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They ARE worried. If you look at Celestia and Luna in the clip.

 

Nah.  I watched the clip several times.  They don't look worried at all.  They bow to Twilight, and they're kind of just standing there.  Cadence's expression is likely because she's still fatigued (hence the slightly messed up hair).  If they had been worried, they would have said something or met Twilight outside of the room in private beforehand.

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Nah.  I watched the clip several times.  They don't look worried at all.  They bow to Twilight, and they're kind of just standing there.  Cadence's expression is likely because she's still fatigued (hence the slightly messed up hair).  If they had been worried, they would have said something or met Twilight outside of the room in private beforehand.

You can't be sure about that. Why would they be frowning at a new baby? I highly doubt the Princesses are shallow to the point of being upset at appearances alone.

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Because there is obviously a problem here maybe? Because they have other duties, or because going to the CE from Canterlot simply wasn't workable on the given daY? Any number of reasons.

 

 

But, even the writers have said that no Alicorns are born, except Tia and Luna.

 

I really hope that something is really, really, wrong and it isn't a stupid Dumbo plot.

You know there's other possibilities besides "horribly wrong" and "Dumbo".

 

Also writers can change their minds.

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You know there's other possibilities besides "horribly wrong" and "Dumbo".

 

Also writers can change their minds.

Particularly if a toy company forces them to.

 

And no. No possibilities that I agree with. What, she's a normal alicorn with no catch? Or they give some grand destiny to a new character when there is still a lot to be done with the ones we know and love? They make her like Korra where she has to use great power responsibly? If she is a legitimate, normal Alicorn, the story possibilities are garbage.

 

I just thought of one thing that's okay I guess, and that's Alicorn lore. But it is stupid to destroy Alicorn lore in order to make new Alicorn lore, and ruins continuity. If you want to make Alicorn lore, keep the lore we have and then add new stuff.

 

But the point is, having "special" children be born is done a lot of times, and most of times that special children were born, the show started tanking to try and accomodate the suddent introduction of a new vastly important baby.

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You know.....it would help if we had more context here, watch S6 is all just context for this.

 

Kinda of a old head canon I had for a while, but what if Alicorns are an ancient race that was here before the three tribes claimed Equestria and the princesses are trying to rebuild it via who they deem "worthy".


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I'm still debating whether or not to watch Season 6, but I must say that I like the foal's color scheme. As for cuteness, I suppose she does have some "D'aww" factors. 


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Now that I am thinking about it, the fact that we got this preview of episodes this early, maybe the season will be airing a lot sooner than we think.

Currently I am thinking it is going to premiere in March.


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ok, since I'm too lazy to read all of those 9 pages, I'll just assume that no one brought up what I am about to bring up.

 

*ehem*

 

are we not going to talk about the fact that flurry heart being an alicorn is actually bringing up a shitton of questions again? I thought alicorns would be created by some kinda god-force when they discover powerful magic, but now, it seems like they can breed like any normal pony. if that's the case, Alicorns would become common for Equestria, and for myself, I say that this would suck. also, all of the Alicorns that existed since now are princesses. they all have their titles and responsibilities. but what will flurry heart do now? will she live in a world were she is kinda like that one son of will smith no one is ever talking about? I mean, all the others of her kind will be powerful and important individuals, but flurry heart herself? what about her? and my greatest question, again, is: are. Alicorns. immortal? I know, I know, it was said that Twilight, even though she's an alicorn, "won't outlive her friends", but that just means that maybe the other ones will become alicorns too. or that twilight dies. meh, probably the first one.

 

but the thing that is really bugging me is the fact that flurry was born an alicorn. as I said, this just doesn't fit the picture we have had from alicorns. also, why the heck does she have such humongous wings? scootaloo will probably go bat-shit crazy once she sees her...


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I already think that there's 2 too many alicorns in the show, so I'm not exactly enthusiastic about Cadance and Shining Armor having an alicorn baby. Maybe if the show could go deeper into the lore of the alicorns, but then I'll wonder why it took 6 seasons to even attempt a small explanation about them.

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I already think that there's 2 too many alicorns in the show, so I'm not exactly enthusiastic about Cadance and Shining Armor having an alicorn baby. Maybe if the show could go deeper into the lore of the alicorns, but then I'll wonder why it took 6 seasons to even attempt a small explanation about them.

