gaming Do you think Nintendo Switch will fail or not?

[Laurel 43]

Switching over from controllers gamecube to wii was a huge gamble and ended up being successful, because no consoles had this idea of it. But with Wiiu since most already had touch screen and iphones etc nobody was interested. Now considering the new gimmick from Switch is to have a tablet. It could end up as a failure. Although it looks greatly built, but i just feel people will buy it because Mario and Zelda. But then again they are also selling or planning on selling it on apps so i see a problem there.

 

I don't mean to bash nintendo or anything but i think they just need to go back to making consoles for TVs and create games for it and let the game speak for itself

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJnQWYli0xo

 

 

I am betting that maybe PS4 is a safe bet in 2017 if it gets more games. Crash Bandicoot 1,2 and 3 remake is planning to be released on PS4, same with Yooka Yaylee.

Although PS4 and Xbox One technically dont have games worth of interest yet, i have a feeling 2017 may turn that around if they get more new developers because its not a bad system in my view in terms of Ps4 and the controller itself.

Edited December 29, 2016 by Laurel

[Zachary 5,521]

I don't think it would fail, Even thought It might fail, I'll still get it no matter what.

[Unikitty 1,212]

Switch has plenty of potential to succeed. They're targeting a better audience, they've got better hardware, and they have much more third party support. They're also doing much better on the level of marketing. 

 

The WiiU was a great console. It felt and looked nice, and it had great games. But it fell because of issues such as poor launch support, long wait times for new games, and a terribly little amount of marketing.

These, coupled with the console's own limited hardware(it worked amazingly enough, as Smash Bros and Wind Waker HD are stunning) scaring away all third-party support, ended up bringing the console to its knees. It didn't have the developer support, nor the consumer attention, to succeed. 

 

If the Switch is to be a good console, it needs to fox these issues. Thankfully, it seems to be doing just that. Their 'gimmick' is something that is useful and interesting, but not necessary or hindering to the standard style of gaming. They have made sure to target a good set of demographics, looking to appeal to many rather than one in particular. Their marketing is starting off strong and should sky-rocket come January. And finally, they have a HUGE amount of third-party support. Developers from all over the globe are putting their chips in. Particularly important ones such as Bethesda and Ubisoft. This shows promise as many big companies are often quite fussy about their platforms. So if market-leading developers and publishers are playing, then there must be some promise. 

 

All-in-all, it shows a lot of promise. Only question now is if they can keep the ball rolling. Personally though, I'm already set to preorder. 

[Untitled Goose Q 5,137]

Well, if we look at previous Nintendo home consoles, we see something they have in common: A gimmick. The Switch does not lack that. We also see said previous consoles have little to no third party support, thus reducing the amount of available games, which has tended to be the reason they don't do as well as the PlayStation or Xbox competitors. The Switch, on the other hand, is going to have third party support- how much, we don't yet know for sure, but it looks to be significant.

 

I don't think there is any reason to believe the Switch will fail. It might, of course, but I'd say that's unlikely. You'll see the hardcore Nintendo fans buying it because it's Nintendo, whilst other gamers will be more inclined to buy it die to the potentially very useful gimmick (which helped the Wii, but not so much the WiiU) combined with the greater variety of games.

 

It'll have a hard job surpassing PS4 or Xbox1, but it'll most likely get close.

[Laurel 43]

If my guess is correct and if they market this thing right it will sell much less than for example touch phones or touch pads does. So it will sell ok or maybe good.

 

But whether its gonna be good or not is a different story, although they have done a better job at marketing the Switch now than WiiU.

 

WiiU had lots of 3rd party developers, atleast more than Wii which ended up not developing stuff on it. The question is why should they do the same for something that would attract people with phones who plays on apps?

