that's entirely ignored. There was no foreshadowing that this could happen at all! Yes there was. Lauren had planned on Twilight taking the thrown since the beggining as she says in the Brony Doc. Notice how her Element is a crown whilst all the others are necklaces. The very fact that Twilight was Celestia's apprentice and remained as such. The progression of her character suggested she was building up to something. In the pilot ep she realized that friendship was important in that realization she discovered the elements of harmony. In Return of Harmony Twilight had to be reminded of its importance but in turn then reminded all of her friends, this was brilliant as it showed progression in the first ep it was her friends that showed her the importance of friendship now she needed to show them. Then of course there was the mysterious book and "shell be ready" bit from crystal empire. It seems everyone has forgotten that a lot and I mean a lot of people were saying "she gonna be an alicorn" it was pretty much the first speculation everyone was thinking. So how bad could the set up had been if everybody saw it coming, heck people were predicting it back in season one and two. Whilst the exact physical transformation was not shown to be possible beforehand it seemed clear to me they were building up to something big Twilicorn was among some possibilities I thought of. Funny enough I dismissed Twilicorn on the basis that I didnt think the show staff or Hasbro would make such an obvious physical change to a main character. I was wrong and to be honest Im glad I was. 

Really I think a lot of it spawned from that fake reddit rumor. You'll notice if you go back that the discussion of the possibility of alicorn Twilight was far more calm and well reasoned. Then a rumor comes out puts a negative spin on it for the very purpose of getting people riled up and unfortunately it worked. I think this has led to an extreme negative confirmation bias. Of all the negative reviews I have seen almost none of them go into any dept on the meaning of the songs or the way they are visually conveyed. Most of the time they are skipped over either saying "well the songs are good" or displaying distaste of them briefly. In a musical you've just skipped over most of the episode. Many miss the word destiny and don't take that into account. All I can say is that I feel bad for the staff, they put in a ton of work to get that episode to where it was and it was spoiled in more ways than one. 

That's not to say I haven't seen reasons I don't understand. Some just dont like the change or the feeling of such a change. 

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Yeah, I don't get it either. It's an old topic now - and quite frankly, I feel that it's been "overhyped". While I enjoy the concept, I'm not sure that I would really want her to become a princess. Either way, I'm going to trust the writers on this one. They've proven to be very good at what they do so far! :)

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I like Twilight being an alicorn (although I will miss her as a unicorn, I have to admit), so I think the hate for it is unnecessary.

I agree with you.I miss also the twilight unicorn and also why the hate? I think that is because the Season 3 wasn't what they expected,example: Episode 13 should be 2 parts, also the episode was soo fast like the things happen so fast why they did more slowly? 

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I think it's fear that there's changes ahead that could be either good or bad.  Thing is, I don't see Twilight becoming an alicorn as a change but as an addition.  Like a few members said, fanfics are good to explore things like death of a major character or sexuality or anything that's sort of a 180 of what you'd expect from the show.  Well, what about Twiacorn is a 180 in terms of the show?  What has been changed?  Okay, Twilight's no longer a unicorn, there's that.  But she's still going to live in Ponyville or at least make many visits to Ponyville, she's still going to hang out with her friends, she and the others will still be Celestia's personal attack squad for when a big bad strikes Equestria, and she'll still be there for when her friends have to solve some kind of dilema in only 22 minutes.  I'm sure there will be episoes where Twilight is whisked away on royal business and I guarantee you season 4 will be same as usual once it's over.  And if I'm wrong, well it couldn't have been forseen just by giving Twilight wings.

 

Only thing that I see being different is that there will be moments where Twilight is whisked away from the others on business, which I kinda like.  Forcing the mane six to sporadically seperate if only for a short while would force characters to greater cherish their time together.  That fits with the show, right?

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This is why you cannot understand it. It's not hate. It's a differing opinion.

 

I've typed my views in a long, well-though out, and explanatory way that states my point and supports it with facts and also acknowledged the views of the opposition but I still get viewed as a "hater." Why is this?

