Are Bronies the problem?

[Smitty91 57]

Out of curiosity, could someone point me to an example of this (the show being tossed in people's faces)? Because I've never seen it. Unless people consider things like remixes and ponifying things "in your face." But then again, they could just ignore it.

 

That was how one person on YouTube put it in a video. By using ponies as your avatar or discussing on forums, among other things,the user said that it was "shoving the show in our faces." 

[~Master~ Button Mash 2,307]

That was how one person on YouTube put it in a video. By using ponies as your avatar or discussing on forums, among other things,the user said that it was "shoving the show in our faces."

That makes no sense. Avatars are supposed to be personal. If you have a pony as your avatar, it's a form of self expression. That's what the whole point of an avatar is. Sounds like that person was just being bitchy.

 

And if you insist on discussing ponies on a non-pony forum, make a thread for if and keep it there. I've seen that on a lot of forums, and it seems to go over pretty well.

Edited April 6, 2013 by AtomicBassCannon

[deadprofile 1,122]

yeah, but for some reason it's the rule 34ers and the in-your-face toleraters that form the public image of bronies.

 

maybe it's just a matter of time, trekkies used to be seen as total weirdos too. Now you're weird if you don't know anything about Star Trek.

Anything sexually explicit is the most often looked at 'thing' that most fandoms have to deal with in the 21st century.  Sexually explicit images about a show about technicolor equines made for little girls is seen as pedophilia, bestiality and who knows what else.   Because of the uniqueness of the fandom and what we are fans FOR, it just gives another reason to negatively criticize the fandom.  Can you think of any other little kids show specific to little girls that has a massive cult following...how about any tv show that is geared towards early elementary school aged kids (kids under 8 years old).  Could say pokemon, but that was for preteens, and a lot of other 90's shows, but most were for the 10-12 age group and were for boys.  My Little Pony fandom is wholly unique in this regard, in the American world at least (can't attest for our European brethren because I don't live there).

 

btw, trekkies are weird because of Klingons and Patrick Stewart...and Lenoard Nimoy especially...

[Phaeston-e12 173]

Is there any reason to give serious consideration to any of those arguments? It is a classic ad hominem/hasty generalization statement with little difference to statements people like to give when they try to justify their racial, gender, sex, nationality prejudices. It is an underhanded argument to justify their dislike for the series/fandom and there is little reason to give any serious consideration to such because they are simply unworthy.

 

I will end my thoughts on the matter with this question for you all: as long as you are conscious and has an ability to see, the only things you can see is what you can see and what's in front of you. It's impossible to see what other are seeing nor what they think. The life we live is a first person's point of view in its purest form. This is your world as much as mine and the other's.

 

So how far will you let others' "stare" dictate who you are?

[ColtofPersonality 855]

In every group you're gonna have radical fans.  Anime/Furs/Adventure Time  their everywhere..heck i'm sure even competitive knitting has it aswell.  There's nothing wrong with being creative and having fun.  But I can draw a line somewhere where it gets to be far gone. Now let's say you were to take permanant ink marker and draw on your body then claim it to be 'Your Cutiemark'  or if you were to start randomly making dresses for people 'Because it's what my cutiemark is telling me.'  or you go out to a farm and start kicking trees because 'It's Apple Bucking Season' or believing you can break the 4th wall...well it goes without saying you'll need help.

Edited April 7, 2013 by ~ChaoticDerpy~

[Malao 27]

In my completely ignorant and stupid opinion, those kinds of bronies aren't bronies. They call themselves bronies, but if they project negativity, they don't uphold the values that we have given ourselves. Being a brony is about more than the show (although that's a big part) it's about upholding to the values said show represents. To some extent, it's also about gender roles for some people. That's fine with me.

 

The big thing is the people who take this too far. This is something i'd like to lay down, and have been meaning to for a while.

1. We aren't a revolution. So you like a show for six year old girls openly, don't be an arse about it
2. We aren't a cult. Being obsessive about it makes you seem like a weirdo. Not every possible reference is actually a reference.
3. We aren't some kind of underground society. We're just a group of people with similar interests, which just so happen to involve a show for six year-olds of the opposite sex.
4. We don't need to express our love for the show absolutely everywhere. Doing that is obnoxious, and is part of the reason we've been antagonized so much. Express your love for MLP here and places like here, not on something completely fucking irrelevant. Now, i'm not including profile pictures. Those are fine with me.
5. I guess the main point that i'm trying to make is The fact that we express our interests so openly makes people dislike us because it's pretty obnoxious. I like the show, that's fine. I know some of you might not agree with the above, but Bronies in general are a really controversial idea. Spamming the fact that you like a kid's show makes you seem weird, not cool.

Well, apparently MLP makes my Ranty side go on the fritz. I'm ususally not this serious about anything whatsoever. Whatever, I guess it's just the mojo. BY NO MEANS DOES THE ABOVE MEAN I DON'T LIKE THE BRONY COMMUNITY. I AM STILL AN ACTIVE MEMBER AND LOVE YOU GUYS TO PEICES. There. Rant over. On your way.

