gaming Game Discussion: Which is worse? Shadow the Hedgehog or Sonic 06

[Geek0zoid 1,468]

Both Sonic 06 and Shadow the Hedgehog are infamous in the Sonic fanbase. Now, I have met people who like these games. If you like them, I won't hold that against you. I'm just saying that the enjoyment that I get out of these games is delivered in extremely small quantities.

But, the question still remains; which is the worse game. Most would probably say Sonic 06. But, for me, it's Shadow the Hedgehog. (Hey, at least in 06, you don't have to play through the game 10 times to get the real ending.)

[Chain Combo 135]

Shadow's game is worse. I at least got a few laughs watching silver chuck sonic into outer space and saying, "IT's NO USE!" In sonic 06. Shadows game was a headache.

[Moonlight 7,288]

I liked both of them...so what? Sue me. 

But, I will say Shadow the Hedgehog, despite him being my favorite character. The graphics somehow got worse, too much replaying, some missions gave me trouble, still had glitches, and some other things. The music was AMAZING though. 

 

EDIT: After thinking it over...Sonic '06 was worse and it has my vote. Shadow's game was kind of okay, I suppose. But Sonic '06 was just a mess to me. >.>

Edited August 3, 2013 by WheatleyCore

[Smarts 1,623]

I kind of liked Shadow the Hedgehog...yeah. Both had many many problems, but I still say Sonic 06 was worse. At least Shadow was kind of fun. I liked the idea of doing the good, evil, or neutral missions to determine which levels you play. That was nice. The addition of guns and vehicles was really dumb. I don't know what Sega was thinking. He didn't need any of that. There were also glitches and whatnot, but I was able to still find some enjoyment with the game.

 

Sonic 06 was just one big mess. At least with Shadow the Hedgehog, there was some sort of enjoyable gameplay. Sonic 06 didn't have any of that. Glitches up the bum with this game. More so than with Shadow the Hedgehog. Everything about 06 was horrible and just made me question whether Sega really did know what they were doing because it didn't seem like it.

Edited August 3, 2013 by SmartyPants

[Scootalove 10,689]

I never really got to play Shadow the Hedgehog but, I did get a chance to play Sonic '06 and it was definitely a very terrible game. Shadow the Hedgehog probably at least had some effort put into it.

[Cloby 16]

Sonic 06 is the worst.

 

IN Shadow the hedgehog, at LEAST they tried to make a videogame. But in Sonic 06... they didnt try. All the programing is horrible, the hole game was made without trying or fixing any errors, the gameplay and controls is a nightmare and the story is terrible.....

[Viscra Maelstrom 3,718]

i never played Sonic 06, so i can't comment on it. i have, however, 100% Shadow the Hedgehog, so i'd say i'm liable to talk about the game's qualities.

 

it's... okay. it's got an interesting idea, merging gunplay and mission-based gameplay with Sonic platforming. thing is, it's not executed very well: the problem being due to the flow. in the first mission, you're kickstarted into doing either 3 things: killing all the Black Doom aliens, getting to the end of the stage, or killing all of the police forces. and it's... a bit too much to take in. i'd say that the second level in the neutral path of the game would be a better starting point, since it's a lot more free-roaming and fun to play.

 

as for the gameplay, as most 3D Sonic games, it's buggy. you can get stuck and fall through floors in places, although it seems to have improved over Sonic Heroes. the gunplay is kind of fun, but due to the inherent nature of Sonic gameplay, just interrupts the flow of the game.

 

the missions in the game range from getting to the end of the stage, to time-based gameplay, to kill all the good/evil dudes in the game. the endings for each path you get are basically recycled in some way, the only "true" ending being after you unlock the final stage of the game.

 

the story is teen-age Shadow angst still pondering about his path, with visions of a young girl plaguing his conscience. it's not bad, but it's not exactly thrilling either. it's "just there".

 

for what's it worth, it's... okay. it's certainly PLAYABLE from start to finish, though whether your sanity lasts that long depends on how hardcore a Sonic fan you are. it's certainly got some level of enjoyment in it, but is flawed quite a bit (like most 3D Sonic games are).