 

Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not make them a hater. Whether you realize it or not, this is what you are doing. This also applies to many other things, such as when somebody doesn't like the show. Okay, cool. They don't like it. I see times way too often when people call them "haters" and "trolls." It's pretty saddening actually to see the close-mindedness I've seen by this fandom.

 

All in all, stop looking at people who don't like the Twilcorn as "haters" and recognize their opinions and views with the same validity you view your own.

 

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This is why you cannot understand it. It's not hate. It's a differing opinion.

 

I've typed my views in a long, well-though out, and explanatory way that states my point and supports it with facts and also acknowledged the views of the opposition but I still get viewed as a "hater." Why is this?

 

Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not make them a hater. Whether you realize it or not, this is what you are doing. This also applies to many other things, such as when somebody doesn't like the show. Okay, cool. They don't like it. I see times way too often when people call them "haters" and "trolls." It's pretty saddening actually to see the close-mindedness I've seen by this fandom.

 

All in all, stop looking at people who don't like the Twilcorn as "haters" and recognize their opinions and views with the same validity you view your own.

 

/endrant

Would you elaborate on just what in tarnation you're complaining about?  You're the only person I've seen in this thread mention haters.

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You are correct that there are plenty of fanfics that depict Twilight as an alicorn even before it happened in the show but there are plenty of things that work out great in fanfics but really wouldn't work in the show so that is not really the best argument. While there are plenty of people that are against her becoming one no matter what, while I have criticized twilicorn quite vigorously I am not one of these people.

 

I am against twilicorn because it is way too soon, does not have nearly enough character buildup to justify it and was handled very poorly in a rushed season finale which puts her dangerously close to Mary Sue territory. I would have supported the idea if it was done properly and was timed correctly, of course now that it is said and done as much as I was against I do still ackowledge that it can work as long as Hasbro lets the writers do their jobs.

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I do not hate Princess Twilight Sparkle, but i did hate the episode she was in. I admit to hatting musicals- its already enough that they have a song in just about every episode. I really do wish they don't do them ALL like this now.


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I think most of it comes from people jumping to conclusions, true or not. A large portion of the complaints I've seen are towards things it "will" cause that haven't happened, probably won't happen, and the staff have even shot-down a lot of them.


 

 

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Im not sure myself, most of the reasons given are I think just assumptions of things that they think a princess needs to do or just seem silly on the grand scale of things. Twilights gonna need to leave her friends! Why? Really why? Shes the princess of magic and friendship the one of the points of the episode was how important they were to her, why would she need to leave them behind? Shes super powerfull and not equal to her friends anymore the rest of the ponies have become less important! Um no they haven't the episode made a whole point  to show how important they are. They are the elements of freaking harmony without one of them the others are useless. In order to wield the magic of friendship she needs the support of the others and its that same support that allowed her to ascend in the first place. Let me ask you this did Luke being a jedi mak Han Solo or Leia less important?  It was a blatant marketing attempt by hasbro! Yes and so is the entire show. The entire inclusion of now loved characters was directly Hasbros doing. You like Cheerilie, Scootaloo, and Sweetiebelle? How about Rarity getting wings which actually does bring up a few problems in the episode? But that's entirely ignored. There was no foreshadowing that this could happen at all! Yes there was. Lauren had planned on Twilight taking the thrown since the beggining as she says in the Brony Doc. Notice how her Element is a crown whilst all the others are necklaces. The very fact that Twilight was Celestia's apprentice and remained as such. The progression of her character suggested she was building up to something. In the pilot ep she realized that friendship was important in that realization she discovered the elements of harmony. In Return of Harmony Twilight had to be reminded of its importance but in turn then reminded all of her friends, this was brilliant as it showed progression in the first ep it was her friends that showed her the importance of friendship now she needed to show them. Then of course there was the mysterious book and "shell be ready" bit from crystal empire. It seems everyone has forgotten that a lot and I mean a lot of people were saying "she gonna be an alicorn" it was pretty much the first speculation everyone was thinking. So how bad could the set up had been if everybody saw it coming, heck people were predicting it back in season one and two. Whilst the exact physical transformation was not shown to be possible beforehand it seemed clear to me they were building up to something big Twilicorn was among some possibilities I thought of. Funny enough I dismissed Twilicorn on the basis that I didnt think the show staff or Hasbro would make such an obvious physical change to a main character. I was wrong and to be honest Im glad I was. 