I think Flurry Heart will be the catalyst to explore more of the alicorn lore, being, as far as we know, the first alicorn-born pony since Equestria foundation. The only other thing know about alicorns, is that there was a settlement in where is now known as Canterlot according to the Journal of the Two Sisters before the founding of Equestria, but they left shortly after Celly and Luna were picked to be trained to rule the other tribes. Supposedly, the upcoming 100% pony movie will feature many alicorns according to leaked drafts, including:

Cosmos, another sibling of Celly and Luna as the main antagonist

 

Take note that these are subject to change, since those were leaked around 2014, but I doubt the alicorns will be unexplored in the final product

 

Now that I am thinking about it, the fact that we got this preview of episodes this early, maybe the season will be airing a lot sooner than we think.

Currently I am thinking it is going to premiere in March.

Makes sense, we'd be probably wait for another year from S5 finale if not were for the summer-ass hiatus just in the middle of the season


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If she is a legitimate, normal Alicorn, the story possibilities are garbage.

That is not an objective fact. That is your opinion.

 

I've always believed that there were two kinds of alicorns. Natural and ascended. And I've always liked to think of them being a legitimate RACE far, far back in Equestria's history before some unknown cataclysm wiped most of them out. And they don't ALL have to have powers that bend nature to their will. None of this is set in stone, and I like it that way. I like promoting creativity.

 

The fact that natural born alicorns can come from ascended alicorn parents is interesting. I'm just hoping for something kind of matter of fact. Yes she is a born alicorn. Yeah, that's unexpected, but hey, whatever. She can do some great things when she gets older, but it doesn't have to be THE GREATEST OF ALL THE THINGS. She'll find her place in the world.

 

And you know, if ascended alicorns are a relatively new phenomenon, then them having children is something that could have results know one knew of before. Nothing is "wrong" per say. The possibility just never crossed anypony's mind.

but the thing that is really bugging me is the fact that flurry was born an alicorn. as I said, this just doesn't fit the picture we have had from alicorns. also, why the heck does she have such humongous wings? scootaloo will probably go bat-shit crazy once she sees her...

 

It only doesn't match up with SOME people's pictures.

It's been said from the very beginning, since the days of Faust, that Luna and Celestia were BORN as alicorns. So there are born alicorns and ascended alicorns. I believe that alicorns were more common a long, long time ago, but the died out for the most part. And since alicorn ascension is a relatively new phenomenon, there's no precedent dictating that their children won't be able to be born as alicorns.

 

Also I love her giant @$$ wings. She's like Dumbo.

I'm imagining her wrapping herself up in them when she goes to sleep at night. XD


 

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That is not an objective fact. That is your opinion.

 

I've always believed that there were two kinds of alicorns. Natural and ascended. And I've always liked to think of them being a legitimate RACE far, far back in Equestria's history before some unknown cataclysm wiped most of them out. And they don't ALL have to have powers that bend nature to their will. None of this is set in stone, and I like it that way. I like promoting creativity.

 

The fact that natural born alicorns can come from ascended alicorn parents is interesting. I'm just hoping for something kind of matter of fact. Yes she is a born alicorn. Yeah, that's unexpected, but hey, whatever. She can do some great things when she gets older, but it doesn't have to be THE GREATEST OF ALL THE THINGS. She'll find her place in the world.

 

And you know, if ascended alicorns are a relatively new phenomenon, then them having children is something that could have results know one knew of before. Nothing is "wrong" per say. The possibility just never crossed anypony's mind.

 

It only doesn't match up with SOME people's pictures.

It's been said from the very beginning, since the days of Faust, that Luna and Celestia were BORN as alicorns. So there are born alicorns and ascended alicorns. I believe that alicorns were more common a long, long time ago, but the died out for the most part. And since alicorn ascension is a relatively new phenomenon, there's no precedent dictating that their children won't be able to be born as alicorns.

 

Also I love her giant @$$ wings. She's like Dumbo.

I'm imagining her wrapping herself up in them when she goes to sleep at night. XD

 

As an update to my stance on this- there is in fact a whole Tribe of natural Alicorns. That said, an Alicorn does not need to be royalty. Also royalty does not need to be an Alicorn. Th Princesses of Equestria (except for theis freak) had special destinies, and a special connection through the tree of Harmony. Further, their connection to the Tree of Harmony puts them in a class all of their own.

 

After learning this, I can say that there are two main kinds of Alicorns- born and ascended. Being ascended requires doing things far beyond the capabilities of other ponies. Born Alicorns are more powerful than normal ponies, but Twi, Tia, Cadence, Luna (henceforth will be known as the Harmonious Alicorns) have a special connection to the Tree of Harmony, which makes them even more powerful than normal Alicorns.

