What if Twilight Sparkle was Bad (evil)

[Cwanky 17,579]

The Twilight Sparkle we've all come to know now has indeed evolved a lot over the course of 3 seasons of Friendship is Magic. And how as the title itself says! She not only made new friends, she learned far more than books could teach and she had to make decisions big and small with far reaching consequences.

 

But let us consider for a moment. What if Twilight Sparkle was bad. Or perhaps she became bad, whether by choice or otherwise. We already saw 2 distinct characters that in many ways mirror Twilight:

 

Sunset Shimmer and of course

 

The Great and Powerful err Trixie Lulamoon.

 

Both, aside from being unicorns and skilled magic users, are in many regards the mirror opposites of what Twilight is. Both are obsessed with power and fame. Shimmer seeks power to exploit it for her own selfish gains as opposed to using it responsibly to h lookielp others like Twilight. Trixie flaunts herself and her skills alienating others and seeking attention, while Twilight seeks to befriend others and is rather humble about her own abilities. This is further evidenced in the Crystal Heart book where Twilight is tempted and tricked by Trixie and Gilda as to how to rule as a princess.

 

So the question here is what would Twilight have been like had she been bad? Or perhaps if she somewhere down the lines fell from grace. We know that Sunset Shimmer, although not canon in FIM, was another former student of Celestia as well. Seeing as how Twilight will be in a position of power and wielding power greater than she ever has before in season 4, this will be a concept worth exploring. 

[Zygen 6,066]

I can't see Sunset shimmer in her current state being nearly as awesome.

 

I mean sure shes got a cool color scheme, but Twilight is just, awesome.

 

Not to mention Adorkable, and maybe I've just come to love her so much, but regardless I think shes a way better character then sunset shimmer.

 

But Idk its hard to imagine her as Celestia's pupil and Twilight evil.

 

Twilight wouldn't be quite as developed and wouldn't be as awesome probably.

 

Idk its hard to think about, but Idk, I can't see Twilight being actually evil ever, it goes against her character really, so I don't know how I can effectively imagine her that way, and sunset or even trixie taking her place.

[~StatesTheOblivious~ 1,795]

Not necessarily evil, but perhaps she will make a mistake that can easily interpreted as being an evil deed. Not intentioned, but happening because she understood something wrong.

 

And I think it would be very contradictory to the show's preise if the protagonist turns really evil. That's something for stories that are only for more mature audiences, not something like FiM.

[Demirari 454]

  If Twilight Sparkle turned evil? Well the first thing she'll probably do is to use her intelligence to try to overthrow Princess Celestia. Lock up rest of the main six and generally be a evil pony till some 'chosen one' comes and brings back peace and friendship to Equestria. Thats what I can think. (Pretty cliche isn't it?)

[Durandal 623]

Twilight is smart and sharp as a hero, and I would expect that pragmatism would carry over to any dark side. However, she is not always far-sighted. As a result, I believe her success would be a mixed bag - her pragmatism would make her a formidable, intelligent opponent that would give any villain we've seen a run for their money, but I imagine her short-sightedness may be her demise.

 

The reason I consider her short-sighted is her strict adherence to rules, principles, etcetera, when normally it could be considered more beneficial to break them. This adherence to codes and principle would land her in the Lawful Evil category, and likely as a Noble Demon, or perhaps simply someone so obsessed with rules that it becomes her fault.

 

That said, the most likely scenario for a fall from grace is a mental breakdown. Twilight's patience and sanity are sometimes delicate. If something were to shatter either with enough intensity, she may leap into the Moral Event Horizon. This Twilight would be broken, and therefore unstable and chaotic. She might be pragmatic, but most likely she would have become too insane to remain an effective villain.

[Planty 1,053]

I just cant see this ever happening!

 

Shes so absorbed in her friends, seemingly more so then anyone else (s2 e1/2) i just think she relies on them to much .

 

If she did go evil, she would want everything to be orderly, i think she would be something like a reverse discord, and do it more out of OCD then anything like the reasons NMM did.

[ReverseFaller 2,483]

I think it'd be interesting to say the least. She seems like she wouldn't be the type of evil pony who'd want to take over Equestria. I can just see her being a paranoid, crazy hermit living in the middle of the Everfree forest. 

