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How did Subset know to steal the crown of Twilight in the first place?


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Maybe it's because it's still early as fuck and I still haven't woken up quite yet, but looking at the “Fall of Sunset Shimmer” comic and the EQG movie, it seems some things don't exactly add up. In the comic, Sunset's seen sneaking into Celestia's restricted Dark Magic library, after Celestia having shown Sunset the portal mirror. Sunset discovers a book called “Canterlot castle. A History”, which tells of the mirror opening every 30 moons. Sunset's goal was to become an alicorn princess, like the mirror's reflection showed her. But how would Sunset know to steal Twilight's crown, which contained the element of magic, if 1: Sunset was the apprentice of Celestia before she took Twilight in, and Twilight ever even heard of/ got the elements, 2: Sunset read about the other world beyond the portal, and found out that she could become as powerful as an alicorn princess in the alt world, then did how did Celestia have record of that in that book? (did she have an apprentice before Sunset Shimmer, who passed through the mirror, and also became a demon, as powerful as an alicorn princess, after harnessing the power of a single EoH?)

 

Bonus: What other titles of the books in the Library can you guys make out? (panels 1 & 3)

(I see “War of the Zebras”, “Origins of the Everfree Forest”, “The Ponytale(?) Horror”, “_____ Hill Horse”, “_______ Cannibalism”, “True Tales of Trotsylvania”, “Lovecolt”, “13 Ghosts”, “The Cruel (?) Horseshoes”, “Quantum Physics”, “Zebra magic”, “Crossing Over”, “The First Ponies”, “There is More than One of Everything”, “Who Said the ________”, “Crisis of Infinite Equestrias”, “Memento Mori”, “Who was _______”, “ZFT”, “The __________”, “Infamous Cemeteries of Equestria”, “Kelpies”, “The_________”, “The Mare in Black”, “Exorcoltism”, “____________ Titans”, “_________ of Canterlot”

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There is a possibility that there have been more than two appertinces under Celestia's mentorship.

 

Two ways that Sunset could have known about the crown.

 

1. Princess Celestia tipped off Sunset by sending her a message as part of a greater plan which will never be revealed. Rainbow Rocks confirms that those two still had a way to communicate.

2. Sunset Shimmer is able to use clairvoyance magic to a degree, but is never revealed.

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There is a possibility that there have been more than two appertinces under Celestia's mentorship.

 

Two ways that Sunset could have known about the crown.

 

1. Princess Celestia tipped off Sunset by sending her a message as part of a greater plan which will never be revealed. Rainbow Rocks confirms that those two still had a way to communicate.

2. Sunset Shimmer is able to use clairvoyance magic to a degree, but is never revealed.

well, personally I wouldn't doubt it. Celestia's lived a long time, and must've come across other extremely magically gifted unicorns to take in as apprentices. Though, what are the chances that at least one of those apprentices had to have been in Sunset's situation before- being impatient, finding the book, and going into the AU for the events to have been recorded in the book before Sunset shimmer's time?

 

what plan would that possibly be, where Celestia had to use the book she and Sunset had, though, to bother informing her of what new apprentices she took under her wing, and what magical artifacts they possessed? I can't see any possible reason for that to have occurred.

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well, personally I wouldn't doubt it. Celestia's lived a long time, and must've come across other extremely magically gifted unicorns to take in as apprentices. Though, what are the chances that at least one of those apprentices had to have been in Sunset's situation before- being impatient, finding the book, and going into the AU for the events to have been recorded in the book before Sunset shimmer's time?

 

what plan would that possibly be, where Celestia had to use the book she and Sunset had, though, to bother informing her of what new apprentices she took under her wing, and what magical artifacts they possessed? I can't see any possible reason for that to have occurred.

 

Setup Sunset Shimmer and Twilight Sparkle to meet. Twilight Sparkle uses the elements of harmony to purify Sunset of her corruption.

 

Given the past history of Celestia and Sunset, it's very embarrassing that Celestia gives up and kicks Sunset Shimmer out when she's teaching Twilight about friendship.

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The entire movie made no sense.

 

Why did the Mane Six go to the Crystal Empire? How did Sunset Shimmer know about the crown when she left before the elements of harmony were found again? How did Sunset Shimmer know when to steal the crown? 

 

We never knew exactly why the Mane Six went to the Crystal Empire. In fact, they were useless. (Though if Twilight took Rarity's advice, they wouldn't have been in the mess.) 

 

That is a major reason I hated the first movie. There were way too many plot holes. 

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Maybe because when sunset shimmer saw her reflection into the mirror, she saw her vision of becoming a demon possessing the power of the element of magic, she's studying when she's still celestia's pupil and like twilight she in fact this lead to discover the elements of harmony and this may be the key why sunset shimmer knew what the crown look like,and when the portal open, she was surprised and didn't know that she's in the crystal empire and tried to open every door in the castle and yet she found what she's looking its the crown that possess a powerful magic

Sunset shimmer knew twilight's crown it's because when she saw her self into the mirror ,she saw her vision on becoming a demon wearing a crown and possessing a powerful magic ,when she was still a pupil of celestia, just like twilight she discovered the elements of harmony and it's power and she was amaze,and the time after that sunset shimmer abandoned her study with twilight and by the time sunset return back to equestria she's ready to get it but she saw an image of twilight sparkle of having the crown and she seek for it, finally she saw the crown and by any chance she replaced with a fake crown, so by the time they noticed, it will too late for them to get it from sunset shimmer.

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  • 3 months later...

Yet again, a problem in story writing of Equestria Girls the first movie. Subset did have quite a lot of power to get from the EQG world to the pony world and back again. But Twilight couldn't even take her friends with her, because limits in the portal. I mean, how did Subset even know all of this, and make it back to the school, just to somehow lose the crown to the Princess Prom thing.... The first Movie is not that great >_>

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