Edited December 29, 2016 by Laurel

[Techno Universal 2,575]

Well originally Nintendo thought that the gameboy switch would fail in the market in 2001 when it was due to be released because of the way people were thinking of 2 into 1 products at the time. The news of then got released onto the internet 3 years later by an Nintendo employee. Then people surprisingly started commenting that the gameboy switch would of been extremely popular if they decided to put it into production. So that's probably why they decided to relaunch the project recently as the Nintendo switch more than a decade later after the original project was leaked on the internet. Knowing Nintendo the new console will definitely be their best selling product so far as the project would of been canceled before it was even announced to the public.

[Laurel 43]

So i can preorder a Nintendo Switch from a website. The prize is 6000 NOK which is about 620 US Dollars, although someplaces says 4990 NOK. When PS3 came here it costed about 6000NOK aswell, which is not 599 US Dollars but almost.

This brings back memories from PS3 for some reason.

 

What will the prize for Nintendo Switch be in USA or other places?

Edited December 29, 2016 by Laurel

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,682]

I definitely am not confident in it. Nintendo is being so secretive about it that it is not instilling any confidence in me. Plus, I feel that the focus of the system is all out of whack. It is a home console, but I have my Xbox One for that and it is a portable system, but I have my 3DS for that. On top of all of that, the system doesn't have the power of its competition. Sure, the power that it does have will be impressive for a handheld, but for a home console? Not at all. The Switch also will be quite limited in multi-media functions and it probably won't support most external devices, like external hard drives for memory.

 

All of that adds onto the fact that the Wii was garbage and the Wii U was a failure. Nintendo doesn't give me much confidence in their products these days. I cannot give them any free passes.

[trademark2 485]

The switch is going to be the MOST popular system. I saw a trailer for it and I am really excited. It combines the best features of a handheld and console. You can just be playing on the TV at home, and just pick it up off the stand and not even have to miss a beat. I don't understand why you're not confident in it. It looks so well done on the trailers, which admittedly are supposed to look good but still...

 

As for power, this is classic Nintendo philosophy. They have always gone for gameplay over graphics. Some of the best games Nintendo has released, such as Ocarina of time, were nowhere near the graphical power of playstation games at the time, but are still amazing classics. Nintendo games usually go for cute graphical styles, and that works just fine.

 

Nintendo also has a huge record of success with handhelds. Sony tried to come in to the handheld market and failed miserably, and now Nintendo is the only one with a good handheld (although now they are getting restrictive by trying to stamp out modding). My prediction is everybody will have a switch. It's going to be the most successful next gen console by far.

Edited December 29, 2016 by trademark2

[SaburoDaimando 1,196]

Truth be told, I want this to succeed just so Sony and Microsoft can follow suit and finally ditch big, bulky, hardware for more Tablet-based systems that can ALSO be projected onto a TV Screen.

 

Why?  I like the idea of gaming on the go.  Where you're games are not bounded by a big box that has to be plugged into a TV or a Monitor all the time.

 

Hell, with Microsoft implementing x86 Emulation into future ARM-based Windows 10 builds, it may not be long before we can play Doom 2016 on a Tablet.

[Megas 27,742]

There's some decent hype following the Switch reveal, so there's a chance for success. That video had better advertising than the Wii U in its entirety. And the 3rd party support actually looks promising, simply for the fact that this is gonna be the first Nintendo platform with Bethesda behind it. Whether or not they can live up to that hype remains to be said

[Aurora Wolf 2,354]

Honestly, I think its just the haters who look too hard for reasons to believe the switch will fail.

[Celtore 2,770]

I'm being carefully positive about the switch, there are a lot of things that could go wrong. The worst thing I think Nintendo could do is not commit 100% with the switch as their new platform. It must succeed both the 3DS and Wii U lines and not become an awkward product in the middle between "powerful console" and "portable console." I don't think the market will be accepting of a jack of all trades console if Nintendo maintains its portable and home console product lines; the hardcore audience will go to the classic console and the casual audience will stick with the DS line. This thing can't just be just another product line if Nintendo wants it to succeed and be embraced by gamers and developers.

