Do you consider bronies to be furries?

[ScarfaceOne 264]

If you mean yiffing the way I think you do, that statistic is a bit high. Not sure where you even got that number from.

 

 

Objection!!!

 

 

According to Wikipedia.

 

According to four different surveys, 14–25% of the fandom members report homosexuality, 37–52% bisexuality, 28–51% heterosexuality, and 3–8% other forms of alternative sexual relationships.[10][12][32] Of the furry fans that reported being in a relationship (approximately half of the surveyed population), 76% were in a relationship with another member of furry fandom.[10] Examples of sexual aspects within furry fandom include erotic art and furry-themed cybersex.[33][34] The term "yiff" is most commonly used to indicate sexual activity or sexual material within the fandom—this applies to sexual activity and interaction within the subculture whether in the form of cybersex or offline.[35][36]

Sexual attraction to furry characters is a polarized issue within the fandom; in one survey with 4300 furry respondents, 37% answered that sexual attraction is important in their furry activities, 38% were ambivalent, and 24% answered that it has little or nothing to do with their furry activities.[32] In a different online survey, 33% of furry respondents answered that they have a "significant sexual interest in furry", another 46% stated they have a "minor sexual interest in furry", and the remaining 21% stated they have a "non-sexual interest in furry". The survey specifically avoided adult-oriented websites to prevent bias.[12]

A portion of the fandom is sexually interested in zoophilia, or in fursuiting, although a majority take a negative stance towards the former.[37][unreliable source?] In a survey conducted by David J. Rust in 1997-1998, about 2% of furry respondents stated an interest in zoophilia, and less than 1% an interest in plushophilia, though the survey's accompanying study doesn't comment on these results,[38] and in another survey in 2008 attempting to replicate the results, 17% of respondents reported zoophilia. The survey's accompanying study suggested that the older, lower results were due to respondents being susceptible to social desirability bias. Therefore not a lot of people Yiff. That was only 4300 out of Millions of furries. So there. And it was long established before Bronies. I need to tell my mum more about R34.

Edited June 7, 2014 by TheGeneralApplejack

[CT-1138 3,184]

Do the two fandoms crossover? Yes. But all fandoms cross with each other in one way or another. I don't consider Bronies Furries because the ponies still look more pony than human rather than the other way around.

[Banul 3,831]

I'd consider myself a furry, though I've never been active within that fandom. I don't think being a brony automatically makes you a furry. I'd bet there is a good amount of crossover, though. 

[Windseeker 546]

I really don't care if you like the "bad stuff" or not. Do what you want. I refuse to judge people based on what they like (Something quite a few people in this thread should do before their minds narrow to the point where they physically cannot muster up a thought or else their brains would literally explode into a pink, porridge-like mass.) I just get irritated when Bronies criticise the furry fandom and they almost always bring up "the bad side".

Furries are notorious for criticizing the brony community, I know there are some members of the herd who trolls furs but none of my friends even heard of furries. I migrated over the brony side of things because there was more fanon media and people in it, god I hated being the only fur in school, I was teased and called a 'animal-fucker' as a result... ones I met online were jerks who think they are the furry fandom. -.-

 

 

Both fandoms are as guilty as the other one for creating some truly horrendous stuff and for creating yiff/clop stuff. Let's not pretend furries are moral degenerates or whatever because of it. There are distinct differences between the fandoms but the creation of "the bad stuff" (You've got me saying it now) is one thing that both fandoms have in common.

The porn didn't drive me away, (ignoring the fact every fandom has porn) it was the drama. The sub-groups within the community were created with the sole purpose to troll and flamebait. Furry groups made to combat zoophilia, fursuiting, yiffies, etc.

 

It was just a melting pot of hypocrisy and drama.

 

I honestly didn't realize Furries got that much crap from Bronies (fairly new to the fandom, myself).  But that does strike me as hypocritical if they cite things like that.  Stuff like that exists in many, many fandoms.  I, for one, would never criticize you or look down on you simply for drawing / enjoying Furry art or what have you.  I don't even really understand the prejudice.

They really don't, furs are usually the ones who provoke the bronies, I remember one stating he was a proud member of a anti-brony fur group on Steam before. And no, he wasn't the only one I met.

 

It's sad and nonsensical...

I was talking to a friend of mine who is a furry and he considers us Bronies to be furries, but personally I dislike the fandom because of all the ahem, shenanigans that go on. What do you think?

Bronies aren't furries, I really don't understand how one would think such. :/

 

If one is referring to our anthro culture, that actually originates from furries.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

I would and often have considered myself a furry... yet the tiring arguments I've had with others in that a furry is or is not have left me cautious in the use of the word.