 

All of that said, and knowing born Alicorns DO exist in canon, then my opinion has shifted. I will be okay with Princess Fluffernutter if they make her separate from the Harmonious Alicorns. She is just an Alicorn, and isn't special in any particular way. Or, maybe something is wrong with her. That's okay by me too.

 

Two things I absolutely do NOT want to see is 1) a Dumbo plot or 2) some Chosen One nonsense. I want there to be a catch, or I want her to be just a normal Alicorn, and not included in the special class that the other 4 are in.

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People need to remember, Skyla is a toy only. She has no ties with the show, not really a connection to Cadance and Shining Armor, and was made solely to sell another princess toy. Hasbro does this...ALOT.

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Seeing as how the journal of the two sisters outright stated that the alicorns are a combo of earth, unicorn, and pegasi ponies and are supposed to represent everything Equestria was founded on- love, harmony, and friendship between the 3 tribes, i'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say the new princess was born an alicorn by the Tree of Harmony's will.

 

Simply put: she's going to be princess of Harmony, since Twilight is princess of Friendship, Cadance is princess of Love, and the only element missing from the 3 races founding is harmony, as stated in the previous paragraph.

 

I'm willing to bet that many answers as to the new princess will be provided by the Tree of Harmony itself, seeing how it IS sentient, and has already given Equestria its EoH (and very likely, the Crystal Heart as well) as means of defense, foretold long on advance that Luna and Sunbutt held some importance, provided Twi with understanding of its friendship magic, bestowed a castle to her, etc.

 

The Tree will answer any questions we have in due time. All we need do is wait.

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Seeing as how the journal of the two sisters outright stated that the alicorns are a combo of earth, unicorn, and pegasi ponies and are supposed to represent everything Equestria was founded on- love, harmony, and friendship between the 3 tribes, i'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say the new princess was born an alicorn by the Tree of Harmony's will.

 

Simply put: she's going to be princess of Harmony, since Twilight is princess of Friendship, Cadance is princess of Love, and the only element missing from the 3 races founding is harmony, as stated in the previous paragraph.

 

I'm willing to bet that many answers as to the new princess will be provided by the Tree of Harmony itself, seeing how it IS sentient, and has already given Equestria its EoH (and very likely, the Crystal Heart as well) as means of defense, foretold long on advance that Luna and Sunbutt held some importance, provided Twi with understanding of its friendship magic, bestowed a castle to her, etc.

 

The Tree will answer any questions we have in due time. All we need do is wait.

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No darn "Princess of Harmony". The whole point is that Friendship IS Harmony. The Elements of Harmony are comprised of the qualities needed to sustain friendship. Since the Elements represent Friendship, then Friendship IS Harmony.

 

And by the Tree of Harmony's will? Do you see her Cutie Mark on it? As far as the tree is concerned, the required players to maintain Harmony are already in action. Further, this is exactly the kind of Chosen One plot that the show doesn't need. Adding a Chosen One plot into a show this late never goes well. Something as important as a Chosen One needs to be done from the start, and even then it's such an overdone trope. The show needs to stay fresh, and new. If she is some kind of almighty saviour, that is literally the worst way to incorporate her into the show.

 

And anyways, there are plenty of Alicorns who don't mean anything. I highly highly doubt that Tia and Luna's entire tribe was composed of important world changers. The point of that statement was to highlight that Alicorns are perfect for Neutrality, and nothing more.

 

I am not fanatical enough that the Alicornness alone will drive me away. But if they take a plot that's done a buhmillion and one times, I'm going to have major issues. No more Chosen Ones. No more all-powerful characters that are literally ALL of the magic powers at once. This is what we call an inherently horrid trope. Borderline Mary Sue-ness.

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But if they take a plot that's done a buhmillion and one times, I'm going to have major issues. No more Chosen Ones. No more all-powerful characters that are literally ALL of the magic powers at once. This is what we call an inherently horrid trope.

 

I hate to break it to you, but the whole premise of Friendship is Magic has been done and overdone millions of times. What you're concerned about (seeing overused tropes in the show), that ship sailed in the second episode of the series.

 

Do you see her Cutie Mark on it?

 

No, because she doesn't HAVE a Cutie Mark yet.  I seriously doubt she's going to be some kind of 'chosen one'.  Even if she is, at this point there have been so many tropes that it probably wouldn't make a difference to me.  Especially since they'd introduce it, it would happen, and then they'd go onto something else immediately afterward.  Having a possible 'chosen one' at this juncture is the least of what they've done.

