Daring_Do 552 July 25, 2016 Share July 25, 2016 What if they used real ponies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospekt 11,018 July 25, 2016 Share July 25, 2016 (edited) What if they used real ponies? I saw this a few days ago and I just had to look for it again when I read your post: Not sure how they could put wings on a horse without CG. Edited July 25, 2016 by Prospekt Signature by Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daring_Do 552 July 25, 2016 Share July 25, 2016 I saw this a few days ago and I just had to look for it again when I read your post: Not sure how they could put wings on a horse without CG. You'd be surprised, the kind of prosthetics Hollywood can make. But even if not, just because the wings are CG doesn't mean the whole pony needs to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regent 77 July 25, 2016 Share July 25, 2016 Yeah, I suppose that would work, but forgive me if I'm not completely convinced it would look good. In that Superman pose, her forelegs are attached in a completely different place then when she's walking or standing at rest. Her chest disappears entirely. There's so much geometry that would need to move, shrink, or practically disappear. I think the transition and the end result would look discordant to the eye. I still think that for the most part, 3D characters need to maintain what would be physically possible for them if they existed in real life in order to look good. But I know I still have a great deal to learn about this stuff. Good suggestion, though. Gives me something to think about and play around with. In Father of the Pride, the lions would transition seamlessly from bipedal to quadrupedal anatomies. I don't think a lot of people noticed how different the two forms were, if it is noticed, it's specifically with the main character, Larry, who has a large belly only as a biped, but not as a quadruped. It worked fine technically, even though the show itself failed. In your example, we're talking about the same situation, except Dash is in the air as a biped (superman pose), with all of the associated problems that might bring. Morph targets are commonly used this way, bound to armature conditions, so that the animator doesn't have to invoke them manually with sliders. When it works, it works great. There's also a bunch of other things that can be done in a rig to make this all work out, including the development of specialized plugins and scripts. The eyeballs are the real problem IMO. I think it can be done right... but it's hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolyWack 482 July 26, 2016 Share July 26, 2016 No! or yes. but it can only go two ways: The good way: Or the bad way: And I did use these exact gifs in a topic talking about the movie being live action with CG ponies. Where did you find that first gif? I would very much like to know how the creator made those Fookin Sweet hair effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Fox 5,950 July 26, 2016 Share July 26, 2016 Flash looks awful on the big screen. Maybe that's why so many fans don't like him in Equestria Girls *ba-bump* *tish* :-P Seriously, though, I hope it isn't 3D CG. The Timberwolves looked pretty weird. I hope they stick with the show's usual style. 5 Happy minion of The Fabulous One! Signature by Midnightive Check out my blog! https://mlpforums.com/blog/1083-sunny-side-den/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\/ 651 July 26, 2016 Share July 26, 2016 I'd rather it not devolve into a SFM-looking nightmare. No thank you. Enter the Forest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanOfManyShows 396 July 26, 2016 Share July 26, 2016 (edited) @@SolyWack, I found the top one here: https://derpibooru.org/1147843?scope=scped139d3877cd2c5bdff8a4c4cbb45c24fe2c2dad2. And I found the one below here: https://derpibooru.org/1106982?scope=scpeb4a0ab19cd797c7e227a4999349c503582bd8052 Edited July 26, 2016 by Frannis You have your whole life left, so much to do, so much time to do it. Use it wisely; Because you will never get a second chance. Ocs https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KsjJPI0_DDAFarIByu6GZmrqhUgnKZO5Uu1zC0rXW6w/edit Tumblr:https://special-minds.tumblr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolyWack 482 July 26, 2016 Share July 26, 2016 @@SolyWack, I found the top one here: https://derpibooru.org/1147843?scope=scped139d3877cd2c5bdff8a4c4cbb45c24fe2c2dad2. And I found the one below here: https://derpibooru.org/1106982?scope=scpeb4a0ab19cd797c7e227a4999349c503582bd8052 I'm doing some 3d work myself, so these may help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babyyoshi309 1,829 July 26, 2016 Share July 26, 2016 But if they use CG, non bronies would also find the movie attractive from the trailers, and would go to see it. In flash, only bronies will watch this movie. What? What? What kind of logic is that? Non-bronies are not more likely to watch it if it is CG. Have you ever met a person who dislike MLP because of the animation style? I have not. Every non-brony or anti-brony I have ever heard of always dislikes MLP because of the slice of life plot or the fact that it is about magic ponies. Never have I ever EVER heard of a person who dislikes MLP because of animation style. As a matter of fact, the movie would probably get less views if it were CG, because some people like MLP only because of the animation style. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,851 July 26, 2016 Share July 26, 2016 What? What? What kind of logic is that? Non-bronies are not more likely to watch it if it is CG. Have you ever met a person who dislike MLP because of the animation style? I have not. Every non-brony or anti-brony I have ever heard of always dislikes MLP because of the slice of life plot or the fact that it is about magic ponies. Never have I ever EVER heard of a person who dislikes MLP because of animation style. As a matter of fact, the movie would probably get less views if it were CG, because some people like MLP only because of the animation style. I believe the point he was making was that the modern animated film is more apt to be CG model based, so there is a fair amount of conditioning and expectation. Removing for a moment the 2D animation fans (which I am definitely one of), there is a stronger draw to CG movies for a patron. I wonder if 2D is analogous to 'kids film's in some eyes. Not that the title will already give that implication ... but I digress. That said, they are using Toon Boom and I do expect it to be 2D with some tweaks to the art design. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAnimatorOfficial 567 July 26, 2016 Share July 26, 2016 (edited) Are you kidding? Did you not just see Ice Age flop hard? Viewers don't care about the animation medium. They care about whether the story looks good or not. Edited July 26, 2016 by TheAnimatorOfficial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyPie 86 July 26, 2016 Share July 26, 2016 No, please! Remember, it's made for girls about the age of seven or eight. They probably wouldn't like that kind of animation as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAnimatorOfficial 567 July 26, 2016 Share July 26, 2016 No, please! Remember, it's made for girls about the age of seven or eight. They probably wouldn't like that kind of animation as much. Actually they love CGI. The issue is the film looking like absolute crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosetta Spring 21 August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 I thought it already been confimed to be 2D made in a new better program than flash I'm not saying it can't work in CG cartoon can look great but I personally love HD 2D images they look amazing. I really can't wait for a trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 19,365 August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 I thought it already been confimed to be 2D made in a new better program than flash I'm not saying it can't work in CG cartoon can look great but I personally love HD 2D images they look amazing. I really can't wait for a trailer. I prefer the original style, too. However, this person proves it's not impossible to make 3D work for it: http://creatorofpony.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=/ By Emerald.↑ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Socks 2,599 August 18, 2016 Share August 18, 2016 I wouldn't want it to be. I think the animation is fine how it is, and changing it would be awkward. It won't happen, for many reasons. Especially since the EG movies didn't use it. 1 My OC: https://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/foxy-socks-r9861 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarston1 5,959 August 18, 2016 Share August 18, 2016 I prefer the original style, too. However, this person proves it's not impossible to make 3D work for it: http://creatorofpony.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=/ . If done in that kind of style than I would be okay with it. This is literally the only time I saw visually appealing 3D models of FIM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moony the Cat 3,702 August 21, 2016 Share August 21, 2016 Since i dislike the drawing Style more and more, an " everything else " would be great. Cgi would be awesome, more detailed traditional Animation would be awesome even Puppets would be better but please not the ultra simplistic "save the most Money possible " Style for the Movie... Sig made by Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtytimi 7 August 21, 2016 Share August 21, 2016 (edited) IMO I think this style will be great for a cgi movie since the expression is one of the most important element for the mlp show ;3 Btw , if hasbro make it like the style of Bambi , it would also be ggggrreeeeatttttttt Edited August 22, 2016 by dirtytimi 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAIKUN 262 September 7, 2016 Share September 7, 2016 IMO I think this style will be great for a cgi movie since the expression is one of the most important element for the mlp show ;3 Btw , if hasbro make it like the style of Bambi , it would also be ggggrreeeeatttttttt Wow it would be a good idea like they did it with Un gallo con mucho huevos or Asterix: The Mansions of the Gods or that 2005 Magic Roundabout movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immblueversion 331 September 7, 2016 Share September 7, 2016 We already have evidence that the movie will be 2D-based. There was Tara Strong's post with a cutout of Twilight with a slightly different design: This matches up with a later-revealed model of Sia's character in the movie, Songbird Serenade, who was officially announced at this year's San Diego Comic Con: Really makes me want to see what the animation will be like. With Toon Boom, you can never be quite certain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Duderino 879 September 7, 2016 Share September 7, 2016 Dreamworks and Pixar have managed to make animals look good in 3D while keeping the cartoon look. So why do people think 3D renders of MLP characters often look creepy? The thing is that the characters in MLP were designed with 2D animation in mind. That's partly why 3D versions don't work most of the time (in my opinion). For it to work in 3D, the characters would have to be re-designed with 3D animation in mind. 1 My ponysona/OC: https://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/treble-r8882 Check out my Soundcloud too: https://soundcloud.com/colton-paul-crawford DeviantArt: http://scottish-bastard.deviantart.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponytable 2 September 14, 2016 Share September 14, 2016 I hope it is traditionally hand drawn, but it needs to be the same bright colors as the show. It can't be too different. I just pray to God it isn't CGI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FillyDilly9trillion 6 September 22, 2016 Share September 22, 2016 Imagine how amazing it would look if they used Tangled-style 3D animation. I would be interested in how they handle Celestia's hair. Let's hope they have good CGI animators IMO I think this style will be great for a cgi movie since the expression is one of the most important element for the mlp show ;3 Btw , if hasbro make it like the style of Bambi , it would also be ggggrreeeeatttttttt all those sfm's look like poo campared to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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