 

Really I think a lot of it spawned from that fake reddit rumor. You'll notice if you go back that the discussion of the possibility of alicorn Twilight was far more calm and well reasoned. Then a rumor comes out puts a negative spin on it for the very purpose of getting people riled up and unfortunately it worked. I think this has led to an extreme negative confirmation bias. Of all the negative reviews I have seen almost none of them go into any dept on the meaning of the songs or the way they are visually conveyed. Most of the time they are skipped over either saying "well the songs are good" or displaying distaste of them briefly. In a musical you've just skipped over most of the episode. Many miss the word destiny and don't take that into account. All I can say is that I feel bad for the staff, they put in a ton of work to get that episode to where it was and it was spoiled in more ways than one. 

 

That's not to say I haven't seen reasons I don't understand. Some just dont like the change or the feeling of such a change. 

I like Twilight. She was one of my favourite characters when I first began watching the series. I could accept her as an alicorn princess if it made sense.

 

I don't see my biggest problem with Twilicorn or the season finale listed in your rebuttals. Destiny is extremely disturbing, and I wonder if it is easy to forget that destiny means the same thing as fate and the absence of free will. I want someone to prove that destiny doesn't exist in Equestria or that it is a wonderful thing to be embraced.

 

My second biggest problem is also lacking in your refutations. What did Twilight do to deserve becoming an alicorn Princess? She used a voice-activated faulty spell without studying it or asking for guidance, had help returning things to normal, added some lines to someone else's spell, was blasted by the Elements of Harmony, and POOF! Alicorn Princess. Ignoring the other illogical happenings, what about the events prior to Twilight ascending are different from normal? Is Equestria like a MMORPG where by repeating the same actions over and over, you level up? Supposedly, Twilight did something never done before, and understood friendship. If anytime someone did something new and understood friendship, I think we should be seeing a strangely high amount of Princesses in Equestria.

 

While it's been rumoured that Twilight won't leave either her friends or Ponyville (I forget which), it was a rumour. Tara Strong also said Twilight wouldn't become an alicorn. I strongly doubt all the adventure will conveniently come to Ponyville.

 

Twilight was told she was able to ascend because she displayed all the qualities of a Princess, qualities suspiciously similar to the Elements of Harmony, minus leadership. I wonder if she can wield the Elements single-handedly, now? Also, power imbalances do affect relationships. I like this show for depicting realistic, identifiable personalities. If well written, the characters should respond believably. Also, Luke being a Jedi just proved how nearly useless Leia was. The jedi are always more important and powerful in the Star Wars movies compared to everyone else. I'm not sure what you meant.

 

Hasbro meddling was handled well by the DHX team in the past. It was easy to suspend disbelief over Rarity's wings because we were immediately told they were temporary and delicate. I like the show not because it is a marketing ploy, but because it is entertaining. If Hasbro mandates clash with the show too much, of course I'll complain and stop watching.

 

That foreshadowing can easily be interpreted in different ways. While Twilight wears a crown, that does not necessarily mean she will be a Princess, alicorn, or ruler. It may simply mean she/her element have leadership over the other elements. Yes, Twilight displays leadership, but so do Rainbow Dash and Applejack. Lauren is no longer in control of the show. Twilight could easily be seen as Celestia's magical apprentice rather than a political one, as Celestia does make it clear she has a powerful gift that needs focus and study. Character growth is important for everyone. The mysterious book with stars and swirls, and 'she'll be ready' bit from Crystal Empire could have meant many things other than Princess/alicorn/ruler.

 

The Reddit rumour is inapplicable to me. Maybe someone else has thoughts on that.