 

EDIT: I just remembered a good analogy for any fandom in the public opinion. "A fart is louder than a chorus of angels." It means that no matter how many "Angels" are in a group, if someone's being really fucking obnoxious, people are only going to pay attention to them.

 

Sorry for the cursing, but it's kind of necessary to get my point across.

Edited April 7, 2013 by Malao

[King 5,625]

To put it simply: Those reviewers are a bunch of idiots...

 

You don't HAVE TO listen to the music remix's

You don't HAVE TO look at the Art

And you certainly don't HAVE TO read any Fanfics...

 

The type of Bronies who are active in the community are some of the nicest Bronies in the Fandom...

Sure we get hate, but thats because we are noticeable...

 

If people took the time to actually befriend an "active" Brony they may actually see things through a better perspective.

 

But trust me, it's not the Active Bronies like us who are the problem...

You Dont HAVE TO talk to us,listen to our music,read our fanfics or look at our art...if anyone is to blame for that..it's the person who is reading/looking/listening...

[Anadu Kune 668]

I was reading the reviews for this show at tv.com and quite a few of the negative reviews said that they liked the show, but the brony community turned them away from the fandom. One review even said that the brony community will "infuriate you to no end." The review goes on to explain his reasons behind how the brony community has completely ruined this show. Granted, at the beginning he says that bronies who simply watch the show and enjoy it are fine, but the ones who write disturbing fanfiction, draw disturbing art, and fill the Internet with memes and remixes of the songs and sometimes ruining great moments from the show are the worst. I'm just wondering if these kinds of bronies are the ones that everyone seems to hate, even the fans of the show. I'm sure that when people talk about hating bronies, they mean these types of people. So I'm just wondering if these types of people are the ones who keep people from giving the show a chance and even causing some people to leave the fandom. This isn't an attack on any of you, mind you. I'm just trying to figure out why a lot of people hate bronies and whether or not the aforementioned types of bronies may the source of it. 

Yes there is a very loud distasteful vocal minority to be had in the Brony fandom, but that applies to all fandoms every one of them. To be honest those people you describe sound just as bad if not worse. They admit to liking a show yet give it a negative review because of it's fanbase? What kind of reasoning is that? How do the quality of the show and its fanbase relate other than if somethings good people will watch it. It seems to be very intellectually dishonest to write a review of a show that is negative then instead talk about its fanbase. In essence broadcasting that the show is of poor quality when in reality you haven't really talked about it. Did they give The Avengers 1 star because there are overly obsessed fans who want nothing short of total accuracy from the comic? Are the types of Bronies mentioned a problem? Perhaps, but those writing those reviews if they could be called that are far worse in my opinion.

[Crispy 5,563]

Yes.  The answer you are looking for is yes.

 

You can't exclude people from calling themselves bronies just because they do stupid shit.  They are just as much a part of this as anyone else.  It's not a private club of beautiful character.  All fandoms have this problem, yes, but we tend to have a lot more of it.

 

All you can really do is make sure you aren't one of those people doing dumb things and call out those who do.  That's how you try to weed it out.

[Hawk Moth 390]

I'm going to be completely honest.

I agree with what they're saying.

To an extent, of course. I was personally pushed away from the fandom due to the massive amounts of rude people who joined over the Summer of last year. Bronies aren't what they used to be. I enjoyed when "Love and Tolerance" wasn't seen as something dumb, but when it was a general rule.

 

But now, it's just something yelled to try to prove it's your right to yell at someone.

 

So no, it's general bronies. Not just "cloppers", or crap like that. Every fandom has that weird stuff that goes on. Bronies are just more popular right now. Furries get the same crap.

What is special about last Summer in terms of the fandom? Do you see those people as Johnny-come-latelies? Or that the only true bronies were those who watched seasons one and two while they were airing?

[SkyGust 72]

I don't think they are the problem. If someone turns away without giving the show a chance because of a few people doing something they don't like, it is on them, not someone else.

[Nah 3,182]

To wrap it up, some are the problem. Some treat it like it's the greatest thing on earth. Others want to force down people's throats. Some are little 10-12 years that haven't matured much yet. 

 

Every fandom is like that. Not just Bronies.

[Shanks 10,816]

All you can really do is make sure you aren't one of those people doing dumb things and call out those who do.  That's how you try to weed it out.

But responding to them would require actually giving them attention which is exactly what they want in the first place and just creates unnecessary drama by just giving undue attention to the negative when there is far more positivity than negativity in this fandom. It seems in many of the responses I have read here that far too many of you care what people think when I have learned a long time ago that life is far too short to be worrying about that.

 

I realize that though I didn't intend to insult anyone here directly that some of my responses were a bit heated and a bit too easily misinterpreted, simply put I made a much bigger deal out of this than I should have in part because I have little patience for people who judge what they don't understand and because I have been in a very bad mood because I was looking forward to things slowing down for a bit at work as they always do after a holiday but that slowdown still hasn't come yet. I guess the attitude I think we should take on this can best be summed up in one of my favorite songs from my childhood.