[--Thunder Bolt-- 534]

Then...then I'd have to pick a new favorite pony.

 

 

 

Idk its hard to think about, but Idk, I can't see Twilight being actually evil ever, it goes against her character really, so I don't know how I can effectively imagine her that way, and sunset or even trixie taking her place.

 

On the other hand, Too Many Pinkie Pies.  Twilight (and her friends!) can kill without remorse.  She has, by far, the highest body count in the show.  She would make a very formidable villain.  In Lesson Zero, she created a mind-control spell that almost wrecked Ponyville by accident.  What if she wanted to control other ponies on purpose?  In Keep Calm and Flutter On, we learned that Twilight's books contained numerous mind control er, "reform" spells, enough for Discord to make a whole meal out of.  What else does she have in those books of hers?  After Magical Mystery Cure, she has access to a spell that can alter cutie marks.  Could she use it to swap cutie marks with Celestia, and seize control of the Sun?

 

She'd probably have a hard time dealing with Discord though, unless she could zap him with her anti-Pinkie clone spell by surprise.  Since it worked on Pinkies en masse, and Pinkie is arguably the being closest to Discord in nature and power, it might work against him.  Like him, Pinkie can break physics, but the Pinkies could not stop the spell or shrug off its effects and return.  Plus, that spell has quite a high rate of fire.  If alicorn Princesses aren't immune (something Evil!Twilight would definitely research in advance), she could wipe out the Equestrian royalty in less than a second. 

 

Furthermore, the Elements of Harmony could not be used against her because she has the key Element...and whatever Scary Demon Powers it might be able to confer upon her.

 

So...yeah.

[Dr. Love 88]

Since she's literally the most overpowered character in the show now I don't see how anyone would even be able to rival her abilities, she could do anything she wanted to, because magic, the only thing that could possibly beat her is bad writing like I've unfortunately been seeing a lot of lately. 

[Zygen 6,066]

Then...then I'd have to pick a new favorite pony.

 

 

 

 

On the other hand, Too Many Pinkie Pies.  Twilight (and her friends!) can kill without remorse.  She has, by far, the highest body count in the show.  She would make a very formidable villain.  In Lesson Zero, she created a mind-control spell that almost wrecked Ponyville by accident.  What if she wanted to control other ponies on purpose?  In Keep Calm and Flutter On, we learned that Twilight's books contained numerous mind control er, "reform" spells, enough for Discord to make a whole meal out of.  What else does she have in those books of hers?  After Magical Mystery Cure, she has access to a spell that can alter cutie marks.  Could she use it to swap cutie marks with Celestia, and seize control of the Sun?

 

She'd probably have a hard time dealing with Discord though, unless she could zap him with her anti-Pinkie clone spell by surprise.  Since it worked on Pinkies en masse, and Pinkie is arguably the being closest to Discord in nature and power, it might work against him.  Like him, Pinkie can break physics, but the Pinkies could not stop the spell or shrug off its effects and return.  Plus, that spell has quite a high rate of fire.  If alicorn Princesses aren't immune (something Evil!Twilight would definitely research in advance), she could wipe out the Equestrian royalty in less than a second. 

 

Furthermore, the Elements of Harmony could not be used against her because she has the key Element...and whatever Scary Demon Powers it might be able to confer upon her.

 

So...yeah.

Well its debatable if she actually kills them, it just sends them back to whatever is on the other side of the mirror pool, which could be anything from a twisted diminsion, to just a flipside of ponyville, or whatever.

 

Other then that she hasn't really killed anyone in the show as far as I remember, she has dealt some injuries to some I suppose, but no killing technically. I guess its possible Sombra died, but technically that was Spike the crystal ponies and cadence.

 

She is very powerful though, if she still realized her potential and got her cutie mark even as an evil version of herself she would be one crazy nasty villain. 

 

Of course she wouldn't have acess to the elements even if they are useless to her really. Its even debatable whether she'd have the ablity to use them anyways. And maybe another bearer would be choose who knows.

 

She wouldn't be able to defeat Discord in my headcannon, since I believe that Discord can only be stopped by the EOH because of them being the reverse of him. But she would be quite a devastating villain.