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I like Twilight. She was one of my favourite characters when I first began watching the series. I could accept her as an alicorn princess if it made sense.

 

I don't see my biggest problem with Twilicorn or the season finale listed in your rebuttals. Destiny is extremely disturbing, and I wonder if it is easy to forget that destiny means the same thing as fate and the absence of free will. I want someone to prove that destiny doesn't exist in Equestria or that it is a wonderful thing to be embraced.

 

My second biggest problem is also lacking in your refutations. What did Twilight do to deserve becoming an alicorn Princess? She used a voice-activated faulty spell without studying it or asking for guidance, had help returning things to normal, added some lines to someone else's spell, was blasted by the Elements of Harmony, and POOF! Alicorn Princess. Ignoring the other illogical happenings, what about the events prior to Twilight ascending are different from normal? Is Equestria like a MMORPG where by repeating the same actions over and over, you level up? Supposedly, Twilight did something never done before, and understood friendship. If anytime someone did something new and understood friendship, I think we should be seeing a strangely high amount of Princesses in Equestria.

 

While it's been rumoured that Twilight won't leave either her friends or Ponyville (I forget which), it was a rumour. Tara Strong also said Twilight wouldn't become an alicorn. I strongly doubt all the adventure will conveniently come to Ponyville.

 

Twilight was told she was able to ascend because she displayed all the qualities of a Princess, qualities suspiciously similar to the Elements of Harmony, minus leadership. I wonder if she can wield the Elements single-handedly, now? Also, power imbalances do affect relationships. I like this show for depicting realistic, identifiable personalities. If well written, the characters should respond believably. Also, Luke being a Jedi just proved how nearly useless Leia was. The jedi are always more important and powerful in the Star Wars movies compared to everyone else. I'm not sure what you meant.

 

Hasbro meddling was handled well by the DHX team in the past. It was easy to suspend disbelief over Rarity's wings because we were immediately told they were temporary and delicate. I like the show not because it is a marketing ploy, but because it is entertaining. If Hasbro mandates clash with the show too much, of course I'll complain and stop watching.

 

That foreshadowing can easily be interpreted in different ways. While Twilight wears a crown, that does not necessarily mean she will be a Princess, alicorn, or ruler. It may simply mean she/her element have leadership over the other elements. Yes, Twilight displays leadership, but so do Rainbow Dash and Applejack. Lauren is no longer in control of the show. Twilight could easily be seen as Celestia's magical apprentice rather than a political one, as Celestia does make it clear she has a powerful gift that needs focus and study. Character growth is important for everyone. The mysterious book with stars and swirls, and 'she'll be ready' bit from Crystal Empire could have meant many things other than Princess/alicorn/ruler.

 

The Reddit rumour is inapplicable to me. Maybe someone else has thoughts on that.

Destiny and free will can exist in tandem in a complex way. It is complex in a way but then so are some of the concepts presented. A ultimate end goal may be there and various factors may pull you towards that end goal, but in the act of choosing you may actively negate ever reaching it. In Star Wars there is destiny, the Jedi make predictions that are often accurate however it is mentioned that the future is ever flowing and moving and hard too see at times, meaning some perceived end goals may never come to pass. So you can have a ultimate end goal that has been foreseen and you are being pulled towards, but negate it with choice and end on a different path. Twilight almost did this were not for Celestias guidance she may never have reached the intended end goal. Though even through that guidance she was offered a choice and chose that path. Had she not she could have been like Star Swirl a great amazing pony indeed, but he could have been much more. Whilst the true nature of Destiny is ambiguous what can be inferred is that it is not one end goal in mlp. It is the entire course your life takes as when the destinies of the ponies were switched they held the memories and occupations of the other. Though destiny has been a part of mlp since season one. Cutie Mark Chronicles in particular indicated as such, with there being a connection between the main six before most of them had met. Twilight's glowing eyes indicate it even stronger as its the same glowing that takes place through the elements of harmony activated by the connection of friendship a connection which was being established before they even met. Not to mention the fact that ponies names correlate to their talents and traits which intern correlate to their cutie marks. Unless you posit ponies have a different naming system which is possible (though we did see ponies are named at birth) then it seems cutie marks are tied to a destiny of sorts. 