 

Beyond that, there's also the question of power, battery life, third party developer support, starting game lineup, price, etc. But I believe these questions will be answered relatively soon. Hopefully, I mean the thing releases in a few months. Again, I really hope it succeeds, I've been a Nintendo guy since I was a kid and I'm probably going to buy it regardless.

Edited January 2, 2017 by Celtore

[Concerned Bystander 2,903]

I'm being carefully positive about the switch, there are a lot of things that could go wrong. The worst thing I think Nintendo could do is not commit 100% with the switch as their new platform. It must succeed both the 3DS and Wii U lines and not become an awkward product in the middle between "powerful console" and "portable console." I don't think the market will be accepting of a jack of all trades console if Nintendo maintains its portable and home console product lines; the hardcore audience will go to the classic console and the casual audience will stick with the DS line. This thing can't just be just another product line if Nintendo wants it to succeed and be embraced by gamers and developers.

 

I'm fairly sure the WiiU will be completely superseded by the Switch, although there will no doubt be an overlap before all support for the WiiU is withdrawn, just like Microsoft and Sony do with their consoles, let the new one bed in before cutting the old one adrift.

 

But abandoning the 3DS would be suicide.  The Gameboy (and its descendants) has been Nintendo's rock for many years, it's the one product that has outlasted all of the competition and has a proven pedigree of success.  If nothing else, it fits in your pocket and you can take it anywhere, the same can't be said for the Switch.  And with the new 3DS only (comparatively) recently launched and selling well, it would be a titanic blunder for them to do away with it in favour of a new system with no such track record.

Edited January 2, 2017 by Concerned Bystander

[Celtore 2,770]

I'm fairly sure the WiiU will be completely superseded by the Switch, although there will no doubt be an overlap before all support for the WiiU is withdrawn, just like Microsoft and Sony do with their consoles, let the new one bed in before cutting the old one adrift.

 

But abandoning the 3DS would be suicide.  The Gameboy (and its descendants) has been Nintendo's rock for many years, it's the one product that has outlasted all of the competition and has a proven pedigree of success.  If nothing else, it fits in your pocket and you can take it anywhere, the same can't be said for the Switch.  And with the new 3DS only (comparatively) recently launched and selling well, it would be a titanic blunder for them to do away with it in favour of a new system with no such track record.

 

I understand the fear of abandoning the handheld, but the handheld is unfortunately a dead end. With the emergence of smartphone technology, there's no need for a new handheld. The 3DS was a bit ahead of the competition at the time, Android was only on honeycomb and icecream sandwich, but times have changed and mobile devices keep getting more capable by the year. Why would a casual gamer buy the next portable generation? Especially if it's released with a very weak starting lineup like the 3DS was? The predictable answer is "better games", but nothing is stopping developers from publishing to these platforms too; heck, the next professor layton game is being pushed to the 3DS and android/ios.

 

Maybe I'm gazing a little too far in the future, but I see very little potential for growth in the handheld market and much more potential trying to unify their audience now that they finally have a feasible chance to do so. The 3DS has been selling a little bit worse than the previous DS and I can't see why releasing a new handheld would change that (especially now with mobile slowly becoming a genuine threat.) Perhaps their next handheld could be a "switch mini" to replace the DS at the price of forced portable mode and a smaller screen. They wouldn't fragment their market and it would offer the size option for the gamers who want something more portable.

Edited January 3, 2017 by Celtore

[trademark2 485]

I think theres always a market for a handheld, but the switch fills the niche. The problem with smartphones is that there are no buttons to press, and even if you buy a bluetooth controller, it doesn't feel as good and the apps aren't made for controllers

[Concerned Bystander 2,903]

Maybe I'm gazing a little too far in the future, but I see very little potential for growth in the handheld market and much more potential trying to unify their audience now that they finally have a feasible chance to do so. The 3DS has been selling a little bit worse than the previous DS and I can't see why releasing a new handheld would change that (especially now with mobile slowly becoming a genuine threat.)