 

I assume her Anti Pinkie Clone spell doesn't work on anything but clones, so it'd be useless, but i'm sure she could eventually learn some other magic, or even use dark magic like Sombra.

 

Also I don't think the Elements of harmony give her demonic like powers like it did sunset unless its brought into the opposite world. The way I see it since it wasn't stated exactly what bringing an element into another world did, I assume it reverses the power in a sense, and instead of it being an Element of harmony, its an Element of disharmony or something along those lines, which is why it corrupted Sunset when she used it.

 

I suppose since Twilight was its bearer already or something it didn't do that to her in that world, i'm not sure on that part.

 

Regardless I don't think it'd do anything for her, but she'd still be quite the villain.

[TheSupremeLeaderOfChaos 1,206]

I think it would be really awesome if Twilight, or if one of the other main six, turned evil, most likely by some outside evil force, and the other 5 had to find a way to bring them back to good. That would be a really interesting episode. It would just be awesome. The ways they could change their color schemes and character designs would be so cool.

 

I would also love the conflicts that would be created if this happened. Every evil version of the Mane 6 would have such a different conflict with themselves. If Twilight was evil, I think she would lapse into the way she was before the NMM episode. Except evil. It would be awesome, if done right.

[--Thunder Bolt-- 534]

Well its debatable if she actually kills them, it just sends them back to whatever is on the other side of the mirror pool, which could be anything from a twisted diminsion, to just a flipside of ponyville, or whatever.

 

I'd like to believe this, but the animation of the pool shows Pinkie stepping in, the world flips, and she's stepping out with a duplicate.  There's no "there" there to send clones "back" to.  The animation of the spell shows the Pinkie clones inflating and blowing up, so it doesn't offer a lot of hope that they got "sent somewhere else" where they could continue living.  Twilight said she sent them "back to the mirror pool."  Judging by what we see, that would be like if you used magic or nanotechnology or whatever to make fully sapient clones out of the materials in a landfill, then somebody "sends them back to the landfill" by turning them back into the raw materials they were made out of.  That would kill the clones.

 

 

Other then that she hasn't really killed anyone in the show as far as I remember, she has dealt some injuries to some I suppose, but no killing technically. I guess its possible Sombra died, but technically that was Spike the crystal ponies and cadence.

 

Yeah, Projectile!Cadence is the only other character in FiM with a body count that we've seen in the show.   So far the score is Twilight: ~30, Projectile!Cadence 1.

 

 

She wouldn't be able to defeat Discord in my headcannon, since I believe that Discord can only be stopped by the EOH because of them being the reverse of him. But she would be quite a devastating villain.

 

I assume her Anti Pinkie Clone spell doesn't work on anything but clones, so it'd be useless, but i'm sure she could eventually learn some other magic, or even use dark magic like Sombra.

 

The premise of the episode is that the spell she used against the Pinkie clones could work on non-clones, the original Pinkie Pie in particular, hence the need for a test to try to sort the original out from the others.  It's an open question whether or not the spell would work on someone who has not been through the mirror.  If not, Evil!Twilight might have to try to trick Discord into going through it to duplicate himself ("You'll be able to cause even more chaos!"), then zap the Discords as they emerge.

 

Also I don't think the Elements of harmony give her demonic like powers like it did sunset unless its brought into the opposite world. The way I see it since it wasn't stated exactly what bringing an element into another world did, I assume it reverses the power in a sense, and instead of it being an Element of harmony, its an Element of disharmony or something along those lines, which is why it corrupted Sunset when she used it.

 

I've only watched EG once, but I don't recall it being stated that taking the Element of Magic to the other world changed the nature of its powers.  IIRC, Sunset just said that she'd learned things about the Element of Magic that Twilight hadn't, as a way to intimidate Twilight by pointing to herself as the "better student."  Even if she couldn't use it to enhance her magic, her mere possession of it would prevent the other Elements from being wielded effectively against her, since they apparently have to be used in concert. 

 

Another thing to note is that the Element of Magic is the most morally neutral of the Elements.  The others all represent virtues associated with friendship, but magic is simply a power that can be used for good or ill.

[SCS 7,537]

I believe that the character of Sunset Shimmer in Equestria Girls is a good indication of what Twilight Sparkle would be like if she had gone down the wrong road - but before she had become truly evil and corrupted to a deep extent. 