 

The whole point of her transformation was reaching an heightened or ultimate understanding of friendship. The spell was just the/an application of that understanding. This was the fulfillment of her character arch. In the pilot she realized that friendship was important to her and in doing so activated the elements of harmony. In return of Harmony she had to be reminded, but then she ended up reminding her friends who had woke her up to friendships importance to begin with this was a major progression. Finally in Magical Mystery Cure she reached a point where she didnt need to learn anymore, she realized to power of friendship and enacted the plan where together as friends they could help each other reconnect the elements to the pony's and the ponies to the elements. Twilight realized that the harmony of friendship was needed to re-establish the connection to the elements a connection that she discovered to begin with and now fully comprehended. Its like a spiritual awakening that allows one to ascend. The fandom from the start compared alicorns to gods, but it seems now they are more akin to a buddah. Its not about doing something new, its about obtaining an ultimate understanding of something that usually pertains directly to the pony's talent. In Twilight's case she strived to study and understand magic putting off friendship. She came to understand it was important and in itself a form of magic and dedicated herself to the study of it.Until finally she understood it as the most important thing to her and an ultimate form of magic.

 

Yes you could interpret the foreshadowing in different ways perhaps. Does that make it horrible? I don't think so. Twilight's crown, her being the apprentice to Celestia, Her development in learning the ultimate magic of friendship, and all he season three hints. All taken together can easily lead on to the princess conclusion, and it did, the most favored and mentioned theory I saw after season three premier was alicorn Twilight. Heck it a theory I saw many calling all the way back in 2011. There is the type of foreshadowing that mentions the outcome outright, Luke will become a Jedi, Goku a Super Saiyian, and Ang a fully realized avatar. Then there is the more subtle forshadowing that throws out visual and audio ques. The former has you constantly anticipating an event you know will happen. The latter leaves room for guessing but can easily lead you to the correct conlusion. Is either one bad? I dont think so, its a matter of preference. The whole purpose of mentioning Laurens intent was to point out that the intent was there from the begining to make her a princess(originally queen) so those elements are most likely intented to be elements foreshadowing that. 

 

Also how were Han and Leia useless? They didnt have the force, but they can hardly be called useless. Luke didnt just bust in and rescue everyone single handed they were all involved. Luke didnt destroy the empire alone all the characters had their part to play. This is even more clear as you get into some of the expanded universe. 

 

All I can say is that before the rumor discussion on the possibility was far less heated and more reasonable. At least on all the places I went on . 

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Wow, never thought my first post would be about Twilicorn. So here is why Twilicorn is complete garbage (and I hate it), there is this character type in literature called a Mary Sue. Twilight is coming very, very close to fitting the requirements like a glove to become a Mary Sue (There are people that already think she is one). Think about it lately Twilight has had any of her character flaws pretty much dealt with by the end of season 3, she is the most powerful character we know of to date (nix Discord), and on top of it all she became a Princess for no reason.

Unfortunately I can't back this next part up with clear evidence, but I think that Lauren maybe didn't have Twilight ridding herself of these flaws. Instead I think that Laruen wanted to keep these flaws but have her succeed anyway. Seeing a character that has flaws and has to work against them is much more entertaining than say Twilight singing a Celine Dion song while looking at rain and then instantly knowing what to do.

Another thing is when Lauren was around Twilights magic was way harder.  but in season 3 she can just do Gravity spells and almost do age spells... Seriously who thought of that, at the rate she is going she can just make all her friends immortal anyway, so i guess that the whole "she'll out live her friends" arguement is answered by more magical over-poweredness.

TL;DR Case and point Twilight is becoming a bad character (alicorn) and I may recieve a lot of heat for that, but I can at least explain why she is bad.