 

For me being a furry/anthro fan is liking a particular character style or type. Like having elf or vampire chatacters or that of Disney' Robinhood and Kung Fu Panda, or the Redwall book series. Having characters related to animals, furred races, and having them interact with each other.

 

Being furry isn't about sex, it isn't some damned fetish. At least not for all or even most fans, and really must people believe the stereotypes?

 

I would like to call myself furry, but not if people get the wrong ideas.

Edited June 5, 2014 by EquestrianScholar

[Flutter's lover <3 8,210]

I consider myself a furry and a brony. Though I'm a brony first. They're two entirely different fandoms, but at the same time they're the same. But really, Furry is more of a subculture, it's not really a fandom.
 
   A fandom implies it's based off a certain TV show series/movie/ or video game. In general "Furry"  isn't directly associated with one specific TV Show/movie/video game, they're associated with SEVERAL things with anthropomorphic animals in it, furries also thrive off of original art work,where as bronies thrive off of fan art of their fave ponies.. But they do include people from a bunch of fandoms ranging from MLP, Sonic, to Star Fox, to trekkies and whovians, to whatever else there's a fandom out there of. and they also "furrify" everything possible, just like how bronies "ponify" everything possible (R85 of the internet, if it's out there there's a MLP version of it,or if there isn't, there will be).
 
Both fandoms are guilty of having a "darkside" to the fandom...which sadly is what the media would rather focus on.But it IS a part of the two fandoms. I jsut wish the media would concentrate more on the good things, like the charity work both fandoms do, and the conventions they hold.
 
  As for the actual rivalry, I don't get it...I know a LOT of furries that absolutely despise MLP and the fans. Though I know bronies that despise furries. I don't see why honestly, it's rather childish. I see it on Facebook all the time, though it's mostly the furries that do it. I see anti-brony stuff they post, I attempt to say there's not much difference between furries and bronies, they get angry and they don't have a valid argument/debate response, they just keep saying "fuck off pony fag" and highly original stuff like that. so they unfriend and block me for proving them wrong, that there's no reason to hate bronies....

Edited June 5, 2014 by :Flutterdash:

[Noire Panzer 3,526]

I think we are a sub-division of the furry fandom. They seem pretty similar believe it or not. I least I would like to think we are a sub-division of them if not on par terms with similar likings but the question is Do you consider yourself a furry. In a sense I guess because I think we are a sub-division of their fandom if not a stand alone with similar interests. Other than that reason I don't see myself being a furry.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Media and Entertainment I consider 'furry':

 

Disney's Robinhood (movie), Kung Fu Panda (movie), Cats Don't Dance (movie) Redwall book series, Mouse Guard comic series, Dreamkeepers comic series, Sabrina Online web comic, Ironclaw and Jadeclaw roleplaying games... and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

Edited June 5, 2014 by EquestrianScholar

[ScarfaceOne 264]

And then there is fandom Rivalry. Bronies are Mclaren. Furries are Ferrari. We are not going to war though. We should just make peace. I have read Creepypastas and they are probably as disturbing as yiff gets.

[Rarity Paige Belle 1,855]

Media and Entertainment I consider 'furry':

Disney's Robinhood (movie), Kung Fu Panda (movie), Cats Don't Dance (movie) Redwall book series, Mouse Guard comic series, Dreamkeepers comic series, Sabrina Online web comic, Ironclaw and Jadeclaw roleplaying games... and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

My favourite toon is Arthur. Could that be considered furry?

[GreyScholar 1,584]

My favourite toon is Arthur. Could that be considered furry?

I would say so, as Arthur has anthromorphic characters that have clear animal physical traits.

 

Oh also most Looney Tones characters and Sonic series characters could also be considered furry.

Edited June 5, 2014 by EquestrianScholar

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,828]

Totally. I'm trying hard to get into suiting though. 

[Nulln 755]

I'm a furry.  I don't fursuit, i don't look at 'yiff', i don't fantasize about animals.

I don't know where all this furry hate is coming from, especially from BRONIES.

But bronies are not furries, and furries are not bronies.

[SparklingSwirls 21,609]

Nope, I don't consider myself a Furry at all. I think furry animals like foxes are cute, yes, but I wouldn't get myself into the whole fandom about it. I don't mind people that are Furries, though.

Edited June 6, 2014 by SparklingSwirls

[Commander Tangent 861]

@,

 

I really have to agree with you there, especially as another furry. 

[Forlong 1,726]

My waifu is an alicorn...

 

...so...yeah, I think I am a furry.

[Duster Dawnhorse 249]

I am indeed a furry. My fursona's a white thylacine. I know, not a wolf or a fox, it's shocking.

 

If you call yourself a furry, you're a furry. If you don't, you're not a furry. It's really that simple.