 

so, is it bad? well, yes. but it's not a COMPLETE steaming pile of horseshit, at least.

[Celtore 2,770]

This... is my evidence.

 

 

I think it's pretty conclusive. While Shadow the Hedgehog was plagued with problems regarding certain gameplay elements (such as the inclusion of guns and vehicles), I don't think anyone can excuse stuff like this in a big sonic title. Sonic 06 simply wasn't ready for release, which I think is a shame. It could have been a really fun game if they had bug tested it, optimised the loading and delayed it for a few months to iron out some issues.

 

There is also the awkward fact that this game pretty much wiped itself out of canon creating several massive time paradoxes...

Edited August 18, 2013 by Celtore

[Megas 27,787]

Sonic 06 is borderline unplayable, full of bugs and glitches(potentially game breaking ones at that), bad controls, horrid loading times and one of the most ridiculous stories ever(and I don't mean it in a good way)

 

I give Shadow the Hedgehog a lot of crap, but at least it's playable

[Geek0zoid 1,468]

This... is my evidence.

 

 

I think it's pretty conclusive. While Shadow the Hedgehog was plagued with problems regarding certain gameplay elements (such as the inclusion of guns and vehicles), I don't think anyone can excuse stuff like this in a big sonic title. Sonic 06 simply wasn't ready for release, which I think is a shame. It could have been a really fun game if they had bug tested it, optimised the loading and delayed it for a few months to iron out some issues.

Yes. The fucking loading screens.

If you like loading screens, play Sonic 06. They take up half of the fudging video game, anyway.

Sonic 06 is borderline unplayable, full of bugs and glitches(potentially game breaking ones at that), bad controls, horrid loading times and one of the most ridiculous stories ever(and I don't mean it in a good way)

 

I give Shadow the Hedgehog a lot of crap, but at least it's playable

[Mr. Critical 434]

Sonic '06. I actually had fun with shadow the hedgehog even though the story was jumbled together. Sonic '06 is unplayable and I purged every trace of this game.

[Radiance64 7,053]

Never played Sonic '06 but it does look pretty bad from what I've seen.

I can tell you from experience that Shadow is pretty bad though, don't remember it extremely well but I don't remember it being very fun.

Sonic Heroes was also pretty crappy.

[Geek0zoid 1,468]

I kind of liked Shadow the Hedgehog...yeah. Both had many many problems, but I still say Sonic 06 was worse. At least Shadow was kind of fun. I liked the idea of doing the good, evil, or neutral missions to determine which levels you play. That was nice. The addition of guns and vehicles was really dumb. I don't know what Sega was thinking. He didn't need any of that. There were also glitches and whatnot, but I was able to still find some enjoyment with the game.

 

Sonic 06 was just one big mess. At least with Shadow the Hedgehog, there was some sort of enjoyable gameplay. Sonic 06 didn't have any of that. Glitches up the bum with this game. More so than with Shadow the Hedgehog. Everything about 06 was horrible and just made me question whether Sega really did know what they were doing because it didn't seem like it.

Actually, Sonic 06 would've been awesome if Microsoft and Sony weren't so god dang impatient. It's their fault that 06 is what it is.

Edited August 3, 2013 by Stevenearthpony

[Moonlight 7,288]

 

 

Everything about 06 was horrible and just made me question whether Sega really did know what they were doing because it didn't seem like it.

 

Personally, I thought Shadow's missions in the game were pretty stupid. >.> Most had to do with a vehicle which was just odd to me. Silver's was a mess, while Sonic's was...okay? That's the nicest I could say about the story modes. Even playing co-op with my friend caused some serious glitches...one where Shadow got stuck in the air and I had to take the game out.   

So, I might switch my choice to Sonic '06 now that I think about it. 

[Crestfallen 27]

I really like both of them however I play Sonic 06 way more than Shadow the Hedgehog. I just didn't find Shadow the Hedgehog as fun as I thought it was gonna be but I loved the music. Although I believe I got more pissed at Sonic 06 than Shadow the Hedgehog while playing it. Even so I think the most I've played of Shadow the hedgehog is like a half hour because tbh I got bored with it. I played Sonic 06 for a few hours at least.