 

In fact, all of the major villains so far seem to be antitheses of particular characters. In my opinion:

 

Nightmare Moon is the antithesis of Princess Luna. They are both the same pony, but in different stages of her life in which she made different choices. She became Nightmare Moon when she chose darkness, and she returned to being Princess Luna through a combination of the Elements of Harmony healing her, Princess Celestia reaching out to her in kindness, and her own free will. While Nightmare Moon used the night for evil by making it permanent to torment others, Luna used the night for good by guarding Equestria during it, and raising its moon.

 

Discord was the antithesis of Pinkie Pie, before he became good. When Discord was evil, he used reality altering magic to make jokes at the expense of others. Pinkie Pie uses her reality altering magic usually to make others laugh, intentionally or not, or for other harmless purposes.

 

Queen Chrysalis is the antithesis of Princess Cadence. While Chrysalis used her magic to suck the love out of a pony, and use it for energy, Princess Cadence uses her own energy to spread light and love to others. 

 

King Sombra is the antithesis of Princess Celestia. While both are incredibly magically powerful and talented, Sombra chose the path of hatred, and Celestia chose the path of love. Sombra is to dark magic, as Celestia is to light magic.

 

Sunset Shimmer is the antithesis of Princess Twilight Sparkle. While both were Princess Celestia's pupils at some point in time, they both had free will. Sunset Shimmer chose darkness, and Twilight Sparkle chose light.

Edited July 27, 2013 by SCS

[H.P.Lovecolt24 107]

Twilight becoming evil almost happened in the comics... I was kind of hoping to see her transformed into a life draining changeling even for just a moment. but that would have been too good to be true.

[Scootalove 10,689]

I think that if Twilight Sparkle was evil she would relate more to Sunset Shimmer than Trixie since, Sunset Shimmer used to be Celestia's protege before her and she went down the dark road to evil. So, it would make more sense to have Twilight more like Shimmer but not like the one from the movie more of a different interpretation of her and try to defeat her friends to overthrow Princess Celestia.

[RrVPfX9cPtw59FpC 1,304]

If she had been bad, she would've killed everyone during her advanced studies exam, including Celestia. She would've started ruling Equestria and become a monarch, eventually killing everyone. And they say MLP is a children's show....

[Darklight_Dazzle 0]

i am not twilight i am so much more powerful i am darklight dazzle fear my name 

[Singe 2,111]

Twilight Sparkle's evil counterpart would be like a mad wizard. Someone obsessed with increasing their magical knowledge and ignore the ethical limits of magic. She could literally look to any means necessary to extend her life span, become immortal, or become a lich to continue her knowledge obsession.

Kidnap ponies to be used to her ends.

Edited August 21, 2017 by Singe

[Guest]

Never going to happen unless some magic forces her to or something. 

Evil Twilight sure sounds scary though.

[heavens-champion 1,905]

Human Twilight turning into Midnight Sparkle gives me an idea of what an even Twilight would be like.

[Castle Bleck 19,356]

23 hours ago, heavens-champion said:

Human Twilight turning into Midnight Sparkle gives me an idea of what an even Twilight would be like.

 

So Evil!Twilight would basically be a female Janemba?

[heavens-champion 1,905]

1 hour ago, A.V. said:

 

So Evil!Twilight would basically be a female Janemba?

Except she can talk.

[Sparklefan1234 170,594]

 

I'd like to see Twilight Sparkle  become corrupted by dark magic via another botched spell in the

Season 8 Finale with the Remane 5 & Starlight Glimmer needing to work together to save

Twilight Sparkle in the end.

Edited November 14, 2017 by Sparklefan1234

[Singe 2,111]

There is no one variation, Twilight Sparkle counterpart could be like Lina Inverse if written that way.

[Prospekt 11,018]

Before the series is over, I think it would be cool to see a pony Midnight Sparkle. Make it like the Nightmare Rarity arc in the comics. Though it could be difficult for the alicorn Twilight to become jealous enough to fall under the influence of Nightmare Moon's essence. Season 1 Twilight might have been susceptible. I'm not so sure about Season 8 Twilight.