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Yeah, you guys have made some good points. I too read some good fanfics but wouldn't want them to be canon. But still, Twilight growing wings isn't as far-fetched as a character dying or crossovers or sexual fanfics. (I don't read clopfics but that's just an example)


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So much of this "hate", concern, whatever comes from fans thinking they know better than the writers, which they don't. That doesn't mean the fandom doesn't have good ideas, or smartly written stories, or wondeful art/music because clearly it does. The truth is TV is not democracy, it is a benevolent dictatorship, and that's OK. The writers have a few goals: pleasing the target demographic, pleasing the Hub/ Hasbro, pleasing the casual brony, pleasing themselves (I hope), and finally pleasing the hardcore bronies. This later task is impossible, and thankless, because you can't please everypony. We are too critical and too disparate in what we want. Not a bad thing, but it is true. I put many of us in the hardcore bronies group and we may think that since we are the squeaky wheel we should get the most "oil", but trust me that the writers don't. Honestly they can't think that way. I suggest keeping an open mind and make the change work for you however you need to. Many of us have an escape button if we don't like the ride through your own creativity or others, so remember that and enjoy. Most viewers are just along for the ride.

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Think about it lately Twilight has had any of her character flaws pretty much dealt with by the end of season 3, she is the most powerful character we know of to date (nix Discord), and on top of it all she became a Princess for no reason.

I think the reason why it seems as if Twilight has little to no character flaws is because her character flaws tend to come out a bit more in slice of life episodes and there weren't any this season that focused very heavily on her, come to think of it aside from the intro and finale there weren't any episodes in season 3 period that focused much on her which makes the alicorn transformation that much more jarring and pre mature.

 

As to her current power level, we have no idea how powerful she is after her transformation and won't know until season 4 but we do know that before her transformation that she was indeed one of the most powerful beings in Equestria but still not as powerful as Celestia and Luna. We know that she got a major power boost from her transformation but the question is how much of a boost, how long will it take her to learn to control it? How these and other matters are handled will determine whether or not Twilight will become a Mare E Sue as I half jokingly half seriously put it.

 

Yeah, you guys have made some good points. I too read some good fanfics but wouldn't want them to be canon. But still, Twilight growing wings isn't as far-fetched as a character dying or crossovers or sexual fanfics. (I don't read clopfics but that's just an example)

Though it is unlikely they will directly address it other than the subtle hints they gave in Apple Family Reunion the writers have confirmed that Applejack's parents are dead so characters dying in show in not completely farfetched even if they won't directly address it. And sex is of course a topic they are even less likely to address because it is a kids show, but I think it is safe to assume that the ponies probably do have sex even if it never mentioned in the show. Though I will admit that many clopfics are a tad unrealistic there are also some out there that are actually plausible if sexual relations was a theme in the show, it really depends on the fic and the author.

 

 

 

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I think the reason why it seems as if Twilight has little to no character flaws is because her character flaws tend to come out a bit more in slice of life episodes and there weren't any this season that focused very heavily on her, come to think of it aside from the intro and finale there weren't any episodes in season 3 period that focused much on her which makes the alicorn transformation that much more jarring and pre mature.



While I agree that her flaws do come out more in slice of life episodes, after "Games Ponies Play" and "Lesson Zero", I really can't name any flaws that she hasn't already solved (i.e. Obessiveness in "Lesson Zero" and stress control is that awful episode "Games Ponies Play").

As to her current power level, we have no idea how powerful she is after her transformation


 

I was meaning more of before her transformation. I mean there are no entities that we know of that could even come close to Twilight's power level, I mean source AGE spells, we don't even know if Celestia can cast an age spell. What's more is she has the Rouge-like power to copy basically any ability she sees, i.e. Dark Magic. I doubt (though this is speculation) that even Celestia has the ability to copy magic on a whim.

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I think the fact that she is able to control her weakness is a good thing. Should we not all strive to better ourselves and deal with our weak points? Nopony is perfect but likewise nopony should be a constant basketcase either. There has to be a middle ground between too perfect and too flawed. I would argue that each princess is badly flawed including Twilight, but that does not mean they can't do their jobs or be respected.

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