[Discordian 6,015]

I will not discuss which is worse between the two but merely state that I like Shadow more.

 

I don't generally concern myself with how buggy a game is unless it prevents me from playing the game period which Sonic 06 did not and Shadow was far from. I have this weird thing where if a game has something SUPER terrible about it I leave it out of my judgement until I beat the game and find out if it was worth putting up with to the end and I found in 06's case that was absolutely true. As frustrating as those final levels were with the "SUCK UP EVERYTHING" orbs and the crappy physics engine I'd say it was one of the most epic final levels in Sonic history. I haven't played it since I first got my PS3 (it was my first PS3 game, no joke) so maybe it's due for a replay. My memory is pretty foggy about most of the story and levels.

 

I don't care how unfinished the game is, as a total package it's totally worth it.

 

The only real problems I had with Shadow are the shooting mechanics which I felt should have been a little more manual or at least had a hard lock-on mechanism (note: THIS IS NOT A COMPLAINT ABOUT SHADOW HAVING GUNS. I RATHER LIKED THE GUNS I GOT TO USE IN THE GAME) and also the fact that there are over 300+ paths with different ending titles........but nothing changes in the game itself when you complete them and I feel that was wasted potential. (Or at the very least a waste of my time even though I got 100+ paths done before I got sick of the game)

 

I think Sonic 06 is due for a replay. Those loading times are hellish to wait through and if it weren't for that I'd have replayed the game sooner. I would go so far as to say that if it weren't for the loading screens Sonic 06 would easily place as one of my top Sonic games, even moreso without the bugginess. I just had such a blast with that game I'd have to fool myself into believing the bugs and loading times had any affect on how fun that game was.

 

I started Sonic Adventure 2 the other day and I plan to replay through that, Heroes and then Shadow so I'll probably move on to 06 after that and maybe try to finish my Unleashed HD playthrough. (I like the SD version soooooooooooooo much more but I wanna see the end of the HD version cuz I hear it's totally different from the end of the SD one.)

Actually, Sonic 06 would've been awesome if Microsoft and Sony weren't so god dang impatient. It's their fault that 06 is what it is.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it wasn't JUST the rush that made the game what it was. It was that in combination with some of the pivotal developers leaving the team at the same time which caused the game to go largely unfinished. I truly believe that if they remade it or at least patched it the game would at least be playable but that's not ever going to happen with Sega trying to take the games that didn't do very good (like 06) off of store shelves a few years ago. It means they abandoned 06. It's really too bad there wasn't a PC version cuz then at least some crackpot developer could probably fix the issues with a mod.

Edited August 3, 2013 by Discordian

[Kapi 215]

Sorry, but I really don't like Shadow the Hedgehog.

 

I've played 06, and the worst part of it was the story, I HATED it. Seriously, I hated the story of 06, with the sole exception of Mephilies doing something in one minute that Ronutnik couldn't do for 15 years. The only other thing is the loading times, while terrible, I can be very patient. I've only encountered a handful of glitches, really no more than any other 3D game.

 

Shadow, meh, I don't like the gameplay, I don't like the mechanics, I don't like the story--the only thing I like about it is the music, most Sonic fans can agree on one thing, even if the game blows, the music is awesome.

 

Here's how I see it, see when StH came out, they already had a game for the consoles it was released on (Sonic Heroes) while they didn't have any games for the PS3 or 360. They had to start fresh, of course things don't always work out the first time through. StH really din't have an excuse, there was a SOLID game behind it, good graphics, story, and gameplay. To me, StH was hacked together, it just doesn't "work" for me, where 06 might have glitches and bugs, it still "feels" like a Sonic game to me. It was still enjoyble, and I had a good time playing it. Annoying, sure, but so is Omochao, and I don't hate him...

[CornBreadGang 514]

Am I the only one here who thought that Shadow the Hedgehog was a good game?

Anyways, Sonic 06 is way worse.

At least in my honest opinion.

[GameytheGeemer 147]

I liked both of them ('06 only because I bought it for 2 bucks so I liked all of the glitches for a cheap game. If I bought it for 60-40 bucks than it would be flat out hell).