[SeraphStar 398]

Well, a furry could be described as "someone who likes anthropomorphic animals (sans dressing up)", so they could make a stretch to say "Oh, you all like sentient ponies = furry". Everyone has their own opinions.

 

As to whether I am a furry, I've never dressed up or anything but I'd love to — looks fun (no shenanigans, of course); I'd love to go to ComiCon dressed up as... *thinks: "Pony?"* something.

Edited June 6, 2014 by SeraphStar

[Discordian 6,024]

I was a furry long before I was ever a brony. I don't really do much beyond appreciate the concept in art form and debate on the side of furries when it comes up. Fursuits and fursonas don't particularly interest me but I'm an avid comic reader and most of my favorite comics are coincidentally furry comics (though if the artist chose to do so it could have just as easily been humans or even gremlins)

 

One misconception about furries is that they are sexual in nature (which is where most of the hate comes from) when that's merely a byproduct of the anthropomorphic process. Whether it's a human-like personality or human-like body a furry character is one that is not strictly a realworld animal in cartoon form.

 

The thing to note is that yiff is not zoophilia in most cases. Yiff is merely a term given to furry porn. The people who take part in yiff are interested in the human aspects of furries from physical to mental. Any time you see a sexualized furry it's often given human body parts. A furry who takes part in yiff has no desire whatsoever to do anything to an actual animal of the same sort.

 

This is the same logic behind cloppers. They aren't interested in the animal aspects of the pony so much as the human personalities (and bodies in some cases) so people who accuse these people of zoophilia on any level are wrong on every level. The animal aspects create an exotic air but aren't the primary attraction.

 

So long story short: Furry characters and the people who like them are not sexual by nature. The sexual side is merely a quirk in what attracts these people and not some hidden desire to go out and screw their own dog.

 

Did you know that furries became popular thanks to them being prominent in sci-fi products? From books to comics they were initially created thanks to the genetic mutation of humans and/or animals or they were just plain aliens from another planet.

 

Someone feel free to correct the above statement as I don't know if it's 100% true or merely a part of the whole shindig.

---

 

Oh and there's another potential cause of the outbreak of the furry fandom: Schediophilia. The attraction, platonic or sexual, to animated characters. Once again, a quirk in one's ability to be attracted to something more than the desire to go screw a picture of a character.

Edited June 6, 2014 by Discordian

[ghostfacekiller39 23,882]

I don't consider myself a furry. Don't hold anything against furries, I just really think that we're our own separate entity and labeling us as a furry-based fandom when it's really just ponies for us, and not the broad range of anthro the furry fandom is obsessed with, is kind of pushing it - we're different from furries in terms of what we're fandomming over, and that's why I don't consider myself a furry.

 

Now, hating furries is just something that is unneeded - being anti-anything is really just unneeded. What's to gain from hatred other than negativity? If you were anti-Nazi or anti-Taliban, that'd be one thing, but hating another fandom because of their interests is really kind of silly, in my opinion. While I don't consider myself a furry, I don't hold anything against the fandom because there's really no point in it - especially since I've never looked into the fandom or anything like that.

[Discordian 6,024]

Now, hating furries is just something that is unneeded - being anti-anything is really just unneeded. What's to gain from hatred other than negativity? If you were anti-Nazi or anti-Taliban, that'd be one thing, but hating another fandom because of their interests is really kind of silly, in my opinion. While I don't consider myself a furry, I don't hold anything against the fandom because there's really no point in it - especially since I've never looked into the fandom or anything like that.

Hating anything that's not doing any harm whatsoever is the epitome of first world problems and the idiots who have them.

[Denim&Venöm 22,097]

I've been a furry in one way or another as far back as I can remember. I guess that's one of the factors that helped FiM gain my attention at first. I've always enjoyed anthro art, pony or otherwise. I'm pretty sure it started with watching the movie Homeward bound, Transformers: Beast Wars, Road Rovers, Looney Toons and looking at my parents Werewolf: The Apocalypse RPG books.

 

I don't have any fursuits yet nor do I have that many furry centric cons near me but I do enjoy it when people walk into other cons with their fur suits and I attempt to snag a picture when I can. Haven't done much in the community other than check out artwork on Deviant Art and an old site called TeamArtail.

 

As for my stance on whether or not bronies=furries, honestly it's less that one is part of the other, and more that Bronies and Furries are branches of the same broad interest, and that's being a fan of anthromorphic characters.

 

Here are a few vids from MLP annalist Dr. Wolf that compare the two fandoms rather well.

 

[Zenit 190]

No but i'd join a furry forum i'd like to talk to them

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,178]

I was a furry b4 mlp fim.... So yea

[Kings&Hooves14 617]

I'm attracted to cartoon ponies, mice, cats, dogs...yeah, I guess I qualify as a furry.