 

In the words of Linkara:  We've seen this before in the show.  Magical artifacts, 'chosen ones' (there have been at least six already), and other major plot points get introduced into the show all the time, and they never have any far-reaching impact beyond their initial episode and maybe one or two others, so I'm sure the same will be true for this (and that's IF something like that comes about).

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I don't know if anyone has confirmed that this will be in the season premier, but I personally think that this will happen for the season finale. That would allow several episodes about Shining Armor and dealing with Cadance's mood swings, which could make for both a funny episode and one that could teach younger viewers about relationships. I also think that the finale will be about some evil villain attacking the Crystal Empire (hopefully King Sombra) and Cadance is unable to defend her kingdom because she is about to have the foal. It will probably just be the season premier, but I can dream.

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I don't know if anyone has confirmed that this will be in the season premier,

It's definitely the season premiere, the season and episode number appear in the teaser - 601.


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That is not an objective fact. That is your opinion.

 

I've always believed that there were two kinds of alicorns. Natural and ascended. And I've always liked to think of them being a legitimate RACE far, far back in Equestria's history before some unknown cataclysm wiped most of them out. And they don't ALL have to have powers that bend nature to their will. None of this is set in stone, and I like it that way. I like promoting creativity.

 

The fact that natural born alicorns can come from ascended alicorn parents is interesting. I'm just hoping for something kind of matter of fact. Yes she is a born alicorn. Yeah, that's unexpected, but hey, whatever. She can do some great things when she gets older, but it doesn't have to be THE GREATEST OF ALL THE THINGS. She'll find her place in the world.

 

And you know, if ascended alicorns are a relatively new phenomenon, then them having children is something that could have results know one knew of before. Nothing is "wrong" per say. The possibility just never crossed anypony's mind.

 

It only doesn't match up with SOME people's pictures.

It's been said from the very beginning, since the days of Faust, that Luna and Celestia were BORN as alicorns. So there are born alicorns and ascended alicorns. I believe that alicorns were more common a long, long time ago, but the died out for the most part. And since alicorn ascension is a relatively new phenomenon, there's no precedent dictating that their children won't be able to be born as alicorns.

 

Also I love her giant @$$ wings. She's like Dumbo.

I'm imagining her wrapping herself up in them when she goes to sleep at night. XD

 

As an update to my stance on this- there is in fact a whole Tribe of natural Alicorns. That said, an Alicorn does not need to be royalty. Also royalty does not need to be an Alicorn. Th Princesses of Equestria (except for theis freak) had special destinies, and a special connection through the tree of Harmony. Further, their connection to the Tree of Harmony puts them in a class all of their own.

 

After learning this, I can say that there are two main kinds of Alicorns- born and ascended. Being ascended requires doing things far beyond the capabilities of other ponies. Born Alicorns are more powerful than normal ponies, but Twi, Tia, Cadence, Luna (henceforth will be known as the Harmonious Alicorns) have a special connection to the Tree of Harmony, which makes them even more powerful than normal Alicorns.

 

All of that said, and knowing born Alicorns DO exist in canon, then my opinion has shifted. I will be okay with Princess Fluffernutter if they make her separate from the Harmonious Alicorns. She is just an Alicorn, and isn't special in any particular way. Or, maybe something is wrong with her. That's okay by me too.

 

Two things I absolutely do NOT want to see is 1) a Dumbo plot or 2) some Chosen One nonsense. I want there to be a catch, or I want her to be just a normal Alicorn, and not included in the special class that the other 4 are in.

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Nothing indicates they're super powerful or are royals by blood or anything. The most it's know about them officially, by that book mostly, is that a tribe of them were occupying what is currently Canterlot before the founding, Celly and Luna were from that tribe, and were handpicked by the founders to be their rulers, representing the 3 founding tribes. They vanished shortly, but no mention of why they disappeared. I think the movie will answer those questions, unless they change the script  

 

It's definitely the season premiere, the season and episode number appear in the teaser - 601.

I just wonder if that'll be an Equestria going bonkers partly because of McFlurry, or it'll be the first Slice of Life episode in a premiere

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I think it's funny how if Hasbro slaps some wings AND a horn on a character at the same time, people lose their fucking minds over it like it's the greatest sin ever cast. Another sign that this fandom takes this show waaaaaay too seriously.

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