Shadow is more fully constructed, and while it's buggy at points it still is playable.

'06 was just released a full year before development was complete because of pressure from the fans.

Shadow's story was all right. It wasn't great, but it was good.

And '06, I loved that story. Above all else I loved Mephiles, as he was broken as fuck to kill Sonic.

 

Over all, if you paid a lot of money for either of these games you got ripped off, but I've played them and they were great time wasters.

[~Silver Essence~ 2,625]

Shadow the hedgehog no doubt about it.

 

While sonic 06 had major flaws, being horribly programmed, and overall a terrible game, the music, parts of the gameplay, and designs were pretty great.

[GameytheGeemer 147]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CdcaRMMOeg

I stumbled across this a bit ago, and I like this. It points out that basically '06 had a physics engine that they just didn't tune at all.

[Marthy 15]

Both games are atrocities.

 

One tries too hard to be Adventure 3, but fails horribly in doing so because of rushed development, awful character models and idiotic story.

 

And the other tries too hard to be so "dark and edgy" with ZOMG GUNS and VIOLENCE.

 

Hopefully, Sonic Lost Worlds will be the game that redeems the bad reputation Sonic has had for all these years.

[Geek0zoid 1,468]

Both games are atrocities.

 

One tries too hard to be Adventure 3, but fails horribly in doing so because of rushed development, awful character models and idiotic story.

 

And the other tries too hard to be so "dark and edgy" with ZOMG GUNS and VIOLENCE.

 

Hopefully, Sonic Lost Worlds will be the game that redeems the bad reputation Sonic has had for all these years.

At least Sonic has begun to rise again. I mean, we got games like Sonic Colors (Or Colours if you're Canadian) and Sonic Generations.

I'd say Sonic's in a decent place these days.

Edited October 1, 2013 by Stevenearthpony

[PoisonClaw 8,166]

Sonic 06 is worse, no contest. With Shadow, you can at least see that there was an attempt to make a good game and for the most part the game works as it was meant to. It still isn't a good game by any stretch, especially considering the "alternate endings" mean jack squat in the grand scheme of things and the fact that you had to play through the game multiple times with no option to skip missions you already beat is clearly an effort to artificially lengthen the game, but it still manages to not break the cardinal rule of video games in that is can still be somewhat fun and enjoyable at times.

 

Sonic 06 on the other hand... ugh. I refuse to call this...this...thing a game because it breaks every law of gaming there is: it's boring, long, unfairly frustrating for no reason, littered with glitches that occur from just normally playing the game as it was intended, the story makes no sense even disregarding the plot holes and inconsistencies and finally, most heinously of all, it isn't fun. I play a game to have fun, so if it can't even get that right then as far as I'm concerned it is a complete and utter failure from the start. Hell, the only fun I've ever seen anyone get from Sonic 06 is from laughing at how much of a disaster it is. 

[SomariFeyWright 776]

I personally think the Secret Rings is worse than both of these, but I digress.

 

Sonic '06, though I will easily consider it an overhated game, is definitely the worse of the two. While the Shadow and especially the Silver story were interesting, the game was covered in glitches, unfinished concepts, and so much lost potentials. Not to mention, while I don't necessarily hate Elise, she was a terribly made character, at least outside of her design. Not to mention, the unnecessary kiss in there.

 

Shadow the Hedgehog personally sickens me to the stomach, but good god, it really is playable. The control scheme of the mix between running and guns, though unnecessary, was definitely solid. The development of Shadow the Hedgehog was clearly put into consideration when making the game, and it went DEEP to introduce us to Maria and Shadow's past. The music was solid, the voice acting was decent, I'd even argue that the morality portion of the game wasn't THAT bad. But just as Luigi's Mansion was denied the right to be a T-rated game, darkness like what this game presented is far outside of any boundaries Sonic the Hedgehog should ever reach. And at least the original Luigi's Mansion was still intended to be funny; Shadow the Hedgehog is the most dry, no-comedy game that may ever exist. Not a single light moment in there. Even when there IS humor, it's at how laughably forced the side characters are put into the plot.

 

Case in point, Shadow the Hedgehog. Worse as a Sonic game, superior as a game.