 

[RollingPony 100]

I think that the minority of the people who hate Bronies hate them because some of them are stupid or do things they don't like,

most of the people disliking the show dislike it because it's My Little Pony!

 

I don't really get why people are annoyed so much from Pony-profile-pics or pony-captions I never saw anything of the spamming you are talking about, infact no one of my friends knew what bronies are until I told them and I wouldn't even recognized them if I wouldn't have researched further!

[Malao 27]

I I never saw anything of the spamming you are talking about

There used to be a huge amount of MLP comments on "You're Gonna Go Far, Kid", an awesome song by The Offspring, because Forest Rain released "Join The Herd", a song to the tune of "You're Gonna Go Far, Kid". It's died down since then, but the point stood.

[Videogameget 5]

Stop this thread. 
 

Seriously, the reason why everyone hates bronies, is because you guys get mad so quickly!

 

Learn from that. Please!

[Pacagawea 6]

This seems to be in order . http://tygerbug.deviantart.com/art/The-Muffin-Queen-289863875 Nothing but the truth. On youtube I do admit most bronies in the comment section act... obnoxious but I don't mind it much as i barely browse comments. Still, that picture tells the truth.

[Pripyat Pony 2,608]

HA. A lot of the MLP bad stuff is tame compared to stuff I've seen on the Sonic, Naruto and Harry Potter fandoms. Not to mention the ocean of badfic spawned by the Hobbit movie. What I prefer to do is poke fun at ignore the bad stuff of the fandom and concentrate on the good. Believe me, there is no fandom that doesn't have morons in it. If you're looking for one, you're gonna be looking a long, long time.

[Dashiiizzz 24]

I can definitely see how people can be turned away from some of the disturbing art and fanfics (because some of them are just...way too disturbing...) but the remixes that people create and the original songs they create inspired by the show or a song in the show make the whole series and fandom 100 times better! Even some of the better art and fanfics make this fandom the best one out there. However, we do have those people that create some of the more..."messed up" type of art and stuff that make people not want to be a part of the fandom. But that doesn't mean you have to hate every brony because you saw some disturbing art or read a nasty fanfic, because not all of us are like that. A lot of people are ignorant though and judge us ALL based on 1 single thing. If only they could see the more beautiful side of our fandom...

[Pripyat Pony 2,608]

Exactly that. For example, I don't hate LOTR cuz I read Celebrian, or hate Harry Potter cuz I read Subjugation. I don't refuse to be a Kiss fan just cuz there are some crazed sheep out there who follow the band blindly and hate on those who don't like every single song that the band put out. Seriously? I've got better things to do with my time. Just ignore the idiots; don't respond to them or you're just giving them the attention that they desperately crave.

[Dark Qiviut 22,491]

If there's one huge peeve of mine in any fandom that really grinds my gears, it's this one.

 

Anyone who quits being a fan of something because of the fans' transgressions was NEVER a fan of the product to begin with!

 

This same thing applies to the "brony" who wrote that idiotic review and overall opinion of MLP:FIM on TV.com. Fans don't determine the quality of the overall product. The professionals affect the quality of the overall product. The quality of the product results in the passionate fanbase, and the product NEEDS this passion to help push it forward. MLP:FIM is a quality product, and people in general spot quality the minute they see it. That's why there's so much passion here: The quality's high, and the bronies respond to it. And this passion is needed, NOT shunned.

 

If you let the fanbase ruin your enjoyment of the show or fandom in general, then you won't enjoy anything in your life, period. It's a completely misguided mindset with NO good reasons whatsoever. In short, the bronies aren't the the reviewer's problem. The reviewer himself (and anyone who follows this same double standard regardless of fandom) is his real problem.

Edited April 8, 2013 by Dark Qiviut

[King 5,625]

Stop this thread. 

 

Seriously, the reason why everyone hates bronies, is because you guys get mad so quickly!

 

Learn from that. Please!

"you guys" ?

You realise your a Brony too right?

 

Plus I dont see anyone angry here, just a bunch of people trying to figure out why some people dislike us.

Plus not "everyone" hates Bronies, not even close. The majority of the people who dislike us are usually trolls and a few poor souls who didn't have the luxury of an open mind.

 

Sure, there are some idiots in our community, but that goes with life in general, there are idiots everywhere, not just in certain communities. The only reason we get picked up on it is due to our fan base being quite peculiar in it;s own little way.

 

We just need to make sure that we ignore those trolls, and do our best not to overreact to haters...just stick with the motto of Love and Tolerance...

[Skeletor Brony 703]

Maybe we should bring hand mirrors and mics around with us everywhere, so we make trolls and haters look at and listen to themselves.

[SparkBrony 379]

On the contrary, the brony community is actually what drew me in to My Little Pony. Having so many people hanging out, talking about the same thing you like is a lot of fun! Having people who make art, music and stories just for the show is fun! True, some bronies go over the line, but I've never met a Brony I didn't like.