 

I'm not sure what the situation in the US is like, but just try getting a 3DS in the UK at the moment.  Everywhere was absolutely wiped out over the run-up to Christmas, even places like Amazon, Argos and Game don't have them, apart from a few of their third-party marketplace sellers who are gouging the prices like crazy, because there is lots of demand, but currently very little supply.

 

The Android/IOS market may be growing, but for the most part, mobile phone games are still mobile phone games, ie. they suck (not all of course, but most).  Don't underestimate the draw of a well supported, dedicated gaming machine that is small enough to carry around anywhere and has a library of games that are far better than the vast majority of the mobile market.  I'm sure there will come a time when the Gameboy will be retired, but there is still plenty of mileage left in it yet.

 

The Switch isn't even out yet, and even once it has been released it will have its work cut for it to prove itself as a worthy successor to the longest running portable gaming platform that there is.  I'm sure Nintendo's ultimate plan will be to consolidate, but they will need to time it very carefully, and hanging all their hopes on the Switch could (at this point) be a mistake that might end them as a third player (or even a significant presence) in the gaming industry.

Edited January 3, 2017 by Concerned Bystander

[Ganondorf8 11,336]

It's hard to say whether Nintendo's new console will be successful or not. The Switch is unfortunately following the Wii U--I don't need to explain what went wrong with it since others have already done so--so right away it does need to set itself apart from its predecessor by offering its own take on a console. Nintendo also need to market it correctly and provide a good enough reason as to why gamers should be interested in wanting to take a chance with it. From what I've seen, there is potential to be found, and Nintendo have been taking steps to ensure the Switch has graphical power, third party support, and all those other bells and whistles one wants in a console.

 

However, they need to market this correctly, have all of the features available almost immediately upon launch, and have a near perfect line-up. Anything less than that would be deemed unacceptable. I know that sounds harsh but considering the Wii U's shortcomings, Nintendo can't afford to make another mistake.

[Steve Piranha 29,429]

With Nintendo's track record on home consoles lately, I'm more inclined for it to fail

[silvadel 1,393]

Nintendo products never fail because unlike other companies that make game systems, Nintendo never sells consoles at a loss.

[Megas 27,742]

Nintendo products never fail because unlike other companies that make game systems, Nintendo never sells consoles at a loss.

uhhh...3DS(After Price cut) and Wii U were the first actually Nintendo platforms I remember to be sold at a loss

 

Of course the Wii U flopped, but the 3DS definitely made up its money

[silvadel 1,393]

uhhh...3DS(After Price cut) and Wii U were the first actually Nintendo platforms I remember to be sold at a loss

 

Of course the Wii U flopped, but the 3DS definitely made up its money

 

Heh -- after all that sanity they recently blew it eh...  I went on the web to verify what you said and found this...

 

The NX will not be sold at a loss upon its March 2017 launch, ..

 

So it appears they have realized their mistake.

[Jonny Music 3,426]

I'll say this here and now, I can only see the Switch become very successful because of this risky move Nintendo is making, and I LOVE IT!

In case any of you missed it. I recently made a blog concerning my experience with previewing the Switch in Toronto not too long ago here:

https://mlpforums.com/blog/2315/entry-21822-i-was-at-the-toronto-nintendo-switch-preview-tour-d/

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

As I said in the other thread:

 

"I can already tell it will at least do better than the Wii U. The reveal trailer has more views than the Wii U sales lol.

 

It succeeding would depend on the marketing and the games. The marketing is really good right now and I think it's really smart that Switch is getting a Super Bowl commercial. What made the Wii U marketing bad was a combination of no effort getting it aware for a general audience, and alienating this general audience with very pandering trailers. For the games, if they can get more 3rd party games as popular as Skyrim on the Switch while having the edge of being able to play this version of the 3rd party games on the go, then I say it can sell well."

[cmarston1 5,959]

As of right now, I can't say for certain if it will fail or succeed yet.

However it looks like it will at least do better than the Wii U did.

I am thinking of getting the Switch eventually.